Why I Downgraded from 360Hz to 240Hz

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3 жыл бұрын

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@optimumtech
@optimumtech 3 жыл бұрын
Just uploaded to the gaming channel also! kzfaq.info/get/bejne/h9l_hKujz92aqqc.html
@the_womp_and_only9062
@the_womp_and_only9062 3 жыл бұрын
There's other forms of backlight strobing that are actually good like ASUS TUF ELMB sync and ULMB sync on some gsync compatible monitors. I've heard the Acer 270hz 1440p has really good backlight strobing for an ips panel and might be what you're looking for
@hughlevantjames905
@hughlevantjames905 3 жыл бұрын
The thing you get asked the most is your workout routine!
@YayaTia_II
@YayaTia_II 3 жыл бұрын
@@the_womp_and_only9062 nice how much is that I'm looking to upgrade from a TN 240Hz Asus panel to one with better image quality and the same speed though... This might be worth a look.
@shreyasgamer12
@shreyasgamer12 3 жыл бұрын
6:04 But you said that you are an esports gamer in the review of asus 360hz monitor...
@meesun2060
@meesun2060 3 жыл бұрын
I would like to recommend using frog pursuit in lieu of UFO's from blur busters. Aperture Grille made a game that is much better than blur busters UFO's being Chrome and Firefox can't keep up with variable refresh rates
@benjaminrobledo5466
@benjaminrobledo5466 2 жыл бұрын
The human eye can only see the $500 difference.
@MyouKyuubi
@MyouKyuubi Жыл бұрын
You can definitely see a little more than just that, lmao. xD 360 Hz is great, but, unless the individual pixels can keep up with that refresh rate, the difference you're going to see between a 240 hz and a 360 hz is that the 360 hz is a smudgy-a** mess. That being said, his solution to the problem was stupid, lmao... he could've just set his 360 IPS monitor (The one with superior color presentation) to 240 hz, instead of getting a TN monitor (Dogsht colors, all yellow and green, ugh...). xD Rich people have very little common sense. ;)
@matt476
@matt476 Жыл бұрын
bro
@Exlarinity
@Exlarinity Жыл бұрын
@@MyouKyuubi k
@schmockyyyyyyy
@schmockyyyyyyy Жыл бұрын
A human eye doesnt see more than 60 fps wehen it looks around itself a monitor can do that so its how it feels not how we see it
@mikir1741
@mikir1741 Жыл бұрын
@@MyouKyuubiI'll have to ask you about monitors once I go get a new one
@0M7D
@0M7D 3 жыл бұрын
I upgraded from 60 to 240 and its life-changing, to say the least
@DrR1pper
@DrR1pper 3 жыл бұрын
Upgrading from 240 to 120 backlight strobing is even more life-changing. It brings CRT levels of motion clarity.
@luider8795
@luider8795 3 жыл бұрын
the strobing better be really refined to it not to induce headaches, which is not possible on a cheapo 120hz monitor
@luider8795
@luider8795 3 жыл бұрын
the strobing better be really refined to it not to induce headaches, which is not possible on a cheapo 120hz monitor
@DrR1pper
@DrR1pper 3 жыл бұрын
@@luider8795 Not really sure what you mean. Isn't the potential of inducing headaches just tied with the refresh rate of the strobing?
@ozzyonaostrich2661
@ozzyonaostrich2661 3 жыл бұрын
You should’ve got 280
@akhidan
@akhidan 3 жыл бұрын
This has to be one of the most pragmatic and comprehensive comparisons that I have ever seen. Good work, and I really enjoyed the insight.
@InvntdXNEWROMAN
@InvntdXNEWROMAN 3 жыл бұрын
Watching a monitor review on hardware unboxed would explode your brain then.
@p43j77
@p43j77 2 жыл бұрын
Also, the setting makes a huge difference. My monitor has very serious ghosting problem when set to 144Hz. But when set to 120Hz, almost no ghosting at all. Some maker pushes their panel to get bigger FPS number, but in some case that just makes it look wost.
@BTaesthetics
@BTaesthetics 3 жыл бұрын
We need a benq 360hz dyac +++ monitor
@jonasba2764
@jonasba2764 3 жыл бұрын
Aww yeah
@Speedy94uru
@Speedy94uru 3 жыл бұрын
If you can afford a $1500 monitor for sure
@gustavo-rios
@gustavo-rios 3 жыл бұрын
at that point your just a player inside the game
@GraybeardGiffTech
@GraybeardGiffTech 3 жыл бұрын
How about a benq 1440p dyac monitor finally?!!
@Andrew-re8by
@Andrew-re8by 3 жыл бұрын
What color settings do you use on the XL2546K?
@zkrbnl
@zkrbnl 3 жыл бұрын
Me playing on 60Hz : WoW 360Hz Is Not good Like Ali said.
@crumblenoob
@crumblenoob 3 жыл бұрын
@@griffin1366 he's saying "wow 360hz sucks" despite having a 60hz display which undoubtedly sucks more.
@zenithii1882
@zenithii1882 3 жыл бұрын
@@crumblenoob u dont understand the joke right? LMAO
@ichigodesu8975
@ichigodesu8975 3 жыл бұрын
@@crumblenoob are you okay?
@FNKY767
@FNKY767 3 жыл бұрын
​@@zenithii1882 he was explaining the joke to a user who deleted their comment
@zenithii1882
@zenithii1882 3 жыл бұрын
@@FNKY767 oh ok my bad lol
@marko_jack_
@marko_jack_ 3 жыл бұрын
This is my favorite channel, without "silly jokes", he is so smooth, serious, represantive, only speeks about true facts, this channel is one of the best for PC hardware...
