why everyone on Succession talks so weird

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The characters in Succession talk in riddles, metaphors, and euphemisms. Here's why.
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TV REVIEW/RECAP of: Succession(HBO)
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0:00 Riddles and Metaphors
0:24 0. Musk-See T.V
1:44 1. Talk Money To Me
4:29 2. Euphemisms for Peasants
Created by: Jesse Armstrong
Starring: Brian Cox, Sarah Snook, Jeremy Strong, Kieran Culkin, Matthew Macfayden, Nicholas Braun, Alan Ruck, Hiam Abbass, Adrien Brody, Peter Friedman, J. Smith-Cameron, Alexander Skarsgård
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@SceneItReviews Жыл бұрын

what's your favourite Succession line??

@kevincarter2020 Жыл бұрын

pillage the village

@PruneauYT Жыл бұрын

Usually Succession's best lines are witty and acidic snappy lines. With good reason, as they're fantastic. Who forgot Logan belting "He ate my fucking chicken. What's next, stick his cock in my potato salad?" Somehow, the one that stuck with me is the from the same episode the devastating one Tom said to Shiv during the yacht vacation : "I just wonder if the sad I'd be without you is less than the sad I get from being with you."

@briennetheles4024 Жыл бұрын

Woof... Woof

@briennetheles4024 Жыл бұрын

It's not that lemony - STOP putting LEMON in his EYES GREG

@dammitmom Жыл бұрын

He's on maneuvers

@khaldub Жыл бұрын

i knew my brain was broken when i nodded with Kendall over that $5 million mausoleum bit being a "good deal"

@Knowledgegod759 Жыл бұрын

LOL

@Manuel_Chinaski Жыл бұрын

Same . I nodded like I would do the same lol

@SceneItReviews Жыл бұрын

Yeah when Con bought the apartment from Marcia, I was like “$63 Million?!? Absolute stealllll”

@HibaSiddique101 Жыл бұрын

Thank God i wasn’t the only one! 🤣 jeeeez

@rhondac.891 Жыл бұрын

Lol, shit I thought it was too 😂

@caseyminnick7967 10 ай бұрын

I've always found it interesting that Succession is completely character driven. Plot points, buyouts, business deals, etc. are only relevant to the show because they create situations where the characters have to adapt, fight, switch teams, etc. When you're that rich, there isn't really material consequences, only personal ones.

@melizmatea 6 ай бұрын

I think that's just a good observation. And I think that's why I love the show so much!

@DiegoRodriguez-sn8jc 6 ай бұрын

Exactly! At first I was bothered by that, but I understood that all that wealth works as a tool, a narrative asset. Without material problems, the actors can develop their characters to the infinite

@pedro.gandra 2 ай бұрын

Only the characters are bad, unrealistic, have no arcs and no development, so the show is pointless lol.

@onothankyou 2 ай бұрын

Great point. When Kendall fired everyone and was spit on, that was maybe the closest to the outside world causing a consequence to one of them, and you can see that is what shocks him, not the action itself. (Also, I've only seen this show via shorts, so I'm ripe to be 'actually'd'.)

@itscaptainterry Ай бұрын

are the characters bad and show no development? maybe. is that unrealistic? if you live in a utopia, perhaps@@pedro.gandra

@melanoidmarkus 8 ай бұрын

Line of the show: "You can't make a Tomlette without breaking a few Gregs"

@williamalfonso1373 Жыл бұрын

Logan Roy "smart people know what they are" Roman "You are BS, we are all BS" I guess Roman was smart all along.

@LoneWulf278 Жыл бұрын

😂

@widowswail888 Жыл бұрын

Well not all along. He’s finally reached that epiphany I’d say just in time.

@MrDrNits Жыл бұрын

@@widowswail888 I think he did know all along though. I think all the siblings knew and just desperately wanted it not to be true, so they never accepted it.

@krystal7958 Жыл бұрын

Roman was the wittiest one all along

@xavolzm Жыл бұрын

I mean he's dumb but he's smart lol

@myspace2001 Жыл бұрын

As a former finance worker who led regular meetings with trustees, legal counsel and chief ___ officers, I can confirm people in that sphere 100% talk this way (albeit with less swearing). It was like playing 3 chess games at once. This show was a salve on the scars caused by the doublespeak (and double-think?)

@benjaminford1067 Жыл бұрын

Eh it’s not that hard to understand they use pretty simple words so you can get what they’re trying to say 90% of the time

@johndong7524 11 ай бұрын

No one talks like that in real life. Stop lying, you sad attention seeker.

@ronswansonsdog2833 11 ай бұрын

@@benjaminford1067it’s not really the words as much as it’s the syntax.

