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What do Larnell Lewis, Sarah Thawer, and Mark Guiliana have in common?
They’re all great drummers. But what makes them so great? Why do they sound so good?
In this quick tip, Nate Smith (aka “The 80/20 Drummer”) explains how note placement is a key reason top drummers sound better than the rest of us. And you don’t have to be ‘born with it’ to learn how to improve where and how you hit the drums.
Nate shares his favorite analogy about note placement and shows you a few metronome exercises to improve your timing. Give them a try!
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@mullrump2 2 жыл бұрын

Bout time Drumeo got Nate in....A Great dude and educator.

@tdrum21 Жыл бұрын

Amen 👌🏽

@elroyselma5005 Жыл бұрын

Amen

@newportband3255 Жыл бұрын

🙏

@buzwa2k Жыл бұрын

Hell yeah Gareth!

@jimmyjames7809 Жыл бұрын

Awesome dude! 👍

@JonSudano Жыл бұрын

Hell yeah Nate glad to see you on Drumeo

@8020drummer Жыл бұрын

Yoooooo 💪💪

@bladelazoe Жыл бұрын

Simply put, they practiced the right shit on a consistent basis. One thing that held back my playing for many years is consistency. If you want to be great, you gotta do it consistently and gradually moving out of your comfort zone.

@anttihelin938 2 жыл бұрын

Finally Nate is on Drumeo! I'm huge fan of both channels and I've been waiting this for years! Thanks for the great video!

@DrumeoOfficial 2 жыл бұрын

💙💙

@cjg786 Жыл бұрын

Same

@KevinPaulineNeal Жыл бұрын

Likewise.

@bronsontolliver9027 Жыл бұрын

Nate is the brutal honesty we all need.

@SunnyHF-nf4bc Жыл бұрын

@Bronson Tolliver I agree. And I’m glad he figured out how to deliver that brutal honesty without alienating newcomers.

@ealingschoolofdrums3692 Жыл бұрын

This Guy is Brilliant, his knowledge is sooo deep. We need more of his concepts, please.

@jphifer2848 Жыл бұрын

I’be followed Nate for a long time. It’s GREAT to have him on Drumeo!! He sees the “inside” perspective on things that we all observe, but that we don’t really understand the details of. Each one of your educators brings something different, yet they all come together to make Drumeo a “go to” in drum education. Thank you, Jared, and Nate!!!

@DrumeoOfficial Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the kind words! 💙

@dougm3162 Жыл бұрын

Less GOOOO😃

@YouWentToJared 2 жыл бұрын

Easily the most informative, killer, and most importantly: useful, lesson in forever. Thanks.

@DrumeoOfficial 2 жыл бұрын

Glad you like it, Jared!

@8020drummer Жыл бұрын

Aaaaaw 😀😀😀

@elroyselma5005 Жыл бұрын

Amen

@jeremymullins1294 Жыл бұрын

Oh wow! This has been so cool to see these KZfaq drummers showing up, like Rob "Beatdown" Brown, Camille Bigeault, and now Nate!

@DrumeoOfficial Жыл бұрын

Glad you like it, Jeremy!

@johnfrenette Жыл бұрын

One thing I like most about Sarah Thawer is that she’s got the absolute best stank face. She’s obviously an amazing player, but her facial expressions just totally get me into whatever she’s doing. It’s not some practiced thing, she’s just feeling it, and it makes me feel it all the more. So good.

@quicolic Жыл бұрын

So happy to see Nate here. He is an amazing educator and always keep uploading his videos in his channel!

@RobBeatdownBrown Жыл бұрын

Very cool seeing Nate up in the house 👊🏾😎

@Thermington Жыл бұрын

Nate is such a great teacher, he reminds me of my drum teacher. Very helpful with the visual analogy!

@Mayhemzz Жыл бұрын

Watched Nate for a long time and got pretty excited when he popped up here! Would absolutely love a full length lesson from him!

