I know I’m a bit hard on the Legion here (it’s still an awesome laptop!) but keep in mind y’all that the title of the video is “Why I’m Returning The Legion 5 Pro”. A lot of these things are just my preference and you might think completely opposite to me, and that’s okay. This video comes from the perspective of me as a G15 owner who was expecting to be blown away by the performance of the L5P based on the insane amount of hype surrounding it. I have my preferences and to me it was a bit underwhelming for the loss of premium features and portability. I prefer the G15 after testing both so I’m keeping it. These are all just my observations after spending weeks using both laptops. Now stop hating, lol.

at my location zephyrus g15 costs 2100 usd with rtx 3060 and legion 5 pro costs 1800 usd with rtx 3060. The choice was obvious and i went for the 5 pro. Pretty happy with the purchase.

Man, I can't stress enough how helpful videos like these are. I especially like that you're touching on things that seemingly nobody talks about, but are really important when you're actually planning on buying and keeping the device.

Thanks for a more realistic comparison pointing out the differences in resolution as this is most of the time ignored by other content creators. It makes a massive difference to the individual if they care for resolution or frames and therefore I like how you give pros and cons. Screens cannot be compared by any single measure. Overall great indepth review for your quick version

I'm keeping my L5P because it was few hundred cheaper in EU (yeah, Asus prices are pretty high here). Also I need the webcam and don't really mind the laptop it being a bit bulky. Also I use the laptop screen when gaming so the mux switch is pretty essential. Also I just upgraded my RAM to 32GB with higher better while being full speed dual channel, can't do that on the Asus.

I really appreciate the review of things like the actual feel and performance of the machines. I can get the specs online. This was very helful!

For some reason all G15s I have available come with the 1080p screen and now I don't mind, gonna take extra fps without extra blurriness and use my external 1440p display when possible anyway. Thanks for the tests.

The G15 would be the perfect laptop for the price if it had a webcam and that RAM module wasn't baked into the motherboard. It definitely has its advantages, as you adeptly pointed out in this vid. The biggest advantage is its portability, which is basically what laptops are all about, even when it comes to gaming laptops. That being said, I'm ok with the compromised portability of the Legion 5 pro because I'm not toting it around in a backpack. As long as I can get it in a carrying bag and get it in the trunk of my car, I'm ok with it. For others, that better portability of the G15 is a must.

At the the supply is very short in different countries, I tried to get Strix G15 or Regular G14 but there were no stock available if someone has they are asking around 2100 USD for rtx 3060 & I got legion 5pro for 1800 USD & I'm very happy with it considering 300 to 400 USD Difference

Great videos comparing these two! For the G15, does the external monitor need to be plugged in a specific way to get the dedicated effect? (DP, HDMI, etc.) And does the laptop screen need to be turned off as well?

In the future, games will support upscaling a lot more often. So I do not agree on not comparing with identical resolutions. DLSS and/or FSR are already supported in many games and I believe future updates will bring that to many more games. In the future, native resolution will be much more irrelevant, which is why I opted for higher than 1080p resolution for a gaming laptop. I find it very logical to compare using same resolution.

Amazing video man . Just the video I was looking for . Keep it up 💪😎🔥🔥🔥

This review is amazing!!! This is exactly the information I was looking for with the G15. Tyvm

Hi, since the Zephyrus G15 has a similar ventilation placement to the Zephyrus M16, isn't it concerning that the hot air is blowing into the screen? I was going to purchase the M16 because of its thin design and nice specs, but this aspect of the screen heating and its thermals is troubling me, so I'm thinking of going with the L5P.

For me having a number pad I thought was going to be a deal breaker until a realize how little I use it. The G15 has an amazing trackpad and display. Also is is ultra portable for a gaming laptop. It is the best balance in terms of performance and battery life. I don’t know about the legion but the zephyrus is a good laptop overall and is one of the best laptops period

Interesting review Josh. Well done. Like your way of presenting things.

Insane comparison, please more comparisons!