@JennyWas13 11 ай бұрын

As an Australian who works mostly with CFOs, the swearing is accurate for our country 😂

@SuperStella1111 10 ай бұрын

Umm. Stop. No one believes rich parasites are bright. Because they aren’t. They’re dim, over-confident nitwits. Don’t fall for the over-confidence. Behind closed doors they beg to be spanked.

@XandriaRavenheart 11 ай бұрын

As someone who left the corporate culture after getting sick of it, this exactly how most brand managers and directors talk. They just think they're more impressive when they can't be understood. 😂

@Kgknipp 10 ай бұрын

The wild thing about the show is at the end of the day they aren't really talking about anything. It's all anticipation of something big and meaningful happening but nothing concrete happens. Really the kids just wanted love and never got it the way they needed it. You have to wait entire seasons just to see someone get a hug that feels like it has any substance to it.

@alix8049 6 ай бұрын

this is so true. i saw a tweet that said no one really loses anything in succession; there's big fights and squabbles but the characters always end up in the same limbo, going in circles and trying to win while never facing the consequences of their actions. another reason why they're all so miserable

@alocessa 10 ай бұрын

I work for a CFO, I can confirm he loves it whenever he explains something in a way that no one understands

@maulekuul 7 ай бұрын

I work in Corporate Tech. Succession-speak is really just a jaded, sarcastic, vulgar version of actual business / corporate-speak, but the latter exists for a reason. There are important, nuanced concepts that are unique to, or much more common in business contexts, and metaphorical language is developed to reference or illustrate those learned lessons. I could say, "let's not test every possible scenario, because not only is that unnecessary, but it would take far too long, require far too many engineering hours and pull resources away from other efforts", or I could just say "let's not boil the ocean". This is just one example of the hundreds of useful turns of phrases that compress information into fewer words. The downside of corporate-speak is that not everyone understands it equally, resulting in a breakdown in communication. It can also be deployed intentionally to remain vague on project goals or progress.

@melizmatea 6 ай бұрын

hmmmmm- as someone who has never worked anywhere even close to the corporate world - I was in the arts, haha - I find that really interesting. But here's my question - is "business/corporate speak" spontaneously metaphorical or is it a language of its own with regularly used catch-phrases and expressions? Because on Succession it sounds like the words are just tumbling out of their mouths and I'm thinking "they are pretty damn brilliant for shallow idiots" !! I guess the writers have elevated it, so in the real world they aren't really that creative or imaginative...?!! Because if everyone in the business world could so easily come up with the inventive turn of phrases that Succession characters come up with (including Roman's gross, inappropriate, rude, and hyper-sexual ones!) they should be writers themselves!! (The first time through I couldn't stand Roman's non-stop disgusting verbal diarrhea; the second time I watched I guess I was inured to it because then I just had to marvel at how funny and creative he was in his revoltingness, haha!)

@elliott9628 5 ай бұрын

or you could just say 'testing all scenarios would require too many resouces'. The metaphor isn't the only option.

@briannab4037 2 ай бұрын

@@elliott9628 Humans generally prefer making up idioms instead of sounding like a robot

@Emily-kw8vn 10 күн бұрын

@@elliott9628 But it doesn't pack the same emotional punch. There's a reaction to the exaggeration of "boiling the ocean". Drives the sentiment much more effectively than a "testing all scenarios would require too many resources". One is heard, the other is FELT.

@philiolynott4886 Жыл бұрын

This is absolutely fantastic. I love the concept of "real people" or "serious people" and how their mindset essentially unpersons people based on how they are percieved. Like the finale of "we are bullshit" is the ultimate realization that they themselves are not "serious" or "real" people.

@kimberquirky Жыл бұрын

Yup, and then of course there is the lowest of the low… NRPI Wild. Awesome show!

@vintagerollers Жыл бұрын

This is the best thing I've ever read

@18skeltor 11 ай бұрын

Exactly, when you're not serious nothing is real and you can do whatever you want.

@Daniella9658 4 ай бұрын

Yes. I think Roman can finally acknowledge it because his father is gone. They are spoiled brats who actually could be enjoying a comfortable life instead of trying to be powerful too. Shiv was doing very well before she was dragged into the whole family business. But obviously Logan messed them up so much emotionally that they can’t see it, they can’t be happy without their dad’s approval so they end up like circus monkeys jumping up and down to entertain Logan, trying to be something they are not.

@lockekappa500 Жыл бұрын

Something Important that you didn't overtly mention (although I assume you're implying it by those last two quotes by Logan) is that Logan speaks the EXACT opposite of this style of speech. And I think it's meant to showcase just how direct and meaningful his words are, and why he cuts through all the bullshit that these people otherwise are waist deep in at all times. It's also why the show and these kids just fall right off the rails after his death.

