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CHAPTERS
00:00 Intro
01:32 Background
04:25 Breakdown
05:58 Conservatorship
06:58 What is a Conservatorship?
19:17 What does this mean for Britney?
21:25 Why the renewed interest?
25:18 Better options than conservatorship
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@jessicaoutofthecloset
@jessicaoutofthecloset 3 жыл бұрын
Sources: people.com/music/britney-spears-conservatorship-extended-until-august-due-to-coronavirus-outbreak/ kzfaq.info/get/bejne/oblpetygnLDIf2w.html www.tmz.com/2020/07/23/britney-spears-conservatorship-hearing-torpedoed-by-public/ twitter.com/sonlightfoot/status/1230811769997856768?s=20 theblast.com/136364/freebritney-handwritten-letter-from-britney-spears-resurfaces-sh theblast.com/c/britney-spears-kevin-federline-restraining-order-jaime-child-abuse theblast.com/c/britney-spears-father-jamie-under-investigation-child-abuse www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-news/news/britney-spears-is-exploring-ending-her-conservatorship/ theblast.com/139235/britney-spears-dropped-over-1-million-on-conservatorship-legal-f www.nytimes.com/2019/05/17/arts/music/britney-spears-conservatorship-mental-health.html
@Zanderren
@Zanderren 3 жыл бұрын
Jessica Kellgren-Fozard Thank you for this review spreading awareness❤️
@N_0968
@N_0968 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@wileyfox2704
@wileyfox2704 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this story well researched video!. What happens if Brittany's dad were to die? Also, what if she really is deeply unhinged, as in she would buy a hot coffee just to throw it into someone's face etc.?
@miegravgaardxoxo
@miegravgaardxoxo 3 жыл бұрын
Wileyfox No1Fan Some person said it would probably be her sister or brother getting the guardianship instead. I dont think they necessarily go to court to review the case if it had been in the nearest past. I dont know anything about it though, but considering how corrupt this issue is, it is what I would consider could happen.
@N_0968
@N_0968 3 жыл бұрын
Wileyfox No1Fan If she was that unhinged would she be able to do the work she does?
@rainswings1190
@rainswings1190 3 жыл бұрын
The fact she isn't allowed to talk about her conservatorship should be all people need to know to realize there's something deeply wrong here
@alisonbarker3862
@alisonbarker3862 3 жыл бұрын
EXCELLENT point.
@nicolajaynehodson9223
@nicolajaynehodson9223 3 жыл бұрын
once again ' the land of the free' proves it is not. there is no equivalent process in the UK , short of someone remaining on an Mental Health Act Section
@prlegal411
@prlegal411 3 жыл бұрын
I cannot remember who said it but there is a famous quote and I know I’m paraphrasing but it’s along the lines of “that which you cannot criticize is what controls you”. So if Britney isn’t allowed to speak up about the conservatorship that was done absolutely for a reason. The same goes for a job where you have to sign “happiness contracts” stating that you’ll never say anything bad about the business and they’ll sue you or fire you if you do, or oppressive governments where people are not allowed to speak out, or demonstrate against those in power for fear of violence. They have her voice under lock and key for a reason.
@Michael-wx7dr
@Michael-wx7dr 3 жыл бұрын
Very true. The only time she spoke about it in an interview it was cut out when it aired
@erikdaniels0n
@erikdaniels0n 3 жыл бұрын
Or hire her own lawyer/fire her appointed lawyer who’s sketchy as hell
@tiredthesbian1731
@tiredthesbian1731 3 жыл бұрын
“She’s the worst driver” so are half the people on the road, Bryan, that has nothing to do with conservatorship
@ashildrtheswift3028
@ashildrtheswift3028 3 жыл бұрын
Right? So let her have a chauffeur or something? If we put every bad driver under conservatorship, hardly anyone would have rights.
@elisecollins8467
@elisecollins8467 3 жыл бұрын
if someone is a dangerous driver, you take away their licence, not all their civil rights!
@prlegal411
@prlegal411 3 жыл бұрын
Like Jessica said, Britney certainly has the means to hire a chauffeur.
@Michael-wx7dr
@Michael-wx7dr 3 жыл бұрын
Doesn't it really say everything about what the mentality is of those around her? They've basically gaslit her into control and submissivness based on minor things like being a bad driver. Other celebrities have killed people with cars. He said "Is she going to make reservations for herself?" as if every other celebrity doesn't have an assistant to do that for them.
@TorturedScribbler
@TorturedScribbler 3 жыл бұрын
He’s never gone to the west part of the world. There’s men driving like idiots behind the wheel of a mustang. My mom said that two men died in front of her apartment complex bc they were acting like idiots behind a wheel. Passenger flew out of the car dead at the scene, the driver was dead in his seat. Bad drivers are all over the place.
@erikdaniels0n
@erikdaniels0n 3 жыл бұрын
The fact that she A) can’t speak about the conservatorship, B) can’t do interviews that aren’t pre-scripted and C) can’t hire her own lawyer scream that there’s something very fishy and very illegal going on behind the scenes, and it’s utterly disgusting
@howdydoody9800
@howdydoody9800 2 жыл бұрын
Nope, perfectly legal. The laws and system are wrong. The attorneys wrote the laws. This can happen to anyone, including you , tomorrow. You don't need to have any disability, just assets. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/d8uSh9KEmsvWm3k.html www.blogtalkradio.com/hiddentruthrevealed stopguardianabuse.org/
@jordonrowe6484
@jordonrowe6484 3 жыл бұрын
The baby on her lap situation was when Britney was leaving a shopping centre, with no security. Her car was surrounded by paparazzi and she was alone with her baby. She fleed the situation by holding her baby on her lap. It’s not as if she was out for a leisurely cruise. She was harassed by dozens of men surrounding her with cameras. She had to act quickly for the safety and well-being of herself and her child. That’s important to include when reciting the incident.
@madfairy
@madfairy 3 жыл бұрын
Also her uncle shared this story about Britney's father being drunk and deciding to drive his car with 4 year old Britney on it, her uncle had to fight Jamie to stop him while baby Britney screamed and cried. Britney's sister let her daughter drive a ATV which almost resulted in her death and nobody questioned Britney's father or her sister. It's infuriating.
@AnitaSouthall
@AnitaSouthall 3 жыл бұрын
I did not know that information, very helpful indeed
@katherinemorelle7115
@katherinemorelle7115 3 жыл бұрын
Wow. I had no idea of the context. All I ever saw were the pictures and the judgement. It makes a lot more sense now.
@ChickenOfAwesome
@ChickenOfAwesome 2 жыл бұрын
Same with the incident where she was lambasted for "almost dropping" her baby. Yeah, she almost dropped the baby while literally fleeing a mob of paparazzi, who then sold the footage of it to tabloids who turned it into 'Britney is a terrible mother' rather than 'our photographers almost injured an infant due to their harrassing its mother.
@SonsOfLorgar
@SonsOfLorgar 2 жыл бұрын
Sounds like yet another attempted Lady Diana style homicide by papparazi
@miae5358
@miae5358 3 жыл бұрын
She can’t even tell anyone what’s happening because she can be sent to jail.... that should not be a thing. Also the fact that she can’t hire a lawyer.... that’s absurd!
@colettelee1162
@colettelee1162 3 жыл бұрын
Also, her appointed lawyer, Sam Ingham, whom she cannot fire, has a lawsuit against him for conspiring to kill US radio legend Casey Kasem for financial gain. According to Billboard, he showed up at the Kasem's house with an armed guard to force Kasem, who was in his eighties and living with dementia, into a conservatorship. His wife vehemently protested his being taken away (and they call her crazy, of course), but less than a month later when Kasem's daughter was able to visit him, his health had declined so rapidly that he was close to death. His widow filed the lawsuit accusing Ingham of conspiring with his older children to isolate him so he would die for their financial gain. Ingham made large amounts of money off of the family in legal fees. This is the person who was chosen as Britney's lawyer. He's never going to let her go willingly
@Lytah84
@Lytah84 3 жыл бұрын
@@colettelee1162 OMG
@user-ox5nh8kx1l
@user-ox5nh8kx1l 3 жыл бұрын
Even people in jail are allowed to hire their own lawyers! 😞
@Avnirvana1
@Avnirvana1 3 жыл бұрын
I know, right? What happened to the bill of rights
@eddie8409
@eddie8409 3 жыл бұрын
isn't that literally against freespeech this system is insanely stupid
@jingles1176
@jingles1176 3 жыл бұрын
It is rather strange to me that a serial killer has the right to choose their own lawyer while britney can't.
@user-ri2qn4qo4k
@user-ri2qn4qo4k 3 жыл бұрын
Damn. Well put.
@BigEyesSmallMouth
@BigEyesSmallMouth 2 жыл бұрын
Serial killers don't make boatloads of money for people like Britney does. And yeah, they definitely have more rights than she does. She's basically a very productive milk cow.
@purplekittigaming
@purplekittigaming 2 жыл бұрын
@@BigEyesSmallMouth She's a slave. That's all I see to it. Infuriating.
@monicapadron7952
@monicapadron7952 2 жыл бұрын
@@purplekittigaming it’s disgusting honestly this is not what Britney deserves!! She didn’t write slave for u to be a golden goose for people praying on her downfall
@sarahcuda7096
@sarahcuda7096 3 жыл бұрын
BRITNEY CANT EVEN VOTE?! what the hell! My grandfather with Alzheimer’s voted in the 2016 presidential election
@MsBrendalina
@MsBrendalina 3 жыл бұрын
The poor girl isn't even allowed to discuss politics on her own social media (her handlers made her delete a pro-Hillary post). Even literal children have that right! But Brittany isn't allowed to publicly express an opinion!
@lazyhomebody1356
@lazyhomebody1356 3 жыл бұрын
@@MsBrendalina A lot of the ways they control Britney is to keep raking in the money. Politics and tweeting doesn't work well
@PeacefulSlumber
@PeacefulSlumber 3 жыл бұрын
It's beyond disgusting!
@jessicaabbott10
@jessicaabbott10 3 жыл бұрын
That explains how trump won lol
@susanwilliams2392
@susanwilliams2392 3 жыл бұрын
Funny story: I'm blind and so can't drive, yet somehow I still manage to retain my basic human rights
@otterstarwarriorcats889
@otterstarwarriorcats889 3 жыл бұрын
Funny story: my sister has elongated muscles and dysgraphia so she can’t write well, yet she still manages she maintain her basic human rights
@susanwilliams2392
@susanwilliams2392 3 жыл бұрын
@@otterstarwarriorcats889 Wow, it's almost like these skills aren't essential requirements for being treated like a person!