Interesting comparison. It's definitely a preference thing at the end of the day. I just bought the Pro and I'm intent on sticking with the purchase. I'd be using it for gaming, academic work, running intense programs. I like the old school design and bulk makes it feel strong haha. Also using external keyboard and mouse, never like laptop keys and pad anyway. Maybe I'd reconsider for the G15 if it wasn't more expensive than the Legion, from my perspective it makes no sense on getting a smaller, slower machine for a greater price.

Tldr from all these comments: G15 is the better laptop if you care about portability, battery life, taking it around. L5 pro is better if you are mainly using it plugged in AND you are going with either 32GB from factory or are going to upgrade your stock 1xR16 to 1xR8 ram ... The way you will use your laptop is different than the way Josh will use his laptop. The L5 pro may be a better fit for you but that doesn't mean it's a better laptop for Josh, and vice versa. Even if his L5 Pro came with the better 1xR8 ram the perforance increase may not be enough to offset the other limitations ..

Ayo, Ngl this video is super detailed on both sides of the laptops and I am highly impressed with the descriptions and ( memes ) categories as well, What I love about this video is mainly what is our preferences between these laptops, Excellent video!

I started hating this review at first, but everything summed up nicely at the end making this quite an accurate and fair review... I just wish I had watched it before :(

I have the Asus TUF 4800H/RTX2060 version. I would strongly recommend repasting if you intend to keep it. My paste was 100% dry on the cpu and gpu in so much that a paper towel wipe removed nothing at all. My idle temp was 70°C before repasting and adding thermal pads.

The weight issue of legion 5 pro is something remarkable, you can't just carry this beast or if you're usually put on a lap isn't work, but beside of all it's precisely great for me.

Great video Josh. I was on the fence which one to pick up and this video really helped.

Thank You very much! This is exactly what I needed to hear.

My G15 had 1RX16 memory soldered to the motherboard, same tRFC but slower when I compared aida64 with Jarrod's legion 5 pro video. I know that the difference in performance because of this is minimal but still all units should have the same ram since you can't upgrade the soldered one. Not including a webcam was not a good move from asus. If asus made the m16 with ryzen cpu and fully upgradable ram then that would've been the best laptop period. So I returned mine to get the legion 7. I really wanted to keep the g15 but the ram and the absence of a webcam didn't sit right with me.

For most people, Legion 5 Pro offers the best feature set and the least amount of compromise (MUX Switch, both RAMs upgradeable, has a Webcam, superior customer support service and warranty, etc.). All these options gives the Legion 5 Pro better future proofing than the G15 because once your soldered RAM goes caput within your 1 year warranty, no matter how small of a chance that is, you're SOL. Meanwhile, Ultimate Legion support can extend up to 4 years and you can get Accidental Damage Support for only $20 and if you accidentally break your laptop, they'll replace the whole system at least once. You also forgot to mention that the G15 uses liquid metal for the CPU and is the only reason why it's running much cooler. Somebody in reddit modified their Legion 5 Pro with liquid metal and got the same, if not, better than your CPU temps. Now repaste your G15 with regular thermal paste and see how much hotter it gets.

I love Jared’s tec videos and vary thankful you are directing comparing these

Thank you for clearing my doubts soo much confusing between both I will go for g15 ❤️❤️❤️😢

I'm with you on pretty much everything great comparison video. One thing I think is questionable is the CPU temperature comparison. I think there's probably another confounding variable that was missed because the temperature differences in this video seem to be outliers to other reviews. Either way good stuff.

Love this review, because you highlighted the differences in the audio speakers. Since most reviewers say the Asus has the better sound quality, I'm now looking at the G15.

Subscribed just bcoz of this comparison, especially the explaination regarding the dGPU and hybrid mode. Thank you so much for this perfectly timed video as I was gonna pull the trigger on L5P coz I was bombarded with so many positive reviews for L5P everywhere. I'll just wait for the new versions of G14s to release with a MUX switch. Will you do reviews/comparison video comparing the old vs new model?