@andrewkuenstler Жыл бұрын

He definitely does talk like this tough

@misssoso5859 Жыл бұрын

Um, no. He's the biggest bullshit-talker in the show. But he's the best at it because he can present it as "honest, direct" speech. He's so damn good at it that even some of the show's audience fell for it.

@lockekappa500 Жыл бұрын

@@misssoso5859 To clarify, I'm not saying he's more truthful, simply the way he gets across his lies is the polar opposite of the style presented in this video Although I do genuinely think he is speaking more from experience than ANYONE else around him. He is a dying breed for sure.

@SceneItReviews Жыл бұрын

I feel like the kids are the “anti-Logan” in a lot of ways, but there are definitely similarities in their metaphors and vague commands. Except - because he’s clearly had a long and storied career, and he’s actually had to work/battle to get to his position - Logan hides a lot of his vagueness in parables and anecdotes, which gives the illusion of it being trustworthy, wise and direct, rather than manipulative and deceptive. Also - words only carry as much weight as the person delivering them, and Logan clearly had a lot more influence/respect/power than the kids ever will - so his phrasing, no matter how similar to the kids, are received through a different filter. Just my read on it! It’s definitely an interesting point.

@lockekappa500 Жыл бұрын

@@SceneItReviews Yeah, I think I'd remove the part about his words not being bullshit, but I DO believe he is the antithesis of this type of speech. Even if his own method of speaking ends up with the same results. He does it in his own way. And like you said, with more weight carried behind them. Thanks for the response, have loved your Succession videos.

@senbujohns4489 11 ай бұрын

as a non native english speaker i got lost so many times while binge watching this show. This a masterpiece

@donalexey 11 ай бұрын

yeah, same here

@kyleconnor2759 11 ай бұрын

Final season wasn’t good.

@moonbeeps 10 ай бұрын

@@kyleconnor2759 The ending was horrible and (SPOILER)))))))) Logan's death was waaaay too soon. I kinda of lost interest when he was gone.

@kyleconnor2759 10 ай бұрын

@@moonbeeps agreed. The final season was way off. It’s being lauded because people don’t want to admit it fizzled badly.

@kyleconnor2759 10 ай бұрын

@@moonbeeps apparently they wanted to portray it more realistically, how a parent or loved one often dies unexpectedly and unceremoniously and when their loved ones aren’t nearby. This doesn’t really fit the tone of the show, so I think it was a bad choice and also think it happened way too early. Still a good show overall, especially seasons 1 and 2

@tabkaliO 11 ай бұрын

I've unfortunately worked in so many places like this where people never say they mean and deny what they agreed to. I just stopped believing what what was coming out their mouth and kept everything via email and Slack. It's a perfect illustration of WASP speak. Best quote from this video, "Vagueness is a weapon." It absolutely is for those who lack of a moral compass and who emprace a transactional way of life.

@runjumpdie 11 ай бұрын

So well put. Reminds me of Elon Musk and his endless promises of things that are “coming soon” or things he’s “looking into”. Vagueness allows him to backpedal, constantly.

@Saturnia2014 11 ай бұрын

In short: hyper sociopathy

@mittortz 10 ай бұрын

The truth is that no one knows what they are doing. Including people at the top, but the top are the ones with the power/task of big decision making. So they make decisions, but no one wants to take the accountability for when a decision ends up wrong. So its a game of passing the accountability to others through vagueness and denial. Is it wrong? That's hard to say. Again - no one knows what they are doing, but decisions have to be made.

@SmartStart24 10 ай бұрын

My old boss was like this…. I may or may not have a legal case building against him as we speak lol

@pissedpajamas5718 5 ай бұрын

@@Saturnia2014 you may call it sociopathy but I call it winning

@Mezzystar1 11 ай бұрын

For me, much of the relational dialogue in Succession is classic ‘narcissist word salad’. If you search for Narcissist word salad, there are many videos explaining what it is and how it sounds. I’d say it’s a conscious character choice by the writers and not just Jesse’s writing style.

@rheawelsh4142 11 ай бұрын

Narcissist word salad? Think you're just talking about some complicated airflow there

@Sockem1223 11 ай бұрын

@@kshamwhizzle6544found the guy who has never listened to JP but feels the need to comment on him anyway

@HeinousMarlborough 11 ай бұрын

@@Sockem1223 I liked some of his work, but he seems unhinged now. He literally fried his brain through drug addiction and experimental medical procedures in Russia.

@baxoutthebox5682 11 ай бұрын

Charlie Sheen’s coked out manic interview is a great example

@Winter-Alpha-Omega 11 ай бұрын

@@HeinousMarlboroughThe sanest Canadian psychologist:

@wrenguitar2813 10 ай бұрын

I work in tech and this is just high-level corporate speak lol. you hear stuff like “I need to get altitude on this situation” or “potential upside is mitigated by the situational margins” all the time.