@ronnie3626
@ronnie3626 3 жыл бұрын
True!
@pugz6581
@pugz6581 5 ай бұрын
2 years later he would upgrade to a 540hz
@cuerex8580
@cuerex8580 Ай бұрын
he only upgrade whatever is new. he has infinite money glitch
@eeunoo
@eeunoo Ай бұрын
@@cuerex8580and u the viewer is the generator
@imnotusingmyrealname4566
@imnotusingmyrealname4566 3 жыл бұрын
2:27 Woah that shot was amazing.
@etmasikewo
@etmasikewo 3 жыл бұрын
pursuit cam :o
@utrippin7486
@utrippin7486 3 жыл бұрын
what games is he playing there? (other than cs go)
@captainobvious3678
@captainobvious3678 3 жыл бұрын
@@utrippin7486 Apex Legends, Valorant, and Overwatch
@Willian774
@Willian774 2 жыл бұрын
I mean, this is exactly how you test your monitor using ufo test
@albertyoung3025
@albertyoung3025 3 жыл бұрын
me watching the game in 60hz: whats so different
@luminousfractal420
@luminousfractal420 3 жыл бұрын
tired red eyes
@fishtheif
@fishtheif 3 жыл бұрын
Me watching the video in 30hz, wdym they all look shitty
@R1DER420
@R1DER420 3 жыл бұрын
im 60hz i tried 240hz is🔥🔥 and its easier to aim with me
@MrTheguitaristguy
@MrTheguitaristguy 3 жыл бұрын
Big facts hommie
@drippin5762
@drippin5762 3 жыл бұрын
The difference between even 60 and 120 is very nice
@kaytomascom
@kaytomascom 6 ай бұрын
great video, as always. A deep dive, or comparison, into ultra light motion blur would also be interesting.
@justinetrinidad4829
@justinetrinidad4829 3 жыл бұрын
6 minute video, quick to the point = Subscribe. Keep it up man!
@sakethkumar7458
@sakethkumar7458 3 жыл бұрын
Companies watching: interesting let's make 480hz minitor
@pirx9798
@pirx9798 3 жыл бұрын
and charge more for it
@3hited
@3hited 3 жыл бұрын
there already is one
@FUCKwax
@FUCKwax 3 жыл бұрын
@@3hited name?
@boblablaw4857
@boblablaw4857 3 жыл бұрын
@@FUCKwax There was a homebrew one on one of the tech channels. Linus, maybe? I don't think there is a retail one out.
@sintervinter7233
@sintervinter7233 3 жыл бұрын
To be fair companies have to keep inovating
@gamepro94z
@gamepro94z 3 жыл бұрын
A tech reviewer that's actually good at video games is such a refresher.
@gordonho5986
@gordonho5986 3 жыл бұрын
Such a clean and precise presentation, as always.
@MichaelBertolino
@MichaelBertolino 3 жыл бұрын
Ali, just finished my SSUPD Meshlicious build and it's awesome! Thank you for reviewing it!
@TWJYILY
@TWJYILY 3 жыл бұрын
Honestly the difference between 240hz and 360hz is so minimal, and I'd rather have BenQ's Dyac technology because that's something that actually makes a massive difference.
@achoprtv
@achoprtv 3 жыл бұрын
Have you seen how it looks on ips 👀
@achoprtv
@achoprtv 3 жыл бұрын
It looks extremely good compared to the TN panel
@EnnTomi1
@EnnTomi1 3 жыл бұрын
@@achoprtv well, the benqs are TN panel.
@TWJYILY
@TWJYILY 3 жыл бұрын
@@achoprtv Yea, that's the only downside. Though in terms of pure performance, the BenQ beats it hands down. DyAC is a game changer.
@itsHappyMeal
@itsHappyMeal 3 жыл бұрын
@@TWJYILY is DyAC really good on spraying? too bad can't find one in my country
@RuneLokke
@RuneLokke 2 жыл бұрын
After Linus has turned into tv-shop, you have become my favorite reviewer, keep up the excellent work.
@KindOldRaven
@KindOldRaven 2 жыл бұрын
They say that with smoothness and image clarity during fast motions we tend to really notice doubles. From 30 to 60 is a nobrainer. From 60 to 120 is huge. From 120 to 240 is definitely noticeable (especially in image clarity during motion) but 240 to 360 is more like going from 120 to 165. It's noticeable, but probably wouldn't be worth the upgrade. 240 to 480 would, however, be noticeable to most people as long as you point them at what to look for (basically viewing it more as motion blur reduction than actually being or feeling much smoother or more direct). Apparently it'd take around 1000hz/fps to have motion clarity equal to the good CRT screens from before most people reading this were born. They didn't have sample-and-hold technology and therefore could be 'stuttery', but technically didn't have motion blur. Hell, it's possible for fast motions to appear *much* sharper and clearer on such a monitor than in real life. As weird as that may sound.
@thelittleewokboss9929
@thelittleewokboss9929 2 жыл бұрын
I use 165hz it’s great
@Samarth916
@Samarth916 Жыл бұрын
Referring to your last line, you might not believe me, but in real life, fast motions can be sharper and clearer if the environmental light was more than the average sunlight... Some really bright source can help.
