4:50 Mario escaped from a black hole, The cackleta rays were so fast that it was necessary to stop time to see them.

If Mario grabs the white tanuki suit. It’s over

Sonic thinks he is the fastest thing alive, just wait until Mario puts a slope down and starts backwards long jumping

It ends in a tie, because their game mechanics are practically the same

Some dude named Tyrecordslol dropped his own video about this debate and said that the Mario in SM64 isn’t the same Mario in Galaxy, but Sonic is the same Sonic in every game… what? lmao

It’s also worth noting that Mario once destroyed the sun with a turtle shell

Finally Someone who understands my BOI Mario

Also, Isn’t weird how when someone makes a video on Sonic beating Mario, the Sonic fans are calling out Mario fans, but if someone were to make a video where Mario beats Sonic, the Sonic fans come in with their 5 paragraph long essays that wank Sonic and Downplay Mario that can be easily debunked?

If you don’t think Mario is strong, look at bowser. 12 feet tall fire breathing turtle dragon hybrid with superhuman speed and strength, and still gets his ass whooped by Mario. Says a lot tbh

Also Yes Super Sonic is meant to enhance Sonic's speed and durability however Super sonic isn't invincible since he can feel pain... He does have a death animation for when he drowns gets crushed etc.

1:37 FINALLY SOMEONE MENTIONS THIS GUY

Mario: didn't i not throw a baseball so hard that it literally broke the baseball speed recorder I'm pretty sure

Sonic for sure won that dance battle. His moves even got the trees to boogie to the beat.

Why do a lot of people down play Mario?

I like to refer to this matchup as diet goku vs diet popeye

Sonic maybe powerful but you cannot underestimate our 5 foot plumber

And some people still think sonic wins in base 💀

This is literally comparing Usain Bolt against Mike Tyson.

Like, let's not even mention the Multiversal Dreamstone and shit like that.

Finally someone who knows Mario in depth and has passed on to us his little known and remembered achievements, thank you for that bro, Mario has almost always been underestimated in terms of power level.

Bro I'm getting tired of people underestimating Mario

I don’t know if it counts or not but the game over screen in 3d world shows that Mario getting upset instead of dying. This could mean that bro wasn’t even scratched by anything this whole entire time.

sonic breakdances like nothing he solos in the dance category

You know those meteors that mario ground pound are neutron stars so the feat is even more impressive😊😊

it's also worth noting that if mario were to die heaven and hell would reject him and he would come back to life

Bro i laughed so hard when you said “And he defeated him by launching planetoids WITH HIS ASS” also you are really underrated bro

Ah yes. A fight that's comparing a demi-god plumber with almost limitless power-ups that fights chinese turtle dragon gods against a alien blue hedgehog with super speed and needs to go Super Saiyan to beat tough opponents. Seems totally fair.

Don't forget that Paper Mario IS Mario. And Paper Mario is OP as hell.

Why can’t people just accept that sonic and Mario are friends?😭

THIS GUY SPITTING THE MOST TRUTHFUL STUFF THAT HUMANITY AS EVER HEARD OF

To quote someone else: "Arguing with Sonic fans is like arguing with a wall. The conversation will pretty much go nowhere. It's best to let them cope in their little echo chamber. They're too childish to accept the fact that Sonic's not an invincible, unkillable God."

The only thing someone could say is that sonic has enough speed to speed blitz Mario and end the right, but in character, sonic would never do that.

9:57 damm the most hard question ever

Finally someone that agrees. The superstar is more like a 20 times multiplier than pure invincibility. But that’s okay given that since he’s already at galaxy level, he’s then at 20 times galaxy level. My boi can’t be stopped

This is literally amazing. I adore the Mario series and basically stan every Mario character. It’s such a breath of fresh air to actually see someone with a brain talking about who would win. You can really tell that the sonic fans who think that three-foot hedgehog could beat that amazing man have only played one or two Mario games.

We all know Mario is crying on the floor

Finally bro, I’ve been waiting for a video like this for AGES! Thanks for making this you’re really underrated.

