Have you tried the Radiomaster uart flasher yet? I have had really difficult ELRS recievers in the past, that wouldn't flash . I brought them back into service with this tool.

You are welcome, and welcome back !

Thanks Mike, appreciate it. Glad you are getting the most out of ELRS

You are welcome!

Thank you 🙏🏻

🙏 thank you!

Glad it was helpful!

Gotta do what’s right for you

Thanks josiph, appreciate the support

I’m glad that example helped you

Have you got a link to the project?

@@DarrenAllatt Only thing I have is Jye's video and what has said along with Ian (Mads Tech) kzfaq.info/get/bejne/jMlzaJOUvZnFZ3k.html

Boom! That is perfection.

If it’s working for you and you don’t have issues, then no need to change it.

@@DarrenAllatt especially since Radiomaster doesn't offer a transparent shell. Spraying the shell from the inside looks damn cool. Neon green Mambo ftw

​@Ra Kr love it. Got my Green Tango 2 too 💚 holla if you need clear shells, got them innstock

Same, had alot of failsafes in ELRS, and none on Crossfire.

@@Fly_High_FPV Me too, many failsafes in ELRS, one in many years with crossfire. Watch some KZfaq videos and you see them happening all the time.

Sorry I couldnt find the song in the video and its not in my timeline because I have have done something funky

Same major version number 2 or 3 on tx module and quad should work. I've left mine at 2.x but will investigate upgrading soon.

Yes it’s absolutely safe to upgrade to 3.2. You are probably getting that message as you don’t have a binding phrase on anything at the moment.

If it ain’t broke don’t fix it.

@@eturnerx Thank you!

@@DarrenAllatt Thanks. As I haven't seen any improvements that I want I'll probably leave it at that. How do I find out which version my BNF uses?

That’s like talking to someone in 1908 who believes horses were better then cars

Ive been using ELRS exclusively for the last year and its been completely reliable regardless of the distance

So help me out here, my idea was that I was going to find some 1.2-1.3 ghz vtx to place on a heavily modified and losi nightcrawler. Which would transmit back to an 80' tower I've built, at that point I would dump the signal over into a 5.8 ghz vtx then trasmit that signal where indoors i have a 5.8 ghz receiver attached to a 55" tv.. does this crossfire or elrs tranmit video or is it just used for operational control of the vehicle?

You can use any brand of ExpressLRS hardware as long as it’s the same frequency ie 2.4ghz and same major firmware version ie 3.x

@@DarrenAllatt thanks for the first response, I appreciate it…

It’s a great daily!

What? Excuse my lack of knowledge. You can flash ELRS on this module? Anyone here tested this? Very interested...

@@vicman579 yes you can! In the early days of elrs, it was a little complicated, first you had to flash the bootloader , and then compile and flash the firmware, but I'm pretty sure that you can do it now directly in elrs configurator, and also if you look at RX units, you can find 915 mhz elrs units.... Like I said though, I never tried mine, but from what I've seen online it works great, way better than the original R9 module ever did 😎

@@sunsetpark_fpv Will check more into this! Thanks!!!

@@vicman579 yes you can flash Frsky R9 with ExpressLRS, but its a hassle and it was the thing before you could easily buy ELRS products.

You can fail safe on any system, including crossfire. I don’t know your antenna setup on your radio or drone; it also depends on which direction you are flying; did you fly into a null point of your antenna? If you get your antenna set up on crossfire wrong, you’re going to failsafe as well, or, if you fly into the antennas null point If you increase power output and decrease packet you get more range and penetration ELRS has both 2.4ghz and 900mhz - just depends on which hardware you have So getting ELRS 900mhz put you on the same frequency as crossfire I don’t experience fail safe with espressLRS I’m not gonna tell you which system to buy, especially if you’re gonna be flying cinema rigs because I don’t want you to come back and say what I told you to buy this and you had a fail safe, and I lost your drone What you should do is buy both preferably secondhand test each and see what you’re more comfortable with

