Why LS Engines Destroy LT Engines Still😭 | Explained Ep.1

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@UltimateUltimaRS
@UltimateUltimaRS Жыл бұрын
I didn’t expect to watch this video and see myself building my own engine! Very well done video and very informative. One HUGE thing to mention on LS/LT swaps is the availability and difficulty of tuning the LT engines. The learning curve is much higher and everything is “torque” based in HP tuners for the LT engines. My LT5 has been an absolute pain to tune and while tons of shops say they can tune them, really only Cordes Performance and Advanced Modern Performance seem to have the guys that have really mastered them.
@trentdaddydolla647
@trentdaddydolla647 Жыл бұрын
I've never heard of these companies on the LT scene. Most people say only pray performance and gpi are the only people with that type of knowledge.
@AZ_CRUISING
@AZ_CRUISING Жыл бұрын
​@@trentdaddydolla647 Cordes Performance is here in AZ, they mostly work on LSA/LS9 cars
@Cardiakk
@Cardiakk Жыл бұрын
Vengeance Racing and Late Model Engines are also two or the best LT shops.
@crazyelf44
@crazyelf44 Жыл бұрын
@@AZ_CRUISING Actually ltx cars have been the main focus of our builds for years now. Although we still turn out a lot of lsx cars.
@CordesPerformanceRacing
@CordesPerformanceRacing Жыл бұрын
@@AZ_CRUISING not true. LTX we have dominated here for years and the shop is mostly filled with that.
@kensmechanicalaffair
@kensmechanicalaffair Жыл бұрын
What's so great about the Ls is you can pretty much grab any variety from the junk yard for 500 bucks, slap some cheap turbos on it, and go faster than anything in your general area. It's great.
@konnerkramer329
@konnerkramer329 Жыл бұрын
Yeah and blow that thing up after a few passes
@jonathanramoslexusmaster298
@jonathanramoslexusmaster298 Жыл бұрын
Yea unless some local has a single turbo 2jzgte vvti that’s real spicy
@kensmechanicalaffair
@kensmechanicalaffair Жыл бұрын
@@jonathanramoslexusmaster298 If that's spicy than a turbo LS is fire. The 2jz single will basically be N/a up to about 3,500rpm. Meanwhile it just got trucked by a 5.3 with two ebay gt45s and a mild cam...bus lengths...a tractor trailor...a mobile home, lol.
@PacificDark
@PacificDark Жыл бұрын
@@jonathanramoslexusmaster298 2jz are not $500 bucks, tho. And weigh more than my mom.
@bryantg7641
@bryantg7641 Жыл бұрын
@@jonathanramoslexusmaster298 that's 100% irrelevant, because that doesn't matter where the hell you are
@300cmysrt8
@300cmysrt8 Жыл бұрын
I like how you said the internet says you need at least 1000hp. My 505 LS7 is plenty for getting into trouble. Even the C5 Z06 feels very fast. KZfaq makes everyone who hasn't driven a fast car yet think these are slow. Hell, a fiesta st is a ton of fun with 197hp.
@a1phamalestud
@a1phamalestud Жыл бұрын
With 1000hp you can’t rlly do much but go straight
@sug8056
@sug8056 Жыл бұрын
@@a1phamalestud Then sideways very fast
@mathieulevasseur4082
@mathieulevasseur4082 Жыл бұрын
I blame the YT channels like 1320video that showcases 600-1500HP cars like they were a common thing. People don't realize those cars are the top 1% of fast cars. Heck, if someone has a 400HP car, he's faster than 95% of the cars on the road.
@aidantanny7230
@aidantanny7230 Жыл бұрын
Exactly. I've driven my buddy's bone stock Evo 8 and the thing is a blast. Don't know the power numbers off the top of my head but it's certainly less than 505.More than enough to have some fun
@jerryfathouse2009
@jerryfathouse2009 Жыл бұрын
We’ll said. They just pull 0-60 times from the internet too. They dont understand the conditions those times are set in.
@b.s.adventures9421
@b.s.adventures9421 Жыл бұрын
I remember in the late 90s when the traditional small blocks were the older cheaper tech and LS was exotic and expensive. You could still get a cheap pre smog small block with good for the time heads that would make power cheap. LS was only in Vettes and F body’s and they were expensive. Cool to see the progression.
@petermelnyk7664
@petermelnyk7664 Жыл бұрын
For real before the ls...we had the 5.7 vortec...and they were great ....just not as fast as the Ls....or lt, remember racing a 5.3 when they first came out and walked my 5.7....after that I was pretty sure I better get my shit together ....so I procharged the 5.7....lol
@cgdrider
@cgdrider Жыл бұрын
I've had many LS 6.0 in all of my GM pickups for over 20 years with no problems. My current survivor truck is a 1999 Chevy Silverado 2500 LD 4 X 4 with the LS 6.0 3 door EXT Cab with 6.5' bed. This truck has pulled everything from a 13,000LB Toy Hauler Travel Trailer with 2 full dress Harleys in it to boats and car carriers. It now has 350,000 on the original engine, runs like new does not burn oil. Push rod engines are simple and simple is good.