@cantnevercouldmotivation
@cantnevercouldmotivation Жыл бұрын
i do miss that 150hz crt i had ( 640 resolution tho lol ) was worth it
@shadowxsm
@shadowxsm 8 ай бұрын
funny how we had like 180+hz monitors 30 years ago ahah
@TimBoundy
@TimBoundy 3 жыл бұрын
"Inverse ghosting" or corona is often not mentioned in reviews, I'm glad you talked about it. I bought a Samsung Q80T for use as a lounge computer display as it was touted as one of the best gaming TVs on the market for brighter rooms (OLED isn't bright enough for my setup). This TV has hideous amounts of inverse ghosting, I can visibly see my room get brighter at night with the lights off when moving around in some scenes (in particular, Witcher 3 and Valheim during the game's night).
@ritzy4593
@ritzy4593 3 жыл бұрын
I've never exotic that on my Q80t that's odd
@HugoElcabezas
@HugoElcabezas 3 жыл бұрын
@@ritzy4593 inverse ghosting is very common on VA panels
@ritzy4593
@ritzy4593 3 жыл бұрын
@@HugoElcabezas I have the Q80t 65inch, Samsung G7, G9, and CHG70 and gave never experienced that on my screens though. The motion on those screens is really really good
@mmorales508
@mmorales508 3 жыл бұрын
No TV is really meant for gaming no matter how much "gaming" they put on the box.
@Eonymia
@Eonymia 2 жыл бұрын
Hardware unboxed is very good with that, they usually talk about inverse ghosting (overshoot) in their reviews.
@oxzi58
@oxzi58 3 жыл бұрын
dude I love your reviews so much. Also its nice to see someone thats actually good at video games reviewing this stuff. I dont mean that you have to be a pro at fps but its satisfying to see that you understand the games to a certain level that you know what to say about the products, i notice it everytime i watch you and its a nice feeling. Keep it up!
@Luke-gz5yj
@Luke-gz5yj 2 жыл бұрын
hey, mate, im torn between the zowie mentioned in th video and the rog strix 1440p 240hz pg27aqm. im coming from a g9 and i play a lot of valorant so im sure the zowie is the option to go for but ive feel in love with 1440p gaming from the g9. any chance you can review these two monitors in comparison? Thank you
@bhagats1ngh
@bhagats1ngh 3 ай бұрын
so what u got
@Luke-gz5yj
@Luke-gz5yj 3 ай бұрын
@@bhagats1ngh I have legion Lenovo 24 inch 1080p 240hz monitor. I play valorant competitively
@JoseEncarnacao
@JoseEncarnacao 2 жыл бұрын
Very well put up video! Cheers from Portugal
@HOkayson
@HOkayson 3 жыл бұрын
Nice video, explains the thoughts well & frankly I'm totally convinced after seeing those comparisons! I'll verify it via some other sources just in case it was a setup issue in some way (highly unlikely)
@chad7753
@chad7753 3 жыл бұрын
not only the shots, even your hoodie is so clean I LOVE IT!
@WarpSonic
@WarpSonic 2 жыл бұрын
Dude, THANK YOU for not leaving us esports enthusiasts out to dry on your channel. So many other channels hardly cover anything about the latest 1080p esports displays. Is it theoretically possible to put DyAC features on an IPS monitor or is there something about it that it only works with TN panels? I'd love something that has extremely low motion blur at 240hz or higher but TN panels aren't what I'd want for my setup even though I'm a very competitive gamer.
@ltsLex
@ltsLex 2 жыл бұрын
upgraded from 144 to 360, best and the last monitor I'll ever need, I play a bit of CS, MX Bikes, DbD, Geometry dash and Dying light, got the most use out of MX and GD which I spend the most time in so I'd say it was pretty much worth it, even if you don't push frames to the max, the input response is absolutely insanee
@thecatdaddy1981
@thecatdaddy1981 3 жыл бұрын
Motion clarity is such an underrated feature of gaming monitors that almost no manufacturer advertises properly. Even some of the nastiest VA panels with horrible ghosting and smearing can be advertised as "1ms". It's why I steered away from the Asus PG35VQ (200hz VA panel) and went for the LG 38GN950 instead (160hz IPS). There is no way to truly know how good a monitor is in this department without a proper reviewer showing the real response times across all colors with different overdrive modes. Tim from Hardware Unboxed has done a great job there, though.
@enthusiasticgmgaming4165
@enthusiasticgmgaming4165 3 жыл бұрын
That budget 1080p Monitor comparison coming soon, Ali?
@optimumtech
@optimumtech 3 жыл бұрын
Finally have all of the ones I want to compare - so yes!
@fefemess
@fefemess 3 жыл бұрын
@@optimumtech Yay!
@enthusiasticgmgaming4165
@enthusiasticgmgaming4165 3 жыл бұрын
@@optimumtech EPIC can't wait! Keep up the amazing work!
@randalllawkin
@randalllawkin 3 жыл бұрын
My man!
@WENEVERLEFT
@WENEVERLEFT 3 жыл бұрын
@@optimumtech XG2431 review in plans?
@vladislavkaras491
@vladislavkaras491 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the v ideo! I always have thought that 360Hz monitors are having only the refresh rate and nothing more, since it is so hard to implement it right now.
@ronchum5178
@ronchum5178 2 жыл бұрын
The tech in that Zowie sounds pretty cool. One day I might have to upgrade if they ever make a 1440p one. My personal ideal monitor would be 1440p and 160-180hz. Of course it would also be OLED due to the colors and near instant response times.
@wayleygg
@wayleygg 2 жыл бұрын
Not OLED, but consider the 27GP850-b by LG. It’s 1440p 165hz (OC to 180hz). IPS panel of course and 1ms RT.