@cUser691 10 ай бұрын

@wrenguitar2813 Can’t imagine what you must tolerate on a daily basis. Hard [and fun] enough to keep learning new languages and frameworks then to add on the interpretation of kooky corporate speak.

@wrenguitar2813 10 ай бұрын

@@cUser691 it can be quite annoying at times haha but usually it’s not too bad, you learn the ropes pretty quick (doesn’t help that the environment is sink-or-swim)

@TrulyMadlyShallowly 9 ай бұрын

I was in the same environment and pretty sure most people were only pretending to understand and wouldn't be able to explain back. Since nobody is ever asking, that is fine. It's 90% conceptual and almost exclusively dealing in imagery. I found it fascinating

@modestMousse 8 ай бұрын

The short version: it's corporate speak. Corporate English is a distinct language from Colloquial English and is intended to speak with a emotionally distant tone that instead emphasizes the importance of economic and business cultural values. And it's not wonder Chat GPT is so good at corporate speak. There's so much of it and one of the most valuable aspects of corporate speak is the ability to say little while evoking good feelings.

@manuscripts_wav Жыл бұрын

The main reason why I watch the show with Spanish subtitles is because they make a terrific job at translating these weird expressions to understandable language 😅

@jrry5032 6 ай бұрын

i'm gonna have to try watching the show that way! yeah all these characters mostly talk in corporate-legal-pr doublespeak, any method of translation for what these characters do and say is invaluable

@GiantPetRat 3 ай бұрын

No me digas! I was wondering how on earth they would properly translate this show, since it plays around so much with English to begin with. Which dialect would you say they translate into: peninsular, Mexican?

@user-ex7dj9qi2b 2 ай бұрын

@@GiantPetRat pues el dialecto del español corporativo es igual de horrible 😢 y mezclan muchísimo inglés ya de por si

@tevinaduma5789 10 ай бұрын

Tom and Greg's 'We here for you" is atop art of subtlety in a metaphor 😂

@MrGrimlocke 10 ай бұрын

We hear for you

@himurahaibara1459 10 ай бұрын

Yeah the use of buzzwords was funny and frustrating at the same time. I never heard people at work speak like this, maybe because i'm not in a high level position that requires riddle to communicate, idk. Also, i noticed the way Matsson speak depends on who he's talking to. He's an obnoxious tech billionaire with Ken, he's a misunderstood awkward guy with Shiv, a condescending bored apathetic rich guy with Roman, a straight forward businessman with Logan, a domineering control freak with Tom. He creeped me out 😅

@Retrostar619 7 ай бұрын

That is a very good abservation on Matsson. It's like he's switching personalities on-the-fly.

@melizmatea 6 ай бұрын

So true!

@susannadekkeractress 4 ай бұрын

That's the trait of a sociopath. Chameleons.

@rexibhazoboa7097 4 ай бұрын

everyone talks differently with different people. You wouldnt speak to you parents the same way you'll speak to your friends.

@Retrostar619 4 ай бұрын

True, but most people can't precisely fine-tune their personality to appeal to the individual in front of them, which is what pushes Matsson into the relms of a sociopath. That and his complete lack lack of empathy for people who are grieving.

@avaq2588 11 ай бұрын

Vagueness being used as a weapon to shift the reponsibilitly to the minon is something i experience every day with my manager who artfully says a lot while saying nothing... and it's always on me to figure it out because if i ask questions then I don't get it.

@alienated1057 Жыл бұрын

I really like the way they talk makes me feel like i should read more

@rohanbesra4831 Жыл бұрын

Lol, so true mate

@user-gj5cx9ik5m Жыл бұрын

Wait is this the guy from skillup?

@Ancient_Pollyanna Жыл бұрын

Makes me feel like I should argue more. LOL!

@dennisoc1715 Жыл бұрын

British people in general make me feel this way

@TangoNevada Жыл бұрын

It so much easier when it's outlined ahead of time and you have time to rehearse and modify it. No one get's that kind of help and time in real life. But it's great for a TV Show.

@flavsdepadua8516 10 ай бұрын

Whatever Kendall says something he goes overboard to sound like someone who knows what they’re talking about, because he’s insecure to be looked down upon. Rome doesn’t understand the base of human emotions so he try to explain his point with as many references he can come up with And Shiv tries to distance herself from the narrative to disguise her own thoughts and opinions behind a wall of objectiveness because she fears that people won’t listen to her if she isn’t being 100% factual.