Finally someone putting respect on my boi Mario’s name

In terms of speed, Mario is able to move when time is stopped in Super Mario 64. Moving through space in the absence of time means that his speed is immeasurable.

Forgot to mention that mario actually defeated dreamy bowser which scales to multiversal level if not higher and this is even crazier is mario was in his base form in this fight too all he had was a big hammer

5:27 speaking of caught off guard, friendly reminder our hedgehog boy got whooped by a Sandwhich two times in a row by a fat man 💀

I feel like it would be a tie both can win but it depends on the environment I’d say

alright, i really dont wanna be annoying with this debate cuz honestly it annoys the absolute fuck outta me as of recent, so apologies for being annoying with the comments lol. but tyrecordslol argues that every mario is different, that being 3d games, spin-offs, 2d, and basically saying that the only way mario would come close to beating sonic is using comp mario, basically saying that with every mario being different, that takes away all of marios greatest feats. therefore comp mario cant really be used in a death battle due to it being disingenuous and unfair. what is REALLY annoying is that according to most articles, is that mario's spinoffs dont actually have a confirmed/recognized canon. therefore its debatable if marios legacy content can be canon, all of this can come from his latest response to us mario fans. in all honesty, i think its unfair how us nintendo/mario fans are usually the ones with less subs, and a lower viewcount, while sonic fans get all the glory and are able to shut us up with considerably "better" counterarguements due to how practically outnumbered we are, and to top it off sonic fans are just really toxic and parasitic to those who share different viewpoints. honestly up until now, still no hate and im just trying to bring up some stuff that really can be viewed as just unfair/annoying to this controversial ass debate.

Bro you gotta box tyrecordslol. Thats gonna be a battle for the ages.

I think that since Wonder, an argument for Mario is even more relevant.

I hate how Sonic fans like Zelda fans have a vendetta for Mario scalling yet wank their universes to oblivion. You didn’t even cover the pure hearts and Paper Mario string Theory, or how Superstar Saga confirms the OG Paper Mario Trilogy took place in both the real world and paper world.

one thing you forgot to mention about Mario’s sheer strength is that fact that he was able to LIFT A GOD DAMN CASTLE OFF THE GROUND AND JUST, KICK IT AWAY. A single kick will make a blood splatter of where that hedgehog used to be

True man who knows about Sonic and Mario power knowing Mario is going to win

You forgot the fact Sonic got pieced up by a sandwich in Lost World

I want to add to the Dark Gaia. He also had help in the fight with light Gaia aiding him

I doth agree, Mario is tanking everything Sonic throws at him

And wait Isn't Mario created, before Sonic this automatically makes the past feats Mario has for physical strength alone, Mario In Super Mario 64 went through dimensional paintings I think even he defeated Bowser with no power ups in that game If I remember and Strength enemy difference, Sonic's enemy named Dr.Ivo Robotnik, uses Robots to do his bidding unlike Bowser at least Bowser has kooplings as this guy is a king, Dr.eggman's strength isn't high Sonic's enemy literally relies on mechs while Bowser this guy has so much strength and Durability not a Sonic hater though I hate though Sonic fanbase.

As soon as you hear that star theme, you're doomed

Now we need Luigi vs. Tails debates.

1 thing I think is kind of important to bring up that I never see anyone talk about in these videos is that Mario did have the luma with him and was getting power from it the whole time he was in Galaxy and Galaxy 2. I'm not saying that it was making a HUGE difference to his abilities or power in general, but I do think that it could have been helping Mario to do feats such as launching the planetoids with ground pounds and such or protecting him from the giant black hole at the end of the game via just some kind of manipulation over celestial bodies since that's what lumas become. Not trying to take away from the power scaling or anything, but I thought it could be an interesting topic to bring up the fact that he did have a celestial creature able to transform into an entire galaxy with him during that adventure. How much it helped him though is up for debate.

