Why Mastering Reinforcement Is The Linchpin To Reinforcement Based Dog Training

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There's a very good chance that you, like me, want to train your dog with reinforcement. It aligns with the kind of person you want to be both for your dog and for the world. To get really good behaviors with dogs as a positive reinforcement trainer, you have to get masterful at all that is reinforcing. That's the topic of this episode, and I'm including case studies of two of my dogs, Buzz and Belief, and the layers of learning with reinforcement that create amazing skills.
00:00 Mastering reinforcement for optimal dog training.
01:13 Case Study: Buzz dog obedience retrieve in the 90’s.
03:23 Troubleshoot dog sport training using positive reinforcement.
04:58 Popular but harmful dog training advice.
06:19 Belief’s puppy training progress with positive reinforcement.
08:10 Why positive reinforcement is the dog training of the future.
09:08 Backlash from leaving corrections behind in the 90’s.
09:45 Positive reinforcement is the most reliable method of dog training.
10:02 Layers that create brilliant dog behaviors.
11:55 Use consent to create trust for nail trimming, husbandry, etc.
12:28 Where to start teaching bigger and more complex behaviors.
13:11 Know and grow what your dog values in different places.
15:41 Dogs should learn to earn reinforcement vs. being lured.
17:03 Use Daily Quickie dog training sessions to strengthen fundamentals.
17:55 Teach dogs “do” instead of “don’t” for behavioral success.
In the episode you'll hear:
• A video review and breakdown of retrieve training with my dog, Buzz, from the 90's.
• How you troubleshoot dog sports competition training using positive reinforcement.
• Examples of popular, but bad, training advice I received that's still taught today.
• How my puppy recalls from play brilliantly because of incremental layers of learning.
• Why positive reinforcement is new and revolutionizing centuries of dog training.
• How I pioneered positive reinforcement in dog agility training, even when told it would not work.
• Why dog training using positive reinforcement is more reliable for recalls and more.
• Why consent and cooperation create trust for nail trimming, etc.
• The importance of knowing and growing what your dog values in different environments.
• How dogs learn to earn reinforcement and how the value transfers to you.
• Why teaching dogs "do" works better than teaching "don't."
• The truth that you're one good strategy away from a better life with your dog.
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Resources:
1. KZfaq Playlist: Target Training for Dogs with Susan Garrett - • Target Training for Do...
2. Podcast Episode 155: 10 Ways To Teach A Sit WITHOUT A Food Lure! Unreal Results For Puppies And Dogs Of All Ages - • 10 Ways To Teach A Sit...
3. Podcast Episode 145: 10 Ways To Teach A Dog To Lay Down And How To Shape It Without Luring - • 10 Ways To Teach A Dog...
4. KZfaq Video: Puppy Belief's Training Progress Update: 9 Months Old - • Puppy Belief's Trainin...
5. Podcast Episode 146: Balanced Dog Training: Does It Really Exist? - • Balanced Dog Training:...
6. KZfaq Video: Understanding Your Dog's Reinforcement Zone (RZ) with Susan Garrett - • Understanding Your Dog...
7. Podcast Episode 107: Pedicure Please: 3 Steps To Dog Nail Trimming Or Grooming Success At Home! - • Pedicure Please: 3 Ste...
8. KZfaq Playlist: Susan Garrett's Dog Training Philosophy and Training Processes - • Susan Garrett's Dog Tr...
9. Tasty Treats Recipe eBook - dogsthat.com/tastytreats/
10. KZfaq Playlist: Reinforcement, Permissions and Transfer of Value in Dog Training with Susan Garrett - • Reinforcement, Permiss...
11. Blog Post with Video: The Transfer of Value in Dog Training - susangarrettdogagility.com/20...
12. Podcast Episode 190: Using Daily Quickies To Fast Track Your Dog Training And Grow Your Dog’s Skills - • Using Daily Quickies T...
13. Learn to Play ItsYerChoice - dogsthat.com/y/iycsummit
14. Crate Games Online - dogsthat.com/y/crategames
15. Podcast Episode 191: Get Your Dog To Calm Down With This Common Sense Protocol For Relaxation - • Get Your Dog To Calm D...
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@DogsThat Жыл бұрын

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@quinngonzalez2856 Жыл бұрын