@KatieBadenhorst 10 ай бұрын

I work in design and there's definitely a real obsession with language for marketing and ceo types. There's definitely a code that you have to speak, those all important buzz phrases which are constantly changing. It's definitely a symptom of the vapidity of corporate culture.

@TC0901 Жыл бұрын

It's funny, because I'v'e always thought everyone spoke weird minus Logan (at least most of the time for Logan). I think it's because he grew up poor so he didn't grow up with an entitled superior attitude from the beginning, as opposed to the kids which is why they speak differently to sound superior to others.

@howard5992 Жыл бұрын

his children are too dense to even think in cliches or, rather, they are too vacuous

@Manganization 11 ай бұрын

Logan was more direct but he also spoke in riddles. He rarely ever confirm or deny what he's saying. It's always left in the open so he can change his mind later.

@gadget00 10 ай бұрын

@@Manganization " It's always left in the open so he can change his mind later." This is brilliant actually LOL the kids try to emulate this and fail miserably over and over again

@bloosnail Жыл бұрын

Also it's so if someone overhears they won't know what the conversation is about

@SceneItReviews Жыл бұрын

Yeah it’s all smoke and mirrors. Absolves them of any responsibility and therefore accountability.

@DPMusicStudio 3 ай бұрын

I've grown tired of the "short video essay" format about popular media, but this video was a cut above. So good. Really good insights.

@daveblood00 Жыл бұрын

Kinda corporate, broish, hip hop-ish, super upper class vernacular

@HeinousMarlborough 11 ай бұрын

Stuck between identities.

@mr.d4743 Жыл бұрын

If Elon Musk and Pewdiepie had a child, that child would be 100% Lukas Matsson 😂😂😂

@j.k.3105 6 ай бұрын

Yes!! On point! 😄

@dawnm4371 Жыл бұрын

Their (the Kids) use of Language/'Lexicon' is on brand with the new generation, tech-style of communication. It is largely confounding for me, though nonetheless fascinating and a necessary exposure to this new world way of thinking and operating. I'm thankful to the writers for providing an educational glimpse into it...

@eduardocafaggi2376 11 ай бұрын

good analysis, loved the edit, the soundbites were great for exemplifying what was being explained. Great job.

@jolaii27 Жыл бұрын

This. I'm wondering why am I so invested even tho I don't fully understand business speak. Same thing happened when I watched The Big Short. I am so fascinated with the combination of business technical terms and almost poetic descriptions of things.

@pablopumarestaminiau7512 Жыл бұрын

Yeah. Kind of like watching old Star Trek with their sci-fi babble

@alohaarianna 7 ай бұрын

I never thought anyone on the show talked weird, it just felt normal to me for the tone of the show and the setting.

@jamesrosewell9081 6 ай бұрын

Same

@jazzauthor Жыл бұрын

Wow. Great video. Student of language here and the way people use it to cover up how they really feel and you nailed it here!

@lynnhubbard844 Жыл бұрын

I am a linguist and listen every second to how people communicate verbally, and this just blew me away every episode

@TheAussiePencil Жыл бұрын

This was a super interesting and unique take! Subscribed, your channel is underrated!

@prestely Жыл бұрын

Awesome videos ! Your analyses are brilliantly spotted! Congrats

@cloudsurfer73 11 ай бұрын

Funny because I just started watching this show and then you post this. Great timing. I was wondering this so badly, the way they talk is so awkward. Edit: It reminds me of Knives Out when they realize their billionaire is actually stupid but they all believe he's smart because he has money but he literally makes up words because he has no idea and instead steals others.

@kamu747 11 ай бұрын

Yeah, watching Knives out, Edward Norton kept using phrases and words that I, too, thought were wrongly used, I was confused, in fact, at aome point I started to doubt myself thinking, maybe I'm not aware of the expanded use, but It just didn't sit right with me up until the end of the movie when the Detective, to my relief, pointed the absurdity of it all. It was pretty smart and comical what the writers did with that angle of the storyline. 😂😂

@austin_minton Жыл бұрын

Great video analysis, the writing on the show is like nothing else I’ve seen

@RGBEAT Жыл бұрын

You should watch others works written by Jesse Armstrong. The Thick of It has many amazing lines, but it's a full comedy satire

@sidsrivastava6987 Жыл бұрын

Never has a show blended comedy with drama so well

@HeinousMarlborough 11 ай бұрын

@@sidsrivastava6987 Breaking Bad, Better Call Saul.