@chrisstavro4698
@chrisstavro4698 Жыл бұрын
The LS3's 55mm intake valve was actually sized for a 6.8L and higher RPM, and they used some tricks to make it work on the 6.2. That's why the LT went to a smaller 54mm valve...which is still too big. That "big" LT port is the secret to the low end torque; the VVT is just icing on the cake.
@rustysausage69
@rustysausage69 Жыл бұрын
Them intake runners on the LTs flow more than an LS7 head its actually fuckin crazy
@TurboV8boi
@TurboV8boi Жыл бұрын
Interesting. At what point is the bigger valve beneficial? Like on a bigger power turbo car.
@rustysausage69
@rustysausage69 Жыл бұрын
@@TurboV8boi This is a little long.......BUT When theres enough cubic inches or camshaft or both that have to go through it, a bigger valve is necessary, in some cases its NEEDED. My examples are of N/A engines, but air behaves the same way regardless of N/A or forced induction. Best examples are a 1.7/1.5 small block chevy head vs a 1.94/1.59 or 2.02/1.6, youll AWLAYS gain power EVERYWHERE in a 327 or 350. The difference is (depending on castings) only the valve size, some may have smaller or larger chambers. And likewise with the LS, GM saw it fit to separate the 5.7 and 6.0s from the 5.3s and 4.8s in regards to valve sizing; the cylinder head architecture is almost identical in all cathedral port castings. And in testing, a 5.3/4.8 head absolutely kills top end power after 4500rpm on top of a 6.0.
@TurboV8boi
@TurboV8boi Жыл бұрын
@@rustysausage69 thanks for the reply. I wonder about cathedral vs square port too since you mention it . I understand you can't put square port heads on 4.8/5.3 engines; but once i was told that on turbo cars the cathedral port heads are good because of velocity they provide vs a square port. Granted I haven't seen data comparing the two in that situation.
@rustysausage69
@rustysausage69 Жыл бұрын
@@TurboV8boi The general rule is if something makes more horsepower N/A, then it will make more power under boost; that said, the peak numbers don't necessarily tell the etire story. The engine has to be moving enough air across the RPM band for the head to be worth it, whether that extra air be from a bigger camshaft, cubic inches, or both. In the case of my personal 416LS, it has ported LS3 heads, big cam, ported intake, much more cubes, etc. etc. and makes 680hp, revvs to 7000, it surely moves enough air for rectangle ports to be well worth it. If I bought a set of ported cathedral ports, it would lose power everywhere after 4000RPM, they might give it a little more torque before 4000 because of the smaller ports; thats still before the torque peak though. On a stock 6.0, a set of LS3 heads is entirely not worth it because it doesn't have enough camshaft or cubes to really take advantage of the extra flow. It'd make 10 more horsepower at the top because its a bigger head, but before the torque peak that size prevents the air from moving higher velocity to make a higher torque peak, so it would lose torque from idle to 5000.
@fideltrujillo5012
@fideltrujillo5012 Жыл бұрын
Best part of the LS is the packaging and how light they are . They fit in everything and make great power. Win win !
@bradhaines3142
@bradhaines3142 Жыл бұрын
a colorado with 500hp 5.3 would be glorious, the right tranny that can handle some towing too would make it perfect
@weseethetruth158
@weseethetruth158 18 күн бұрын
Fun fact the new lt6 is still almost the same size as ls...
@hurtnem76
@hurtnem76 Жыл бұрын
Don’t stop making these kind of videos . You’re going to get huge doing these type of videos . You have a lot of good info and it’s very well put together.
@enochspaulding8151
@enochspaulding8151 Жыл бұрын
Dude is really good. His videos are soothing and entertaining. He has a youn g Morgan freeman voice
@geoffholmes7291
@geoffholmes7291 Жыл бұрын
I agree with the assessment. The information is opinion and fact based. Both are important to consider when planning a build
@jonathanborowski391
@jonathanborowski391 Жыл бұрын
You left out the OG "variant" 5.7 !! LS1
@alienfrmearth
@alienfrmearth Жыл бұрын
Don't forget the 5.7 LS6
@CodenameOliver101
@CodenameOliver101 Жыл бұрын
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@timothypadilla4192
@timothypadilla4192 Жыл бұрын
Iiiiits literally the first motor he speaks about
@jonathanborowski391
@jonathanborowski391 Жыл бұрын
​@@timothypadilla4192 you and some others missed my point. at 1:16 when he lists the variants of LS engines produced, the 5.7 displacement is not listed
@robmotown1
@robmotown1 Жыл бұрын
LS is not OG. Gen 1 SBC is OG. And the old sbc still holds its own!!!