Update: Might of Gerubah made a god-awful "debunking" for this. It's just as bad as you think it is! (Go laugh at it and debunk Gerubah's video for me please) 🤣

and that guy literally went easy on Sonic, since Miyamoto confirmed that ''Human Mario'' = Paper Mario

"B-b-but what about Archie Sonic???!?!?🤓🤓🤓🤡🤡" Look. This is a fight between the game versions only. Plus, if you Sonic fans bring Comics in this, then i'm using manga Mario in this. Manga Mario obviously stomps, since he ALREADY faced people who rewrote and manipulated his universe. Plus, Mario-Kun(yes, that's his actual name) beated Manga Bowser, who quite literally came out of the manga, and destroyed the author, took the author's pen, and proceeded to manipulate Mario-Kun's universe, but Mario-Kun ignored it. And Manga Mario is just comp games Mario, but in manga form.

Best video ever on Mario vs sonic thanks for this research

Atleast someone else knows that Mario claps Game Sonic, which while close, I definitely agree.

Thats what I've been trying to say to sonic fans for years, but they just dont listen. Great video man.

As a sonic fan this video is fax. Imo I think they tie but I can definitely see how Mario wins. Sonic fans are so annoying sometimes “Archie Sonic solos fiction 🤓”

Culex from RPG legit has the same statements as solaris except mario can actually kill him alone without the need of is allies since you can fight him solo. Exists in all past and present timelines, consumes time and space like lunch, and still got annihilated. Btw, the black hole sonic was running from is artificial. Sonic didn't even end up escaping it and got caught in the blast

*me knowing how sonic can defeat mario and i know it all but decides to stay quiet because i dont want arguments*

Mario's got even more plot armor than sonic 💀

Honestly, I've always been more of a Mario fan and in every battle or sprite animation I've seen it's usually always Sonic who wins, and if Mario DOES win I feel like it's done a little cheaply or the animation isn't that good and finding ones where Mario does win with good animation and not even adding fanon stuff like Super Cape is little to none and surprising when you can actually find them. As of now the only ones I can recall is the 2nd Mario vs Sonic Death battle, the One Minute Melee Mario vs Sonic, Mario vs Sonic made by zzstar, and if you want to be technical(even if this has fanon stuff) Spacepea's Mario I believe had/has the potential to beat that Sonic as well. Either way I don't get why the Sonic Fans are complaining, they have MANY animations and stuff where their boy wins just let us Mario Fans have ours.

Damn Mario characters got some powerful ass. 😂

Very surprised I haven’t said this before, but thanks for making this. Me and many others appreciate not being the only ones on the Plumbers side (while not meaning to downplay Sonic) How do you think Wonder and Superstars change things up though?

That last part killed me 😂

-Super Sonic joined the Chat -Metal Mario Joined the Chat -Merely Touches him -Emeralds punched out -Super Sonic lefted the Chat -Hyper Sonic joined the Chat -The Emerald's Aren't Powered up yet -Hyper Sonic can't happen

Isn't there a wisp that turns Sonic into a lightning bolt? I think there is.

Honestly tyrecordslol is so biased towards Sonic it’s not even funny. His idea is that every Mario that you play as in each of his games is an entirely different Mario just doesn’t make sense when you consider the amount of callbacks to past games like in Super Mario Sunshine where FLUDD scans Mario and it shows scenes from his previous games. Same with Odyssey when you first capture Bowser and you go through his memories. Not to mention his idea would actually make Mario a lot weaker than he really is.

Finally someone with good facts as a mario fan I've always like him❤great video

As someone who likes both series equally and knows what both are capable of, they have both been extremely downplayed in their full potential here, especially sonic

But Sonic wins the dance battle he's got some moves

Wait... If Mario Claps Sonic and Sonic Claps Goku... We need to see Mario murder Zen-Oh

Bro was drinking before making this video

Sonic fans are really toxic and complain if Sonic loses to anybody. Mario DOES beat Sonic in a fight

To be honest, I think it will end in a tie (no composites or even with composites I think it was still in the tie)

hyper sonic is a featless fodder. he is overrated af

The Blackhole deaths in Mario Galaxy were Gaming mechanics. If we’re gonna include Hyper Sonic, we gotta include Pure Hearts. Before Sonic fans mention Time Travel, Mario can do the Same thing, if not that than he scales above Bowser who can Time Travel, meaning Mario can react to that Easily, that alone means Mario can keep up with Sonic lmao.