WHAT A REVIEW and good editing! im amazed, wish i could like the video 10x!

I love the random images with white background

lenovo legion 5 is perfect for engineering students, I love the non gaming design for sure. The machine is crazy strong.

Nice comparison! Keep at it 👏🏼

Thanks for such a refreshing video. Informative, and to the point. I've subscribed to your channel.

I think you're a bit biased here. I just bought the Legion 5 Gen 6 2021 model with RTX 3060 130W and Ryzen 5800H but it has 1080p. I was getting Zephyrus for the same price but here's why I skipped it. 1. 1080p and 1440p aren't really noticable on 15' screens. Real difference starts to show at 24'. Most of the content online still doesn't support 1440p. KZfaq also has 1440 on very few videos. Your own video has 1080p max. Netflix has 1080p and 4K. Playing 1080p videos on 1440p screen doesn't look as good as 1080p on native resolution screen especially on 15' screen size. 2. Now, coming to the gaming. Competitive games demand frame rates so 1080p native is better. Story mode games are best experienced on bigger screens. On 15' 1080p and 1440p won't make much difference. 1440p instead will reduce frame rates and then add the fact that Zephyrus has 95W TGP and no MUX compared to Legion 5. To enjoy story modes the best, use an external monitor. Using external monitors, this "native" dilemma goes away and you're at the same resolution on both the laptops. 3060 130W shines here and having it is an advantage. Your tests were not exhaustive but play graphically intensive games like Metro Exodus and Cyberpunk at ultra settings on higher resolution monitors and compare 130W vs 90W on the same resolution. You'll see the differece. Even getting 10 more frames in Cyberpunk from 49 to 60 makes a huge difference. 3. Speakers: Not a big deal since laptop speakers aren't enough anyway for 5 people sitting in a room. I had JBL speakers in my previous laptop with great sound but they were still not enough when I had to show someone a video sitting 5 feet away from me. Bluetooth speakers to the rescue. 4. Battery life: Zephyrus has an advantage here. Legion 5 Gen 6 1080p is giving 6-7 hours but Zephyrus gives 10. That's the compromise. You don't game and switch to productivity every 5 minutes. So adjusting settings on Legion to get those 7 hours isn't as big a hassle as you show it to be. Barely takes 1 minute to open Vantage and windows control panel when you're finally setting up for gaming. But Zephyrus wins in battery department and portability hands down. Although, most youtubers in my region are showing that Zyphyrus is giving 5-6 hrs of KZfaq browsing. Idk what's true. Why I chose Legion 5 then? 1080p giving better frame rates in native resolution for gaming. In the near future, you won't be able to play many titles in 1440p easily. 1080p will come to the rescue then. An available MUX switch without a need of buying an external monitor. A dedicated camera without the need of carrrying one around all the time, it's a bigger hassle than setting up Legion on 60Hz and quiet mode for better battery life. You have an immediate call, where would you adjust the phone on the canteen table or a library with Zephyrus for the front camera? Better TGP GPU is going to be more future proof. An option to upgrade dual channel RAM. 10 years ago 4GB was enough. 5 years ago 8GB was enough. Now it's 16GB. Dual channel is the way to go. My Legion shipped with the faster 1xR8 RAM fortunetely. I think they've rectified this problem now. I'm not saying Legion is better or Zephyrus is better. Both have their own pros and cons but the way you're thrashing Legion and praising Zephyrus seemed like a lot of exaggeration to me.

I recently bought the Zephyrus G15 to replace my 4 year old MSI GT72VR behemoth. While I did totally love that MSI laptop it was really a pain in the ass to travel with. I took it on two deployments and several short TDY trips. The weight and ancient design of it were just annoying to deal with. it weighed over 12 lbs in a backpack with all the accessories and was a total backbreaker. It had a terrible trackpad too. The Zephyrus is better in every way. It feels premium, looks premium and performs premium. It's less than half the total weight of the MSI system and outperforms it too (of course since it's 4 years newer, but still) I'm very happy with the Zephyrus G15

I've been using my legion 5 for a couple of days now but decided to return it. the thing is i installed a shit ton of things and I'm wondering if this will affect my return process, do you know if lenovo will freshly install the whole pc or do we have to do it ourselves? If so, do you know any good guides or KZfaq videos that would be helpful? Thanks.

