Did you not watch the race?

@@nwinburn which of the 3 restarts is what he means

@@nwinburn Did you?

2nd I think

@@nwinburnDid you ?

Most funny one to me is the one how he did like driving next to them (mostly hamilton but there are also once with leclerc) before restart with a safety car... that they are now not allowed driving next to each other anymore. It gave him most of the time a disadvantage, but more get into there heads then anything. But for sure there are tons of examples of rule changes due to Max.

Yeah cause everybody is just peaceful and quiet when Lewis does something...lol It's only Max.

I think for many its about the interpretation of the same rules for different drivers/team and the outcomes. Of late, one team seems to always come off better than the others. That's life

@@gaycha6589 Oh like how Mercedes was allowed to keep the DAS system for the whole season but Red Bull had to change their wings the next race? Btw both were seen as "not at fault" but rather "ambiguous" when it came to overstepping the rules.

Yea it's funny but also kind of sad because in any other case this would be applauded as impeccable execution, high risk/high reward in the heat of battle. He gained an advantage on merit and won the restart against the better starting mercedes. That moment could have won the race if the accidents happened a sector later. A pretty toxic part of his job environment if you ask me having to deal with as much stirred up bs from media and fans.

Typical hamilton english fans who hate max . Bunch a wankckers

“Fans” who can't bother to read the sporting regulations (Granted, it's 54000+ words by now) who call bullshit when their favorite driver gets a penalty for a legit violation of the rules yet cry “but rules” when their least favorite doesn't get a penalty for not breaking the rules.

Rules aside, this is entitely monitored via sensors and therefore cannot be questioned whether he did something out of the rulebook or not, cause sensors would automatically indicate any wrongdoing. Literally nothing to think about here. I reckon Hamilton fans are paranoid believing detection devices are not working as intended or something. Flat earthers of F1.

Probably all British though.

Formula God is especially trying to push an Anti-Red Bull sentiment.

Not when the rules are CREATED for some teams and designed to impede others. Fake F1!

​@@prat1250 cope

@@prat1250 like raising the ride height bc Mercedes couldn't find a solution to their porpoising issues?

😂😂😂 you're paranoid bruh

Very true , couple of years then ham is gone and retired.

@@G.u74 good riddance cry-baby Lewis. complains about everything

@@akashmuruganandam1462 tell me hamilton lives rent free in his mind without telling me hamilton lives rent free in his mind 😂😂

As a Max Fan I gotta say of of y'all are pathetic haters.

Full of Lewis fangirls throwing their knickers in a rage

Trying to reason with LH fans is like talking to a brick wall. A brick wall that thinks everything is a conspiracy and everyone is out to get LH. I swear every freaking race there's another "controversy" trending on social media about RB, which turns out to be nothing, and it's ALWAYS spearheaded by LH fans. Their unhealthy obsession with LH is only matched by their unhealthy hatred of Max. Bizarre people.

Twitter try to have an intelligent conversation (HARD)

You expect the F1 community to have principled discussions?

@@Willie_Pete_Was_Here fr dts changed the game

I know right? "Max deserves a penalty for this" "According to the rules it's perfectly fine" "But he stole Lewis' 8th world title 1,5 years ago" Is basically the narrative among F1 fans these days. It's pathetic, really

​@@martinbasten192 Agree!

They would all do that to each other. No exceptions: McLaren, Ferrari, Red Bull, Williams, Brabham, Tyrrel, Lotus have all done it when they were trying to fight for the lead.

​@@TheRip72 Tyrrell, when?

Would actually be an interesting video

Yes they are mandatory, no teams have no say in it. About the the parts of the camera’s i dont know.

My wild guess is: the cameras in the car need to have specific requirements. They get a blueprint of designated spots they have to place them but teams can figure out how. Like pretty much every detail in an f1 car

They have designated spots on the cars where the teams need to put housings however not all cars have cameras in those housings. Generally the higher you finished last year the more actual cameras will be on the car (The 360 cam being an example of a cam that not all cars have).