@StepTronic
@StepTronic 2 жыл бұрын
They already have a 1440p 240hz monitor
@adabujiki
@adabujiki 3 жыл бұрын
I like this guy. He is so gentle and humble in his approach. A true Gentleman.
@seenochasm7101
@seenochasm7101 Жыл бұрын
True
@ghastlytsuyoshi346
@ghastlytsuyoshi346 3 ай бұрын
Gay
@adabujiki
@adabujiki 3 ай бұрын
@@ghastlytsuyoshi346 lmao
@JaredClarkBoaz
@JaredClarkBoaz 3 жыл бұрын
Glad to see people like you in the space that will make videos like this and not just praise numbers without context.
@sproesser1
@sproesser1 3 жыл бұрын
You bring up a great point when considering what gaming monitor to purchase. Frame sharpness seems just as important as refresh rate.
@TheDeadlyJedly
@TheDeadlyJedly 3 жыл бұрын
Love your aesthetic bud. You got a new KZfaq sub
@fastlegente3430
@fastlegente3430 3 жыл бұрын
And I'm sitting here on a MacBook that can't even properly render 40 frames consistently
@metallurgico
@metallurgico 3 жыл бұрын
what did you expect buying a mac?
@mlkwy
@mlkwy 3 жыл бұрын
Why would you even game with a mac lol
@allansh828
@allansh828 3 жыл бұрын
Me too. All my desktops are mining eth while it is still profitable. I lost interest in all of my previous hobbies.
@fastlegente3430
@fastlegente3430 3 жыл бұрын
@@mlkwy because I got it from my mom when she bought a new one for herself and I can't afford a PC myself yet
@fastlegente3430
@fastlegente3430 3 жыл бұрын
@@metallurgico I didn't buy it. My mom gave it to me for school work ect after she got herself a new computer and I can't afford anything myself yet
@sawyer.5436
@sawyer.5436 3 жыл бұрын
You have some of the best thumbnails ever and they are not even clickbait.
@DrHakennase
@DrHakennase 2 жыл бұрын
I came from 120Hz Ultrawide 1440p to 165hz 1440p 27" and then to the BenQ XL2546. Never made a better choice. The visuals are so fast and sharp and input is so responsive. i cant go back to the other ones. I would like to see a Benq 27"with 1440p and DyAc 240Hz. That would be my next monitor. Im not sure that IPS panels could give me the fastness of an TN panel but we will see. I could recommend a adjustable monitor arm for anyone. You got so much more space on the desk and can put your keyboard and mouse UNDER the monitor. Especially for me cause i got a unconventional hotkey layout. Cant live without DyAc
@colbyboucher6391
@colbyboucher6391 Жыл бұрын
Really glad to see someone on KZfaq discuss response times, motion blur and backlight strobing in-depth, it's not discussed enough. RetroArch has an option for "black frame insertion" which operate on the same principle, and even when it's 120hz getting cut down to 60, the motion clarity was enough to convince me.
@2dozen22s
@2dozen22s 3 жыл бұрын
3:40 That's insanely impressive motion clarity for the framerate
@MLWJ1993
@MLWJ1993 3 жыл бұрын
That's achievable on most TN displays with back-light strobing. It looks absolutely disgusting around the object though so I guess that's very likely a heap of overshoot happening there.
@yz249
@yz249 2 жыл бұрын
Blackframe insertion on 120hz OLED will blow your mind then.
@elisebright
@elisebright 3 жыл бұрын
loving all the monitor tests and reviews, hope you'll do more of them
@xblur17
@xblur17 2 жыл бұрын
What about that Acer Aopen monitor with 390hz + MBR? From the reviews I've seen the MBR on it is almost as good as DYAC, except it happens at 390hz with better response times on the panel. It's an IPS panel with much better contrast, and it's cheaper. I've seen multiple reports that people are gaming better on it and breaking their personal records in aim trainers. Is there any particular reason you'd recommend a monitor that's worse on paper in nearly every single aspect while being more expensive?
@ByeBaybe
@ByeBaybe 3 ай бұрын
thank you for valuable information. this explains the backlight on my current max hz.
@extremelydave
@extremelydave 3 жыл бұрын
Well Mr Optimum, you might not be a pro gamer but you are at the top levels of great KZfaqrs.. You rock man. You videos look crisp and clear, your audio is spot on and you seem to be picking my brain all the time on what to give us every time you fling another video our way. 3 thumbs up!!!! 👍👍👍
@_caoss
@_caoss 3 жыл бұрын
"you might not be a pro gamer" go watch his streams
@GraybeardGiffTech
@GraybeardGiffTech 3 жыл бұрын
When will we finally get a Zowie 1440p/240 option? I enjoy my Alienware 2721D, but I would LOVE to get that clarity in games, but I'm not willing to go back to 1080p now.
@mcunner
@mcunner 2 жыл бұрын
I got an AW2720HFA because it was reasonably priced and in stock 😅 I actually wanted a 1440p 144/165Hz monitor which was advertised at the same price but they haven't been in stock for over a year. I'm not disappointed in my purchase and once I can upgrade my GPU then I might look into the 1440p option again and hopefully by then it'll be in stock 😂
@ewrwrasggre4151
@ewrwrasggre4151 11 ай бұрын
Cool i will get that as a second monitor today. My main is an AW-1440p. GPU RTX 4080. glad you seem happy
@feeblemind
@feeblemind 2 жыл бұрын
glad you shouted out strobing. I bought my Viewsonic Elite specifically for it and people sleep on it and its the only way you can get LCDs to have CRT clarity.