@marthahawkinson-michau9611
@marthahawkinson-michau9611 3 жыл бұрын
I have uncontrolled epilepsy, dyslexia, diabetes, and brain trauma. AND I still have my basic human rights.
@8LyJu8
@8LyJu8 3 жыл бұрын
I'm autistic, dyslexic and have PTSD/depression: I don't drive because people seem to resist the idea of driving properly. So I just use public transportation.
@suzanne5807
@suzanne5807 3 жыл бұрын
My brother has an acquired brain injury and isn't able to wash his hands without help, is under our mothers guardianship, and he still has his basic human rights, because mum listens to him and considers what he wants as a priority. Britney is not respected by her so called father at all, it makes me so angry.
@ladydrace
@ladydrace 3 жыл бұрын
I'm 38, just like Britney, and my son was taken from me because of my then undiagnosed autism. I've been trying to get him back for 9 years now, but the diagnosis which was supposed to (and did to an extent) help me get better is now standing between me and my child. Anything I say in my defense can be waved away with "oh she doesn't know what she's saying, poor dear". This is disregarding how I'm pretty much single-handedly taking care of my mother who is sick with cancer, how I have always handled myself in every single other aspect of life, and how my son cries with grief every single time I'm forced to send him back to his carers after his home visits. So. Free Britney. And give all of us a more hopeful future.
@N_0968
@N_0968 3 жыл бұрын
Lady Drace I’m so sorry to hear that. I sincerely hope you’ll get him back. Why can’t your capacity be evaluated by an unbiased expert?! The system is so flawed.
@erinaa9486
@erinaa9486 3 жыл бұрын
Oh my gosh I'm so very sorry for your and your son. 😭 The system is so broken
@seratonin7004
@seratonin7004 3 жыл бұрын
From this comment alone it's very clear this situation should be reassessed. I'm so very sorry for your heartache. 💕
@missnoneofyourbusiness
@missnoneofyourbusiness 3 жыл бұрын
I truly hope things get better for you and your son ♡♡♡
@carolinemcgovern4488
@carolinemcgovern4488 3 жыл бұрын
Oh, that is horrible. Both for you and your child. I hope things get better for yourself and Britney.
@ClearwaterKB
@ClearwaterKB 3 жыл бұрын
Wait, if she had early onset dementia, at that age, she should be incapacitated now. I smell something fishy... That diagnosis needs to be contested and she needs to have her rights restored immediately.
@impishrebel5969
@impishrebel5969 3 жыл бұрын
It's more likely she had memory issues rather than alzheimer's from either mental illness or possibly a B12 deficiency, which mimics alzheimer's to the point doctors misdiagnose low B12 as alzheimer's
@jwb52z9
@jwb52z9 3 жыл бұрын
@@impishrebel5969 Alzheimer's Disease isn't the only form of dementia, just so you know. I'd wager a lot of "regular" doctors aren't really aware of the B12 problem, at least in the US, because very few American doctors are taught anything about nutrition.
@natirasohumana
@natirasohumana 3 жыл бұрын
She didn't have early onset dementia, they got that from up their asses. There was no time to diagnose anything
@emjenkins464
@emjenkins464 3 жыл бұрын
@@jwb52z9 Which is ironic because any odd behaviour, pain, etc in young healthy looking women and teenage girls in the UK is typically treated with a round of deficiency blood tests (Iron, B12, vitamin D) followed by supplements and/or a hormonal contraceptive. You need to clearly have a proposed condition in order to get a real diagnosis or even move towards one first time.
@MajaBiana
@MajaBiana 3 жыл бұрын
@@emjenkins464 Very often the case here in Denmark too.
@sophiaw2195
@sophiaw2195 3 жыл бұрын
So Britney has supposedly has had ~early onset dementia~ since her twenties without having any break in her work schedule??? That's absolutely ridiculous. #FreeBritney
@luxikova
@luxikova 3 жыл бұрын
Early onset dementia yet miraculously can memorize lyrics and choreography for financially successful world tours and sold out shows in Vegas. It’s so upsetting.
@Me-mb1ex
@Me-mb1ex 3 жыл бұрын
And I don’t get why her team really doesn’t seem to get that the worse off they try to make her look mentally, the more incompetent it makes them look. Like who tf lets someone with dementia SO severe that she can’t pick her own boyfriend do years long residencies in Vegas and work nonstop for over a decade? They’re either frauds or grossly incompetent, there is no in between where they look good in this.
@AN-bo5ej
@AN-bo5ej 3 жыл бұрын
Early onset dementia doesn't occur until your 50s or 60s.
@tiredtears4177
@tiredtears4177 3 жыл бұрын
@@AN-bo5ej typically. But there are cases of early onset dementia setting in a person's 30s. I watched a terribly sad documentary of a woman who died when she was 32. That being said OBVIOUSLY she doesnt have dementia. Maybe severe mental illness caused by trauma/family abuse (dissociation) but that is not dementia. Her father is pure evil!
@ChickenOfAwesome
@ChickenOfAwesome 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, if she has dementia, I want to know what super drug they've got her on because she's doing better than any other patient on the planet. I have known people with early onset dementia - they can go from still being able to hold a coherent conversation, and needing some supervision but not 24/7 care, to not being able to walk, being aggressive, unmanageable and needing round the clock watching in a matter of years, sometimes less. And while my grandmother wasn't early onset, she went from 'confused' to 'danger to herself' in a year or two. It's been what? 20 years? And Britney's performing, interviewing, coherent. At this point that's not even 'slow going' dementia, that's 'miracle cure'.
@starlight5123
@starlight5123 3 жыл бұрын
She literally has a gag order ...she cant talk about her abuse
@PutinsMommyNeverHuggedHim
@PutinsMommyNeverHuggedHim 3 жыл бұрын
That’s what’s crazy!!! What happened to freedom of speech!!!!
@emerald764
@emerald764 3 жыл бұрын
I had no idea about that until watching this video. How utterly horrifying. I can't believe that's even legal.
@theresaegan3129
@theresaegan3129 3 жыл бұрын
Ellie #BernieIsKing money speaks louder than reason
@user-ri2qn4qo4k
@user-ri2qn4qo4k 3 жыл бұрын
That's honestly one of the most disturbing things about the entire situation. ☹
@MsBrendalina
@MsBrendalina 3 жыл бұрын
I don't see how that is legal! Like...if Brittany is beaten, raped, etc while in her father's "care", she could get in trouble for calling the cops? Thats insane! I've met disabled adults under conservatorship because they had the mental capacity of a toddler. And they had more autonomy and rights than Brittany does!
@KasumiEight
@KasumiEight 3 жыл бұрын
It’s sick that her dad using her disability to have her money. It’s seems like a working scheme, which is terrifying.
@daylightbright7675
@daylightbright7675 3 жыл бұрын
She's been being blatantly exploited since she was a teenager 😔 It's so sad
@iamthekateastrophe4146
@iamthekateastrophe4146 3 жыл бұрын
Bears some similarity to Bryan Wilson’s exploitation
@bananamanchester4156
@bananamanchester4156 3 жыл бұрын
@@daylightbright7675 even before then! She started working at about 5 years old
@skeletoninyourbody9896
@skeletoninyourbody9896 3 жыл бұрын
I have some distant relatives who are using their disabled grandpa with brain damage to get his money for stuff and he is usually left hungry and unwashed. Since he has brain damage (I think it's from stroke but I totally forgot) he personally has a thing that he fixates on and that's traveling from town to town and they leave him unmonitored and once he was missing for 2-3 days and they found him on the road, almost dead from freezing. I'm so disgusted by ableism in my country....
@Saitaina
@Saitaina 3 жыл бұрын
There is no evidence of this.
@laurenconrad1799
@laurenconrad1799 3 жыл бұрын
"Her estate is hugely wealthy and very complicated to manage." So is that of many wealthy people. That's why financial advisors exist. You don't need a legal guardian to calculate the income from national tours and albums sales and movies. You need an accountant.
@Isirian
@Isirian 3 жыл бұрын
Yep. Also the whole "oh, she doesn't know how to drive or do this and that". Well, she can hire a driver. Or hire somebody to teach her to drive better. She can hire people to help her. Also, if it was really about helping her, then why not slowly teach her after she got better? Her father could have just slowly get her into the business side until she was actually capable of managing it. And if she happened to hire a bad person at some point for something? Well, that sucks, but that's also how you learn. You reflect on what possible red flags you missed, what you should have looked for and you learn.
@margaretduran8586
@margaretduran8586 3 жыл бұрын
My wife admires you greatly. She is blind in right eye and losing her hearing. As a gay disabled woman she thinks you are amazing and you are a great inspiration to her.
@colorbar.s
@colorbar.s 3 жыл бұрын
That's so sweet!
@Bluey306
@Bluey306 3 жыл бұрын
Jessica's barely concealed rage when she turns to the other camera and goes, "...by middle-aged men!" is a big honest to God mood.
@lrm9298
@lrm9298 3 жыл бұрын
It was the moment I decided to subscribe Haha
@gozerthegozarian9500
@gozerthegozarian9500 3 жыл бұрын
It's the mood I've been in for over 30 years...
@Trekkifulshay
@Trekkifulshay 3 жыл бұрын
I've always found it sketchy the men who live off her money can tell the court she's not capable of taking care of her own money. Seems like a conflict of interest at the very least.
@MeAVE243
@MeAVE243 3 жыл бұрын
Totally. She should at the least have an advocate. Even children get advocates in court.
@katherinemorelle7115
@katherinemorelle7115 3 жыл бұрын
Not to mention that lawyer saying he did well, by growing her fortune by $20m. But he worked for her (dad) for years! She earned over $100m a year. Where did all of that money go? Saying her fortune has grown by $20m is a bad thing when it should I’ve grown by hundred of millions in that time.
@finchhawthorne1302
@finchhawthorne1302 3 жыл бұрын
“Well, we weren’t able to hear wether this person deserves rights, better default to continuing to restrict those rights.” Yikes.
@ju13hpm
@ju13hpm 3 жыл бұрын
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@leegornik8656
@leegornik8656 3 жыл бұрын
Timestamp?
@jadezephyr
@jadezephyr 3 жыл бұрын
@@leegornik8656 25:02
@fnjesusfreak
@fnjesusfreak 3 жыл бұрын
It's a catch-22.