@pennystocklocks Жыл бұрын

Soprano's had the most realistic dialog to me

@olivergould5428 Жыл бұрын

I feel like I've just been stabbed in the heart

@kidnameless Жыл бұрын

Definitely. It’s such a large part of what makes it my favourite show. Characters don’t ever sound overly snappy and witty to the point of being obnoxious and unrealistic like they sometimes do in Succession. They often struggle to find the right thing to say, they stumble over themselves when they try to talk, they often make mistakes like using incorrect phrasing and malapropisms. They interrupt and talk over each other, and experience the sorts of misunderstandings you’d expect people to regularly experience in real life. When they talk subliminally or in code, it’s for a practical reason (avoiding self-incrimination when discussing illegal business), not just as a character quirk or an attempt to make the dialogue sound more intelligent. The writers on The Sopranos achieved a level of realism and believability in the character interactions that no other show I’ve seen has quite been able to live up to.

@funkymonk2893 11 ай бұрын

@@kidnameless You know Quasimodo predicted all this...

@lupercais 3 ай бұрын

@@kidnameless The Wire though

@ComedyBros5 2 ай бұрын

Justified is also up there with amazing dialogue

@istvanpalanki5316 11 ай бұрын

i don't think i ever found it weird. it's just pretty standard linkedin/businessbro talk overdone. it's pretty common to use this kind of speech to make fun of them reinventing really simple and basic things, it's the official out of touch language

@IndexFossilchannel 9 ай бұрын

This series is incredible! It seems that the strength of authorship of a good director was divided and leveraged between the screenwriters, the actors and the art department. ❤

@connorjoseph872 Жыл бұрын

Killer video man! I usually don’t noticed the script in video essays like this but you had some well worded points. Keep it up 🤙🏼

@jcarter5521 11 ай бұрын

amazing video man, you nailed it!

@jillmeredith2012 10 ай бұрын

Caroline: "This is Marsha. She was my Carrie". And Marsha at the funeral, sitting with Logan's harem: "At least he won't be grinding his teeth tonight."

@zack---black 10 ай бұрын

Really really great analysis and edit 🫡

@PruneauYT Жыл бұрын

I love when you look at cinema and TV with a telescope, to point at patterns across movie or an actor. And I also love it here's when you pull out your microscope to zoom in on smaller details. Not only their output on all facets of life, from business deals to the most intimate details, is transactional, it's also always on the view of winner/loser. You must crush someone, vanquish them, extricate your gain from them. Or, if they got what they want, it means they beat you. Oof, that sounds exhausting. And I've worked with people like that in the corporate world. They were usually certified sociopaths with no consideration for people whatsoever. Congrats on capping this series with panache and verve!

@SceneItReviews Жыл бұрын

thanks Bruno! yeah, i've met people in offices who were definitely...."lacking", shall we say, in empathy. what did you think of the finale??!

@PruneauYT Жыл бұрын

@@SceneItReviews I'm not one of those who were "rooting" for this and that character to win. It did happen during the show, but mostly because I wanted them to defeat Logan, not because intrinsically Shiv/Kendall/Roman deserved it. For the end, I wanted them to get a final scene as siblings, because those are so fantastic, and we got two, the Dad video and the Meal For for a King one. Splendid. And I also wanted them to be crushed miserably. Ideally, caused by all the wrongdoings they did over the past years. And boy, was I ever satisfied on that point! I'm only missing a final Gerri-Roman scene (which I'm sure they filmed and had to cut), and perhaps Marcia, although her swift absence was by itself so revealing about her, no line could come out any colder. What about you?

@SceneItReviews Жыл бұрын

Loved it! Really enjoyed the Meal for a King scene because it gave a nice parallel to the ‘boat scene’ from the end of Season 1 - showed that despite the backstabbing, they’ll always be family, and also gave a wholesome moment for the cast to say goodbye. Also loved that no one really “won” - a sobering reminder that they’re all pretty terrible people, and their motivations for retaining the company only boiled down to pride/selfishness/“so that other terrible guy doesn’t get it”. They were all given so many opportunities to “get out”, move on, and work together as a family throughout the season, and instead they chose self destruction. Couldn’t have asked for more, really! Will be forever on my television Mount Rushmore probably. Looking forward to seeing what the talented cast goes on to do 😇

@zsht Жыл бұрын

It’s just Jesse Armstrong’s dialogue style. Exactly the same in PeepShow.

@user-mt6hr4qf9n Жыл бұрын

I think the closer Armstrong project is The Thick of It - S2E10 of Succession has a lot of similarities to the select committee episode of Thick of It for example - it mines humour from the same joke (hilarious private emails being read out to a government committee). This isn't a criticism of it at all - I think Armstrong is a genius.

@ConfusedProud 10 ай бұрын

Yeah, this is a well put-together video but I think in reality, Succession's dialogue is just the Peep Show/Fresh Meat template with more corporate lingo stuck in

@zsht 10 ай бұрын

@@ConfusedProud I totally agree!

@AshRivera-qj8je 3 ай бұрын

They talk like that because they think in images. A lot of people think in text, in words. But they see it fluidly and can ergo speak on a platform of symbolism and metaphor.