@Psybuster71
@Psybuster71 3 жыл бұрын
I would love to see you try out a CRT and hear your thoughts on them.
@evilTuninvited
@evilTuninvited 3 жыл бұрын
He didn’t know what a CRT monitor was when he reviewed people’s gaming setups. I would also like to see him try them out though.
@jamegumb7298
@jamegumb7298 3 жыл бұрын
@@evilTuninvited I still have one. I wish they made them with hdmi though, getting them to work on modern pc is a hassle. But for some games it just works like nothing else. I just finished Little Nightmares 2 on a CRT, and it was great.
@anthlongordo
@anthlongordo 3 жыл бұрын
@@jamegumb7298 the Delock 62967 DAC I picked up for relatively cheap works amazingly well for me. I get 160hz @ 800x600 and 90hz @ 1600x1200 without issue. It's been a few years since I've used CRT and I'm feeling increasingly disappointed with both my 240hz and 360hz IPS monitors. Response, input lag, ghosting, contrast, richness and warmth are all compromised with LCD. I hope OLED and similar technologies are the future of gaming monitors
@luisramirez-or5vg
@luisramirez-or5vg 3 жыл бұрын
@@anthlongordo oled is already there (of course it costs a small fortune for it), but most likely mini & micro led will be the leading screen types in the next 10-15 years
@MLWJ1993
@MLWJ1993 3 жыл бұрын
My first thought is how they lack the connectivity options of today 😆 They also make an annoying high pitched noise when running at 60Hz & are very flickery giving me a headache. CRT is definitely not for me.
@powerstanik
@powerstanik 3 жыл бұрын
i a subscriber since you had 10k subs and now 468k subscrubers omg you absolutly deserv it love you man. how your video recorded from gameplay is so Highquality? because you record in 4k or video editing? i love it
@kakofps
@kakofps 3 жыл бұрын
I have the msi 251rx since a few months ago and having 240hz on an IPS panel with amazing response time and some really useful features like night mode and sharpen for Warzone is all I need
@williwam7275
@williwam7275 3 жыл бұрын
Your thumbnails are a work of art
@3hited
@3hited 3 жыл бұрын
I agree 100% with your conclusions and it's why IMO a 160Hz CRT feels very similar to a 240Hz LCD. 360Hz (and even higher refresh rates) are the way forward but response times probably aren't there yet. There is another aspect you didn't mention and that's actually being able crank out consistent frames to support a clean 360Hz, that's the reason alone why I also use 240Hz over 360Hz. Also if you want to go farther into these sorts of comparisons a zisworks lcd can show you a lot. It's the same panel doing 120/240/360/480Hz (depending on the res)
@mukundpadmanabhan1930
@mukundpadmanabhan1930 3 жыл бұрын
Can we all just appreciate this king's aim?
@Rajporus19
@Rajporus19 2 жыл бұрын
Straight to the point, very nice informative video !
@NoName-mf1un
@NoName-mf1un 2 жыл бұрын
I need a new monitor for FPS competitive. Should I go from my 144hz to 360hz or just stick to 240hz like the video says? My reactions are pretty fast and I’m wondering if a faster monitor would pair well. I turned dyac off on my benq 144 and have to say whilst I noticed the extra blurr I didn’t mind it at all.
@Transgenic86
@Transgenic86 3 жыл бұрын
I'd love to see your thoughts on seeing the backlight strobing of the ASUS VG248QE. This monitor sold me on BFI many, many years ago. You'd have to find one used at this point, but it is well worth it. It has the best implementation of strobing as the monitor was intended for 3D viewing. Since then, I have yet to find a clearer monitor. The issue with BFI that no one mentions is that it is inserting a black frame. Meaning, a 240Hz panel is showing you 120Hz of information, since every other frame is black. The ASUS VG248QE could only run at 120Hz, and thus a 60Hz BFI image. I eventually got rid of it, but no other monitor has a clearer BFI implementation than that one. However, modern panels are probably clearer in terms of raw visibility just because our manufacturing processes have gotten better. A TN panel from 6 years ago is not the same as a TN panel from now-a-days.
@axaro1738
@axaro1738 3 жыл бұрын
@Optimum Tech May I ask you what AMA and Dyac do you use on the XL2546K (After trying both the VG259QM and the XL2546K the Benq is now my main, I tested motion clarity and I absolutely agree with everything you said in this video, IPS made a great leap in terms of refresh rates but response times compliance are still subpar compared to 240hz TN alternatives)
@KyzeRRR
@KyzeRRR 2 жыл бұрын
Loved your video bro, so Dyac+ Premium and AMA premium too its the best monitor settings right? And what about Black Equalizer and color vibrance?
@kalva7865
@kalva7865 2 ай бұрын
Watching this and then seeing his 540hz monitor video is interesting. Crazy how much time has changed things. Monitors are getting better and better every other year tbh. Keep going dude!
@kpg10
@kpg10 Ай бұрын
Yeah and most of these monitors being useless crap. Good luck getting 540fps outside of that one compet. game you play. 4k's, 400 hz, 500 hz's, company's are out of touch when all they had to do is to implement a well tuned BFI in 120-240hz range ips and oled monitors. But it seems that everyone is following a stupid marketing with all these stupid 4k monitots like they ever gonna achieve these 240 fps or a stupid 500hz monitors just to play one of the few competituve games.