@BionAvastar3000
@BionAvastar3000 3 жыл бұрын
There's a hearing on the 19th, and then again on the 22nd. Show up to the rally if you're in LA
@localtavernsluteplayer2182
@localtavernsluteplayer2182 3 жыл бұрын
The world is so quick to jump on the "women are crazy" assumption it's sick that people still enforce these misogynistic views
@anna_in_aotearoa3166
@anna_in_aotearoa3166 2 жыл бұрын
100% This situation reeeeally reminded me of historical situations where women were fraudulently incarcerated in mental hospitals under supposed "hysteria" diagnoses, in order for their families or spouses to grab their inheritances or financial assets. It's frankly horrifying.
@goldilockz6517
@goldilockz6517 Жыл бұрын
Society hasn’t progressed as much as we’d like to think it has. Misogyny indeed.
@trichechus20
@trichechus20 3 жыл бұрын
WTF She’s not even allowed to look at her bank statements without fearing that her dad will put her in a mental institution....
@altheawilson717
@altheawilson717 3 жыл бұрын
Sounds like nothing more than a criminal operation run by narcissistic, sociopathic, psychopathic sadists aimed at exploiting a rich, influential person.
@Arlothed1no
@Arlothed1no 3 жыл бұрын
Britney Spears treats her children with such respect because she doesn't want her children to experience what she did and she can't even see her children.
@blueberry-ki9ok
@blueberry-ki9ok 3 жыл бұрын
Love your profile photo ☺️
@aussie_mozzie
@aussie_mozzie 3 жыл бұрын
@@blueberry-ki9ok I agree. **Happy ace noises**
@jayquillberry4972
@jayquillberry4972 3 жыл бұрын
@@aussie_mozzie Same
@jayquillberry4972
@jayquillberry4972 3 жыл бұрын
@@blueberry-ki9ok Same
@Bluewah
@Bluewah 3 жыл бұрын
@@aussie_mozzie same haha
@laurenconrad1799
@laurenconrad1799 3 жыл бұрын
"It doesn't mean I need to be under a conservatorship. It just means I need to be empowered to help myself." Well said!!!!!
@sandraallen8832
@sandraallen8832 3 жыл бұрын
Yesssss!!!!!
@tinycomedian
@tinycomedian 3 жыл бұрын
Due to some disability you are forced to either lose your medical coverage if you work or have a conservatorship and have a trust in someone else’s name
@user-ri2qn4qo4k
@user-ri2qn4qo4k 3 жыл бұрын
@@tinycomedian That's absolutely terrible. It shouldn't be that way. ☹
@RenayEmond
@RenayEmond 3 жыл бұрын
HELLO??? Is that not EVERY EARTHLING? Know I'm "DISABLED" but... Isn't EVERY LIFE in NEED of this? Is it ONLY THE "DISABLED" ??? Can ANYTHING LIVE without a PROPER SUPPORT SYSTEM? Sorry, just seems BASIC to me but maybe I'm missing something?
@tinycomedian
@tinycomedian 3 жыл бұрын
Renay E some dont need to rely on ppl daily so no. Well most people do well with a support system there are many people who are a support system or someone else or do not really rely on someone or a group of people daily and weekly or monthly to get by
@cecefernandes5657
@cecefernandes5657 3 жыл бұрын
This sounds dangerously like ownership over a person. Being able to say who they see, what happens with their money, their time, their property, ect, is wholly ownership. Britney, or anyone, shouldn't be punished as such for poor mental health- especially when that mental health is made poor because of this messed up system we live in.
@kiriki4558
@kiriki4558 3 жыл бұрын
That's actually slavery. It fit's the definition i think.
@amcd85
@amcd85 3 жыл бұрын
And this is happening to so many people who are not in a position to get public support. It’s a sad thing that many abusive family members do to other families members. Not to mention the host of domestic situations involving financial abuse.
@amcd85
@amcd85 3 жыл бұрын
*domestic partnerships
@amypieterse4127
@amypieterse4127 3 жыл бұрын
Conservatorship the new form of slavery.
@kathleenjohnston3582
@kathleenjohnston3582 3 жыл бұрын
Jaime spears sees Britney as a possession not a person :(
@Conformist138
@Conformist138 3 жыл бұрын
Not having her own lawyer is my one big flapping red flag. It should be 100% illegal for a person in this circumstance to not have either their own counsel or a fully independent lawyer or advocate appointed by the Court.
@autumnsirens
@autumnsirens 2 жыл бұрын
They do in my state. The laws vary by state in the US and I really wish that had been pointed out in the video.
@faefolkarts
@faefolkarts 3 жыл бұрын
My dad was more sick than she currently is and has more rights. My mom is in charge of a lot of things for him but he still has a lot of autonomy. Passing out in the middle of the store and being in a fog 24/7 for 8 years and still has more rights than Britney.
@Snflwrchick
@Snflwrchick 3 жыл бұрын
Ace Pixie Same goes for my aunt. She is under a much needed guardianship, and has more rights than Britney does. I know we will never get the full story, but I do hope the situation for Britney is evaluated and changed for the better.
@MajaBiana
@MajaBiana 3 жыл бұрын
My grandmother has dementia to such a degree that she sometimes doesn't even recognise her own daughters and she has a lot more liberty and rights than Britney Spears.
@christafranken9170
@christafranken9170 3 жыл бұрын
My uncle has a severe mental disability, making his ability to make desisions comparable with a todler. Nothing wrong with that, he is a great person and very happy with his life. He also is under guardianship, but he still has the right to vote..
@faefolkarts
@faefolkarts 3 жыл бұрын
I'm just gonna explain this since I spoke to my dad about this today: the guardianships where the person still has rights it's because the guardianship is done out of a place of love, respect, and concern. In the case of Britney it was most likely done out of a place of wanting power, money, or both.
@OverLordJenn
@OverLordJenn 3 жыл бұрын
My dad too, before he died my mom and I shared power of attorney over him but he still had all his civil rights
@BourbonRose_
@BourbonRose_ 3 жыл бұрын
The fact that Britney's father is able to get away with this even under scrutiny and backlash, is genuinely scary for all disabled people living in the US, and just for all people in general.
@8LyJu8
@8LyJu8 3 жыл бұрын
Read about The Beach Boys' Brian Wilson and how he was publicly manipulated by dr. Landy.
@carolannestockton7638
@carolannestockton7638 3 жыл бұрын
Given that disabled people are 2-4 times more likely to be abused, and a disturbing amount of that is from family or guardians, the thought that abusers can literally set it up so that it's illegal for the victim to escape them in any way is so deeply terrifying.
@stephw6046
@stephw6046 3 жыл бұрын
This whole thing is disgusting. I personally don’t listen to Britney’s music, but what she has been through has been nothing short of hell. Poor thing is a puppet.
@Kaalokalawaia
@Kaalokalawaia 3 жыл бұрын
What I don't understand is that under a conservatorship her Dad can actually take a salary. This should be ABSOLUTELY illegal. It puts any person in danger of being exploited. All the proceeds that she earns should be put into a trust for her and all proceeds should be used for her medical care. The person in control of her assets should not make a dime of her. This rings of how in the past husbands could have their wives committed to steal their inheritance.
@thatjillgirl
@thatjillgirl 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah that confuses me too. I can understand a conservator being in charge of the person's finances. I can understand the conservator perhaps being reimbursed by the government or someone if they need to give full time care and thus can't bring in enough income to support themselves and the person they are caring for. But how on earth is it legal to draw an income from someone whose finances you have complete legal control over? And then get to dictate how much your income should be on top of that? It seems like a pretty serious flaw in the system.
@Silentgrace11
@Silentgrace11 3 жыл бұрын
Or in the instance where a salary is needed (since I’d imagine there are genuine conservatorships where caring for that person is basically a full time job) it has to be a regulated, established rate that can only be adjusted using legal pathways, proving that its necessary due to a, b, or c reason. Getting to establish your own salary, give yourself raises, etc is out of the question and unacceptable.
@Kaalokalawaia
@Kaalokalawaia 3 жыл бұрын
@@Silentgrace11 Agreed. Obviously, this is a much more complicated issue. But there should be SOME sort of oversight.
@PrettyPinkPeacock
@PrettyPinkPeacock 3 жыл бұрын
fun fact: often it was sons who were committed in order to get inheritance. Women too, but men with money and instability were a target too. There’s some great books about aslyum history out there worth reading.
@AnnekeOosterink
@AnnekeOosterink 3 жыл бұрын
@@PrettyPinkPeacock Yeah, probably mostly a woman who was married already was under full control of her husband, and unless her money was legally protected from her husband there was no way for her to keep anything from him.
@DeathThemself
@DeathThemself 3 жыл бұрын
I don't get how a man with a criminal record is allowed to care for a vulnerable person? This would (hopefully) never happen if she was say, being cared for by a nurse, why is family different?
@emilypaigeballou4869
@emilypaigeballou4869 3 жыл бұрын
Agree with you on the first point, but people who are nurses are entirely capable of abusing people. Britney's family and financial situation is fairly unique. But I promise you, there are disabled people being abused by nurses.
@dancechica
@dancechica 3 жыл бұрын
@@emilypaigeballou4869 I think what she meant is that a nurse with a criminal record would never be able to care for others
@huiyilien81
@huiyilien81 3 жыл бұрын
Lol I was your 1k like- but ikr!
@colettelee1162
@colettelee1162 3 жыл бұрын
He's also been to rehab. You know who picked him up while the paparazzi invaded their privacy? His daughter. She sure wouldn't have kept him locked up
@luxurypetscz
@luxurypetscz 3 жыл бұрын
She was a child star. Her father has made money off of her since she was 4 years old and then when she has a breakdown that's the man they choose as her guardian?! Her kids will be adults soon, hopefully they can at least get the guardianship. We don't know her mental state maybe she does need someone to take care of her finances but that someone should not be the one person who has made her a celebrity before puberty.
@EterPuralis
@EterPuralis 3 жыл бұрын
Britney's dad belongs in prison, tbh.
@camelopardalis84
@camelopardalis84 3 жыл бұрын
Yep. Normally I'm against putting people behind bars who aren't dangerously violent but here I'd be so okay with him just being punished like that.
@marilynl335
@marilynl335 3 жыл бұрын
Camelopardis - The Green Giraffe I mean, he was dangerously violent to her kids so 🤷🏼‍♀️
@camelopardalis84
@camelopardalis84 3 жыл бұрын
@@marilynl335 Yes, and he was/is violent - just not in a direct and physical way - towards Britney. So my comment really wasn't that great.