@stevetrkulja3803
@stevetrkulja3803 Жыл бұрын
In conclusion, the one that has been around longer is easier to get and is cheaper to work with...obviously lol. If the new gen LT was out first it'd be flipped. It's all about having time to adapt and availability of kits/parts which grows with time. Both are great! Solid comparison video too.
@MalcolmV8
@MalcolmV8 Жыл бұрын
I’d love to see a video just dedicated to all the popular LS variants and their differences and what vehicles they came from etc. that’s always very interesting info.
@ritenour12
@ritenour12 11 ай бұрын
I’m addicted to these videos and can’t stop rewatching every episode wanting more frequent uploads!!!
@greenflame8398
@greenflame8398 Жыл бұрын
This is a well reasoned, well thought out argument. I fully agree with all points made. I've owned 2 LS1 F-Bodies. Both had over 100k miles on them by the time I sold them with ZERO engine problems.
@dazaspc
@dazaspc Жыл бұрын
You left out the LS 5.7 the original The great beauty of the LS is the crank mounted oil pump. This give many options oil pan wise along with the small top end giving plenty of room for accessories along with heads that flow well. OHC or Hemi adds to the size of the top end significantly making them less swap friendly.
@CarlosLopez-iy6jr
@CarlosLopez-iy6jr Жыл бұрын
Being a tech you’ll find out GDI engines are designed to fail after awhile cuz they let a lot of carbon build up on the intake valves and require frequent cleaning but with port injection gas is able to hit the intake valve and clean off the carbon build up so yes GDIs are more fuel efficient and can make better power but the longevity of the engine isn’t so great port injection engine will last longer
@ninjaface2342
@ninjaface2342 Жыл бұрын
You can solve that problem with a oil catch can. I've put almost 200k trouble free miles on my l83 and had 150k on one with zero issues before I wrecked it. Still makes plenty of power in my 2015 rcsb silverado, and I regularly hard launch and do over 130mph in. Like weekly. I've beat the hell out of both those motors with no visible loss of power or problems besides a broken valve spring which was an easy fix.
@WJHandyDad
@WJHandyDad Жыл бұрын
Man that was a great video! All the info someone needs without any fluff.
@Thoroughly_Wet
@Thoroughly_Wet Жыл бұрын
LT swapping my c10 currently. The LT was my choice purely because I got the engine for "free". Buddy got it through his job at a service center because it was pulled for a stuck lifter under warranty and was just going to be scrapped, I traded him a shotgun for it. Although he did give me the option of the LT or one of the hundred of SBC shorts he had sitting around, but took the LT because I was sold on the direct injection, high flow of the heads, and the 6 bolt mains. The main downsides to the LT you presented well, and it's as you say the aftermarket isn't there because the engine is still too new.
@nalgas5569
@nalgas5569 Жыл бұрын
Ls has 4 bolt mains also
@Thoroughly_Wet
@Thoroughly_Wet Жыл бұрын
@@nalgas5569 yeah but I wasn't in the right state of wallet to get a long block LS and I misspoke, it was 6 bolt like the ls1 and ls6 my bad
@nlsdrf1290
@nlsdrf1290 Жыл бұрын
Red neck
@damnationswarhead8005
@damnationswarhead8005 Жыл бұрын
You hit so many angles between them:) Thanks mate,great video.
@kl0wnkiller912
@kl0wnkiller912 Жыл бұрын
Love my CTS-V... 540WHP with a couple of bolt ons... good enough for me.
@Sye787
@Sye787 Жыл бұрын
Great content! You hit on the proliferation of LS engines correlating with the aftermarket and research put into them. Conversely, it would be awesome to see you cover Rotary engines! I feel like Rob Dahm is the only person still working on them
@eugeniomorales906
@eugeniomorales906 Жыл бұрын
Manual transmission LT engines don't have displacement on demand. But imagine using your two feet to drive? Oh the horror!!!!!
@sito1103
@sito1103 Жыл бұрын
This is simply not true. I own a M7 C7 and it, in fact, does have DOD. I don’t use it, but if you put it in eco mode it will go into v4 mode often.
@durchfallklaus4420
@durchfallklaus4420 Жыл бұрын
6th Gen manual Camaros 100% do not have AFM in their LT1 engines
@evilegg12
@evilegg12 Жыл бұрын
@@durchfallklaus4420 I can corroborate this! 6mt LT1 Camaro here
@seanallen1315
@seanallen1315 Жыл бұрын
My 2016 Camaro SS manual (LT1) does not have AFM
@fortheloveofnoise9298
@fortheloveofnoise9298 Жыл бұрын
I'll stick with the LT1 in my 96 Z28 6 speed manual convertible Camaro
@unicornsqueezins7906
@unicornsqueezins7906 Жыл бұрын
Loving this channel! Keep up the kick-ass content!