@justseaningaround Жыл бұрын

That was fun! Easily one of my favourite Drumeo videos yet. I already followed/enjoyed Nates stuff but the production quality here along with the visuals/sense of humour intermixed was a beautiful blend of approachable education. Thank you. 🙏

@DrumeoOfficial Жыл бұрын

Cheers!

@wesleyhughston5358 Жыл бұрын

I love this guy, he's brought drumming down to realistic goals that build foundations for all drummers to build greatness upon

@MickeyInw Жыл бұрын

👍 Great practice idea! I've been doing this for few hours and my groove and fill is sound much better right after. I always practice with quarter note click offbeat and this is much more fun to me. Big thanks again for Drumeo 🙏

@michaelstevens8 Жыл бұрын

Hello from Kansas City, Missouri. Great Video Nate. What it takes to be a Great Drummer are a number of things that are Simple but not Easy. Specifically, Tone, Time, Feel, Articulation, Dynamics, Rhythms, Sticking, Instrumentation. But also things like Being on Time, Learning a Song Quickly, Efficient Rehearsals etc. Also for anyone that's interested, Nate Smiths 80/20 Drummer Website and KZfaq Channel are easily two of the Best sites and channels for Drummers, especially for Jazz. Thanks.

@trafalgerdavis7839 Жыл бұрын

This was great. I watch 80/20 as well at times. This lesson reminds of Phil Rudd on a song like 'Back In Black'. It is simple beat, but if you listen closely, Rudd is in a pocket that is unbelievable. It's deceptively simple pattern, but its all how Rudd plays it. It comes with time to develop feel.

@rellis3940 Жыл бұрын

Simply put. You gotta swing no matter what you play. Metal/ Rock Pop Jazz. It's feel and pocket is harder than 8 bar riffs . Once you get over I gotta show out than put those 32 fills and really blow them away. Peace out.

@diegopeart Жыл бұрын

Rudd is widely known for playing just the right amount of "behind the beat", leaving that big open space per bar for the guitars and bass to fill it to the brim. and it works beautifully.

@ricosalomar Жыл бұрын

Great to see Nate here! And to hear him on a kit that isn't all busted up 🤣

@jhamler1 Жыл бұрын

Wow! I’ve been watching 80/20 for years and for some reason thought he oughta be working for/with Drumeo all along. The drumming union/community is second to none amongst musicians

@jcbozich Жыл бұрын

This is all put together so well! Production, content, clips, playing and the drums sound amazing as usual. Well done Nate and Drumeo! ❤️🤘🎉

@DrumeoOfficial Жыл бұрын

Thanks!

@shoelessmusic440 Жыл бұрын

Being able to displace the beat by 8th's and 16th's along with a click was one of the hardest things I ever learned how to do. Because I (we) was raised on rock and roll radio it took soooo long to be able to escape that backbeat as we've been trained to find it. Now I can slip in and out of it at will but it wasn't easy

@cynthiaarmstrong7972 2 жыл бұрын

Drumeo is not just THE best drum education online, it is a great, supportive community 😊

@DrumeoOfficial 2 жыл бұрын

💙💙

@cfusilier2 2 жыл бұрын

That’s a really interesting and cool way to think about…well, a lot of things. Great practice ideas, too. Thanks guys.

@DrumeoOfficial 2 жыл бұрын

Cheers Cody!

@vintageludwig Жыл бұрын

I love the analogy of the motorcycle in the parking spot, but really you're just timing your hesitations.

@8020drummer Жыл бұрын

I feel it's more like the resolution of a TV screen. When we first start playing time, the pixels are all big, and there's really only "approximately near the beat" or "way off". As we get better, the pixels get smaller, and you can find the center of the beat. So while physically what might be happening is we have to have the mechanics line up so we can place the note where we hear it, what I'm talking about is even farther up the brainstem, and has to do with how accurately we're HEARING the spot we need to calibrate the hesitation of our body to place the note. If that makes any sense.