@Tara........
@Tara........ 3 жыл бұрын
That family has made money off of Britney for her entire life. That's what this guardianship is all about.
@AMVactivists
@AMVactivists 3 жыл бұрын
Well... Yea she's only had 8 years of legal independence in he whole life
@HealthyObbsession
@HealthyObbsession 3 жыл бұрын
F E but it’s the truth hopefully the more people who know the more help people like Brittney can get to get out of these toxic conservatorships The family only cares about the cash she will bring in and if she quits they’ll lock her up for no longer being useful
@morganbudreau8957
@morganbudreau8957 3 жыл бұрын
Clearly this is comparable to someone with depression being punished for a suicide attempt. You never, ever, EVER punish someone for having a mental illness or disability.
@floraposteschild4184
@floraposteschild4184 3 жыл бұрын
Well, thank heavens we have someone who knows better than her family...or the courts...or doctors -- all without having spoken to her, or having any known psychiatric training -- here to save the day.
@lilrhia
@lilrhia 3 жыл бұрын
@@floraposteschild4184 It's a youtube comment, get over it.
@ashildrtheswift3028
@ashildrtheswift3028 3 жыл бұрын
@@lilrhia Ignore that person, they've been rude in several other comments as well. They're just a low-life troll.
@seratonin7004
@seratonin7004 3 жыл бұрын
@@floraposteschild4184 there's been so much data on this topic from those in her inner circle, and that's what's now being discussed more broadly so it's not just a baseless opinion
@rebekahsquires2073
@rebekahsquires2073 3 жыл бұрын
Yes I agree
@bbbbeebbb784
@bbbbeebbb784 3 жыл бұрын
it's the fact that her own children has a restraining order against him, he gets a pay check for this, and that Britney's mother said that the conservatory that makes me very uncomfortable. How can the court allow this and I had no idea that this is what is going on in my own country.
@camelopardalis84
@camelopardalis84 3 жыл бұрын
", and that Britney's mother said that the conservatory that makes me very uncomfortable." and that Britney's mother said that the conservatory ... that makes me very uncomfortable I think there's something missing in your statement and I'd like to know what it was you were intending to write.
@jamiececilielange5249
@jamiececilielange5249 3 жыл бұрын
In Denmark, people with a mental diagnosis can not be officially 'cured / healthy', and struggle to: adopt a child, become a pilot, fireman, police officer, sailor, or au-pair. People literally loose rights if they choose to seek help and get diagnosed.
@marilynl335
@marilynl335 3 жыл бұрын
Sooo it’s basically America over there. LOL burn 😂
@jamiececilielange5249
@jamiececilielange5249 3 жыл бұрын
@@marilynl335 I think we get more help, but it is not perfect. Most people aren't even aware of this rights issue.
@AnitaSouthall
@AnitaSouthall 3 жыл бұрын
So sad #mentalhealthawareness #disabilityawareness
@Autumn1988
@Autumn1988 3 жыл бұрын
She was a pageant and show kid to make money for her poor parents. She has always been a cash cow IMHO. Also, her original soulful deeper voice was amazing. Would be great if she could find it again. I love Britney and still rooting for her
@AlexaFaie
@AlexaFaie 3 жыл бұрын
She tried to release an album with her original voice (especially because the fake one she's been doing has caused her damage!) but when the record companies found out it was going to be her real voice they refused to release it. Its pretty awful that she can't even release the music she wants to release.
@ardraimmortal09
@ardraimmortal09 3 жыл бұрын
this conservatorship mumbo jumbo feels an awful like victorian era womans rights to manage their own estate and must have some sort of male guardian to open a bank account, manage property etc. its crazy!
@alisonbarker3862
@alisonbarker3862 3 жыл бұрын
ABSOLUTELY!
@ronistitch6510
@ronistitch6510 3 жыл бұрын
This is so true
@deborahprkn
@deborahprkn 3 жыл бұрын
It's frightening when you listen to this isn't it and yes I agree very Victorian.
@PutinsMommyNeverHuggedHim
@PutinsMommyNeverHuggedHim 3 жыл бұрын
💯
@vegasgirl3538
@vegasgirl3538 3 жыл бұрын
So true
@TheLeeLee
@TheLeeLee 3 жыл бұрын
As someone who has experienced psychosis first hand, Britney's story and struggle is one that has always struck me to my core. The notion that a family member could just decide to remove my autonomy and exploit poor mental health laws is terrifying. Especially since they're the reason I am so fucked up to begin with! Thank you, I'm so happy to have found this channel.
@garnettekken
@garnettekken 6 ай бұрын
I have schizoaffective disorder and am deeply afraid of someone deciding i am not worth human rights
@unFayemous
@unFayemous 3 жыл бұрын
Remember in "the girl with the dragon tattoo" where Lizbeth basically had conservatorship placed on her and we were all appalled? This is that in real life!
@SystemofEleven
@SystemofEleven 3 жыл бұрын
My biodad threatened to do this when I accepted a marriage proposal from a guy who -- GASP -- hadn't asked his permission first. So glad my in-laws (who I now see and refer to as my adoptive parents) stepped in and stood up for me. I would not have survived this kind of situation. Would not.
@hauntedshadowslegacy2826
@hauntedshadowslegacy2826 3 жыл бұрын
Please, please, please tell me you got a restraining order or a formal disownment against that despicable creature.
@SystemofEleven
@SystemofEleven 3 жыл бұрын
@@hauntedshadowslegacy2826 I mean there are people who can't get restraining orders against people who actively threaten to physically harm them. The amount of time, money, and paperwork to probably just get rejected isn't really worth it for me. I just refuse to go to family functions that he attends, and have a ride ready to leave ASAP if he shows up.
@camelopardalis84
@camelopardalis84 3 жыл бұрын
@@SystemofEleven Do the people who attend family functions with him know what he did to you?
@SystemofEleven
@SystemofEleven 3 жыл бұрын
@@camelopardalis84 Half of them were there when he made the threat. Biomom, ever the obedient conservative housewife, blocked my exit so he could finish his tirade. I came out to some more extended family members a couple years ago about several things ranging from my orientation to my history of abuse, and their response to every point was basically, "Yeah, we already knew that". Like, they didn't have details, but apparently he regularly tries his crap with them and they just look at him like, "We're older than you. You don't have any actually power over us. No. Back off." I'm not sure it occurred to them how bad he gets when he actually //does// have power over someone, but in any case they weren't surprised. They just generally keep their mouths shut to avoid drama.
@user-ri2qn4qo4k
@user-ri2qn4qo4k 3 жыл бұрын
@@SystemofEleven I'm so sorry this happened to you. That's so terrible. ☹💔
@masterpys2693
@masterpys2693 3 жыл бұрын
This kind of ultimate power over someone's life in guardianship is a blatant human ownership to me. It's like being in prison for having disability. Having no freedom is horrible.
@kaworunagisa4009
@kaworunagisa4009 3 жыл бұрын
It's slavery more than prison tbh
@ashildrtheswift3028
@ashildrtheswift3028 3 жыл бұрын
@@kaworunagisa4009 Prison is modern day slavery.
@mcbusted1985
@mcbusted1985 3 жыл бұрын
Some people need guardians though. I support adults with learning difficulties, they can’t even count, let alone look after month. They need to have legal guardians to keep them safe. It’s only an issue when the people who have legal guardians don’t actually need them.
@overgrownkudzu
@overgrownkudzu 3 жыл бұрын
​@@mcbusted1985 That still doesn't mean that people should be legally forbidden to even talk about their conservatorship or hire a lawyer (if someone isn't able to, they won't do it, if they are, they should be allowed to).
@mcbusted1985
@mcbusted1985 3 жыл бұрын
Émile Show me where I said it should be?
@VegemiteQueen1
@VegemiteQueen1 3 жыл бұрын
Remembering the video of that guy cry-screaming 'Leave Britney alone!' really hits differently now we see where things have ended up.
@cockersplodie
@cockersplodie 3 жыл бұрын
Using this critetia, Kanye should be under conservatorship.
@jamiel6005
@jamiel6005 3 жыл бұрын
i smell misogyny. “Ah, yes, this woman is far too unstable to care for herself, she needs a male guardian to manage her finance and life. Hysterical women, am i right?”
@irondragonmaiden
@irondragonmaiden 3 жыл бұрын
Frankly, I think the Kanye thing will resolve itself by him getting very bad to the point that he hits the "became a danger to himself and/or others" and so he will be forcibly institutionalized until he at least gets under a med regime that stabilizes him
@italianspaghettisauce
@italianspaghettisauce 3 жыл бұрын
@@jamiel6005 No, I'm pretty sure it's her insane father.
@jamiel6005
@jamiel6005 3 жыл бұрын
@@italianspaghettisauce It wouldn’t be such an entrenched issue if it was. One crazy guy doesn’t suddenly get the support of the whole legal system.
@aleksstan7009
@aleksstan7009 3 жыл бұрын
@@jamiel6005 that Sounds like something that would actually happen in the 18. century where women got locked up because they were "hysterical"
@noodlepoodle3582
@noodlepoodle3582 3 жыл бұрын
The fact that there isn’t a registry of people under guardianship says everything
@audreydoyle5268
@audreydoyle5268 3 жыл бұрын
It's like this system was made to create loopholes for abusive people to take utter control of someone's entire life.
@bennyton2560
@bennyton2560 3 жыл бұрын
and they have even less rights than prisoners, dafuq?
@alexclarke4775
@alexclarke4775 2 жыл бұрын
Well said. Can't believe they'll let anybody take on so much responsibility
@autumnsirens
@autumnsirens 2 жыл бұрын
I'm a big criticism of guardianship, but why on earth would there be a national registry for something that's largely decided based on a person's health status in some way? That's incredibly invasive.
@LeBatteur
@LeBatteur 2 жыл бұрын
@@autumnsirens To keep track of who is currently bound so severely by the court, for how long, and how their guardian is functioning? Allowing a person that level of control over another person is something that requires intense monitoring by a third party (and even a fourth party) to prevent abuse.
@thekarategirl5787
@thekarategirl5787 3 жыл бұрын
If she does have "early onset dementia" she shouldn't have been "allowed" to go on tour or release albums. She should have carers and rights that every other human being should have.