I like the funny images you sprinkle throughout your videos! If you're a frame chaser, you can flash a vBIOS on the G15 to get 140 watts to the GPU. I'm a tweaker (of laptops, not meth), so I've done some stuff to my M16 to improve thermals and performance (modifications to the frame, audio and cooling systems), but I've found stock performance to be fine, so I haven't overclocked or flashed the vBIOS or anything.

Hello! I've already purchased L5p (the 3070 one) and it'll arrive in a few days. I've found this video just now. I'm a newbie to these kinda things so before the purchase was made I haven't looked at many in depth comparisons among the similar spec laptops. I actually went with a laptop because the desktop variants of the same hardware are a lot more expensive (prebuilt or not) and most importantly, non existent in these times. I know that the mobile versions of these CPUs and GPUs are considerably slower but I just wanted the best of the available options. So basically I've bought this just to play games and usual laptop stuff like browsing, content consumption and all. It'll just sit on my desk and I'll use it plugged in all the time just like any other non gaming laptop I've ever used. Most of the reviewers praised this laptop plenty and ofcourse mentioned few cons here and there just like they would for any other laptop. The very few "features" I've considered that made me choose L5p over the others are that it's got a good display (the reviewers think so anyway) and that it's got hdmi 2.1 and I've noticed that the other laptops don't. So I thought I could play some of my favourite older games on our lg oled at 4k and I was okay with lower settings and fps as long as they're playable (very amateur reasoning probably and now that I think about it Idk what kind of compatibility issues I'll have to deal with regarding hdmi 2.1). In the videos I've watched, I've noticed that the performance was pretty similar to other laptops with similar specs. I'm not a hard-core gamer and I'm more into open world single player titles and story mode titles so I'm okay with playable okay-ish framerate. Sorry for making you read something this long and boring. I just wanted to let you know my perspective so as to ask your opinion on my purchase, whether it's a bad one or not and whether it's alright for my needs because it's too late for me to consider returning it for other options as I burned my brother's money for this and I prefer not to make him mad at me for changing my mind after the purchase😅. Plus the return/replace policy isn't so good where I live. As you've noticed already English isn't my first language so I hope you've understood everything I've wanted to convey.

16 : 10 and cheaper price made the Pro an easy choice. Got it for 1500 USD a week ago. With the 3070, 16gb and 1tb m.2. Its not my gaming rig (10850k and 3090) but this will be awesome for traveling.

i liked a lot about the L5P i've been testing but decided to return it today. So you're saying the G15 runs fairly silently in silent mode? and there's asus software that uses your phone as a webcam? thanks-- cool vid :)

Considering these two as a desktop replacement, plugged into two monitors (via some kind of hub I think?) on my desk 90% of the time. I was sold on g15 until I saw the comment on cooling and needing to keep the laptop open because the vents are facing up. That seems cumbersome, more dust on screen, more likely to get damaged, etc. Am I just overthinking it and practically its no big deal?

I purchased the G15 in India (RTX 3060) because of some of the reasons you mentioned. My unit had a poor fit for the display panel and overnight the panel stopped working. This was within 48 hours of delivery. Now, after 10 days, I'm still waiting for a technical check and return or replace. I have been scarred by ASUS now. I have been a Lenovo customer for 12 years. I hope my replaced unit doesn't have issues.

i still prefer the legion but i understood all your points and your decision, great video

I just add to subscribe your channel because of your honest review

This is a good comparison, nothing too technical and upto point. Good work!