@fatimamahdi5431 8 ай бұрын

This video is absolutely fascinating!!!

@luisinacasirola 10 ай бұрын

My favorite lines and expressions I've heard on Succession: Let us get our ducks in a row Now it's my time to habeas the corpus Everything everywhere is always moving, forever Soups on! People We didn't get you from a hiena farm Come homeward I'm not gonna chase him around the party like a schoolgirl with a crush Age Before Beauty. Oh, no, please, shit Before The shovel Go AWOL It was eventful I've burned villages and overthrown governments in your behalf My nearest and dearest I'm between the devil and the deep blue sea Honey Badger It's not in my best interest I can't see the bottom of the pool

@piece0fcharsiu 14 күн бұрын

"Talk Money to Me" reminds me of one line that really stood out to me which was when the sibs got together to try to tell Kendall they love him after he nearly drowned himself in the pool, Connor goes "we love you Ken", Kendall goes "What's the angle here?"

@liammacleod587 Жыл бұрын

Best succession video I’ve seen since the final

@lynncrosier7017 Жыл бұрын

Terrific video!!

@tbam73 Жыл бұрын

Nothing like a fictional character to make actual people feel less intelligent with the most ridiculous babble.

@undercover_idiot 11 ай бұрын

Great video!!

@space_1073 Жыл бұрын

this is brilliant.

@catsandjewels 3 ай бұрын

❤❤❤ just started watching now and I'm hooked ❤❤❤

@TobiBaronski 11 ай бұрын

Ye this is why the show strains my autism - which is also why I’m never working in business lmao But also, I thought this would be about how everyone seems to have the same little verbal tics like saying “nut-nut” instead of “nuts” and almost always asking “yeah?” for confirmation and never “ok?” or “right?”

@milpool8577 Жыл бұрын

Everything is code in this f-ing show.

@striderstache99 10 ай бұрын

I work in tech, have worked at a couple fintech and crypto startups and fortune 500 companies, All of this makes sense to me. I've been in this space for 8 years and I've heard all of this at some point in that time. It is... something.

@ToomanyFrancis 3 ай бұрын

"tell him that I'm going to run up off the fucking beanstalk" is possibly the best line of dialogue ever.

@zackcolosky9908 2 күн бұрын

the real answer is that most of the writing staff and main cast worked extensively in theater and a lot of theater is written in a way meant to feel dense and layered

@iseeadarkness2227 13 күн бұрын

As someone who works in the corporate world of creative agencies, the language was my favorite part. They were taking trending business terms we hear daily.its like the 40 year old version of how the 20 year old kids speak. It's still just people begging for relevance

@brightshadowable Жыл бұрын

That's why I love the ending; all of them suffers. 🎉

@gherve222 Жыл бұрын

Tom won tho

@williamalfonso1373 Жыл бұрын

@@gherve222 Tom and his Sporus (Greg)

@Crisopeia 11 ай бұрын

@@williamalfonso1373 and Roman

@mbizozo6271 Жыл бұрын

Man, I am going to miss this show!

@JM-iw3yp 11 ай бұрын

No one is listening to what you are saying, Everyone is listening to what you are doing, Your only protection from everyone acting, is sewing doubt. I love watching these conversations because you can see both characters guarding against one another, while knowing what is really being said. One scene I recall is Shiv and Sandy; season 3, retired janitors

@hwiese3448 Жыл бұрын

great vid

@lavendersvenus 11 ай бұрын

i love it, it makes my brain work hard

@BlowfishShorts 8 ай бұрын

I used to chauffeur quite a bit for various rich buttholes around NYC and I did not bat an eye with how they talked. I would say the amount of swearing is on point too. Just a new level of vulgarity is unlocked once you’re in the billions club 😂

@beardedbozo 11 ай бұрын

Your voice and writing reminds me sooooo much of Skill-Up

@karv9445 Жыл бұрын

"The bear is sticky with honey." - Gavin Belson

@neilfox9540 11 ай бұрын

I think the show just stays on the right side of trying to be too clever for it's own good. In real world people can rarely come up with sharp analogies or witty put downs on the fly like this. The other show I would compare is 'Billions' which has truly jumped the shark on it's ridiculous and obscure cultural references, the dialogue is too unnatural.

@jamesmurphy9630 Жыл бұрын

Cudos for ending the video with the best line in the last twenty years of television

@sanktalucia4959 Жыл бұрын

No one speaks like this in the corporate world, and I actually work in finance (investment banking).

@howard5992 Жыл бұрын

Correct. The family seemed inbred.