For sure, just wanna know your first hand experience with failsafes since you have a lot more time on the setup. Mine on the five inch happened right after take-off luckily. Three meters away and thank God just a meter or two off the ground. Otherwise it has been going great really. I also would love to stick with ELRS. Like you said Crossfire means another module that I have to plug on the bay. I'll read about antennas null point now that you mention it. Thanks for the input! @@DarrenAllatt

@@menalendrathe other thing is, how do you know it was a fail safe and not an ESC de-sync? What’s your build like? Did you have your antenna on, how was your antenna facing? There are a lot of variables Best to just spend time in the air to see what it’s like

@@DarrenAllatt its HGLRC F722 with Tmotor Velox 45A v2 BL32 with Xing2 2207 1750 motors. I put the RP1 T-antenna horizontally on the rear tpu the volador frame provided. My rx antrnna I ran horizontal as well that day. Man you are right it could also be esc desync now that I read about it?? Basically I suddenly just lost control of the quad right after take off and it flipped on the air and fell. I then disconnected and reconnect the LiPo to restart and all is well again. Sorry Im such a newb Darren 😂 But yes I will have to keep note as it hasnt happened again and it really just happened that one time.

Thanks Bruce. 😂

Not that I know of, I guess you possibly could. How far are you planning on going that you need a repeater?

Agreed!

@@DarrenAllatt actually another good point to consider is availability. I live in Asia and it is insanely hard to get anything like crossfire without emptying a wallet and waiting months. But happymodel easily ships here and elrs rx and tx cost significantly cheaper here. I remmeber getting an rx for$10 and a 250mw TX for $20

@@sticky_ricebowl excellent point!

You’re right about size… until you compare 900hz ELRS to 900hz XF… that would be a more fair comparison, I think.

@@ChrisGripeos you are right it is a more direct comparison. However, the buying choice for pilots is ELRS 2.4 vs Crossfire - hence the comparison.

Both Crossfire and ELRS are just control on 2.4ghz

Which vehicle? Betaflight OSD solves that

Yes you should have more range & penetration with the Mini T on ELRS. However that sort of range with Crossfire, even on the Mini T is not normal. Check your antenna polarisation to make sure they’re aligned and also that both RX and TX are on the same frequency.

@@DarrenAllatt I'm aware of this. I know that mini T antenna on crossfire is made for 915 and in EU we need to use 868mhz so...

Multi GP only permits up to 6S so trying 8S for racing is a moot point.

You will need to check the manual for the O3 Air Unit and the Skystar flight controller to ensure the pin out is the same.

ExpressLRS is primarily written by Australian developers But If you are worried about companies giving money to the CCP, then FPV is not for you. Your FC, ESC, Motors, VTX are all as you say, produced by companies which give money to the CCP. So that argument of yours is void. If you are getting horrible range with ELRS, there’s something not right with your setup. What transmitter and receivers are you using? Ps, Ghost isn’t made in Croatia - it’s developed there; manufactured in Shenzen, so the ODM making the hardware, giving money to CCP. All that being said, if you are finding something is working for you - go for it

@@DarrenAllatt I had a HM24TX that I bought with EP1 and EP2 Rx's. I was getting a dbm of -110 at a low packet rate at 100mw only 50 meters away from me even with EP1's, with link quality dropping below 40/100. I confirmed the antenna was correct, was the correct connector, (no mismatching of RPSMA and SMA,) and continuity tested the UFL connector on the board, and used at least 4 different RX's with no change. I had 3/5 RX's die either from overheating or very, very light crashes in grass on a 65g 3 inch toothpick in a little more than 3 months and threw in the towel. I've been using Ghost for over a year with no failures even at race events and in crashes where I have written off my drone.

Did you delete my other comment?