Really concise summary - thank you

I am a legion 5 pro owner and when people ask me if I recommend it I typically tell them no. The truth is that when Lenovo added that "pro" tag it really stands for "workstation" or "desktop replacement". The legion 5 pro is a masterclass in knowing your use case. I have a desktop that has all the latest and greatest stuff inside and no reason for a gaming laptop when home. But when I travel for work 50-70% of the year (even during c19) I need a personal computer (not the company) that I can game on run a test server etc. So I upgraded my legion with 8tb of storage and 64gb of ram. When it's setup in my hotel it's always with an external keyboard and mouse (the built in ones drive me up the wall). So I have worked around the issues of the legion 5 pro. If I was only gaming on this laptop and not a portable server then yes the Asus g15 would be king. But based on what I carry with me the legion is kick ass.

Can you help me please ? These are my options 1. Legion 5: Ryzen 5 5600H+RTX3070 at FHD 15.6" 2. Legion 6 Pro: Ryzen 7 5800H+RTX3070 at WQHD (1600p). So keeping in mind that I only intend to use it for games like Warzone and Battlefield and normal net surfing, which model would you recommend me ?

you broke my confusion. Nothing to say, great.❤️❤️❤️

For someone that doesn’t post so much on here, you did a very good job on the editing and your points where fantastic. Before watching this video, I was already beginning to consider the Legion 5 Pro and wondering how I’d have to cope with the sub par battery life but your video set me straight. The G15 it shall be.

i was really thinking in getting lenovo all the time but after alot of research and even with g15 having not mux switch, i decide to buy the g15 and dam i dont regret it i love it its perfect for anything, gaming, battery and all :) i got the 300hz 1080p one ( even i can try with amd virtual super resolution at 1440p )

Excellent review

You deserve more subs dude. Keep up

All this video made me do is decide the legion is definitely the better laptop.

I really liked the editing and style of the video hope you upload more content like this. also at 16" is 1440p actually noticeable for you in games (I currently play at 720P and am planning to upgrade rtx3070 but don't know if there's an actual difference as people claim) would you recommend taking the performance hit and going for a 1440P panel or get a high refresh 1080P panel

Bro I’m a new fan you deserve way more views and subs keep it going you are gonna make it no cap bro ❤️

How is L5P as a desktop? Does it overhe at often when playing games? I just wanna know before buying this because I plan to use it for a few years ...

It's almost impossible to find a 3060 G15 anywhere and even more so sales of it when L5P has supplies, although longer wait, and sales. I'm kinda forced into L5P bc I can buy it for $1300 (after tax) with all the sales while G15 is nowhere near that.

My only regret was that I didn't get a better GPU. My Legion has the RTX 2060 (6GB GDDR6). No slouch, but still I'm missing out on FPS's and overall headroom. I did upgrade mine to 64GB RAM and that helped out a lot. Side by side you might notices some differences, likes and preferences, but regardless these are the only 2 brands I'd buy a gaming laptop from. If you don't try to compare them, you'll be happy with whichever you get. That said this comparison is not exact apples to apples to begin with because of the processor difference.

Great comparison video Josh. Quick question, you touched on portability, but how do the touchpad/trackpad on the G15 and Legion 5 Pro compare? There are times when I simply need to send an email to my boss or submit my timecard at home, so being able to quickly do that without having to power on the mouse etc would be nice. I know some laptops have absolute trash touchpads.

Your review is realistic that applies for most of the population. Really liked that. Thanks.

I consider a crime to have the ac input in the side, Legion back panel for outpup is perfect for a desktop setup

Thank you for doing this. Now to wait for black Friday for the g15. Hoping to have no QC issues

Hi Josh!! Great review! For my personal needs, I’m considering the Lenovo. I want it with Ryzen 7 5800x, rtx 3060 and 32gb Ram upgrade. That being said, I’m not sure if I should get the Legion 5 or 5 Pro, because in my country the 5Pro it’s quite more expensive. The 16:10 screen is the only difference? Do you think I should pay the extra cash for the 5Pro version? Thanks a lot!!