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@lennox22 Жыл бұрын

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@DogsThat Жыл бұрын

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@gordonprice695 Жыл бұрын

This was SOOO helpful. I am setting myself the challenge of dealing with shelter dogs, with behaviors in need of modification (lots of leash reactivity) with nothing but reinforcement. I think of "punishment" as an "intervention". Meaning, only appropriate in real emergencies, and since this shelter is a no kill shelter, there are no emergencies. I won't have a quiet room to start training, which makes it harder, but it's a full time gig which will make it easier. And this really reinforced for me that my first task is to understand EVERYTHING that every dog likes, and then work on getting them to like even more things, and then using all of those to build on. It's going to be an adventure! So, thank you Susan, for adding to my toolbox. ☺

@DogsThat Жыл бұрын

Thank you Gordon, for the work you do with those dogs! We are so grateful to have you in our community 💕

@trashtoto Жыл бұрын

you a real g gordon /gen

@DomesticAnimo Жыл бұрын

I wish you the best truely....I work in animal shelter environments....treats will only get you so far with most dogs in shelters. Be ready to spend TONS of hours with them and be ready physically and mentally. Not trying to discourage you but just make you aware of things. Treats can fix and aid in some things but treats will not fix behaviour problems 100% There was an aussie and their owner and I saw the owner trying to work on their dog with training with treats. You think that dog cared? Not one bit. It was running around ignoring their person making her look really foolish. I just shook my head. That dog doeant care about food or treats or cute talking to it. It wanted to do what it wants. With some dogs you better learn how to be the most interesting thing there is or toughen up and do some "negative reinforcing" your not abusing a dog by correcting it and giving it firm directions and instructions. My dogs listen to me with or without treats i dont base our relationship off food. If they dont listen i make sure they do next time. They arent perfect but i dont say there names 50 times in 1 min before they do what they are told. I dont have to chase them around to get a hold of them. I said all this to say you better be ready and know what you are doing training dogs is not all treats and everything that dog does is "right/rewarded" because its not.

@gordonprice695 Жыл бұрын

@@DomesticAnimo Thanks for that! I know it's going to be a harder task than the typical "training your own dog at home" scenario. Doubly so because a lot of the dogs are more traumatized than even in a normal shelter situation. I am taking a number of different toys and food puzzles and such, to give me those extra reinforcements. And I have long lines and harnesses as well. I was at the same shelter when I went to Kyiv the first time last September, and I did manage to have a little success with a stubborn Central Asian Shepard who would pull on the leash like a farm tractor. I finally realized what she REALLY wanted was to just have a longer walk. Makes sense for a breed that just wants to wander the hills waiting for a wolf to make the mistake of showing up. 🤣 But it's going to be a real challenge to make a difference for all the dogs. Or even most of the dogs. Thankfully I will have two 2 hour walking sessions every day to work with different dogs, plus about 4 hours between walk sessions to do more focused training behind the shelter, away from the traffic noise and other dogs, so hopefully that will be low distraction enough to manage. That and I will be making home made high value treats so when I do use a treat, it's a super compelling one. 🤩

@DomesticAnimo Жыл бұрын

@@gordonprice695 your welcome! Its nice to see someone wanting to put in the hardwork of dog training espically in shelters....its tough on us workers because we dont have the time to do training :( I have a aussie and a beagle they have pretty good recall and are off leash 80% of the time 😅. I love my dogs so much. I am also currently fostering a really scared and timid Staffie shes really sweet. I think the shelter environment is horrible for her plus shes black...the odds arent in her favor for adoption and i cant bare to see her EU plus I have 2 cats so I would like to say i know a thing or 2 :). Anyway thanks for reading my ramblings. Best wishes to you and I am sure you will help lots of dogs where you are ^^ Anyway thanks

@Jenily111 Жыл бұрын

Thank you Susan. Sometimes I get so confused over all the different dog training methods. But one thing I know for sure is that your training methods have worked wonders for my dogs (H360, Agility Nation, and currently in WAG Nation and Recallers).

@fionacharles328 Жыл бұрын

Thank you Susan for another wonderful podcast 🥰. Have watched so many of your videos & they help SO much for general obedience & with the dog agility that I take my young working cocker spaniel to. Your podcasts are informative, interesting, logical, positive and you’re funny & engaging in your presentation. Have told others about you. Lots of love from Scotland 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿.

@perrogerstjerne6166 Жыл бұрын

I'm not so sure about it all, and it is a struggle to convert from balanced training to reinforcement training at the age of 66, but I thought I will give it a try. You bring in your podcasts more clarity about it all that I don't find anywhere else. I know about the clicker, fading, luring, shaping, learning theory and all that, but you take it to another level, resonating more in me, make me understand it better and make me more curious. Thank you for helping me on the road to be a better companion to my dog, and we do have a lot more fun these days too.