TLDR for my comment that disappeared, all my gear is either made in croatia via orqa and ghost, or second hand. I have not bought any new fpv gear including batteries for 3 years. the Orqa website confirms ghost is made in the EU

@@dankusmemus2350 no, you posted a link to a Captain Drone video, I have URL's in comments blocked to prevent spa,

I don't have experience with Matek RX's but I have used extensively HappyModel and now using Radiomaster RX's... Getting bad RX's from one manufacturer is one of 'cons' of Open Source.

Absolutely!

Cool story bro

@@creationlabsinc.189 it seems you are just going through the comments and trolling.

I’ve done mountain surfing 4km away from me using 50hz dynamic power ELRS. No problems at all. I think it hit 500mw for a few seconds but mostly stayed at 250mw.

That’s a placebo. Most pilots claim they can tell the difference between 50hz and 500hz packet rates, but in a blind test - they can’t and won’t be able to tell.

@@DarrenAllatt That is so true i have done that test with crossfire 50 - 150 and every person i did that test with got it wrong the brain cant comprehend the difference so its a placebo

@@grampafpv8013 if Stingerswam and Bardwell can’t tell, what’s to say, as you’ve confirmed - the average pilot can

@@DarrenAllatt i don't think anybody can to tell you the truth

Chances are, what you’ve heard about it not working is probably more user error than anything else. But, if you are loving crossfire and it’s not broken, don’t fix it.

@@DarrenAllatt problems all day in ELRS in my experience. Went back to crossfire after 6 months

Hey JD, always appreciate your input! That's a problem with Open Source, not necessarily an ELRS issue, but part of the ELRS ecosystem.

Agreed!

Agreed

no where else it belongs!

Hahaha. You couldn’t be more wrong if you tried

@@DarrenAllatt 😆

I focus purely on FPV, drones, and not model planes planes, so dragonlink is well outside of my required use case

I disagree. If you want to update crossfire to the latest version other than what’s on your TX, then you run into issues with crossfire.

@@DarrenAllatt You need to update the information in your head about crossfire. Never an issue with updating period! I have 15 drones on crossfire and it is a joy to bind and update. I do like the binding phrase in ELRS. ELRS you have to know all the steps and procedures to get it working. Once I learned an okay process, but the receiver updates in the configuration they are not all correct, names not correct and missing some receiver versions. Crossfire takes me less than 3 minutes to solder and bind and update. ELRS...well let's say at least 15 minutes.

@@JDDupuy that's where we get into the pro's and con's of Open Source vs Closed Source. My information on crossfire is current. I still have a Transmitter and Receiver that I use for reviews and testing

@@JDDupuy I’ll admit it does take longer to configure elrs but calling binding/updating crossfire a joy is a stretch imo.

@@DarrenAllatt never been an issue for me in 5 years on crossfire

Which was my key point at the very beginning it’s not about what is best news about what is best for you

@@DarrenAllatt you say that but the “fanboy” remark was without a doubt a slam at the crossfire users.

@@creationlabsinc.189 how did you arrive at the conclusion it was “a slam at the crossfire users”