@vintageludwig Жыл бұрын

@@8020drummer I can see what you're saying here. As our resolution gets larger over time, our abilities are better suited to placing the hits within the pixels where others may not even be able to perceive.

@gianfrancogaureau8624 Жыл бұрын

This is so awesome. I’m a better drummer than I was 2 years ago and by a lot because of my teachers in Lima, Peru and also because of you Nate. That tip of keeping things hitting at the same time and the off beat 16ths helped me a lot.

@paistefever Жыл бұрын

Oh hell yeah! Finally! A long time fan of both, great to see the crossover finally happening! :)

@bakerfam1000 Жыл бұрын

Been an 80/20 sub since 2017 truly an academic

@religiareoriginel1933 Жыл бұрын

Nate is really one of the best youtube teachers. Big up from France Drumeo !

@drummermomcjs Жыл бұрын

Nate and Drumeo, two great tastes that go well together! Awesome video Nate and Frumeo!

@darkgio6 Жыл бұрын

I'm not a drummer but I enjoy learning how music "works", and this was an amazing, informative video.

@josexavierjr.5633 Жыл бұрын

Great to see Nate on Drumeo! To me, he has a real life approach to drumming, but has the unique ability to see certain details that most of us do not. Very cool, hope to see more of him on Drumeo. 👍🥁🥁🥁🥁🥁

@IAmInfinitus208 Жыл бұрын

This really reminds me of how flow is really important to get a good groove while filling. Bill Bruford does a great example of it. I hope you guys do an episode on him!

@garyastrein5192 Жыл бұрын

You look so professional all dressed up, got to get used to the new look, congratulations, I knew they were going to nab you, always loved your authenticity and style, keep moving forward

@peterevans366 Жыл бұрын

Brilliantly performed and explained by one of the great teachers out there Nate👌🥁

@marcopolo4468 Жыл бұрын

Love that guy Nate been learning off him for years now

@josephchambers3394 Жыл бұрын

I've been wishing for this collaboration for years.

@KevinPaulineNeal Жыл бұрын

Very good. In New Zealand we need this. Thanks Mr Nate.

@cocoblizzard Жыл бұрын

The theorisation of Nate with the production value of Drumeo is a banger. We need this as a régular serie.

@StuartJrBarrett Жыл бұрын

This lesson will make me sign up for Drumeo! Nate is excellent!!!

@TheMusicalSchizo Жыл бұрын

This was great! Thanks for having him on, Drumeo - I hope there's a lot more to come. Nate is a fantastic no-nonsense educator that takes tricky-to-first-grab concepts and charts a great path to understanding!

@8020drummer Жыл бұрын

thanks!

@DrDrewdude Жыл бұрын

So glad to see Nate Smith on Drumeo!

@paulgriffingatorgrooves Жыл бұрын

Thanks Nate! Love the parking space analogy! And hearing the metronome on different parts of the beat - works great - to me it’s like playing a groove with a percussionist!

@BrianH020 Жыл бұрын

So cool to see you here Nate! 👍

@trevbeats77 Жыл бұрын

Perfect illustration

@david54780 2 жыл бұрын

this opened my eyes back when I saw it on Nate's channel.. great lesson

@fede170493 Жыл бұрын

Finally some recognition for Nate.

@richardgartland5658 Жыл бұрын

Love Nate, great to see him on the channel. Wicked insight from a great educator who can really elevate everyone's playing regardless of level 🙌

@8020drummer Жыл бұрын

thanks so much

@guts2112 Жыл бұрын

The guy that got my drumming off the ground. Been watching this guy’s videos since before I was a drummer.

@OrangeDrinkMusic Жыл бұрын

Nate on Drumeo! FINALLY!

@alanramirogarcia2886 2 жыл бұрын

That drums SOUND SICK.