@dogsmumm Жыл бұрын

Love this. We’re the same age. I learned to train dogs in the 60s/70s/80s early 90s with various types of correction. I got a dog in the mid 90s (teenager from the humane society, who had already failed a placement), who would not take corrections. “You can kill me, but you can’t MAKE me do anything.” Hence why he was at the pound. I knew if I took him back, they would euthanize him. I had to figure out a way to get through to him. Somehow I found “clicker training” and the rest is history. But as you say, it was un uphill battle. All my dog friends knew that this was a silly fad. No one thought it would work. I’m so grateful for Susan making her training available online.

@DogsThat Жыл бұрын

What a wonderful story, thank you for sharing it, and for your kindness 💕

@IAMGiftbearer Жыл бұрын

I'm currently working with my puppy on transferring value with various commands I'm teaching him. What you said makes alot of sense; if a dog likes something enough it is strong motivation.

@harleysauceda5401 Жыл бұрын

Glad this was in my recommended! Was watching Beckman but he doesn't seem to believe in the purely positive training. I have been venturing out to McCann dogs and Will Atherton, and a few others but I go back to them. This feels like super good way to train and does not particularly require learning an entire new way to carry yourself or act with the dog. Instead a different way of thinking that really clicks with me. It's hard to find a way to be consistent and put in the time but this gives me a lot of hope for me and my puppy! (Especially in finding a way to keep his nose off the ground at every second and creating *lasting* engagement)

@DogsThat Жыл бұрын

Hi Harley, we're so happy you found us, welcome to the Dogs That community! If you're interested in learning more about Susan's training philosophy, we have a playlist for you: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/jL-qfdZ216e8mKc.html Don't forget to subscribe so you can be notified of our upcoming videos! 🐕

@k9conceptsdogtraining Жыл бұрын

LOOOVE your work Susan. This fills me with so much joy.

@DogsThat Жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoy it! Thanks for being part of our community, don't forget to subscribe!

@urban_birddog Жыл бұрын

I am very grateful for Susan Garrett and her incredible mind. She is a master, a pioneer and a gift. She leads my growth as a dog trainer and a person. I hope all dog trainers grow from what she has accomplished.

@clepant Жыл бұрын

This was a great podcast Susan. I have to remind myself that I taught elementary students Physical Education for 44 years and not all of them learned the same way and that I often had to come up with creative or special ways for them to be successful at a skill. I had to break down the skill I was teaching in steps or layers. It helps to remember that when I am training my new puppy. I just cannot get enough of your podcasts and look forward to 200!

@nrowland4103 Жыл бұрын

Another video I will (have to 🥸) watch more than once. Thank you for the framework and video demonstrations and relatable anecdotes. Brilliant!⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️👍👍🇺🇸

@gsdpuppystuff3404 Жыл бұрын

You are helping a 50yr. History of dog training soul. Appreciate you and your training accomplishments.

@joannai1161 Жыл бұрын

Love you Susan, for all your wisdom you share so freely. ! I’m forever grateful to you for making me a better parent to my new puppy. As a new puppy owner and trainer, I wouldn’t have dreamed of being able to teach all these tricks and behaviours. I swear, sometimes I think my puppy listens with me to your instructions, because it comes so easy to her 😂 But really, it’s because your instructions are so clear, concise, and easy to follow. With you, I am so much more relaxed about the whole process of raising my puppy. Slow and steady wins a race 😊, or as you quote … slow is smooth, smooth is fast

@RaptorsGirl Жыл бұрын

Aaah thank you for your feed back Joanna and also thank you for showing up in such a big way for your puppy. ❤

@patricktilford8454 Жыл бұрын

Thanks USMC Retired!

@kihntagious Жыл бұрын

How are you not huge.? You are fantastic!. I'm starting now

@vickydimitriou6156 Жыл бұрын

Thankyou again Susan for your time & insight ❤

@judydugan813 Жыл бұрын

I'm so glad you are willing to try something totally different. Be it dog training or learning Zoom meetings! :) Most of all I am so grateful that you continue to share what you have learned. I just love that Buzzy retrieve video! Cookies to the Graphics Team on this video! Brandy thanks you for making me a better dog teacher! 10 yrs!

@Ts7005 Жыл бұрын

You need more subskribers, learn so much from you! Share the videos, love them!

@RaptorsGirl Жыл бұрын

@wolfdreams2000 Жыл бұрын

LOVE this, Susan! Awesome as always 💜

@DE-ss5ks Жыл бұрын

Oh Recallers/Podcasts/HSTD, you changed our lives. Kindness, clarity and joy.