@@SuperGenericUser I doubt that is the case. Every car should be equipped with the same number of cameras, as any team having less would have a weight advantage.

explanation

The specific rules refer to ANY part of the contact patch being outside, not any part being inside. If 50% of contact is on/inside the white lines, it is a penalty because of the other half. Even if it is 99%, there is a penalty applied.

because

Thanks…

If you mean the two starts in the "middle" of the race it's pretty clear, the lights were out on the car and at that point it works like a formation lap (Leader dictates the pace, no overtaking). If you mean on the last "lap" then yeah nobody knows, probably just the stewards having too much going on to be able to handle safety car infringements as well 😂

Because usually when the cars are following the safety car they are preparing for a rolling start. In this case it was just a formation lap to the grid

39.13 When the clerk of the course decides it is safe to call in the safety car the message "SAFETY CAR IN THIS LAP" will be sent to all teams Competitors via the official messaging system and the car's orange lights will be extinguished. This will be the signal to the teams Competitors and drivers that it will be entering the pit lane at the end of that lap. At this point the first car in line behind the safety car may dictate the pace and, if necessary, fall more than ten car lengths behind it. In order to avoid the likelihood of accidents before the safety car returns to the pits, from the point at which the lights on the car are turned out drivers must proceed at a pace which involves no erratic acceleration or braking nor any other manoeuvre which is likely to endanger other drivers or impede the restart.

@@marjabeverwijk5630 he was at the start of the lap, the safety car was driving slowly, but anyways...

Exactly! Just as an umpire helps a batsman centre his bat!

The drivers already go as far forward as they dare. But if a driver did get a penalty for going over the line, it wouldn't be unfair, the rules are rules.

Yeah it’s funny that in one of the most expensive forms of Motorsport, there isn’t some kind of system using laser beams and a position on the car that illuminates when it’s lined up, or the opposite, 2 lasers on the car that activate to align to a painted spot on the wall, and a spot on the road, and they could be guided in. We can land jet aeroplanes on a moving ship in the ocean but stopping a race car on the line makes people lose their shit.

Thousandths of a second? When was the last time you saw a race that close? You could use a sundial to time the differences between cars these days, they are that far apart! lol

So there 20 drivers, 19 get parked between the white lines, 1 outside white line and people want rules changed, ???????????

​@Dave Hughes Seriously? Have you watched qualifying EVER? Yes, thousandths of a second.

@@drews5569 Yes, many times and never seen them start a lap from the start box, have you? Your answer is of course no, because they do qualifying off a flying lap don’t they. When they “race”, there’s hardly ever thousandths of a second involved over the finish line. So, yes I was serious, you just didn’t understand what I was saying 🙄

Yep. Keep wheels behind the front line, keep still until green. Pretty simple.

there were

@@exitspree There

@@backupraceres There were plenty of cars, not there was plenty of cars.

@@exitspree I’m spanish, so I hope you can forgive my mistakes. As you were only pinpointing my grammar mistake I answered with yours

@@backupraceres You didn't. No need to capitalize when it's from the middle of your sentence. Next time just say "thanks" when someone helps you become less dumb.

This video actually explained why Max was in the clear, but anyway....

Team LH is so twisted. Every race where he doesn’t win, there’s a conspiracy. Either it’s because he’s black, because they want to preserve Schumi’s record, because they hate Mercedes, because Max is blowing someone. God damn man, maybe he didn’t win because oh, I dunno, he didn’t have the car, the balls or the luck needed to win on the day. Even if he crashes out it’s because someone deliberately tossed a banana peel at him. Just accept it.

Max is not the goat lmao

@@autograndeunlimited Max is the most talented driver in the field at the moment. Don’t know about the goat, but he’s damn good.

The yellow lines are there to guide the drivers where to park the car. It's just that you can get more advantage by taking a risk to move even further.

His every move is monitored twice as much because he defeated the most sensitive fan base in this industry and remained on top.

@@isuckatthisgame best explanation

@@isuckatthisgame Funny that, that's exactly what was happening with Lewis and Vettel. Its only more noticible now because of social media and the armchair experts. DWL.