@nolyfe4814
@nolyfe4814 Ай бұрын
@@kpg10 it’s not that companies are out of touch, it’s that lcd displays are flawed and they’re trying to compensate for that. The whole point of pushing for these refresh rates is to match the motion clarity responsiveness we had on crt technology. They’re gonna keep pushing for this until we lcd becomes obsolete
@carswithjames
@carswithjames 3 жыл бұрын
The dislikes are from the guys at ROG, such a shame:( Why the hell would anyone even dislike one of your vids, literally this is the best pc gaming channel on youtube seriously.
@carswithjames
@carswithjames 3 жыл бұрын
True, but I still learned A LOT from this channel and is in my top 3 most helpful channels on youtube
@SmokinGoodd420
@SmokinGoodd420 3 жыл бұрын
Have you tested the VG258QM or VG289QM monitors from Asus? I recently purchased both monitors and returned the VG259QM (IPS) display. The "0.5ms" quoted from asus on the VG258QM just seemed so much smoother vs the IPS variant at 1ms
@fcurti
@fcurti 3 жыл бұрын
its impossible to not like a video this guy puts out
@drchtct
@drchtct 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Ali, how important would you say is the G-Sync Module? I currently own a AW3420DW (3440x1440, 120Hz, IPS, G-Sync Module) as my main, but study abroad and didn't manage to get that massive thing over to the other country. Now looking for a normal 1440p monitor as a temporary solution, but the G-Sync module ups the price from €300 (LG 27GN800) or €400 (LG 27GP850) to €700 for something like an AW 2721D. The Alienware also has 240Hz which I most likely won't need with my 3070Ti, playing mostly AAA shooters, and HDR600. Do you think the G-Sync module is a big deal? I honestly also don't want this temporary monitor to outshine my €900 Ultrawide, so that it looks bad compared to the new one when I get back to that thing :D
@123reivaj
@123reivaj 3 жыл бұрын
Good analysis! :D I have a question: Does activating a strobe option decrease the maximum number of frames per second by half? Dyac = 240fps to 120fps?
@KALTBLUTWOLF1
@KALTBLUTWOLF1 2 жыл бұрын
It always does on any brand. I missed that info in this video too. I cannot believe his measurement of system latency too...
@TrplNine
@TrplNine 2 жыл бұрын
A motionblur reduction technique will not reduce ur fps output as fps is determined by ur pc and not monitor. You will see the same number of franes with dyac on / off but with it on the image will be slightly clearer
@wiyandriluwisto3973
@wiyandriluwisto3973 2 жыл бұрын
it doesn't drop fps iirc it drops brightness since your monitor does not show 100% light all the time but 50% or something depending on the strobing. the rest of the time the backlight is turned off
@asherq8646
@asherq8646 Ай бұрын
Rather than the backlight remaining on, it will turn off between each frame to enhance clarity because the pixels are not backlit between frames. It does not reduce your fps
@TheUnkindness
@TheUnkindness 3 жыл бұрын
Personally, 1080p is getting passed its time. The additional details in the picture that 1440p brings help me spot targets more than I believe 360hz would.
@johnybravoooooo
@johnybravoooooo 3 жыл бұрын
But most 1440p monitors are 27" and above,which isn't really ideal for competitive shooters.
@FG-td4vs
@FG-td4vs 3 жыл бұрын
@@johnybravoooooo what? Nothing wrong with 27 inch
@TheUnkindness
@TheUnkindness 3 жыл бұрын
@@johnybravoooooo If you ONLY play competitive shooters, maybe. But that's your preference.
@nea3451
@nea3451 3 жыл бұрын
I mean most csgo pros out there dont even play at native 1080p
@rdmz135
@rdmz135 3 жыл бұрын
@@nea3451 Yeah for tac shooters like CS and Valorant higher resolutions are completely useless. Maybe the commentor is referring to BR games, where high res helps you see far distance enemies clearer.
@truthhitshard
@truthhitshard 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the video and al the effort you put into it! Do i need a Nvidia card for this ULMB thing? And the Dyac does not lower the brightness?
@PogueSquadron
@PogueSquadron 2 жыл бұрын
I just haven’t seen any kind of backlight strobing that has seemed ideal. The strobing never divides the frames evenly enough, and there always seems to be ghosting or other artifacts.
@GeekyDud
@GeekyDud 3 жыл бұрын
BTW I would just like to say how much I appreciate your blend of 24fps or 30fps B-Roll (not sure which it is) and 60fps gameplay. I hate it when people show video game footage at 24fps or even 30fps if it would normally run at a higher frame rate. It looks so stuttery and honestly distracts from the video.
@delta2884
@delta2884 2 жыл бұрын
How do you notice that? Pro gamer
@ironman-fg3jh
@ironman-fg3jh Жыл бұрын
@@delta2884 it's very obvious
@Raglarak
@Raglarak 3 жыл бұрын
100% agree. I'm pro player and I am thinking on switching back from the Alienware AW2521H 360Hz to the Benq XL2546k because of the same reason, hope we get a 360Hz with DyaC soon.
@Kevin-rf9sx
@Kevin-rf9sx 2 жыл бұрын
I'm a pro. 60hz ftw
@sandorszabados8477
@sandorszabados8477 2 жыл бұрын
Can I Ask your XL2546k settings ? mode,beq,colors, etc. ? ty
@Raglarak
@Raglarak 2 жыл бұрын
Yo, I have colors, brightness all to 100% (This are personal preference they don't affect performance at all). Sharpness I use 7. What matter the most tho is the overdrive and DyAc settings, so the best settings are Overdrive (High) with DyAc+ Premium for the Cleanest Image possible.