@AN-bo5ej
@AN-bo5ej 3 жыл бұрын
Early onset dementia happens in your 50s or 60s. That is "early" compared to regular dementia where onset is more like at 80. "Early" doesn't mean onset is at any age lmfao so tired of seeing people throw this diagnosis around.
@user-ri2qn4qo4k
@user-ri2qn4qo4k 3 жыл бұрын
@Daisy Shayne 😀 That makes me so happy! I really hope she gets her freedom soon.
@katherinemorelle7115
@katherinemorelle7115 3 жыл бұрын
@@AN-bo5ej not to mention that even if it were possible to have early onset dementia in your 20s, we’d expect to see at least one sign of it within 12 years!
@hurricanefrid
@hurricanefrid 3 жыл бұрын
I'm not a guardian, but I work at a group home for people with neuropsychiatric and developmental disabilities, and my job is to communicate with their guardians about their economy, dentist appointments, hair dresser appointments, doctors appointments, medicine etc. My job is to do all that - and more - so that our klients can live a happy and fulfilling life and be as indepentent as possible. Denying someone their basic human rights and locking them away for months, just for buying a hamburger, ain't it.
@Kitsune1414
@Kitsune1414 3 жыл бұрын
My cousin, who is a 23 year old man, is severely mentally disabled and there is not much he can do for himself outside of what a toddler is capable of. His mother is his caretaker and makes all important decisions for him but he still, somehow, has more rights than a 30 year old woman who is fully capable of making her own choices! My cousin doesn't even need a conservatorship, I don't think anyone does, honestly.
@midorishiwa
@midorishiwa 3 жыл бұрын
Many US states will let a 15 year-old drive on their own with nothing more than a written exam and a 1-hour driving lesson. Even if Britney hasn't driven in 12 years, she could take driving lessons, maybe even take her driving license again. Teenagers haven't driven EVER and they are still trusted behind a wheel.
@minwellitsanicknamebegrate2531
@minwellitsanicknamebegrate2531 3 жыл бұрын
It shouldn’t matter if she can drive or not ..she has money and can hire transportation and even if she didn’t have loads of money there are other ways she could get around. my grandfather is blind and for many years would leave the house and go into town by cab everyday by himself it wasn’t until he was put on oxygen and that he needed someone to go with him.
@serenaj1821
@serenaj1821 3 жыл бұрын
Honestly it’s ableist but it’s also very misogynistic. If any similarly able bodied famous man were put into someone else’s control like this the courts wouldn’t hesitate to free him. This makes you realize how easy it is for even powerful women to be seen as “incompetent” for even the suggestion of mental impairment, meanwhile a comparable man would be (and often is) seen as “eccentric”.
@crazycatlady2744
@crazycatlady2744 3 жыл бұрын
You mean like Brian Wilson of the Beach Boys?
@WarriorKalia
@WarriorKalia 3 жыл бұрын
You mean like no one's talking about how crazy Elon Musk is?
@polina-rs4lr
@polina-rs4lr 3 жыл бұрын
yeah Kanye West is clearly more unstable than her right now
@ivankacollado2445
@ivankacollado2445 3 жыл бұрын
Like Kanye
@phoenixu7890
@phoenixu7890 3 жыл бұрын
look at kanye west
@verdatum
@verdatum 3 жыл бұрын
I wonder about Amanda Bynes too. She's reportedly being released from conservatorship this month. That girl has been through a ton.
@tavab8539
@tavab8539 3 жыл бұрын
During the documentary released in Feburary, the lawyer who Britney attempted to use during the beginning of the conservatorship said that during their meetings before the case Britney said she'd accept the temporary conservatorship as long as it wasn't her father controling it, practically begged for it not to be her father controlling it back then. They were not told til they got to the court date that she was not allowed to choose her own lawyer even pre-conservatorship which is also so suspicious
@irtap404
@irtap404 3 жыл бұрын
But where is the psychologist/neurologist/doctor that has to say what is the extent of her disability and what help she needs?? No judge or relative should do that! It's insane.
@seaborgium919
@seaborgium919 3 жыл бұрын
The point on this: yeah we should be looking to doctors to make this judgement, and review them, and get second opinions. But we rely on judges with legal experience but nothing else. This is a huge problem in the states. I don't know about anywhere else. But we don't rely on the right people
@Arlothed1no
@Arlothed1no 3 жыл бұрын
Not only insane but wildly unethical on multiple fronts
@smokee1325
@smokee1325 3 жыл бұрын
I’d assume the judge makes this decision with advice from a doctor as witness, but you never know in some of these situations...
@irtap404
@irtap404 3 жыл бұрын
@@seaborgium919 thing is, she got very convenient diagnose of dementia, which is degenerative (gets worse) and non-reversible. A transitory psychotic episode for example might have required periodic assessment. Dementia is definitive. But the system should have never allowed that to happen on the first place, there should be many evaluations across years. I'm afraid yes, sounds like it's corrupt and can be used to some people's benefit.
@Palitato
@Palitato 3 жыл бұрын
Under HIPAA laws, a doctor isn't legally allowed to discuss someone's medical history, without express consent given by the person being treated.And Britney isn't allowed to consent to anything without her FATHER'S consent, which if she isn't actually unstable, he obviously wouldn't give. And even a doctor he tries to pay off would likely not accept, as it would mean losing his license to practice and possible jail time if it ever came out that Britney HAD NOT consented to that doctor speaking to her medical history. Basically- Britney's Real Doctor: Get's permission from Britney to speak on her medical history. Father denies this permission and forbids the doctor from speaking. If the Doctor speaks out, they are in violation of HIPAA law, as the Father didn't consent to the information being revealed, Doctor loses his license and gets arrested. Fake Doctor: Gets paid by Father to lie about Britney's mental state and abilities. Britney herself never consents to this doctor speaking about her medical history. Even though the father gave his consent- his consent is only permission for BRITNEY HERSELF to consent. He cannot consent to releasing her medical history on her behalf. If Britney reveals she did not consent to the medical information being released, Doctor is in violation of HIPAA, etc etc, can no longer practice medicine. HIPAA is taken VERY seriously- peoples medical histories are one of the most protected things about them in the US. Basically the most any other doctor could do would be speculate from the outside about Britney's stability and ability to function. The moment they actually speak to her and ask her any questions about her mental health, that conversation is protected by HIPAA.
@alicialingle179
@alicialingle179 3 жыл бұрын
The US is not one country, it's 50 countries in a trenchcoat. That's why our laws vary from state to state
@mistressdante1824
@mistressdante1824 3 жыл бұрын
Somebody finally phrased it right!
@alicialingle179
@alicialingle179 3 жыл бұрын
@@mistressdante1824 would that I could say I came up with the phrasing myself. I read it on Tumblr
@Marco_Onyxheart
@Marco_Onyxheart 3 жыл бұрын
I need to remember that phrasing.
@rebekahsquires2073
@rebekahsquires2073 3 жыл бұрын
Yes so true!
@Orynae
@Orynae 3 жыл бұрын
The military is certainly big enough for 50 countries 🤦
@Kirsten_is_cursed10
@Kirsten_is_cursed10 3 жыл бұрын
The lyrics to “Toxic” are now hitting me quite differently...
@cheesecakelasagna
@cheesecakelasagna 3 жыл бұрын
"Slave For You" too
@carolinemcgovern4488
@carolinemcgovern4488 3 жыл бұрын
And Overprotected.
@deborahprkn
@deborahprkn 3 жыл бұрын
I am a slave to you, Baby hit me one more time? 🤔Or have I got the lyrics wrong I am not a Britney expert..
@LawNerdAmber
@LawNerdAmber 3 жыл бұрын
Also Lucky
@CryFry
@CryFry 3 жыл бұрын
If she’s “well enough” to perform giant performances, she “well enough” to live her own life unimpeded.
@danebirbhaha7520
@danebirbhaha7520 3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely we must save Britney, even if she has a disability she's still human and deserves rights like any other person, her father is abusing her for doing this
@seratonin7004
@seratonin7004 3 жыл бұрын
@@yttrxstein4192 and how do you propose the average person do so?
@pepebabushki9376
@pepebabushki9376 3 жыл бұрын
@@yttrxstein4192 how idiotic... Thats not how it works. The law is actively stopping her from being saved. It's sick, and not as simple as you seem to think.
@bifurioussiren
@bifurioussiren 3 жыл бұрын
@@yttrxstein4192 so no one's allowed to be vocal about problems they can't directly solve all by themselves? Being vocal about something can raise awareness and get the right people who can do something on the job. Staying silent in the face of injustice does literally nothing and is much worse. Yes, more can be done than just talking about it, but you're also allowed to express your opinion about a serious topic that you're passionate about even if you aren't sure how to help.
@bifurioussiren
@bifurioussiren 3 жыл бұрын
@@yttrxstein4192 Ok? Never said you couldn't comment, man. You were mocking someone for "impotently whining" as you said. And I told you my opinion on it. So you're going to tell me to "stop that" right before saying we can both say whatever we want? Yeah, I agee. That's why I commented.
@bifurioussiren
@bifurioussiren 3 жыл бұрын
@@yttrxstein4192 lol ok. I don't need your permission. just thought you were being unnecessarily rude to a stranger online because they wrote a comment about an issue they cared about. Why waste your time? No offense meant man but don't you have something better to do? sure, you could say the same thing about me, but you were rude first so I just felt like chiming in. have a good day (:
@laurenconrad1799
@laurenconrad1799 3 жыл бұрын
I feel like conservatorship would exacerbate a mental health problem, not ease it. Like, you want to put person with mental health problems even more on edge? Take away their freedoms.
@marionsiempre7417
@marionsiempre7417 3 жыл бұрын
Totally!!!!
@bennyton2560
@bennyton2560 3 жыл бұрын
I have bad anxiety disorder but if I can't get a coffee, guarantee I'll be even worse off!
@Megan-zv1fo
@Megan-zv1fo 3 жыл бұрын
I just watched the New York Times documentary on this topic and I just wanted to say while I do not condone driving with a baby on her lap, she was chased into the car by paparazzi who were banging on her windows. She just wanted to get away from them.
@bekima4429
@bekima4429 3 жыл бұрын
I may not care much about Britney, but this sounds absolutely horrifying- worse than any horror film.
@lilyoh5780
@lilyoh5780 3 жыл бұрын
"by middle aged men" loved that part so much
@LesNewell
@LesNewell 3 жыл бұрын
Ouch. I'm a middle aged man with power of attorney for my mother. I try hard to make the best decisions I can on her behalf. I have once had to make a decision against her will but it was to ensure her safety and well being. I hope I never have to do that again. While technically I am allowed to charge for my services in my opinion that's just not something you do to a family member.