@VTheGuerrilla
@VTheGuerrilla Жыл бұрын
I LOVE this Channel. Keep doing these bro and take it back all the way back to some of the most legendary engines from the 1940s on up. Your on to something here with this format and theme, it’s refreshing, soon you’ll have the world only full video Wikipedia of engines.
@fortheloveofnoise9298
@fortheloveofnoise9298 Жыл бұрын
Good thing about the LT1 that came out before the LS was it was the last "oldschool" sounding engine, sounds great!
@kensmechanicalaffair
@kensmechanicalaffair Жыл бұрын
There's lot's of support for it too.
@BigKandRtv
@BigKandRtv Жыл бұрын
There is so much information packed into this video I am going to have to watch it several times.
@ARealPain
@ARealPain Жыл бұрын
This was a really good video!
@OmarOmar-wd5cq
@OmarOmar-wd5cq Жыл бұрын
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@chrismeyer434
@chrismeyer434 Жыл бұрын
Nice video. Informative AF, guy
@paulc858
@paulc858 Жыл бұрын
Great info on both pros and cons on both engine. Keep up the good work man.
@thegenrl
@thegenrl Жыл бұрын
clearly presented content with no fluff (time wasting rambles). Awesome work quality video!
@strumptavianroboclick5596
@strumptavianroboclick5596 Жыл бұрын
Very comprehensive, good job man!
@Carstuff111
@Carstuff111 Жыл бұрын
I am so glad I subscribed today. Thank you for these very informative videos!
@EASTOAKLANDSS
@EASTOAKLANDSS Жыл бұрын
Good job bro 💪🏽
@KsDontMiss21
@KsDontMiss21 Жыл бұрын
Very informative ch..I’m in Louisiana and will be getting with you to do some work.!
@rj8372
@rj8372 Жыл бұрын
Great video. You've made me love my c6 even more! Kudos sir.
@WarriorsPhoto
@WarriorsPhoto Жыл бұрын
Good video and I've driven enough LT and LS vehicles to realize this. Either engine produces a smile and that's why we drive. Is to have fun and smile. See you in the next one.
@Bucketheadland1
@Bucketheadland1 Жыл бұрын
Great video, Thanks 👊💪🏁
@jacksond5
@jacksond5 Жыл бұрын
Great information about engines abd how they work with the specs . Love it
@codenamedesertviper1825
@codenamedesertviper1825 Жыл бұрын
Aaand subscribed. I’ve already watched 3 videos in a row, I love this channel
@gtdrummerdude
@gtdrummerdude Жыл бұрын
I have a stock C5 Z06 and a stock C4 LT1 Vette. Both great engines and cool cars. The C4 is actually a cooler car IMO. The C5Z is pretty basic/boring unless you are running it hard where it's a very capable and fast car. The C4 is a cool car just to drive down the road.
@zr1cvette
@zr1cvette Жыл бұрын
Yep had an 88 35th with an L98. Sure top end not really there.. great stop light to stop light and around town though.. plus c4s just have a bad ass look. Interior is like a cock pit. They look they’re going 170 sitting still. Sports cars don’t have that stance anymore.
@fryloc359
@fryloc359 Жыл бұрын
I was just reading a thread on Corvetteforum where guys were saying the C4 is a lot more fun to drive, and the C5 is boring in comparison. I wish my 89 had more than 240 hp.
@zr1cvette
@zr1cvette Жыл бұрын
@@fryloc359 safety lol.. c5 and above a lot safer, don’t make all there power low. C4 with an L98 can kill you lol. I’ve had a couple experiences where I should’ve wound up in someone’s garage or a ditch but thankfully didn’t quite happen lol
@zr1cvette
@zr1cvette Жыл бұрын
Yeah and also as the above commenter said. A c5 or above especially anything that’s a z06 you have to run hard to experience the fun. Try running any of those cars hard hard on a public road lol. Potential death or accident. I fell like from everything I read, unless you track or race a lot .anything past 250-325 HP is wasted on normal roads. Good friend of mine had a 2020 5.0 mustang. Claims the thing just felt bottled up driving around town, nowhere to open up remotely other then highway occasionally. So for around town driving L98 sweet spot and I’m sure LT1 lol. LT1 will have a bit of a highway edge due to extra 55 HP.