@sandorszabados8477
@sandorszabados8477 2 жыл бұрын
Ty bro. BlackEQ , Contrast , Gamma ? And what profile u using ? Standart or gamer or fps ? Ty
@Raglarak
@Raglarak 2 жыл бұрын
@@sandorszabados8477 Np, FPS profile with default BlackEQ, Contrast and Gamma
@buckilicious
@buckilicious 10 ай бұрын
Great video! Just one thing - your claim at @1.57 that the speed up is 3x is not entirely accurate, as a similar argument could be made for 30 / 60 fps. I agree that response times can aid in reducing motion blur; however, it is somewhat unrelated to frame times.
@GONZA10X
@GONZA10X 3 жыл бұрын
You should if ever review the alienware 240hz monitors; both IPS and TN version. I got the TN version and I am really happy with its performance , the way it looks for games, but seeing some videos online (like Marvels Runaway) darks have a pixelation effect that grosses me out. Lol would like to see if switching to the IPS version is worth the “upgrade.” I hear IPS is really good looking, but at the time of my purchase they had not been optimized for responsive/lag compared to TN. Been using mine for almost 2 years.
@ricky836
@ricky836 3 жыл бұрын
Him: Why I Downgraded from 360Hz to 240Hz Me: Why I upgraded from 30Hz to 60Hz
@sharul1709
@sharul1709 3 жыл бұрын
30 hz screen ???? Which device r u using ???
@JXSH722
@JXSH722 3 жыл бұрын
@@sharul1709 switch?
@user-kp4ii5eu2w
@user-kp4ii5eu2w 3 жыл бұрын
@@JXSH722 The switch is a 60hz screen
@michaelmarkovski8269
@michaelmarkovski8269 2 жыл бұрын
@@user-kp4ii5eu2w no it’s not lol 30fps in game
@koffeekage
@koffeekage 3 жыл бұрын
I like 27” monitors, seems like the majority of 360 monitors are 24”.
@chisthyer943
@chisthyer943 3 жыл бұрын
I think with 27 you should get 1440p as 1080 looks not that great on a larger scree
@koffeekage
@koffeekage 3 жыл бұрын
@@chisthyer943 im pretty satisfied, but thats a consideration to be made for sure. .
@cianbrady1557
@cianbrady1557 3 жыл бұрын
I've never bought a 24 inch monitor and I never plan on doing it cuz they are just better for a single monitor setup which is what I have
@shoobadoo123
@shoobadoo123 3 жыл бұрын
@@chisthyer943 I play 1080p on a 32” monitor and it’s fine. So imo you’d have to be verrrry picky to require 1440p on a 27” haha
@chisthyer943
@chisthyer943 3 жыл бұрын
@@shoobadoo123 ye I play on a 240hz 24 inch and my brother has 27 1440 but at the end of the day it's preference
@FreshReviewsYT
@FreshReviewsYT 2 жыл бұрын
Optimum, what are the stands you use for the Pavotubes?
@MrLawson666
@MrLawson666 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome vids Just stumbled on your channel Just bought the Samsung g7 32" hoping it's a decent monitor for gaming on ?
@mj-7444
@mj-7444 3 жыл бұрын
I can tell you this much. When i first transitioned from console to PC at first it didn’t feel any different outside of the fps that is. However, When I went back to console and 60hz it literally felt like lag.
@Smithy2222
@Smithy2222 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting take that IPS is the way forward for gaming monitors, as much as I like IPS panels and use them for both of my secondary monitors I'll still use the VA as my main because the contrast ration and actually having blacks is good.
@Berfs1
@Berfs1 2 жыл бұрын
What do you think about the VG259QM and VG279QM (TUF 280Hz)? There is also a VG258QM but thats a TN panel, so not as comparable.
@moritzbultemeier1236
@moritzbultemeier1236 2 жыл бұрын
did you think about trying out the acer 390hz monitor (should have very good alternative to dyac) also the xg2431 could be very interesting !
@z0mgee406
@z0mgee406 3 жыл бұрын
I just got the xl2540k, coming from a 144hz monitor it is great. $200 for dyac was a lot for me so I got the cheaper version without it. The monitor is great, it is super fast and has amazing ergonomics
@Tricendo
@Tricendo 2 жыл бұрын
L
@im_zerox6205
@im_zerox6205 6 ай бұрын
Hi i just got the monitor too ! Coming from a 2411k i want to ask you about somethings about the monitor can u pass ur discord if im not going to bother you ?
@hmmmmm8716
@hmmmmm8716 2 жыл бұрын
I upgraded from 60 hz to 144 and it's mind breaking how weirdly better it is
@padeiroPorAmor
@padeiroPorAmor 3 жыл бұрын
dude i need you reviewing that viewsonic blur busters recommended monitor, i really worry about 1080p in a 27 inch, but all the zowie do good that monitor seem do better with IPS panel. please try to do it
@DavidSoeiro
@DavidSoeiro 5 ай бұрын
Thanks for the video. Does what is said in the video still apply to QD-Oled Gen 3 monitors ? I'm asking because I'm hesitating between a 27" 1440p 360hz (MSI MPG 271QRX) and a 4K 240hz (MSI MPG 321URX). Thank you
@lordprime.12
@lordprime.12 3 жыл бұрын
me: why I downgraded from 60hz to a 30hz
@jnx4803
@jnx4803 Жыл бұрын
As far as I remember the biggest gain is when going from 60 to 144, and after that each "gain" is smaller, and smaller. 165Hz probably is the ultimate middle ground.