@DogsThat Жыл бұрын

Thank you! We're so grateful to read this 💕

@runtosaurus Жыл бұрын

How to troubleshoot dog problems - come up with bettter strategies, and ask better questions. Looks like I've got some work to do! 😅 Super excited for episode 200 too!

@laurawright-6576 Жыл бұрын

Ah, my most favourite video of all time of Buzzy!!! ❤

@trishbech9082 Жыл бұрын

Awesome! Thank You Susan 😊

@DogsThat Жыл бұрын

You are so welcome, Trish, thanks for your continued support!

@DoggyU Жыл бұрын

Great episode! Thank you!

@danish5339 Жыл бұрын

This section: Troubleshoot dog sport training using positive reinforcement Was very interesting . I compete in obedience with unconventional breeds, always looking for tips and insight on doing this following positive methodology. I find there's a huge amount of resources on training project dogs and difficult dogs with positive reinforcement but not a lot on how to balance your personal drive to compete and win with your dogs success levels and limits. I'd be very interested to listen to a podcast focussing entirely on consent in competition, how we can ensure our dogs are willing partners and not coerced or forced into it.

@DogsThat Жыл бұрын

Hi Dani, thanks for suggestion, it's added to our list of ideas. In the meantime, we have a video on consent in dog training - kzfaq.info/get/bejne/o-CfiLh7uZvJmYU.html

@marylang4540 Жыл бұрын

It’s like the pickle ball of sports.! I love it so much!

@nanettelai1525 Жыл бұрын

As always thanks for your insights :)

@DogsThat Жыл бұрын

Thank you, Nanette, for your continued support! 💕

@denisehilton3592 Жыл бұрын

wow this is so helpful because my Eskimo has a bite history and is Aggresive. blu is 2yrs old and i try to train him with good behavior and use his dry food as a treat with every good behavior he shows me.

@DogTrainingSolution1 Жыл бұрын

❤️ thank you

@DogsThat Жыл бұрын

Thank you for watching! Don't forget to subscribe so you can be notified of our upcoming videos! 🐕

@ruthhunt1858 Жыл бұрын

Another great podcast!

@DogsThat Жыл бұрын

Hi Ruth, thank you for watching! We are so glad you enjoyed todays episode

@DF-te2vm Жыл бұрын

I think all this is much simpler than most everyone thinks. The first training goal should simply be ....... training the dog to listen to you, however it takes for the pup to understand...... never negative or hurtful treatment.

@katherinecollmer1094 Жыл бұрын

Great podcast - so far! I have a question already. When you say add low value to higher value in the same bag, does this mean that I am rewarding out of the bag and mixing up the values as we play games? Thank you.

@azogal53 Жыл бұрын

My dog is so so on tugging but loves Bring Me. Trying to transfer value between Bring Me and Tug. Great explanation. 🍪🍪🍪🍪🍪

@robin212212 Жыл бұрын

I think for the average balanced dog reinforcement training works well but how about the hyper-aggressive or reactive dogs? Can you put up videos showing these types of dogs and how reinforcement can be used to stop their extremely aggressive or reactive behavior? Thanks.

@RaptorsGirl Жыл бұрын

Yes, I can address that for sure

@debbiestrang7774 Жыл бұрын

I have a Border collie who mouthed her ball like crazy. I watched this video. Still a little confused how to get her to give me the ball?? I am a member of your Recaller’s. Working on all the steps.. But, some steps specifically for getting her to give me the ball.. 😊

@DogsThat Жыл бұрын

Hi Debbie, in bonuses in Recallers you have Susan's amazing "Bring Me! Program" for retrieve, so be sure to check that out. We'd love for you to post in your Recallers website because we are totally confident you can have an awesome retrieve with the ball. (DogsThat Team)

@ellenpowers8037 Жыл бұрын

I need help. New 1.5 yo rescue dog. Have spent big $$$ on training in the 6 mos we’ve had her, but can’t fix barking in car. Just discovered your training but there’s SO MUCH good stuff. Where do I start? I am happy to pay for a course!

@DogsThat Жыл бұрын

Hi Ellen, hang in there, we have a video all about barking in cars to help - kzfaq.info/get/bejne/jryena6K1OCZh3U.html

@ellenpowers8037 Жыл бұрын

Thank you. Good video. I’ll be working with those tips. Other reactivity/obedience issues as well. Over $2000 invested in training so far that hasn’t really worked and I’m feeling discouraged. I love this dog. I’ve spent hours watching your videos and would like to follow a training course progression rather than haphazardly trying to find the right material on KZfaq. I put my name on waiting list for Recallers-is that the best I can do right now?