God, finally the best review I have found on KZfaq After 3 weeks

Hmm, I'm not sure what to say about this since it's kinda all over the place, but I do understand that you prefer Asus Zephyrus G15 due to it being more portable (lightweight and slightly smaller), better speakers, touchpad, software and battery life. In the end of the day, it's all up to you on what kind of trade-offs you're fine to live with, as long as you felt comfortable to use it daily. But I do have to wonder on what kind of tool you used to measure the FPS for games? Cause I personally use MSI Afterburner (+ Rivatuner) for precise FPS measurement (as it's done by a lot of PC reviewer), and I'm not sure how good is Nvidia's own FPS counter. Also, having 40% more TDP doesn't mean 40% more performance, with that said, the Legion 5 Pro is still a great gaming laptop if you're not moving around a lot and don't have an external monitor. But I do recommend to get at least a laptop stand or cooling pad if you're using Legion 5 Pro on that one place (which I think you forgot to say about the G15, which is having ergonomic design which lifts the bottom of the laptop for airflow). If you ask me what laptop I'm using, I got myself the ROG Strix G17 2021 since Legion 5 Pro isn't available at my country 6 months ago.

Most practical video I was really looking for this 2 comparison thanks for making this video hands down g15 is best 👍

Hi Josh, thank you kindly for your informative video without and advice or sponsorship by one of the companies. I never owned a gaming laptop, only had a (gaming) pc till now. I’ve spent days and multiple hours on reviews, fact sheets and opinions. At first I was looking for a (gaming)notebook within the price range of EUR 1200-1600, then it started to go higher with every comparison. I realized to spent at least EUR 1800 or 2000 to have a system which would satisfy me for at least 5 and 6 years. I am not a gamer, would consider myself as an enjoyer, but when I buy something than it has to be the “perfect” choice. I also got my attention on the Lenovo i5 pro, since is really hyped up and goes mainstream at the moment as I noticed it in every comment section on (vs) videos, but I love the unique design of Asus ROG Zeyphyrus series. In terms of power I preferred the Lenovo, since it provides a higher average of FPS by 15% - before I’ve spotted your video. Now I am very curious and really want to know your and others (FREE and NEUTRAL) opinions, since you don’t have any advantage about my decision. Last and not least, there is also Aourus 15 X5 around with an Intel i7 12700H, RTX 3070ti purchasable for EUR 2000, which is the cheapest among of my favorites. What would you recommend and why? I am looking for your answers.

Bruv...wooooow....on point...thank you...plus one subscriber

In France the legion's price is 1500€ and the zephyrus's price is 2300€ there is a big difference between price so it's normal for quality of materials isn't it?

I was planning to buy the le5 pro, but after seeing this video, I've changed my mind. I really don't care too much about weight and appearance. Same with the keyboard + touchpad because I use a separate keyboard and mouse. In terms of price , it is quite similar in my country . The two most important things are performance and temperature. The Le5 pro is highly rated by reviewers in this regard, while the g15 is the exact opposite (lower performance, while higher temperatures). In fact, through your video, it's really impressive about g15 With a machine just for playing csgo and forza horizon 5 , which one should I choose for hardcore gaming ( max graphic and playing for 3-4 hours ) I will be very grateful if you reply

120FPS on Warzone at max settings 1440p RT + DLSS for the G15?? Every single benchmark video from a few months ago has shown Warzone running at way lower frames than that, what settings do you have? Or was it just that the performance was optimized?

Thank you for the comparison video! i am contemplating between Lenovo Legion Slim 7 and ROG Zephyrus M16. i really want to like the Zephyrus M16 because it has a bigger screen and thunderbolt (not sure if i'd end up needing to use an egpu though), but i've seen many comments on videos about its Armoury Crate giving them issues and the laptop being unusable. May i know if you have came across issues with the Armoury Crate too?

Great video! I bought a G15 2 months ago and its been beyond my expectation. I agreed all that you mentioned there. One thing tho I wanted to ask, what app do you use to use your phone as a webcam? I am using the myAsus app, but it's not very consistent, although it works (half of the time). thank you!