Hey Larry, I really appreciate you taking the time to write such a detailed comment. But, there are some things that need addressing in your comment. Frsky pronunciation. According to FrSky's own documentation, 'Welcome to Taranis', link at the bottom of this comment, Frsky themselves state "FrSky (pronounced Free Sky)" not F R Sky. Cost of the WHOLE Fleet. I do agree someone isn't going to do their whole fleet at once, however what I was implying was that over a whole fleet the cost ads up, even if you acquire your fleet incrementally like I have; hence why I stated that are $11 per quad difference doesn't seem like much, but ads up over the whole fleet. This IS an ELRS sales pitch period. Well the video is titled "Why I fly ExpressLRS not Crossfire" and I do state at the very beginning, you need work out what is best for you, and it's clear that these are my reasons for flying ExpressLRS. If you thought this was going to be a purely objective and statement of facts of the differences between the two, well, you have really misinterpreted both the Thumbnail and Video which make it clear this is MY PERSONAL reasons. FlySky and ExpressLRS Sorry, you are wrong here. FlySky is capable of Frequency Shift Keying like Crossfire, Amplitude Shift Keying like Free Sky as well as Gaussian Shift Keying. Also the chipsets used in the Transmitters and Receivers for FlySky are not the same used by ELRS. ELRS uses the SX1280, while none of the FlySky chips (ATmega328P, Si4432, CC2500, CYRF6936 or nRF24L01+) have LoRA capabilities. ExpressLRS hardware is garbage, Radio's ouput the stated power levels etc That's your personal opinion, it doesn't sound like you have first hand experience with it, so it's not really fair to pass judgement on something you haven't actually used. Crossfire is Superior to ExpressLRS If you judge a fish to climb a tree, then a monkey is superior to a fish. Well, no. Stating Crossfire is superior is your own opinion, it's not objectively superior because it has limitations (such as packet rates) that ELRS doesn't. Again, as I have said, not one system is better than the other, it's what is best for your needs. It sounds like you are someone who needs whatevever it is that Crossfire gives you, awesome, but that doesn't make Crossfire objectively superior. FkySky doesn't send 1's and 0's The whole point of the analogy and explanation using simple language was so the average pilot who this video is for, can understand the basic concepts of. That being said, Frsky (Free Sky) sends a digital signal, it doesn't send analog signals, thus it is sending 1's and 0's using Amplitude Shift Keying. Update System between ExpressLRS and Crossfire You are mainly referring to the OTA update from the Transmitter to the Receiver, I admit, that's cool; however if you want to run the latest version of Crossfire, you have to update your Transmitter. How you update your Transmitter is, you guessed it, the same as flashing an ExpressLRS transmitter. You have to connect your TX to Agent M, then after that's updated, you have to then update each of your receivers. So objectively, the same difficulty. Frsky - "Welcome to Taranis" www.frsky-rc.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/Manual/Quickstart%20Guide%20for%20FrSky%20Taranis%20with%20OpenTX.pdf

@@DarrenAllatt u don't have to update your receivers in xfire, it just does it (with your eyes closed). Yes I use all five protocols (Flysky,R9M, FRsky, xfire, elrs) Flysky (sorry your accent may for FR sky or freesky) sounded like flysky) and as far as range and penetration yes xfire is better. I have the 1w Beta FPV module in my T16 and will do some range testing to get a mile away around the other side of a hill (Flysky 2.4 no prob). But if your looking for a good lightweight receiver/antenna combo can't beat elrs. One of my biggest frustration was spending 7 hours trying to get a betafpv superd diversity to update via usb, it would never get started with transfer. Turns out that the 2 reviver chips pulled too much power for the usb to function, wound using battery and wifi'd it. what a mess, xfire would have did it all for me. U gotta love this stuff.

@@fpvkabo well, your experience with the betafpv super d, that’s an issue with open source stuff because some manufacturers have quality issues, betafpv is known for it. While crossfire, tbs and only tbs make it. To update your crossfire receivers, you need to update your TX first, then when they connect you have to update them. Crossfire can do that because there is only 1 firmware target, while ELRS every rx has a different target. So not magic, benefit of closed source.

My crossfire just says updating receiver automatically, I believe there is enough flash in the xfire TX to store the itty bitty different receivers flash, all I need to do is update 1 thing, and the rest of receivers are updated as u connect. Neither of the superd's were deflective just drew too much power, got 2 both did the same, but updated when battery was plugged in and did a wireless update. Having 1 manufacture (if they insist on quality) is better for the consumer. So many manufactures of elrs introduce so many different kinds of problems, not just defects, but different implementations on led behavior and binding differences just to name a few. Different manufactures read the specifications and interpret them differently leading to pain in the arse for the customer.

you know, you can skip that section Timmy

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