@MichaelRadelet
@MichaelRadelet Жыл бұрын
While I do agree with everything you’re saying I just think the LT is cooler. And even just cam swapping an L83 and doing dod delete ( identical parts as LS) can get you some pretty wicked power, I’d argue better than a gen 3/4 5.3. Big downsides are accessories/power steering although the l8t does have a hydraulic pump, if you can fit it. And other major downside for euro and jdm is extremely limited selection of front sump pans because of the integrated oil pickup.
@twillison8824
@twillison8824 Жыл бұрын
I took a tour of a jasper engines plant years ago, the engines they were rebuilding were probably 90% small block chevy. There were quite a few 4.3s as well, and they're damn good engines too.
@jessecarpenter6434
@jessecarpenter6434 Жыл бұрын
I watch your videos on tik tok. And I just found your KZfaq. I’m lovin em all. Your so informative and have little bias. You go off facts and statistics. Thank you for thay
@erikbrown2682
@erikbrown2682 Жыл бұрын
I put a L86 in my jk and it is a awesome swap. But I added a supercharger and now lay modify it. And kinda wish I had gotten a LS for the reason u had stated. But if I wasn’t going to modify I like the LT all day the torque for a stock motor is amazing
@fosterscott3877
@fosterscott3877 Жыл бұрын
Your content is amazing. Appreciate it...
@Tanner_Teves
@Tanner_Teves Жыл бұрын
My favorite engine of all time is the LS3. Came in my favorite Corvette generation (C6) and my favorite 4 door sedan (SS). The 5th gen Camaro didn't really speak to me that much (mostly due to that hideous interior) but I still would take it's LS3 over the Mustang's 5.0 coyote.
@julian_sp
@julian_sp Жыл бұрын
As a 5th gen owner I never understood the hate towards the interior. Its simple, has cool lights, & easy to clean. I do have a 2ss if that makes a difference.
@trentdaddydolla647
@trentdaddydolla647 Жыл бұрын
@@julian_sp I think everyone got tired of the green LEDs on the dash and door panels. It's the very reason why I didn't get an 5th gen😂🤣plus if you had the automatic it was slower than and 4th gen Camaro.
@Javservice
@Javservice Жыл бұрын
Hmmmmnnn… nah.. nothing like a stroked LS7… it will make the power naturally aspirated that of an LS3 supercharged… There is nothing that runs so strong as a built LS7 stroker on nitrous or even turbo. Like the old saying says. There no replacement for displacement. When it comes to Chevy motors they rely very much in displacement. The bigger they are the more power you get specially in latest engines..even though a lot of old school big blocks still make considerable power when done right.
@Javservice
@Javservice Жыл бұрын
@@julian_sp I actually love it. It reminds me so much of my high school years..
@KEVREYES1775
@KEVREYES1775 Жыл бұрын
@@Javservice wow didn’t know a stroked NA LS7 could make as much as my Supercharged LS3 Making 900whp. LOL…. That was a dumb statement and mine is still stock bottom end
@trumanhw
@trumanhw Жыл бұрын
DAMN bro, you are freaking knowledgeable. You even have "Ultimate Ultima RS over here writing. (very glad I found your channel ... thanks for the great work)
@weslymathis3004
@weslymathis3004 Жыл бұрын
A few years ago, Petronix had an engine build competition. On team built a 350 cid engine while the other team built a LS 6.0 engine. Both teams had the same budget of 5,000 dollars, the 350 engine outperformed the LS except for fuel mileage. The price of parts for the older engines were so much cheaper it allowed far more options to build the engine.
@chrispraz877
@chrispraz877 Жыл бұрын
The way I make sense of it is that the LT Seems to be more of a high-revving "sportscar engine" that probably makes its best power way up top. LS is the torque monster with endless aftermarket.
@bigadielldne7234
@bigadielldne7234 Ай бұрын
LT makes torque way better because direct ejection especially low end torque
@ProGen6
@ProGen6 Жыл бұрын
Great vid. The fueling is crazy expensive. And as soon as you boost the LT1 you will need to upgrade it to full lt4 fueling and new piston and rods. Yes the ls is a better platform overall.
@mattwebb2121
@mattwebb2121 Жыл бұрын
Sick video. Subbed
@catfihed9326
@catfihed9326 Жыл бұрын
Worth mentioning 97-02 LS was gen 3. 03-07 was gen 3.5 and gen 4 is 2007+. Gen 3 no afm/dod but weaker. 3.5/4 had stronger rods and pistons with full floating wrist pins.
@motherlovinsnuffstar
@motherlovinsnuffstar Жыл бұрын
I have a gen III lq4 out of a late '03 Denali that came with floating wrist pins and "gen IV pistons and rods".
@BigBeastfull
@BigBeastfull Жыл бұрын
@@motherlovinsnuffstar so it was Gen 3.5 then
@Max78912
@Max78912 Жыл бұрын
very well put together video
@Glockenstein0869
@Glockenstein0869 Жыл бұрын
I had a 2015 C7. It spent a total of 2 months at the dealer because of the AFM and lifter issues. I had so many issues with that car.