@Jonathan-dj5ry Жыл бұрын

Love this guy! Awesome to see him at Drumeo ✌🏻

@esotericgeOrge Жыл бұрын

Whoa!! Nate! So glad to see him here. Been following him for a while. Great lesson! Really excited about working on this.

@sidyal Жыл бұрын

As a long time subscriber to Nate and Drumeo it's great they've done something together. Good lesson. 👍

@smokesreefer9417 Жыл бұрын

that was awesome! thanks 80/20! and drumeo

@kornelwav Жыл бұрын

Wow. Nate! Cool to see you at Drumeo!

@FloridaCatholicGuy 2 жыл бұрын

The most under rated drummer is Joey Kramer from Aerosmith. You can really hear how great he is by listening to Aerosmith live without Joey during this current tour compared to Aerosmith with Joey Kramer. When they did their Nine Lives album, Joey wasn’t there for the recording so they used a session drummer…when Joey came back they scrapped the whole album and re-recorded it with Joey.

@rellis3940 Жыл бұрын

Listen to Get your wings and Rocks some of Joey's best. Just some.

@vasilias2230 Жыл бұрын

Nice, a fellow SensusFidelium subscriber

@rellis3940 Жыл бұрын

I love Weckel Gadd Phillips etc. But I Love Me some Kramer. Very underated!!!

@rellis3940 Жыл бұрын

Also one of my favorites. Mark Carney gone to soon. Listen to Gino's Brother to Brother. Craney not Carney. Sorry.

@marceugeni Жыл бұрын

Wtf!

@mr.anderson70 Жыл бұрын

This is the best video Drumeo has ever put up....by farrrr.

@PabloDiegoDrum Жыл бұрын

Great combination! Drumeo and Nate ! Love and appreciate both. Thanks for the lesson

@Plydrms Жыл бұрын

..really cool motorcycle analogy, kept me tuned in the whole lesson. You should have him back!

@jeleelmeintjies Жыл бұрын

This is basically a 80/20 drummer video on drumeo. big W drumeo. its about time

@juancarlosbatres6782 2 жыл бұрын

So glad to see Nate here. So cool

@DrumeoOfficial 2 жыл бұрын

Cheers Juan!

@NadavLuzia Жыл бұрын

Love Nate, great to see him here finally

@clueless2746 Жыл бұрын

HE’S ON DRUMEOOOOO Zack next tho

@stevewilcock4767 Жыл бұрын

Thank you Nate and Drumeo. Much appreciated. Cheers.

@kwarddrumz5912 Жыл бұрын

AWESOME NATE,,,BEEN FOLLOWING YOU FOR YEARS...EVEN BOUGHT A COUPLE OF COURSES FROM YOU....WELL DESERVED TO BE ON DRUMEO..KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK

@8020drummer Жыл бұрын

thanks so much

@PerpetualTwilight88 Жыл бұрын

Nate is a good man also a great drummer and the best teacher

@brianmcguire5175 Жыл бұрын

Thanks for your responses. I've deleted my former comments because I think I muddied the waters in respect to the topic of your video. Love your channel and respect you as a musician and tutor truly. Thanks for the exchange all the same

@8020drummer Жыл бұрын

There was no need to delete anything. I appreciated your comments either way 💪

@brianmcguire5175 Жыл бұрын

Hey, revisiting our exchange here. Why didn't you mention yourself as great!? You are also an example of great, like your peers!

@eugenio1260 Жыл бұрын

Glad to see you here!

@julesdrums6167 Жыл бұрын

Yay Nate you made it dude!!

@bruceleeharveyoswald5104 2 жыл бұрын

Such an amazing analogy, Nate!

@jonasstone1520 2 жыл бұрын

Good to see at least one Nate Smith appeared on Drumeo. Now for the 'real' Nate Smith. ;)

@ColonelClaypool Жыл бұрын

Great explanation of a topic not discussed often enough!