@patthonsirilim5739
@patthonsirilim5739 Жыл бұрын
im running 3440x1440p ultrawide ips with g sync at 120hz and it feels smooth as hell coming from an ips 60fps 1980x1080p monitor to me that is the sweet spot for me i rather have better picture quality and wider screen then any faster fps.
@csguak
@csguak Жыл бұрын
No need to limit yourself like that, people who get used to 240hz and above cannot go back. Their brain has been expanded and changed forever. Human eye is capable of so much, I can only be excited for what the future technology will bring.
@thebabyshpee6508
@thebabyshpee6508 3 жыл бұрын
He reviews tech and he's actually good at fps games. As an overwatch/apex player, you have my respect.
@masingha9666
@masingha9666 2 жыл бұрын
Does it also not depend on how the games are developed ? What if the game does not produce enough frames per second as the monitor is capable of ?
@TryTane
@TryTane 3 жыл бұрын
First we need a 1440p 240hz with dyac to reach top clarity and maybe then making better and better 360hz monitor
@lemonsqueezexd5468
@lemonsqueezexd5468 3 жыл бұрын
Why I downgraded from Koenigsegg to Pagani
@JackAdams0
@JackAdams0 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Optimum Tech, I have a question. I see a laptop with 240hz refresh rate, but it has 3ms response time. Will that response time be good enough to see the 240 frames per second on its screen?
@kazukiraikou
@kazukiraikou 2 жыл бұрын
since my gpu caps out at 240hz, which of these 2 monitor would be better overall for me? (input &response time as well as visually)? note: I'm debating between the benq zowie xl2546k & the asus rog swift pg259qn
@rujigo69
@rujigo69 3 жыл бұрын
We know it Ali, you made this video as an excuse to show those clean shots
@zedhj8613
@zedhj8613 3 жыл бұрын
Once you upgrade to 120hz or higher it’s honestly difficult to downgrade. The smoothness is quite noticeable.
@MarkoVuckovic32
@MarkoVuckovic32 3 жыл бұрын
I upgraded from 60Hz to 75Hz and honestly even that is a big difference, I can't even imagine how good it gets for higher values. Hopefully I get a chance to try out at least 144Hz
@ySc135
@ySc135 3 жыл бұрын
@@MarkoVuckovic32 144hz are affordable tbh , if you think of what the prices of these 75hz were , its kinda the same around +150 $ so yeah. I currently own a benqXL2411 I bought it for like 180 , was worth and in a week , I upgrade again but this time straight to 360hz
@Jordanthecool7
@Jordanthecool7 2 жыл бұрын
Wrd when I first tried 120 hz it was game changing
@rickardnordin.
@rickardnordin. 2 жыл бұрын
How do you get that ghosting effect on the UFO test? Did you use some recording software or just screenshot? I dont seam to get it when I just screenshot. and i dont have a high end monitor. And what pixel per second speed do you use? :)
@jpap967
@jpap967 Жыл бұрын
Just bought the Asus swift 360hz 1080p for $299 new shipped on Amazon. It went down in price so much that it is curretnyl cheaper than the other 240hz options you mentioned in the video. And actually cheaper than many other 240hz or 280hz options
@chadmcvlad9794
@chadmcvlad9794 3 жыл бұрын
me watching this with a 10 year old monitor:" hmmm, id like anything better"
@jgrier729
@jgrier729 3 жыл бұрын
Dual monitor setup but mine are 13 years old. No display port.... 😀
@rileyhance318
@rileyhance318 3 жыл бұрын
Then buy a new one? These videos are all just ads
@korruption2802
@korruption2802 3 жыл бұрын
@@rileyhance318 hmm never thought of it like that, thanks
@rileyhance318
@rileyhance318 3 жыл бұрын
@@chadmcvlad9794 if only there was some way to make money that had been thought of already. started with a j or something. oh its jonlyfans
@TheGgbk
@TheGgbk 3 жыл бұрын
is it a CRT?
@Acehan
@Acehan 3 жыл бұрын
I’d love to see a GSYNC video from your channel, as I believe it is the best way to make the most of your monitor. I think GSYNC is quite underrated. The difference it makes is massive with motion clarity and smoothness, even compared to most uncapped, high framerate shenanigans.
@TheSilviu8x
@TheSilviu8x 3 жыл бұрын
All of those monitors are Gsync compatible and that's the holle point... 360hz is a bit to fast, to soon.
@kapilr.4768
@kapilr.4768 3 жыл бұрын
Dyac and g sync don't work at the same time. Lg has similar tech like dyac called 1ms MBR it's too backlight like dyac.
@phitky7404
@phitky7404 3 жыл бұрын
I think gsync also adds some input lag
@MLWJ1993
@MLWJ1993 3 жыл бұрын
@Dihydrogen Monoxide it actually doesn't. Just V-sync that would cap your framerate to max refresh rate of your display, pure g-sync will just not kick in at framerates above max refresh rate.
@MLWJ1993
@MLWJ1993 3 жыл бұрын
@Dihydrogen Monoxide proof?
@ohmycalul8984
@ohmycalul8984 3 жыл бұрын
You compare 360 HZ "normal oc" with the others being higher oced? Would be cool to see the difference on the Extreme OC since the Asus does not really get hit much while using it atleast mine does not
@Ronaldo-yv7bg
@Ronaldo-yv7bg 3 жыл бұрын
And about LG 27GK750F? This monitor has 240hz and LG 1ms motion blur reduction technology, providing the same feature that keeps sudden frames changes more smooth. Is there any review about this monitor? It's almost 1/2 of the Dyac Benq's price here in Brazil.
540Hz gaming is something else.
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