@adamwest3637
@adamwest3637 Жыл бұрын
This video has me amped and I never say that word. I got a 02 single cab with a LS7 and I’m getting a ZR2 with a L87. I’m looking forward to rebuilding my old truck as soon as I get my new one. Plus the parts are cheaper. I’m goin to learn a lot of stuff
@Orinard
@Orinard Жыл бұрын
broo i got so much and clear info for free that i'm in disbelief T.T ty man.
@forterierocks
@forterierocks Жыл бұрын
Love the LS engine are truck at work has a 6.0 with over 400,000 on it and still runs great.
@boostjunkie2320
@boostjunkie2320 Жыл бұрын
it's the 6 bolt rod bearing design that makes the LS so strong
@alphathefirstone1222
@alphathefirstone1222 Жыл бұрын
exactly. the jackscrews/crossbolts on teh block it the key to more strength. Those lt engine will be junk when they hit the yard due to the direct injection system. The ls base engine will win out in the long run...
@dedomv11
@dedomv11 Жыл бұрын
Very informative, thank you for your information.
@al90vette
@al90vette Жыл бұрын
Great vid!
@the.wanginator
@the.wanginator Жыл бұрын
This is your lane bro! Stay at it!
@jeffscott3160
@jeffscott3160 Жыл бұрын
Great comparison video. You really can do a LS swap in your toaster! I can remember LS swapped mustangs at the track back in the day cause the Ford boys got tired of gettin' beat all the time! Poor Ford didn't have an answer to the LS until 2011.😂
@ArchersGearheadGarage
@ArchersGearheadGarage Жыл бұрын
great video!
@jonadkins9339
@jonadkins9339 Жыл бұрын
LT motors are great. Hopefully down the line they end up in yards for $500. Price is just a massive factor for everyone really. I love my LS1, it runs okay for being 25 years old and having 140k miles. Sure it's not as fast as a Coyote mustang, but it puts a smile on my face. Can't wait to build a 408, just to lose to a FBO E85 10 Speed Camaro/Mustang.
@Tanner_Teves
@Tanner_Teves Жыл бұрын
My G8 GT has a 403 stroker in it and man is it fun. I need to get a more aggressive cam but right now I'm making 410whp at 6,000ft above sea level (I live in Colorado) and even then it's still a blast and torque monster
@surgeonso4345
@surgeonso4345 Жыл бұрын
@@Tanner_Teves how are the junkyards in Colorado? i’m moving there later this year.
@jason.arthur.taylor
@jason.arthur.taylor Жыл бұрын
Hopefully down the line they end up in yards for $500. Not really happening. The engines in yards will cost a fortune to rebuild.
@carguy3028
@carguy3028 Жыл бұрын
They will it’s a guarantee,
@PacoRobbins
@PacoRobbins Жыл бұрын
@@Tanner_Teves sounds like you need a turbo too then
@davidmcleod7757
@davidmcleod7757 Жыл бұрын
I own a 2006 gto with the ls2 in it and love it 108.800 miles change my oil and filter and it runs great I don't burn rubber but I don't baby it either and I'm 68 years old
@henrywashington3732
@henrywashington3732 Жыл бұрын
Super happy with my 3.8v6 1997 Firebird. Only 200hp but get all the looks from everyone. It's that Pontiac history respect.
@Tain950
@Tain950 Жыл бұрын
This was an excellent video especially for a JDM guy like me that’s trying to transition. 8m done with my Nissan Z’s and looking to go American
@Gchang54
@Gchang54 Жыл бұрын
You will not be disappointed, I have a 2019 Camaro ss 1le, and it's the best car I've ever owned. Previously owned: 2011 Wrx FBO tuned by jrtuned, and a 1993 supra tt auto standard bpu all on 93octane. Camaro stock kills my previously owned cars in every performance metric. But the supra was actually more compliant on the street lol.
@maxthemadtuner
@maxthemadtuner Жыл бұрын
Nice work bro! Fyi, dod was introduced in 2005 on the 5.3s in the Trailblazer and Envoy.
@erikbrown2682
@erikbrown2682 Жыл бұрын
I did get a used L86 with 5k miles on it and the matching 8 speed trans for 6k tho felt it was a good price for both
@upcastdrake8460
@upcastdrake8460 Жыл бұрын
The AFM/DoD can be tuned out on the LTs, and in fact is factory tuned out on all the manual transmission ones. The manuals instead have a skip-shift feature to avoid the gas-guzzler tax, altho that can also be removed by installing a $10 bypass cable.