This worldwide GPU situation made me not wanna take my gaming laptop for granted I own like 3 gaming desktops but it’s so ridiculous I stopped building and leaned more towards gaming laptops before you say just build it, or they’re not as powerful as desktops or you’re wasting money for a few years first of all it’s just a few years nothing seriously wrong with that and that’s only user error if you bought the wrong laptop to begin with they’ve gotten better over the years and as a dedicated desktop user I would recommend a laptop starting next year I’m selling all my desktops because the scalping no availability for GPUs and getting scammed and no real MSRP really broke me I’d rather be happier with a laptop than stare at something I cannot finish till the world gets better and I highly doubt it’s gonna get better in 2022 so laptops is gonna probably the future

Great comparison Josh. There's a lot of reviewers not stressing how big the Legion PSU is or how noisy those fans are.

Just asking for people's opinions here, do you think the 3060 model of the G15 is worth considering? There's a massive price gap between the 3060 and 3070 model where I live for some reason. Though this might and will probably change as time goes by I'm not sure if I can wait that long so I'd like to know if it's still a good laptop overall

Now I don't know which laptop to go for, The Asus rog scar 15 or the Lenovo Legion 5 Pro

Legion 5 Pro owner here. I have the 3070 and you'll only love this thing for: 1. The majority of the ports are behind, which I prefer the most. 2. Quite silent even playing at ultra. 3. Doesn't have high thermals, so long as you use it where there's adequate ventilation. 4. FPS galore. 5. Aluminum body bodes well for build quality and heat management. 6. Keys feel and type okay for me. 7. Physical switch for the webcam, because spying is bad. 8. If I'm going 15.6" and above, I'd like a numpad with it. This won't be used purely just for gaming and not having a good numpad sucks for doing work. You won't like this for: 1. Washed out HDR (like what you said) 2. Poor sound (idk but almost no bass or nothing at all) 3. Why lift at the gym when you can just bring this? Including the brick. 4. Again, that heavy ass brick. 5. You'll only enjoy using this when it's charging from the wall because most people would use it this way. 6. Subpar battery life outside the wall socket (I get 3 and a half hours max unplugged) 7. If you're into RGB, just get the 7. 8. Lenovo and their shady claims about this coming with an Intel AX210 or equivalent WLAN card, and bad RAM (shortages maybe?), I got this with a Realtek chip. I got mine from the factory with 2 SKHynix 1TB SSD's and 32GB of RAM, so I'm not going to feel getting left behind by every new machine coming out after this, even by the 3080's. Overall, for my use, I'm fine with it and don't see returning/selling mine. It's not like it will be the last laptop you'll buy in your life. But that G15 sure blows this thing out in the portability and unplugged use department. Great review!

So I have couple of questions: -for me webcam is kind of important as I am a college student so I was considering asus m16 but it has Intel processor which is quite weak. Is it worth it, asus m16 has better screen, webcam and thunderbolt 4 while g15 is more powerful. -how about legion 7, is it more portable than 5 pro or g15. It looks more slick but bit expensive.

if u include valorant benchmarks it would be awesome! btw nice video likde it and it was short and so detailed keep the good work up!

I have the 2021 G15 with 3070 and 2021 Legion 7i with 3080. Legion 7i is a better gaming laptop if it gets to be plugged in all the time. If I had to choose one to keep it'd be the G15 for the price, size, battery life and better sound. The G15 does run a lot hotter, especially after prolong gaming, if temp is a deciding factor.

great video! jarrod's game benchmarks lowers the resolution to 1080p, so not native resolution. that's one of my biggest concern for considering these two. I want to see performance at the native resolution. so thanks for showing that! i also prefer G15 but it costs about 15%-20% more from a 5 pro where I'm from. so yeah...

