As a lower member of this team to bring this comment to the front, I want to thank you for taking the lead on this project. We all really appreciate your efforts

@@PaintsOnA4Up though I didn't make the cut for supervisor I was proud to vise the team

I'm proud to be on the team of consumers for this content.

Thanks Stevo really appreciated.

Truly capturing the most significant part of the hobby. Not painting, not playing, but talking about painting and playing

Mike Anderson does sculpts for Warlord too, a previous GW empire designer.

It's a great way to ensure the artists are never bigger than the company itself, much like the ufc does to fighters

@@YaBoiVD I've had some managers over the years that did everything possible to prevent staff credit/development etc so nobody would ever leave. They had the biggest turn over rate in the section because it was a bad environment so nobody stuck around, while the team that had the most staff development still has most of their people to this day because its a good team to work in.

@@milesmcinerney5594 I've had the same man, it's all about the company. Never about the people that built it

Totally agree. I do love seeing the people behind the magic mirror, and I understand that they aren't just paying the price of the plastic, but also the artists and all the other essential processes behind the scenes. Which is why I've never been keen on folks just coming in with "basically that", because in my mind those folks are trampling on the 90% of the work that generated those kits to begin with. Though, I feel the bigger issue is a societal one. We are encouraged from birth to grave to be liar's, by our peers, our politicians and by people who want wealth. I kind of feel that all bleeds down to make a society that by it's nature is fundamentally squeed and is looking for simple answers to complex problems. As such, I always have reason to question my first emotional response, and likewise more trenchancy would be awesome.

GW is managed by out of touch businessmen in their 60's. An old friend of mine used to be a store manager and he was telling me about some of the newer hires in nearby stores being alien to the ideas of things like game days - because they're not invested in the hobby or hobbyists whatsoever. Strikes a cord with how GW is managed at a higher level.

@@Sovietskikh This seems to be the case with a lot of British gaming-related companies nowadays. Just burying their heads into the sand when it comes to feedback and trying to push on with business ideas from the 80s and 90s, as well as managing people like they're just cannon fodder. It's so sad to hear these behind-the-scenes stories about products that have infinite potential, if managed with love and care and not like a billion dollar megacorp. See this a lot in IT too.

At the end of the day, it isn't legally possible for a publicly traded corporation to operate ethically. The best they can do is pretend to be ethical, which a lot of large, well-run corporations do in order to improve their public image, but GW's management isn't smart enough to see the big picture and actually do this.

You're very welcome, thanks for watching!

Cheers Rob! Appreciate your positivity as always 😍👍

Well said.

I'm not sure if they needed to "defend" Ward, or if what they really needed was to make sure he is fair and balanced in his representation of the various factions. If my memories serves me correctly. I do believe his codices were actually some of the best of the time from a gameplay point of view. It just his lore excesses that become meme's that resulted in problems.

@@jamesespinosa690 unfortunately your memory doesn’t serve you. His lore was copied largely from the previous space marines codecs and them from the original ultramarines codex by Rick Priestly.

​@@MariusGage I think you may misunderstand my comment. And I am totally aware that 95% of the lore in the codex is copied from pre-existing editions. I think if you reread my comment you should find that I'm am not complimenting his "contributions" to the lore. I think his fluff was bad. But his crunch was good. His Blood Angel codex may be the best one they've ever had. His Grey Knights book was great.

@@jamesespinosa690 then I must ask, what lore did he write that was bad? Because I own those books and they’re completely in keeping with Rick Priestlys vision for the Ultramarines

Me too, I missed it entirely - what was the complaint against him?