Not to mention how much hate Michael Masi is getting. I notice Ted Kravitz did a bit of a backpedal yesterday, after ranting about Masi being there on Saturday, then yesterday he tried to smooth the waters a bit by telling everyone Masi was a "Human being"

No this is worse. The lunatics are sending death threats, Bomb threats and even envelopes filled with white powder to Verstappen and his family. They literally want him dead

explanation

@@exitspree typo

@@Eleti. lulu cry fanboy 😂

@@Felixdehuiskat-ul2mb you do this fulltime?

Constant digging for errors, then this happens.. Soon they find something that doesnt exist :)

@@gollese I hate how inconsistent they are

@@lichh64 blame the team principles who keeps whinging and forcing rule changes EVERY season.

The rulebook now weights the same as a F1 car. But the fact that the F1 car is now almost double size of those from the 90's also plays a part. The grid boxes need to be updated everywhere.

@@gollese Its always been this way not unique to this season.

100m ????

you missed an m.

100m lol

The FIA don't want to be fair though. They want Max to win. This is one of several very good reasons for everyone to STOP WATCHING F1, at least until the people running the sport start acting in something resembling a professional manner.

@@zelandakhniteblade5436 Lol bro, you sound like you forgot to take your medicine today ...

@Zelandakh Niteblade if your conspiracy were actually true, they wouldn't penalize Max at all...but this isn't the case. Also if you are referring to his grid start in Australia, sporting regs clearly indicate he was in the box as long as the wheels don't go over the white lines which they weren't.

FIA have literally changed rules because of Verstappens driving. in order to make the things he does illegal. How do you even make a statement like that with the history FIA and Verstappen has. Just look at the SC restarts, A driver could be alongside but slightly behind the front tire of the car ahead, then Max started getting great launches of the SC restart while following that rule. suddenly the following car had to be fully behind the car ahead until the track was green again.

​@@zelandakhniteblade5436 cope

Ok😂 now please watch the video

Cope

Because it was within the rules that's why

Topa - please tell us, who is in control of pace during that time?

@@TheJamesLykins The leader. It questions why the SC needs to be out there at all.

@@NathanDrake199 I thought extreme speed changes or going to slow wasn't allowed

39.13 When the clerk of the course decides it is safe to call in the safety car the message "SAFETY CAR IN THIS LAP" will be sent to all teams Competitors via the official messaging system and the car's orange lights will be extinguished. This will be the signal to the teams Competitors and drivers that it will be entering the pit lane at the end of that lap. At this point the first car in line behind the safety car may dictate the pace and, if necessary, fall more than ten car lengths behind it. In order to avoid the likelihood of accidents before the safety car returns to the pits, from the point at which the lights on the car are turned out drivers must proceed at a pace which involves no erratic acceleration or braking nor any other manoeuvre which is likely to endanger other drivers or impede the restart.

Exactly. There is one line. You need to be Xcm close to it with your front wheel and the centre line of your closest front wheel cannot pass it, and you cannot move at all before the green light. I guess you need to add some kind of limit angle wise, or maybe decrease the angle after each group of 4 starters or something, but if I’m on pole and there is obviously more traction in one area to the left, or I have a better start by starting on an angle, well, I put it in pole, it should be my call.

Best car.

@@trandyescapes9798 which happens to be the only circumstance Hamilton can win in… Max’s first championship was not in the best car… Hamilton’s entire career can be summed up by one word, “privilege”

@@trandyescapes9798 Put Max in a Ferrari and he wil be world Champion for sure

when you put it that way it really doesn't make sense at all, the FIA just can't make up its mind can it?

the rule basically says any part of the wheels touching the outside of the box will result in a penalty. which means max didn't break the rules since his tires were only touching the white line . on the other hand Alonso's wheels were partially outside of the box and that's why he got the penalty. everyone can take the risk and do what max did but teams tend to play it safe. and the reason why cars can't be too far left/right is for safety reasons. there must be enough space between cars and the track limit so that in case if someone is unable to move the other drivers can go around safely.

Don’t blame max for understanding the rules and taking advantage while other drivers are falling asleep behind the wheel. Everybody has the freedom to do it, it’s not against the rules when tires touch the white line. It’s only when the contact point goes over the lines that the driver gets penalized

@@holkn I’m saying the rule is strange. My initial thought when I saw the photo was he’s not in his gross box. Then I saw his front tyres were on the line and thought he’s probably fine because of that

You can go to the side too, just don't go outside the box. The rule is don't go outside the box...