@ThePandaK1ng
@ThePandaK1ng Жыл бұрын
Yes you can turn the system off but the problematic afm lifters are still there and will fail prematurely more than likely
@stevenstoll2016
@stevenstoll2016 Жыл бұрын
Ummm, NO. MY 2016 C7 MT has AFM and DOD. As soon as I activate ECO mode.
@upcastdrake8460
@upcastdrake8460 Жыл бұрын
@@stevenstoll2016 Interesting, I know all the manual Camaros do not have it. I did not know the C7s had an ECO mode.
@stevenstoll2016
@stevenstoll2016 Жыл бұрын
@@upcastdrake8460 yep - eco, normal, sport, & race. In ECO mode it will default to 4cyl DOD if the power isn't required. With ECO on it pretty much defaults to 4cyl: 70mph, top down, 7th gear, it pulls 1300rpm, and averages 35mpg. If I stay in 6th at 60mph it will be closer to 40mpg. Power is just a stab of the throttle away (usually requires a downshift as the cruising rpm is so low) Outstanding power and fuel economy combined.
@beachesandhose2374
@beachesandhose2374 Жыл бұрын
I wanna go for either an LSX or a ZZ632 for drag racing and either 2 gigantic turbos or a 18-71 blower in a 1st gen Silverado with the shortbed
@jayroc3337
@jayroc3337 Жыл бұрын
Let’s talk about the 8.1 GM motor. LS tech in a big block. I have one in a 1/2 ton regular cab short bed 2wd. It’s a beast
@theredwedge9446
@theredwedge9446 Жыл бұрын
With me also being a little biased, not taking into account the price for modifications.... the 93-97 lt1 can be made into a monster and match modern supped up engines. The 93-97 lt1 engines are CRIMINALY Underrated. Also reverseflow cooling is bad ass !!!!!
@PacificDark
@PacificDark Жыл бұрын
Agreed. I had a ride in a G-Body with a 90s LT1 in it. 350 HP to the wheels and that thing could move. He made it to be a summer touring car to drive cross country.
@theredwedge9446
@theredwedge9446 Жыл бұрын
@@PacificDark all that torque too from 1800 to 4500. Insane power band.
@KUROSAKURA01
@KUROSAKURA01 Жыл бұрын
Bought a previosly raced LT1 for $1k. Going to build it more with a better intake, possibly even go nuts with it, and swap it into sonething that definitely should not have that kind of horsepower
@Sir.VicSmasher
@Sir.VicSmasher 8 ай бұрын
1:36 They made a 5.7L and it was available in the Corvette, Camaro SS/ Z28, GTO and CTS-V.
@Lumpygrits76
@Lumpygrits76 Жыл бұрын
Mannnnnnn that 5.3 LS is literally today’s 350. Everyone and their neighbor was dropping in 350’s. Ayyyyyyyy speaking of 5.3’s. I’ve got one someone near middle Tennessee can have l. Runs good and doesn’t smoke but it’s long in the tooth at about 220k miles on it. Only thing I’m charging is dropping in my newer engine in.
@AYoutubrrr
@AYoutubrrr 4 ай бұрын
Interesting video thanks man
@kurtisstutzman7056
@kurtisstutzman7056 4 ай бұрын
I really want that LS toaster...! Actually, I NEED an LS toaster...!!! Thanks for sharing... Keep up your awesomeness...
@DrewLSsix
@DrewLSsix Жыл бұрын
Reminds me of the late 90s when if you were serious about going fast with your new 98 F body you yanked that LS1 out and dropped in a big inch SBC with carb and probably a 2 speed auto.
@Bmxmatt98
@Bmxmatt98 Жыл бұрын
4:28 that C6 is my friends 🔥🔥🔥
@ejgrant5191
@ejgrant5191 Жыл бұрын
Pretty decent discussion. What I 1st noticed about the LT series motors was how much more space the front accessory drive took up when looking @ them @ SEMA in 2013?....Sorry but, the wide poorly utilized accessory packaging makes them a NIGHMARE! to install into any old Muscle Car along with the added complexity of the direct injected fuel system....They are't that huge of an improvement over the Gen3/4 LS based motors. Not worth while for me. One thing to note, the premium LS motors are getting more scarce (LS3, LS7, LS9) and commanding more premiums....I was happy to get a 2010 LS3 Dry Sump motor out of a wrecked GS Corvette in 2014 for under $5K....Not going to happen these days (Less then 3000 miles on it)
@tomboy1875
@tomboy1875 Жыл бұрын
The thing about the LS. They crafted their heads to flow better with less components. Kept it simple and reliable.
@b97209
@b97209 Жыл бұрын
Any recommendations on which LS? 1974 Square Body K10. Long highway drives before hitting dirt or mud. Need a matching transmission, either manual or automatic. Fuel economy and durability are more important than HP. I am fine going a bit slow but hate to breakdown in the middle of nowhere. Could do a new crate or junkyard.