@cheesecakelasagna
@cheesecakelasagna 3 жыл бұрын
LesNewell I wish your mother (and you) the best. I hope you make her life from then on worthwhile.
@dangeki5902
@dangeki5902 3 жыл бұрын
@@LesNewell dont worry you're a good middle-aged man keep being awesome :)
@gingerluigiwithnomoustache7411
@gingerluigiwithnomoustache7411 3 жыл бұрын
LesNewell keep being a king and know the middle aged drag wasn’t meant for you or any particular man
@nightbird316
@nightbird316 3 жыл бұрын
I genuinely feel bad for Britney I went through a similar thing where I had a major breakdown where I was unable to look after myself temporarily. I had spent all my money, owed the bank money, was dangerous to myself, etc. My parents took control of my bank and other elements of my life BUT the difference to what's going on with Britney is that my parents steadily gave me control back as I got better. When I was in recovery they started by allowing me to manage my own food, then going out, steadily increasing my allowance until I had complete control over my bank again. That's how the system is meant to work but it's true that far too many times that it's easy for people to corrupt for their own gain. I was really lucky my parents wanted the best for me and to support me to get better. But I genuinely worry for others who are now in a more stable place but can't get control of their lives back because of legal loopholes.
@prlegal411
@prlegal411 3 жыл бұрын
I wish you all of the best and hope things continue to get and stay better for you. 💕🌸
@squoosetiel
@squoosetiel 3 жыл бұрын
The fact that she can go on tour should in and of itself prove she doesn't need a conservatorship, let alone one this severe
@renoloverxoxo
@renoloverxoxo 3 жыл бұрын
I feel like Britney is our generation's Rosemary Kennedy.
@MellowJelly
@MellowJelly 3 жыл бұрын
True. we need to save her :(((
@linnycrocus6023
@linnycrocus6023 3 жыл бұрын
Oh god. Reading this broke my heart. This is so fucked up.
@adriennedoyle4482
@adriennedoyle4482 3 жыл бұрын
That's a good comparison, and it's a good thing lobotomies aren't done today.
@renoloverxoxo
@renoloverxoxo 3 жыл бұрын
@@adriennedoyle4482 my great grandmother was lobotomized. She died young of cervical cancer because she (understandably) was terrified of going to the doctor.
@fionafiona1146
@fionafiona1146 3 жыл бұрын
@@adriennedoyle4482 Drugs are reversible but hardly better.
@londonlady5520
@londonlady5520 3 жыл бұрын
I’m horrified and furious about this situation. If she’s able to earn millions every year, she’s capable of paying a good accountant to manage it and spending it as she damn well chooses. She’s been held captive and exploited in plain sight for so long now.
@SevCaswell
@SevCaswell 3 жыл бұрын
This does not surprise me in the slightest. In a country that legalised slavery the fact that you can legally make someone sub-human is not at all shocking. And yes, all prisoners are legally considered slaves.
@Kaalokalawaia
@Kaalokalawaia 3 жыл бұрын
The fact that they work to make license plates and other odd jobs for almost no money makes this very accurate.
@SevCaswell
@SevCaswell 3 жыл бұрын
@@Kaalokalawaia and they are not allowed to refuse to do the work, plus it is even called slavery in the legislation that made it law.
@iliveonatropicalisland6086
@iliveonatropicalisland6086 3 жыл бұрын
@@Kaalokalawaia ok wow wtf is up with your prison system
@seratonin7004
@seratonin7004 3 жыл бұрын
A form of this exists in every country as I understand it, though sometimes by different names. I'm struggling with in Australia under Power of Attorney.
@SevCaswell
@SevCaswell 3 жыл бұрын
@@iliveonatropicalisland6086 the american prison system is a for profit system that pays judges with insentives to convict and harshly sentence even minor offences.
@0Lottee0
@0Lottee0 3 жыл бұрын
If I was judged based solely on my worst meltdown I'd come out looking pretty bad. At one point after going through periods of heavy disassociation and anxiety attacks basically any time I left my house I thought it would be a good choice to set my hair on fire ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ luckily I did not, but my fiance had to talk me out from under the kitchen table where I was hunkered down convinced my childhood abuser had somehow tracked me down. Two years later and I haven't had an episode in like a year and a half and I went through group therapy and am with a therapist I like a lot. If I was to be judged on the whole of these last two years that breakdown, while awful, was only one part of my life and the progress I've made since then. I think Britney has been used as a cash-cow by her father since she was a child and that man will do anything possible to keep her from having autonomy over her life.
@jimpachi98
@jimpachi98 3 жыл бұрын
The internet owes an apology to that "leave Britney alone" guy
@HOHNancy
@HOHNancy 2 жыл бұрын
I remember him.
@teoriasdeloabsurdo
@teoriasdeloabsurdo 3 жыл бұрын
I feel that there's also a gender issue here. Many (MANY) male artists have had huge breakdowns and they weren't treated like children because of that. But, of course, women must always behave properly, lest they be considered 'crazy' or 'unstable' (sorry for using these words). P.S. Of course this is a complex issue, but I felt that gender may also be a factor taking part in it. By no means do I think being 'unstable' is inherently bad, nor do I believe the only reason for this is Britney being a woman.
@rebekahsquires2073
@rebekahsquires2073 3 жыл бұрын
Seems like it to me too
@wmdkitty
@wmdkitty 3 жыл бұрын
~cough~KANYE~cough~
@missnoneofyourbusiness
@missnoneofyourbusiness 3 жыл бұрын
@@wmdkitty EXACTLY!!!! This is happening at the very same time than the Kanye thing but Kanye is free and trying to run a political career.
@cheesecakelasagna
@cheesecakelasagna 3 жыл бұрын
miye Kanye has a lot of yes men in his life, it's scary.
@juicyparsons
@juicyparsons 3 жыл бұрын
definitely the fact that her Mom disagrees with it, and the conservatorship is restricting her right to give birth is some patriarchal MESS
@laurenconrad1799
@laurenconrad1799 3 жыл бұрын
"She can't drive." In the age of Uber and Lyft and Via and a million other such services. (I also don't drive. I live in New York. So I don't have to. lol)
@ronistitch6510
@ronistitch6510 3 жыл бұрын
Im always asked if im going to start driving (im 27) and i have a file on my phone that compairs the price of a convered car that i would be physacally able to drive + ensurance and all of the stuff that comes with car ownership with how much i spend a year on buss passes and the odd taxi and the fact is the buss to and from work is my alone time
@laurenconrad1799
@laurenconrad1799 3 жыл бұрын
Roni stitch I’m 27 too. My dad pays for a lot of stuff for me (his choice; it’s a long story) and he was super relieved that he wouldn’t be paying car insurance for me. Lol
@ronistitch6510
@ronistitch6510 3 жыл бұрын
@@laurenconrad1799 ensurance is crazy expecnive , add in a life long illness to spice it up and its just not worth driving
@aerongrimm3162
@aerongrimm3162 3 жыл бұрын
I'm 27 and my disabilities would make it SUPER dangerous for me to drive. Guess what? I. CAN. STILL. TAKE. CARE. OF. MYSELF. Humans are fucking unbelievable
@TherealDanielleNelson
@TherealDanielleNelson 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly. I can't get my license due to my disability and I take the bus everywhere or ride my bike. My friends who drive told me that they're jealous because I do know how to take the bus.
@Aster_Risk
@Aster_Risk 3 жыл бұрын
This is sad and scary to me as a person in general, but even more so as a person with a mental illness. I've always been terrified of having a breakdown so bad I'm no longer allowed to have my own autonomy. The chances of that happening to me are probably not that high, but just imagining what Brittney goes through is awful.
@jeremyzimmerman6968
@jeremyzimmerman6968 3 жыл бұрын
What I find so crazy is that in many states Brittany would have never even been considered for a "Conservatorship". I've worked a lot with adults with disabilities in Pennsylvania where I live and there is almost never a Guardianship granted, the criteria are simply too high you literally have to be labelled as "incapacitated." Additionally the person must be given preference in choosing the guardian (they also can't stand to benefit from a will so it's rarely a family member) It also can't be a "business" only non-profits and individuals are usually granted them. (Obviously law and reality are different) But most importantly it just like almost never happens. More likely than not people are placed in a Power of Attorney position. It's appalling to hear about the vast number if situations across the US and the widespread abuse.
@LPNeogetz
@LPNeogetz 3 жыл бұрын
Britney's situation breaks my heart.she is so abused just because of mental health problems that just need assistance not this total removal of her rights as a person. It also terrifies me,that here we have a huge public figure treated like this, so what chance do any other people have. The system is so badly stacked against people with disabilities and mental health problems. Especially mental health seems to remove your basic rights potentially forever.
@aglaves4922
@aglaves4922 3 жыл бұрын
Her disability is being used as a technicality; the reality is she's being controlled for her money and because she's a woman.
@terestand
@terestand 3 жыл бұрын
As an attorney in the states, I just wanted to say in most states a conservatorship deals with the financial assets of a person and a guardianship deals with the person. Although a conservatorship can be extremely limiting as it robs the person of financial resources, it cannot force unwanted medical care or imprisonment on a person the way a guardianship has the power to do. A conservator can financially blackmail a person in unwanted situations. Often time a conservatorship is much easier to obtain. In my practice I have seen some real abuses of the conservatorship law. Thanks for making this video!
@rebekahsquires2073
@rebekahsquires2073 3 жыл бұрын
Can any one person hold both? What about living power of attorneys? Would those come up in these situations?
@terestand
@terestand 3 жыл бұрын
Rebekah Squires Yes you can file for both at the same time. That is often what happens which makes separating the two harder. The Court can even choose to grant one and not the other. Usually a conservatorship is granted rather than guardianship as burden of proof is lower. I had a case were the person demonstrated a lack of ability to understand math and the running of the rental properties her deceased husband left her, but she was still taking care of her personal self and therefore a conservatorship was granted but a guardianship was denied. A power of attorney can be a great tool as it can be narrowly tailored to the needs of the person. Generally a guardianship will void any power of attorney dealing with medical or personal matters and a conservatorship will void any power of attorney having to do with fiscal matters. Neither will void a will made before being declared incompetent. In my state, a person holding a power of attorney is given precedence under the law when the court appoints a guardian or conservator. Also in my state, the alleged incapacitated person must be represented by an independent attorney paid by the state before anything can happen. Each state has different rules.