Not sure if you’re still replying to these, but I’ve always wanted the g15, I’ve been recommended the legion but I’ve had some pretty bad experiences with the zephyrous laptops. Specifically the amount of heat they produce, we had to return 2 of them because of the same heating issue that straight up ate the battery and throttled the graphics. But this was with the g14, and just today we visited a Best Buy and I could literally feel both of the zephyrous laptops on display heating the hell out. did you have any of these issues on your g15? If so what did you do to fix them? Ty

Great vid, keep up the work! so i have been thinking for a while and i cant choose gaming laptops im between couple laptops for which is the best so the games that i play the most is csgo or Valorant but especially Valorant because i love it and im having so much fun playing it so my question is that ,which laptop should i buy "Legion 5 Ryzen 7 5800H, RAM 16GB, 1TB SSD, RTX 3070 8GB, 17.3 FHD 144Hz" OR "Legion 5 Pro , Core i7-11800H, RAM 32GB, SSD 1TB, RTX 3060 6GB, 16.0 2K 165Hz" Which do you think would be the best for games like Valorant, how much fps would i get by playing it with full Res and Graphics? I'm a full time Valorant player so i want to buy a good gaming laptop for Playing online fps shooters games such as Apex legends, Csgo, Warzone and especially and mostly Valorant so if u can give me advice for buying which Gaming laptop i would really be happy! i will be waiting for your response? they are both almost 1600$

FINALLY a reveiwer with some common sense. I was really considering the Zephyrus G15 but after some consideration I went with the omen 15 for the 1080p screen lol. I really do appreciate how you look at the pros and cons of these laptops rather than just writing them off as bad since they don't have a full wattage GPU or a mux switch. Great video man :)

And the G15 looks so much better and is smaller. The white version looks way better than any laptop I've ever seen. Love it!

Could you please tell me if the Lenovo Vantage App, can you adjust the fan speed same as MSI or ASUS, or are you stuck with just a slight adjustment on the fan speeds, I have seen may complaints about this in the forums.

Hi! Do you think the strix one could outperform the zephyrus 15? Being that it has Ryzen 9 HX 3070 32 ram and one TB ssd, meaning to use it for video editing fan edits lol lots of AE and plug ins

Guys chill it's a "personal perspective" review. My l5p 3070 is slaying in gaming which is my primary usecase. Ofcourse using external keyboard/mouse. Thermals are acceptable also. Ram upgraded to 32 gig dual rank, running 2*2tb of xpg GAMMIX S70 ssd with that stock heatsink removed. The whole package is just perfect for my use case.

this video is going to get so much flack for doing this comparison, thanks this is exactly what i was looking for

you just changed my mind regarding choosing one of these. I was pro Legion 5, but now ... not so much anymore. thanks!

Keep doing this Josh!

I was pretty convinced that I should get the Legion 5 Pro after watching Jarrod’s videos but this completely changed my mind - thanks a lot for making this!!

Just ordered my g15 yesterday after a lot of consideration and research, for me the portability, better design and the battery life are more important than getting 5-10 more frames. Soldered ram is not something you wanna see in a laptop at this price range but you have to compromise somewhere and 16 gigs is plenty for me for the foreseeable future. I intend to keep this device for a long time say 4-5 years and when we start seeing more thin and light gaming laptops in the market (probably soon) the legion 5 pro will quickly start looking dated. I mean I would be embarrassed to carry around that huge thing with me when there are other options out there. I would have gone for the M 16 but it is way too expensive in my region in comparison to these two. Great video, thanks.

@Josh Cravey i was gonna buy a laptop in best buy but here was a payement problem. Next week i find this laptop for less money since it was on sale, i really don’t understand laptops much but this one was a 3060 not a 3070. It was still all good tho. In robloxit ran 138+ fps with an unlocker since the luncher maxes at 60. In other games that in downloading soon like forza. I seen many videos and im amazed that it was running about 100+ I know really Greatful that payment problem happened since i got this absolute beast. I started seeing reviews yesterday and even tho there is many competition for other laptops. This laptop was having many better performance and is on bar with many laptops. I love your channel and I will see more of your reviews on other laptops or maybe this one. Thank you for making this amazing, well detailed review.