@DogsThat Жыл бұрын

@@ellenpowers8037 contact my team at wag@dogsthat.com and lets see if there is a way we can't help you better.

@k9s4happiness Жыл бұрын

Can you explain a little slower on the one finger on the dumbbell mouthing stuff you showed at the end? That was a bit confusing and not enough detail on how to reinforce not mouthing. Thank you.

@chrisgibbons3877 Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the excellent podcasts. I found you through Ivan's podcast and I've already learnt a lot. I've got a very high drive dog and Ivan was one of the few people I could find on KZfaq that understand it you are another. When people are told to train positive only without the right understanding they are left defenceless. I used an eCollar because my dog would have killed himself chasing cars without it. Maybe if I'd have found you earlier I wouldnt have needed it maybe I'm not good enough yet but I'm getting better. Thanks for the help!!

@donjames5761 Жыл бұрын

in my opinion different breeds are better at learning recalls than other breeds. like dobermans German shepherds border collies poodles. my english bulldog was very very stubborn. his recall is probably 70% but i didn't have him as a puppy he was from a shelter an was 3 years old. my 7 year old doberman she will run an play with my bulldog but she keeps checking back an if i hide behind a tree she cant see me she will come looking. its amazing how different dogs are

@DogsThat Жыл бұрын

Hi Don James, Susan recently did a podcast on different training methods vs approaches that may be helpful: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/rq5hfdR_mJq3omQ.html

@michaelmenezes475 Жыл бұрын

Hi Susan, as someone who sits in the balanced camp, I have to say I enjoyed this discussion. What are your thoughts on negative reinforcement? I see you don't like positive punishment but what do you think of the other arm of reinforcement?

@RaptorsGirl Жыл бұрын

Great question Michael and thanks for joining in the discussion. Negative reinforcement is a great topic for a podcast thanks!

@heatherhanson6870 Жыл бұрын

What podcast are you a guest on?

@DogsThat Жыл бұрын

It hasn't been released yet, so will let everyone know once it has been.

@stegles Жыл бұрын

6:45 I think part of that comes down to the dogs personality and temperament, possibly also the bond you have with them. I have a (almost) 9mo BC female who I've had great success training which i attribute to my bond with her as well as her natural attitude and focus. I can break her out of any behaviour with a call, redirect her attention with minimal effort. My other boy, Seven, almost 4 now, he does what he wants to an extent, my bond with him isn't as strong, but he still listens, but his focus just isn't there like Elsa's. I've spent way more training with him, trained him a similar way, but his base personality is very very different, as is our bond, no through lack of trying though. Sometimes its not just your training methods that dictate your success.

@DogsThat Жыл бұрын

Hi Matt, thanks for sharing this! Susan recently did a podcast on different training methods vs approaches that may be helpful: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/rq5hfdR_mJq3omQ.html

@RaptorsGirl Жыл бұрын

For sure some dogs are easier than others Matt, for example our rescue Bulldog mixbreed, who came with many rehearsals of ignoring someone calling him when he was doing something else he liked better, wasn’t as easy to get a reliable recall on as any of my dogs I’ve raised as a puppy. So all dogs are different wrt how much work or creativity it takes to get the desired outcome but it is possible to get those desired outcomes using strategies of Reinforcement.

@kennethfreeman7166 Жыл бұрын

Positive only training is better for puppies and pure breeds. Balanced training is better for behavioral training with rescues and 2 -3 year old mutts with multiple owners. I have found it doesn't work. Reconditioning is different than reinforcement

@RaptorsGirl Жыл бұрын

Thanks for your comment Kenneth, but that has not been my experience.

@eannicole205 Жыл бұрын

It was confusing to find your podcast on my app. Are you dogs that or are you shaped by dog? It looks like you are shaped by dog on my end. Please make your marketing more clear.

@DogsThat Жыл бұрын

Hi Ean, Shaped By Dog is the name of the podcast created by Susan and the Dogs That team. Hope this makes it clearer!

@judet3026 Жыл бұрын

I love the information and can only aspire to be even a tiny bit proficient at training with my dogs. I do find the argy bargy discourse between training styles annoying ie positive only v balanced, as it starts to sound awfully sanctimonious when, as you say, people have used the latter methods for, possibly, millennia. Moralising helps no one. Of course, anything deliberately cruel ie inflicting pain (as opposed to emotional discomfort) should never be tolerated but not all dog owners will be competing at any dog sport. Most just want a safe, compliant pet that is a part of the family and like kids, some dogs may need fair corrections at times.