@rebekahsquires2073
@rebekahsquires2073 3 жыл бұрын
terestand that’s interesting thanks so much for the information.
@PutinsMommyNeverHuggedHim
@PutinsMommyNeverHuggedHim 3 жыл бұрын
terestand I have a question. How can there be a gag order against Britney speaking out about her guardianship/conservatorship? Isn’t that violating free speech?
@terestand
@terestand 3 жыл бұрын
Elena, #1 Bernie Bro I don’t practice in California. Everything I am about to say is generally applicable, but each state is free to make laws contradicting. Both conservatorships and guardianships are limits on your fundamental rights. It is well established that if there is a compelling state interest the government can abridge your freedoms. The normal example is yelling fire in a theater is illegal. Generally conservatorship and guardianships are sealed proceedings. Meaning no one can access the file or discuss details of the case outside the court unless ordered by the court or necessary for the progression of the case. This is seen as protecting the privacy of the individual being protected. Generally even with a sealed case the protected person and the guardian/conservatory are allowed to talk about the case just not any other party or the court. Under a guardianship the guardian can restrict access to the protected person and in doing so effectively limit their speech. Under a conservatorship I could see a lawyer making the argument that if she was allowed to speak freely she could say something that might damage her brand and earning opportunities and therefore she should be barred from making any public statements without approval. Without seeing the case file and reading the actual orders in place, I can’t say for certain what restrictions are in place and the court’s reasoning.
@jordonrowe6484
@jordonrowe6484 3 жыл бұрын
Also, after the judge issued the investigation, Britney’s doctor was first up to give his report. He died days before he was set to deliver it to the courts. Since his sudden death, there has been no update on any other findings..... amuck.
@ittybittykittypi6565
@ittybittykittypi6565 3 жыл бұрын
I highly recommend watching the "Guardians, Inc" episode of Dirty Money on Netflix. It is absolutely heartbreaking to see the level of organised exploitation being facilitated by the corrupt and broken guardianship / conservatorship system.
@lifewcockapooz8103
@lifewcockapooz8103 3 жыл бұрын
OMG Im autistic with depression and anxiety and this sounds terrifying to me. Because of my experiences with ptsd and no one believing me when I say I can't do stuff I intend to make the law change, and finding out that they can have the power to take all my ability just to say that is terrifying, let alone my chances of actually getting people to listen, believe me, and then actually change it. Thank you for talking about this. I didn't know about it (and though I'm really scared now) it's good that I know. We love you Jessica!
@tsulehisanvhisystem9352
@tsulehisanvhisystem9352 3 жыл бұрын
I'm afraid for my little brother who lives with similar conditions. Our mother is currently his power of attorney and makes decisions he can't with input from him.
@azuregriffin1116
@azuregriffin1116 3 жыл бұрын
I'm a very non-expressive autistic individual. I'm otherwise "high-functioning" (of course, the exact level of 'functioning' can vary based on the day) and I can take care of myself fairly well. Still, the 'mood monitoring' thing just... damn.
@fraserking4747
@fraserking4747 3 жыл бұрын
God I do not envy Britney at all. Regardless of what her mental health is like at a baseline, going through the things she did would take a massive toll on anybody. One of my worst fears is losing agency and control over my own decisions, so my heart absolutely goes out to her. She’s effectively a prisoner in her own home, with a conservator who clearly doesn’t have her interests at heart. I’m very glad you brought this up, Jessica. Mental health is such an important subject, and while she’s obviously a celebrity, she’s still human. She still has to struggle with mental health issues like the rest of us, and it’s unfair that she’s mocked and demonised as she has been. #FreeBritney
@mariebourgot4949
@mariebourgot4949 3 жыл бұрын
@@frijofrojsdeern9545 Just wanted to say that this comparison "get taken food away from them like children" is a pb because children shouldn't be treated like either.
@oliviavanallen9935
@oliviavanallen9935 3 жыл бұрын
Frijo Frojsdeern Okay, you’re disgusting to even say that medication is worse than rape, etc. I definently don’t feel bad for you. 🤮
@birdsareasocialconstruct5083
@birdsareasocialconstruct5083 3 жыл бұрын
@@oliviavanallen9935 okay, let me get this straight you ONLY dont feel bad for tvis person because she said something you disagree with?
@GeneralNuisance00
@GeneralNuisance00 3 жыл бұрын
@@frijofrojsdeern9545 That comparison of medications to rape is disgusting and minimizes rape.
@moredogsplease5584
@moredogsplease5584 3 жыл бұрын
I always wondered how, if she’s able to hold down a job, have this amazing career, do a residency in Vegas...why is she still under this conservatorship? I’m not saying for sure there’s shady business, but all the money people are making off of her, the courts should take it into account and seriously consider whether or not they are infringing upon her basic human rights.
@Tinyvalkyrie410
@Tinyvalkyrie410 3 жыл бұрын
I super lucked out when I had my “mental break,” in that the psych hospital I was at was run super ethically and had doctors and staff that were kind, empathetic and not condescending. I felt way more humanized in the hospital than I did in my life leading up to everything falling apart, and I decided to stay longer because of how much progress I was making. I felt so much more emotionally safe there than in the care of friends and family at the time. I have literally never heard of anyone else having a similarly positive experience. As for weird legal shenanigans, my dad was recently redoing his will and trust, and realized in the paperwork it said his children could not inherit if they are disabled. It just said disabled, no clarification of severity or category. I have a significant physical disability, but in every way I am capable of handling my own affairs. Needless to say he was horrified and immediately had that corrected. I mention this because I expect this language is standard in all wills and trusts. He never would have requested that language himself. When you or a family member are producing this kind of document, make sure they have carefully read and removed all such language. I can’t imagine what would have happened if he had died before fixing this. I could have literally lost my home.
@SLYKM
@SLYKM 3 жыл бұрын
Why is this decided by a judge and not a doctor? 🤔 Or at least with oversight of an actual doctor.
@jules5215
@jules5215 3 жыл бұрын
There are I believe drs usually involved during but a judge decides on the overall. Lawyers and doctors oversee throughout I think
@itsjjallday
@itsjjallday 3 жыл бұрын
Daddy must approve the doctors, I'm sure.
@steenystuff1075
@steenystuff1075 3 жыл бұрын
Doctors have no more real understanding of mental illness than anyone else. It's all guesswork, as I discovered with my own daughter. They're idiots with a title won via an academic degree. All bollox. Poor Britney.
@katherinemorelle7115
@katherinemorelle7115 3 жыл бұрын
@@steenystuff1075 but I’m sure most doctors could easily recognise the fact that Britney does not have dementia. The problem is that it’s not that difficult to pay off a doctor to say whatever you want- like the one who lied and said she had early onset dementia.
@freyacrooke4008
@freyacrooke4008 3 жыл бұрын
This sounds like the most bizarre thing-like all of those rules are so weird
@TheLucyblades
@TheLucyblades 3 жыл бұрын
This was a great video. During the time of the publicity of Britney's breakdown, I was sayiing over and over again that she needs help and it's awful to mock her at this time, and literally no one responded positively to it. Everyone just laughed or joked about it. I was genuinely worried about her. Child stars often struggle and I'm not particularly a fan of hers but she is a human. Anyone who has read/seen the Girl with the Dragon Tattoo series knows about legal guardianship - it can be a joke. Free Britney is as important as Free Kesha.
@lynnebarnes3840
@lynnebarnes3840 3 жыл бұрын
If Brittany was not a money making machine, I wonder if her father would be in the slightest bit interested.
@christinahernandez7473
@christinahernandez7473 3 жыл бұрын
I can't imagine how many disabled people aren't speaking up due to this kind of treatment.
@cheesecakelasagna
@cheesecakelasagna 3 жыл бұрын
Most of the time they're being scared to submission and threat of jail.
@kellyotoole8885
@kellyotoole8885 3 жыл бұрын
I'm disabled and my mom and sister have gardenship of me but if I go to court or find someone to marry in Cort they sign I sgin they would lose the over the person part of the gardenship over me I would have to go to court for financial to get that
@charlotte7356
@charlotte7356 3 жыл бұрын
This reminds me of the Eugene Landy situation with Brian Wilson of the Beach Boys. He took advantage of Brian’s mental health struggles and abused his finances and over medicated Brian.
@dubudubudan
@dubudubudan 3 жыл бұрын
poor brian, first his father, then that user
@charlotte7356
@charlotte7356 3 жыл бұрын
absolutely, I’m so glad he’s still with us and sharing his music 💛
@natirasohumana
@natirasohumana 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, it's very similar. Brian even developed an illness due to the antipsychotics overmedication.
@mofymorf
@mofymorf 3 жыл бұрын
Her song "I'm a slave for you" is getting new meanings now, not sexy ones
@alexandraestrella71
@alexandraestrella71 3 жыл бұрын
I have to say: thank you so much. You promote empathy like no one I ever saw. Having an invisible condition, I always search for people that have similar issues but they mostly depress me and make me wanna jump from a bridge. And you say things that bring awareness of vulnerability by being vulnerable. You are a ray of sunshine. Thank you
@ishauni_x
@ishauni_x 3 жыл бұрын
Potential trigger warning: I've always been worried for Britney. This poor girl has had people controlling her life since she was a child and her 2007 "break down" is a prime example of what Hollywood/celeb status can do to someone. It kind of reminds me of Michael Jackson and how everybody controlled his life as well. I don't think she's make it out alive.. She won't die a natural death.
@nathatleue
@nathatleue 3 жыл бұрын
it reminded me of how princess diana died in a car accident from the paparazzi chasing her:(
@lsuchik93
@lsuchik93 3 жыл бұрын
I don’t think she will either. I hate it for her. Imagine being almost 40 and having had zero control over your life. If she wants to sell everything and go live on a mountain in another country I say go for it.
@ca-ke9493
@ca-ke9493 3 жыл бұрын
@@lsuchik93 she cant even legally do that...