As a Mario and Sonic fan of my own, I absolutely despise them fighting. Nowadays the two are friends.

Most is filler, the true debate is at 9:50

Ah yes the Nintendo fanbase where you will never see your brain cells again

Oh yeah mario I forgot he even beat srardust

B-But Archie sonic🤓 Mario base solos

In DMS is crazy bruh 😭🙏 (Also there's a sick ass artist that draws mario beating people from games all over, in his base from lmao)

ok he is actually very VERY strong

ayy my boy nice ahhh video, I definitely like Sonic 10000X more than Mario but I’m honest to god glad someone finally put some goddamn respect on his name

As a huge Mario fan, this video is a W, i’m glad someone finally understands Mario’s real strength

Sonic outran time itself if mario was in sonic generations he would’ve been frozen like sonics friends so theoretically mario would be speedblitzed

I love mario

Kirby and Sonic fans: "Mario has never killed a God before!" Me: **Shows* *Millennium* *Star** Kirby and Sonic fans: "Oh that's not so much." Me: **Shows* *The* *Shadow* *Queen** Kirby and Sonic fans: "So?" Me: **Angrily* *shows* *The* *Dark* *Star,* *Dreamy* *Bowser,* *and* *Super* *Dimentio** Me: **Shows* *Culex** Kirby and Sonic fans: **Blatantly* *lying* *to* *my* *face** "Whatever. None of them are on par with Solaris, Void Termina, etc." Me: It's pretty clear that most of them are on-par to what the Kirby Gods and Sonic Gods are doing. Hell, even the games themselves state this! Sonic fans: "Sonic can just hax Mario out of existence!" Me: Okay? If he truly had "hax" like your claim here, then why didn't he just hax/teleport himself into all three time periods to take on Solaris all by himself? Why did he need Shadow's help and Silver's help to take on Solaris? Why couldn't they actually kill Solaris? How come they could only weaken Solaris? Why did he need Chip/Light Gaia's help to seal Dark Gaia back inside the earth? (If he truly had "hax", he wouldn't need Chip's help, and he would've actually killed Dark Gaia, not sealed him back up.) Why did he need his younger self's help to take on the Time Eater? Why couldn't he kill the Dark Queen? Why did he have to use Erazor Djinn's lamp against him after defeating (not killing) him? Why does he need his Super form to take on *any* of the Titans? (If he truly had "hax", he wouldn't need his Super Form at all.) Why didn't he just erase The End from existence rather than just briefly stopping it? (You can't kill what is basically death itself.) Sonic: "You're being such a hypocrite because blah blah blah!!! You're just downplaying/lowballing him!!! Archie and Smash bros are canon because I said so!" (They keep going on trying to "prove" that I'm "wrong" without showing any evidence.) Me: Screw this... I'm out... (Archie isn't canon. SEGA themselves confirmed it.) Arguing with Sonic fans is like arguing with a wall. The conversation will pretty much go nowhere. This is just one of the many examples of what I've had to put up with when dealing with the many, MANY ignorant Sonic fans. Don't try to argue with them. You can't win. Not because they're right, but rather because they refuse to accept that they're wrong. (Much like a politician.) They're like those kids in elementary school who plug their ears and loudly yell "LALALA I CAN'T HEAR YOU!!!" whenever you say something they don't like. I'm looking at *directly* *at* *you* Might of Geburah... To quote a wise man: It's hard to argue with a smart person, it but it's impossible to argue with a stupid person. And to quote a little birdie: "It's a law of physics that says that you simply can never convince a Sonic fan to deal with reality. "

What’s funny is if sonic wanted to he would literally just not even let Mario touch him with his greasy plumber fingers

Yea if u ACTUALLY powerscale the Mario verse it’s pretty crazy most ppl don’t because it’s wacky and cartoonish but Mario would honestly whoop sonics ass

*Sonic fans crying in the comment section*

Mario actually beats Goku

Hear me out Wario vs Sonic Wario wins has sheer will to be pretty much too lazy to die

I fully agree with this video. As a fan of both characters, this is 100% accurate.

Mario'd kick Sonic's ass and all he'd have to say afterwards is "Wahoo!"