@George-zq2sk
@George-zq2sk Жыл бұрын
curious for you to do the same with the 3.2 VR6 and the 3.6 VR6 in VW/Audi's
@jonathansheeder5153
@jonathansheeder5153 Жыл бұрын
I am an Ls3 fan.
@registrationaccount1034
@registrationaccount1034 Жыл бұрын
Please do a video on the evolution and iterations of the N63 and S63 engines.
@JohannGambolputty22
@JohannGambolputty22 Жыл бұрын
As someone intimately familiar with the LT1 having had to do the following VERY common repairs: Replace a coolant soaked Optispark, a harmonic destroyed cam driven water pump, a failed rear mini ram gasket that soaked the dual mass flywheel which cannot be resurfaced, a fried ECM which is a royal PITA to tune, Fuel rails that are prone to boil fuel, which in turn causes frequent fuel injector failure, I can say Id rather have almost any other engine.
@joshuahedrick
@joshuahedrick 6 ай бұрын
Wrong LT1, not the 93-96 LT1 but the 2014 LT1
@FriedTendi
@FriedTendi Жыл бұрын
You can disable displacement on demand I know there's parts sold out there to do it
@sammcbride2464
@sammcbride2464 14 күн бұрын
And roller lifters and rockers. I believe the water pump was reverse flowed to cool the heads first instead of the block. There were a lot of little things that added horse power or the lack of horse power robbing. I might be thinking of a generation before the LTx., but I know that those changes added a lot to GM power from the old 350ci as we knew it.
@daltond7622
@daltond7622 Жыл бұрын
I went with a older lt block for my 55, it was a 350 bored to 383. I wanted a classic look in my Cadillac with a different sound
@cooliecrewspeedshop
@cooliecrewspeedshop 8 ай бұрын
Thoughts on the L8T block? Scoggin Parts made good power from it, stock crank too
@samwalton9472
@samwalton9472 Жыл бұрын
I do have a comparison that I would like to see if you could. Gen 1 small blocks vs LS. I am looking for a cost per hp comparison. Reason for the request, the Gen 1's have been around forever and have more aftermarket parts (currently) available to them vs LS. Granted I know the stock head is the biggest re-stricter of power but for under $5K, you can build over 500HP on a stock 400 or 383. So the parameters I would use are - displacement (nothing over 400CI plus .030 overbore for cleanup), cost - I would keep it to $5000 and naturally aspirated, 2 bolt main on the Gen 1 would be fine, both junkyard motors. What are your thoughts? Would this be a worthwhile video? BTW: nice work on this video!
@corning1
@corning1 Жыл бұрын
Just get and ls2.
@fryloc359
@fryloc359 Жыл бұрын
The thing is, you'll spend a lot more money on the SBC to get the same power the LS starts with.
@corning1
@corning1 Жыл бұрын
@@fryloc359 I haven’t crunched the numbers that hard but is that true? The small block is dirt cheap, even compared to and ls1
@FastFoodHavion
@FastFoodHavion 2 ай бұрын
Great explanation
@RoyalTiger13
@RoyalTiger13 3 күн бұрын
I have a 2013 Camaro SS with a stroked 416ci (6.8L) LS3 that makes about 1220hp motor. My tow rig is a 2024 Sierra AT4 2500HD with the 6.6L L8T. Love them both.
@noahdunaway
@noahdunaway 6 ай бұрын
I’m not a fan of the direct injection because of the problems with the intake valves coking up. I have a 2015 ZL1 manual transmission and I plan on keeping it for the long term.
@richardfinney3179
@richardfinney3179 Жыл бұрын
I'm sticking with my 2016 LT1 Z51 and the 10l90 in my 57 Chevy sedan delivery I'll swap it out with the next Chevy Lt motor when it goes tits up
@user-cs7bu4ur1j
@user-cs7bu4ur1j 3 ай бұрын
Youre vids are THE BEST. Do some NASCAR stuff.
@abikuneebus
@abikuneebus 6 ай бұрын
Hey man just wanna say this was an incredible video, love these kinds of deep dives and it’s hard to find people who do them well, especially on relatively niche topics like this.
@jamestehuna5915
@jamestehuna5915 Жыл бұрын
I remember before Covid hit you could pick up an LS Engine for 500 bucks in Australia now you can’t even pick one up for at least 2 1/2 to 3 grand minimum
@billyfoster3223
@billyfoster3223 Жыл бұрын
Low end torque, LT1 350,; it worked in the 1990's and it works today!🛠️👍😀
@matrox
@matrox Жыл бұрын
I'm running an LT1 in my '17 Camaro Super Sport 6 speed manual trans.☝😁
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