@kimrapley3721 Жыл бұрын

I like the parking space concept, I discovered the idea of what Nate calls the parking space here when I was doing exercises to improve my weak hand (left). I would add task to the left during fills and added notes to hi hat and ride as a warm up and found myself covering the snare more with the right hand. Doing this made me double think timing and iron out the rough spots, sometimes by adding a double or creating a rest note. It forced me to slow down and when I did I found so much room inside the beat that it unleashed new creativity. Nate is dropping a really good nugget here for those who haven’t already discovered the space between where music lives.

@kimrapley3721 Жыл бұрын

Another thing that separates these exceptional drummers from a more average drummer is their intuitive use of dynamics, pace, feel and momentum.

@8020drummer Жыл бұрын

@@kimrapley3721 which is *kind of* a different way to say the same thing? (But we agree) BTW I can't take credit for the parking space. That comes from my friend Ian Allison.

@donazulay5814 Жыл бұрын

Great job in getting the process across!!! Cant think of a better way of explaining playing on,behind and ahead of the beat than the parking space scenario 😉👏👍✌🏼

@Jath2112 Жыл бұрын

I've been waiting a long time for this one.... awesome. Nate is a great professor.

@spoontastico Жыл бұрын

I'm 1 minute in, and can't wait to hear what Nate sounds like on an un-busted, actual kit!!

@honkytonkinson9787 Жыл бұрын

When I manage to practice every day for a while I begin to feel like I’m getting close, especially on a good day where I’m just jamming along with my favorite tunes Then I miss a few days due to boring responsibilities and when I come back I’m sloppy, takes a while to warm up, and I struggle to lock up with the beat real tight. Really frustrating when I just can’t manage to play at the level I know I’m capable of, or at least want to be capable of.

@jamieharr4459 Жыл бұрын

This guy always finds new and interesting ways for me to hate my own drumming...Another lesson you never get in life kids .. Ignorance is bliss... Remember to have fun and feel the music..

@8020drummer Жыл бұрын

lol noooo! Love your playing. It's always tough right? We have to accept ourselves as we are but also strive to improve.

@jamieharr4459 Жыл бұрын

@@8020drummer I agree...I love your videos and they always challenge my perception of my own playing...I knew if you read this you would understand I was joking about hating my drumming and get the fact that it is important above all else to have fun and not take yourself to seriously...

@Tekkerue Жыл бұрын

So humble of Nate to put himself on the level with us mere mortals as if he isn't a DRUM GOD! 😄

@anthronshuler3532 2 жыл бұрын

my mind is 🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯 and I often wondered why does these great drummers sound better.

@dhmtbr2551 Жыл бұрын

Nate in the house !

@tomaszmikinka8681 Жыл бұрын

I like how drumeo prepare huge drumset for Nate and He’s just throw everything through the window 😂

@8020drummer Жыл бұрын

to be fair, I played a LOT on that kit, but in this, the first of 3 videos we shot (plus a take of me playing with a song), they just cut most of the playing out.

@hombreenojado Жыл бұрын

Mark Giuliana's work ethic is ABSURD!

@simpinghouse376 Жыл бұрын

awesome class, love the way he educates

@jpmc271 2 жыл бұрын

This is great. The other element is dynamics. Timing is everything. But dynamics is the cherry on top that separates the greats from the plebs.

@DrumeoOfficial 2 жыл бұрын

Very true 🙌

@gasoid Жыл бұрын

finally your drumskit sounds excellent :D congratulations!

@marcuszc3172 Жыл бұрын

Great to see Nate here !!

@krioni86sa 2 жыл бұрын

Underrated lesson

@kevinswan8311 Жыл бұрын

Finally, 80/20. Nicely done.

@BouseFeenuxTV Жыл бұрын

The cool thing is the green hoodie homie wasn't trying to outplay the "bad drummer" He was helping him sound better. Bringing him up and that's what music is about.

@Jath2112 Жыл бұрын

What I like about the Thomas thing....is that he jumps in WITH the other dude. He doesn't care about who is what...he just loves to be playing music with someone right then.