@dbsk06 9 ай бұрын

Same lol and agreed

@punchgod Жыл бұрын

Mark fisher’s concept of “business ontology”

@marlboroprime657 Жыл бұрын

Where did he write about that? I have his ghosts of the future and capitalism realism books, is it in one of those?

@punchgod Жыл бұрын

@@marlboroprime657 I know for sure he mentions business ontology in capitalist realism

@marlboroprime657 Жыл бұрын

@@punchgod thank you!

@ThatGuy-zt6po Жыл бұрын

I know I was clueless and just went with the white noise all season because yeah fast-talking business guys were talking.😏

@shawnnbits 9 ай бұрын

Haha im so glad this shows over so i can watch via retrospectives

@carekat6848 Жыл бұрын

It’s the dithering that drives me mad!

@lefthandedbastard 11 ай бұрын

I think i'm addicted to the structure of your video essays

@helloitsdaniel 2 ай бұрын

sometimes whenever i hear dialogue from succession my brain is not braining. i thought i was the only one

@diamonddog13 Жыл бұрын

I always wondered why the Roy siblings keep saying "yaw" like characters from Fargo. Tom is supposed to be the one from Minnesota.

@ganghis-ken2744 6 ай бұрын

Its an incredibly ambitious compliment to Musk in comparing him to Madsen...

@alisonwilliams1747 4 ай бұрын

Jesse Armstrong is so good at capturing character through dialogue and their linguistic choices. You can see it i Peep Show as well. Jeremy is insecure slacker who wants to feels successful and insightful, and grabs at words often in a nonsensical way quite similar to Greg just to try and fill the air when he has to. Mark is just insecurity with a coat of intellectualism over the top and relies heavily on his intellect to feel superior via historical references to intentionally confuse people like Jez who he sees as below him

@ronswansonsdog2833 11 ай бұрын

This show was everything.

@6banzai5 Жыл бұрын

it's almost like obscure Yoda finance speak. kind of backwards with riddles and interpretations.

@DurzoHighwind Жыл бұрын

Silo next, pls!

@westside1912 11 ай бұрын

I was hoping you would have included the incessant "yeah?" the Roys use throughout the series. Maybe in another video, yeah?

@SceneItReviews 11 ай бұрын

I feel like it's probably just another example of them using vagueness/noncommittal linguistic choices as a smokescreen from their lack of concrete decisions. It passes responsibility to the person they're talking to, which absolves them of any subsequent mistakes.

@SamanthaHenderson1 11 ай бұрын

It’s the British writers. There’s a loooooooot of British phrasing in this show.

@08C6PaceCar Жыл бұрын

Someone should count the # of times characters in succession say “yeah” the screenwriters’ favorite word 😂

@TrulyMademoizelle Жыл бұрын

Yeah?

@TM-rc3ck Жыл бұрын

I think it’s because the kids can’t put their words out. They, and others who speak to them, use it constantly, and those who are speaking to them mirror them, rather than trying to find out exactly what they mean.

@sunnydaze2359 Жыл бұрын

Definitely not. I’ll bet if you counted the times the F word was used, you’d surely lose. 😂

@LaurenJacksonlocs29 Жыл бұрын

I was looking for this comment! Lol I can’t unhear it. Pretty sure its the british writers to blame 😂

@HABO2210 11 ай бұрын

I think we should give it a try, yeah?

@dighyyhfbngfcb 4 ай бұрын

Bring ambiguous is an important leadership skill

@alexroselle 11 ай бұрын

Kendall talks like Bojack Horseman, if Bojack were the failson of a corporate robber Baron

@jackashmore 7 ай бұрын

When Logan dies and Roman shows them the stock drop and say “that’s dad” was dark as shit

@blaustein_autor Ай бұрын

The sibs' and their father's greatest delusion are both called out in the show: Shiv comes at Logan for believing all his success was merited: "You just say and do things and it works out, so you believe you were right." (not the exact words, but the meaning) And Logan, as the video pointed out, reminds his kids that they don't know the struggle. But they delude themselves into thinking that was mere envy, that they are some sort of higher-evolved beings than their dad, because they were born rich.

@AI-xe6bx 5 ай бұрын

When Greg was worried about an "attack child" breaking into the room during a lockdown!

@ThomasBorbon Ай бұрын

great show

@anacarl5035 10 ай бұрын

i kept wondering why they spoke using words that made no sense together as terms. it was clearly a great stylistic choice

@cnpnrbs 2 ай бұрын

Understanding all the episodes without being native English speaker was challenging af

@rosariomitaccrodriguez4919 Жыл бұрын

Being a non-native English speaker, this show was somewhat hard to understand at times...

@frankievalentine6112 Жыл бұрын

I understood every word and creative verbal joke, but it's all so fast I would watch each episode 2 or 3 times to catch everything just because of the speed.