There is a lot pushed on him by the community, some based on the word of some old guard writers and balancers like Gav Thorpe and Andy Chambers, and some is oresumption and heresay. Ward is generally regarded as the reason the 4e Lore-Determining worldwide Grand Narrative event didn't actually decide lore moving into 4e, potentially why the original Chapter Approved got axed, including 3 armies that beat Ultramarines and thenbgot shoehorned into being the reason those factions defended Terra, removing Custodes and Black Templar in the tale (the ones who beat him from CA in said Grand Narrativea, the reason those all stopped happening 2x an edition (or at all with lore consequences) and why and he pushed lore AND RULES retconning Ultramarines into the top SM spotlight and army-of-consequence. Also considered the reason balance became Marines must always be best, except those who beat UM in lore like BT, Tyranids, etc. Not sure how deep his actual rabbit hole goes but there's a lot of other stuff too, and the amount of stuff that doesn't necessarily have factoid/correlative basing aren't even among what's been brought up in my comment. Generally, he is also seen a major player internally for killing old world Fantasy

He is definitely a bit of a pariah among a few communities though

@@WarHogz He turned the Ultramarines into the Greatest Space Marines Ever that even other Space Marines looked up to.

​@seanholtzman4506 I feel like this could be a very informative comment but it is hard to parse because of your writing abilities.

Morback's team made most of Warcry and Kill team minis if you piece what little information trickle out of his instagram.

Nah man, they need those pennies for machining a new Primaris Lieutenant™ mould.

Do I forsee a Painting Phase and Midwinter Minis crossover and you can share some stories from GW?

Cheers man, too kind.

Thank you Squire.

I didn’t even notice this! All their cards credit the artists!

I also have to imagine that's the reason why we didn't see art included by all the masters who have worked both sides. Kev Walker, Ian Miller, Wayne Reynolds, and Raymond Swanland are, I believe, actively illustrating for Magic but didn't have stuff in the crossover set.

Cheers!

The rumors are some older factories that used to make gw paints now make their own. Potentially colour forge and army painter. Might all be made up though.

Very well said Joe 👍👍👍

To his credit, Pat said WH+ would go too.

We're not too fussed about swearing but the space marine censor machine is just funnier 🤣

😂🤣😂

All being well, first one this week.

@@thepaintingphase mega! Been looking forward to these

Yaaay! Such great vid love that guy

That'd never happen. They cant upsell that way

A Citadel branded litter picker.

@@WardenOfTerra Oh man I'm dying. It'd look like an eagle head and have an awkwardly designed grip.

Thanks on every point 😍👍

Well it was more of a run through of the rules for Pat and Geoff just to arm them for the campaign, but me and Pat are looking at filming a test, so if that looks okay then yeah why not.

Took me a while to notice what it could be, not that fussed really. Mistakes happen, continuity, wear and tear. My edits are littered with them 🤣

@@thepaintingphase Ha fair, just made me laugh after you mentioned all the effort/money that went into making the set pristine, and then them putting the paper down for the painting. I'd always assumed it was filmed separately... but there's the proof it wasn't. I'll definitely be keeping my eye on your work a bit closer though ;)

In Peachy’s defence, he does ride over to the studio in full bike leathers.

Yeah some classic Pat commentary there hahaha

They’ll be back as normal this week, promise.

Hey Tom, glad your enjoying the chats, I’ve been meaning to respond to your email, so I’ll get a response through to you tomorrow 👍

😂🤣😂

I watched the how to play Balckstone Fortress a few times.......... not sure why...... Thank you all so much for making our hobby relatable and interesting, although I am still in stitches about the otters pocket..... love this format so much.

I’m just impressed that us two got a mention at all.

Genuinely think you are onto something there. Also they rarely cover anything other than 40k .... AOS and Blood Bowl especially. I get that you could argue they are smaller games but proper videos would help those grow too. Hell I'm a fan of 40k, Sigmar/fantasy and blood bowl so it can happen.

Its because they want you to buy as many paints as possible

Great points, I believe we touch on this a little. Pete the Wargamer, infernal brush, they're all brilliant and successful and are indeed only hands.

@@thepaintingphase I might have posted too promptly. Really enjoyed the commentary around hands/face for videos and it might have finally given me the push to figure out my set up and record my face instead of just hands.

It’s mildly embarrassing, when it comes to the wet pallet.

I know they have the shiny studios the nice animations then it cuts to a big damp square of paper towel 😂 I mean Christ put it in a plastic tub at least 😂

Because I have lol

🤣 knew it 🤣

we can share the blame

Apologies to all Dave's

He's a good egg isn't he. Thanks for watching!