@lsuchik93
@lsuchik93 3 жыл бұрын
ca-ke I meant hypothetically lol not right now. But she did petition to have her conservatorship reviewed again
@evermeet4891
@evermeet4891 3 жыл бұрын
TW: trauma connected with medical personnel A few years ago I worked for an abusive man who liked to scream at me for "not doing my job" or not doing it properly, especially when I was reading a book or doing crosswords during the time when there were no clients. I was never very healthy in the mental health department. The year prior I was hospitalised for a suicide attempt, so I still had some leftover problems to work through. I am very prone to dissociation, so when I finally broke and went into a non-responsive, the worst dissociative episode of my life because he screamed at me one too many times the ambulance was called. When they arrived, they treated me like an animal. Mocked me, searched me for drugs, accused me of doing this for attention, openly laughed at me when I couldn't respond. Berated me during the drive to the hospital. I'm not scared of medical workers in general, but ambulance staff always terrifies me and since that moment when I had an emergency I never called an ambulance, preferring to call a cab or ask a friend. They genuinely cause me to have a panic attack.
@jasminejellythe3rd513
@jasminejellythe3rd513 3 жыл бұрын
I’m sorry to hear that happened to you
@evermeet4891
@evermeet4891 3 жыл бұрын
It was honestly the most humiliating experience in my life. Medical staff tends to treat you like garbage if your illness is not noticeable, but then it treats visibly disabled people like trash too. It can be discouraging to look for help when it is that way
@mcwjes
@mcwjes 3 жыл бұрын
I don't know how to feel about ambulance workers. I found a woman throwing up blood when my mom and I were on a walk years ago. We sat her down and got her some water. I asked her if she wanted an ambulance and she was hesitant to say yes, but clearly she needed medical help. My mom talked with her while I called. The responders didn't take her seriously. They said she's homeless and just using services for a bed at night. But it was morning and I saw bloody vomit. She needed help. The job they chose is to help, not judge her circumstances. I understand empathy burn out, but now I wonder if some don't just take the job for a bit of a power trip.
@flexcapazitor1940
@flexcapazitor1940 3 жыл бұрын
That sounds horrible. I’m sorry you had to go through that. I’ve seen similar things, and worse. I hope things change to make people and medical professionals, more accountable and compassionate.
@evermeet4891
@evermeet4891 3 жыл бұрын
My dad has chronic back pain. It doesn't get too bad often, but one time he was literally howling from pain. We called an ambulance to transport him so that he could get the treatment he needed. Unsurprisingly, ambulance workers didn't treat it seriously, they told him TO STAND UP and at the end when he was literally crying from pain he just got a painkiller shot that did fuckall and they pissed off, didn't even take him for an evaluation. My cousin who is a nurse got him anti-inflammatory shots and he was so much better after that. If they bothered to take him there he would get them instantly, but apparently they like to specialize in dehumanizing people.
@powerpuff4ever
@powerpuff4ever 3 жыл бұрын
Her situation combined with the clearly lacking record keeping of guardianship cases already made me think this was an easy system for people to manipulate but this video with the examples you’ve collected really showed me how possible abuse is within it. The amount of things people can be potentially institutionalized for cuts so far into human rights and autonomy, it should be unacceptable. She can’t even look at how _HER_ money is being spent
@guytorie
@guytorie 3 жыл бұрын
This is horrifying. We must save her.
@emmacat3202
@emmacat3202 3 жыл бұрын
Sadly, this happens to disabled people in the U.S. who are able to be independent, with just a little help. Conservatorships have so much corruption, and they seem to be causing more harm than good.
@camelopardalis84
@camelopardalis84 3 жыл бұрын
There need to be people who are in charge of other people's finances and personal decisions (only in cases where this is necessary, of course, and only to the degree this is necessary) who don't benefit from it financially apart from being paid for the actual work they do. It cannot be a lucrative thing apart from it being your normal job to for example support maybe four rather mildly mentally disabled people in their everyday life if this, in fact, leads to that much work. It's an important task to help someone live as independently as possible. And there should be oversight to make sure that people don't help others more than necessary just so they can make more money. No nonsense like "helping" someone for four hours if the actual help they need only keeps you busy for 25 minutes. (I know that social workers working in certain areas tend to way more "help" than necessary so they don't risk losing their cushy job ...) I think it would be absolutely correct if I could earn a living assisting four (mentally) disabled people for about six to ten hours each week with things they actually need help with. Sometimes more, sometimes less help depending on what these people happen to need that week. And since I'd be ready to help each of them ten hours a week, I think I should be paid full-time. But officially, with a set salary that isn't affected by the wealth of the people I assist.
@justinemattson3372
@justinemattson3372 3 жыл бұрын
I just can’t deal with the fact that they’re using this power over here to stop her from being with her children
@prlegal411
@prlegal411 3 жыл бұрын
I don’t know if anyone has ever seen the VH1 series “Behind the Music”. Their episode about Britney was heartbreaking to watch. From day one she has been her parents meal ticket. They were in constant financial trouble when Britney and her siblings were young. The second her parents realized she had talent she was their instant paycheck. Her parents worked as her managers to make sure they always got their 10%. After her mental issues in 2008 it seems her mom backed off a little bit, trying to get her child help and so on. But her father oh, to this day he still wants his money. Jamie wants the control and the cash and that’s it. That’s why she’s still working. So the money is coming in to benefit the people around Britney. Not Britney herself.
@quinns9295
@quinns9295 3 жыл бұрын
She's also white. So the fact that she has class privilege, white privilege, cultural notoriety (and thus fans), and she's still in this situation? Absolutely terrifying.
@LenaFerrari
@LenaFerrari 3 жыл бұрын
It's funny, I've never thought about my bipolar disorder as a disability, even though it has limited my life a lot for years, and I depend on aids (medication in my case) to live functionally. Makes sense It's actually good to put it in that light, because it emphasize how this is not me being lazy and coming up with excuses, but something real
@Syurtpiutha
@Syurtpiutha 3 жыл бұрын
Been in the 'I'm just lazy, not disabled'-mentality for a large portion of my life. Almost getting a burnout trying to keep up with my peers forced me to reassess a lot. Just because other people don't see the work you do in your head doesn't mean it isn't exhausting. I hope you are kind to yourself in that regard.
@seaborgium919
@seaborgium919 3 жыл бұрын
My parents refuse to accept my ADHD diagnosis. They'd rather me be lazy than disabled. Group hugs
@Silvercentipede
@Silvercentipede 3 жыл бұрын
❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️ it can be hard to admit to, because I always felt like other people had things so much worse than me and that I was just using it as an excuse and wasn't trying hard enough, I know exactly where you are coming from ❤️❤️❤️ it's a different condition to your situation but I completely resonate with what you are saying ❤️❤️❤️
@HasabeMizurukara
@HasabeMizurukara 3 жыл бұрын
I've always thought of my bipolar disorder as a disability because it impairs my life at random, even if meds help 90% of the time. You are def not lazy or making excuses because we struggle with things not everyone has to.
@LS-vq2or
@LS-vq2or 3 жыл бұрын
Being told by my psychiatrist that my cyclothymia (bipolar type 3) was making me disabled, helped me a lot too. Like, no I'm not a failure because I can't be as productive, and participate to society the way non mentally ill/physically disabled persons, I'm just walking at my own pace, and that is ok. We always think about people who are physically paralyzed when we think "disability", but mental illnesses can paralyze you just as much.
@baked_alaska
@baked_alaska 3 жыл бұрын
Britney's struggle is something I relate to on a personal level. While my experience was nowhere near as cripplingly limited, I know what it feels like to be restricted by a conservatorship. When I was a child, I was statemented, which basically means I was under a child psychologist and monitored periodically as they tried to figure out what was going on with my mental health. It was very laid back and relaxed monitoring, not clinical, and it didn't really affect my life until much later. After 11 years, from the age of 5 to the age of 16, my monitoring ended with inconclusive results and, as a result, no extra steps were taken. I didn't find out that my mother's guardianship of me stretched past my 18th birthday, as I was a legal adult and supposed to be in control of my own finances. Against my own wishes, my mother had full control over grants and scholarship awards and bursaries linked with my education, my bank account and my legal rights. As a result, I was unable to make any decisions myself and I never saw any of my money. What made it worse was that nobody ever made me aware of any of this and it wasn't until I was made redundant from my job when I was 19 and ended up having to sign up for government support that I learned just how much power my mother had over my life. I wasn't legally allowed to talk to the Department of Work and Pensions directly, as my mother was listed as appointee. I brought this to her attention and she was pretty much forced to admit that I had been under a conservatorship and that she hadn't wanted that knowledge to affect my life and had opted not to tell me anything. All of the money I had brought in from my bursaries and grants had been redirected to my mother's personal account and had been spent on educational necessities, which I had never known before because I hadn't been the one signing up for them. I was lucky in the fact that, after I was properly diagnosed with Bipolar Disorder the following year and was stabilised properly with therapy and medication, I was allowed by my mother to have the conservatorship ended and we had to meet with solicitors and go to court to prove me capable of running my own life. I had my conservatorship officially closed just before my 21st birthday. One thing that has always annoyed me about the British government though is how slow they are to pick up on changes because, even now when I have to speak to the DWP, they will occasionally ask me if my appointee" is available to speak to them on my behalf and I have to e-mail a new copy of the letter pertaining to the results of my conservatorship dissolution as proof that I am in control of my own person and need no assistance. 😖
@johnradclyffehall
@johnradclyffehall 3 жыл бұрын
Solidarity. That sounds absolutely infuriating.
@shalacarter6658
@shalacarter6658 3 жыл бұрын
I am glad that this all worked out in the end. You are clearly a very intelligent, well-spoken woman. I was wondering what conservatorship looked like in Britain.
@camelopardalis84
@camelopardalis84 3 жыл бұрын
You don't sound as if you're mad at your mother ... Are you actually not or am I misreading something?
@NotAnotherKuromi
@NotAnotherKuromi 3 жыл бұрын
It's ridiculus that the courts belived your behaviour & symptoms were severe enough for you to not be able to care for yourself. Yet the mental health services didn't seem alarmed or notice enough symptoms to diagnose you with any medical condition. I am glad you received an accurate diagnosis then appropriate & sucsessful treatment as an adult. Also relived that your mother let you have control over your life but lying to you about it is a huge abuse of trust, that I couldn't forgive. My sister had bad care from CAMHS & by talking to others I know her experience is not rare. It's a shame that they are waisting early intervention by seemingly minimizing most childrens emotional/mental distress & hoping it will magically dissappear by the time they turn 18. Not that adult mental health services are perfect but actual diagnosis seem more common. My sister got her autism diagnosis, along with more recognition how low much her anxiety impacts her life eventually in her late 20's.
@johannageisel5390
@johannageisel5390 3 жыл бұрын
This is absolutely horrible! I had no idea she was in this situation.
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