Why? Max didn’t break the rules. Did you even watch the video? Or are you just refusing to accept facts because your driver didn’t win? Are you some sort of a sore loser?

i agree that they should sort out their penalty-inconsistencies, but the "sainz incident" absolutely deserved that penalty. would not call that a racing incident

Max's tire does not touch the ground outside the white box line. Alonso's tire (because the tire is a tire and not a ball) touches the ground outside the box lines. The tires are round from front to back (you can easily roll them forward and backward), but they have a running surface that is quite wide across the width of the tire (you can't roll an F1 tire sideways, it will fall over) , so that you can stand on the side of the line, while your tire also has contact with the ground outside the box lines. So max's tires didn't touch the ground outside the box, no penalty. Alonso's tire hits the ground outside the box, penalty (unfortunately). De band van Max raakt niet de grond buiten de witte box lijnen. De band van Alonso (omdat de band een band is en geen bal) raakt de grond buiten de box lijnen. De bandden zijn rond van voor naar achter (je kan ze gemakkelijk naar voor en achteren rollen), maar hebben over de breedte van de band een loopoppervlak die vrij breed is (je kan een F1 band niet zijwaarts laten rollen,dan valt hij om), waardoor je dus aan de zijkant op de lijn kan staan , terwijl je band ook contact heeft met de grond buiten de box lijnen. Dus max's zijn banden raakten niet de grond buiten de box, geen straf. Alonso zijn band raakt de grond buiten de box, wel straf (helaas).

The FIA changed the rules because of the Fernando incident

​@@theread3480 that is not correct. They changed the size of the box in response to that penalty.

@@marjabeverwijk5630 im not talking about today and max, but the picture ad the end, showing alonso on the side and in the back another one, looks like a haas? The haas didnt got penalty but alonso did.

Part of the Alonso's tire was touching outside the grid box, hence why he was given a penalty. Max' tires on the other hand did not touch beyond the grid box.

If the left tyre was just touching the white line he wouldnt have received it but this time it was over the white line..look clearly

... its to the side?

Alonso had tire touching outside of the grid box which triggered the sensor causing him to get a penalty

Max's tire does not touch the ground outside the white box line. Alonzo's tire (because the tire is a tire and not a ball) touches the ground outside the box lines. The tires are round front to back (you can easily roll them forward and backward), but have a running surface that is quite wide across the width of the tire (you can't roll an F1 tire sideways, it will fall over) , so that you can stand on the side of the line, while your tire also has contact with the ground outside the box lines. Max's tires didn't touch the ground outside the box, no penalty. Alonzo's tire hits the ground outside the box, penalty (unfortunately).

this is due to how contact patches on a tire works, as the tire is wide, its horizontal contact patch extends outside of the box in alonso's case, but its length wise contact patch is shorter, and therefore max's "overhang" isnt actually touching the surface outside of the box and therefore no sensors are triggered

@@darkace6401 It triggered a sensor? Then why did it take them so long to start investigating the issue? STOP INVENTING.

It's a very clear rule. None of the tyre which touches the circuit is allowed outside of the grid lines. Period. Alonso and Ocon were a completely different situation to max. Very clear.

Well after the 5-second penalty for Sainz you could argue all the Spanish /j

You mean like today? Regaining his position and being the only beneficiary, while ~6 drivers got shafted with the "roll back", AND Carlos getting a penalty for something he basically didn't even do? (Since the rollback invalidated that lap)

That's because Fernando wants to be FIA Boss and give Lewis maximum penalties

@@nikhilpaleti3872 you mean shunting alonso off and causing the whole mess to begin with?

@@nikhilpaleti3872 Carlos getting a penalty for something he didn't do? Carlos was way too late on the brakes and shunted off Alonso causing everyone behind him to crash out aswell. Carlos' penalty was 100% deserved.

ehh, is that why the widend the grid boxes with 20cm, from this race on ?

I'd wager he wasn't penalized because it was teamate on teammate, and that's rarely penalized

Ok now watch the video