And there's still the chance that Verstappen might leave RB!

Not done yet… max to merc in 26 would be my next guess.

​@ingrogies1 I think its possible because I don't think ford are giving red bull much hope for 2026

For sure! Used to be that the "silly season" referred to the goings on over the winter break. It seems now that "silly season" starts pretty much after the first couple of races, once everyone knows which team will win the constructors championship. With the calendar being as packed as it is, and now F1 has exceeded even Ecclestone's ambitions (as much of a good thing as it is bad). I've been an F1 fan for decades (started to get in to the sport in the mid 90s), but this is by far the silliest of seasons. It's actually got me to feel less excited about the sport. It's not the fact that Verstappen wins almost all the time (we've had that throughout F1 history), it's not because I'm some kind of bitter Hamilton fanboy. F1 has always been equal parts politics, nerdy engineering stuff (which I love), and driving prowess. This season, with the RB/Horner stuff, it feels like not just inter-team politics, but team office politics, and FIA housekeeping make up about 50% of the goings on, then 20% engineering, 20% driving, and 10% of marketing make up the rest. I watched the first season of drive to survive, and thought it was a decent way to get more eyes on my beloved sport, but I didn't expect it to bring in quite this many people, who all seem to think that DTS was a 100% accurate, truthful documentary, and not a typical reality TV show where the actual sequence of events was edited to give a more salacious and dramatic account of events. Let me be clear: if DTS is why you're now watching F1, that's absolutely fine. If you watch F1 because you're Dutch and Verstappen is your guy, equally fine. Your reasons for being interested in the sport are just as valid as mine. What I'm finding annoying is that DTS was an even bigger success than hoped for, and I feel like certain people at the helm of F1 are looking to repeat that success by whipping up artificial drama, and if that goes unchecked for a couple more seasons, there's going to be little difference between F1 and WWE. /rant Anyay, I do hope Newey stays in F1 despite all this. Loved seeing a desginer/engineer of his calibre being old school enough to be down in the pits. He seems to be talking about "new challenges", in a way that suggests a departure from F1, but I'm hoping that either a return to McLaren isn't off the table, or perhaps Audi are considering setting up shop in the UK (IIRC Newey has repeatedly turned down offers from Ferrari because he doesn't want to relocate)

@@bjrnchrstn Not sure what that would mean for Antonelli's career... not seeing Mercedes getting rid of George and Max would surely sign for 3/4 years minimum.

Issue is that he mind not like work around William factory conditions outdated and slowly produced cars component

As a Williams fan, I don’t want him to waste his last few years in a team that doesn’t even have usable infrastructure and a team that will take years to get back to fighting form.

​@@mrjdmtunerboy.1463 he could change that. Big sponsors could follow him there.

@@jivewig exactly, you could give Williams all the best engineers, drivers, pit crew etc, but end of the day their resources and facilities are very limited and even the great Newey wouldnt be able to bring hem back, although he certainly wouldnt hurt lol.

I thought he wanted to step back from F1 altogether... which also seems like the most likely reason for him to leave, as opposed to all the drama and gossipy reasons that highly driven people like Newey avoid (like the plague).

He's not ready, he even said he wants to continue with F1. RB have him on a contract that doesn't allow him to work on another team in 2025. However, quitting RB now does allow him to work with another team thru-out the rest of 2024.

@@robainscougheverything youve said is just wrong

@@raghavrmehta then prove it

@@robainscough "prove it", mate u are the one who needs to prove his point if you are gonna come up with stuff. where does it say this? did Newey himself say it? No, so which official F1 source said this?

​@@robainscoughHe is tied up until Q1 2025, meaning he cannot sign with anyone until AFTER the last season of the technical regulations. And the wording seems to be that he is stepping back and retiring after this year.

I’m pretty sure they won’t let him design from home and he has said in the past he has no interest in living in Italy

@@MrBertstare He did buy a yacht for his "gardening leave", know knows what ideas may fall off the deck and into Maranello in the interim!

He has never wanted it enough. He's had a blank check from Ferrari the last 20 years and he won't take it. I don't know why people think this is his best chance to join Ferrari, he could've joined any day he wanted before.

​@@muniz27 Newey said it's a shame he hasn't worked for Ferrari or with LH. Might be why people think it's a good time?

@@shmee1234why is it a shame he never work with Lewis ?

Horner recently claimed that even without Newey, the RB 20 would be the dominant car. Before that he said in an interview that every team member is replaceable. Totally get that Newey no longer want's to work under team boss Horner...

Yeah the issue isn't his public reputation; it's the company culture. He gets the recognition externally, but the team (Horner) actively tries to downplay his credit. It's kinda like when your boss takes credit for your work or tries to comment on how the work you've done could have been done by anyone. Regardless of what the public knows about you, are you gonna want to work for someone like that?

I think if you look back at what happened in the 90s at Williams too where he was sold one thing and it was never delivered due to management, he clearly doesn't want to stay when he loses faith in leadership

He's not getting enough recognition from within the team. Horner now is more sided with Pierre Waché than Adrian.

I don't know if there is a genuine F1 hall of fame, but he should be in it. Along with the top drivers of all time, I'd probably have Colin Chapman and Newey up there as far as stand out technical people go.

Newey’s bucket list: -Work for Ferrari -Work with Hamilton -Work with Alonso He can kill atleast two birds with one signature

Yes! All respect to Leclerc but I think Hamilton is still a better driver overall especilly seeing how Carlos has outperformed Leclerc so far. And Hamilton is a better driver than Carlos. And now imagine Newey writing the car. A deadly combo for F1 and then Hamilton can retire with his eight title.

@@jivewig still his best job is to work for Lance Stroll

@@sebulbathxCarlos is not better than Charles 💀💀💀 just cause he beated him a couple this season doesn’t mean anything especially when Charles had car problems in those races. Look at the results since Carlos joined Ferrari and you’ll see different picture

The Hamilhope is off the charts!!! LOL

Yes and no. Newey is a kingmaker, that's true, but it's not like Red Bull is just going to explode without him. WIlliams was a different story, their issues came from many factors, not just the car design.

Newey is one very key ingredient but not the magic bullet

Good point but don't forget that before 2022 Mercedes won 8 championships on the trot so Newey ran out of "luck" during that time! Don't get me wrong I think he's a God but there have been periods with out success and the current ground effect Regs take him back to his past and his best designs

@@Cavi587 I did say that seems unlikely but the thought of Williams and McLaren suddenly competing at the back was unlikely as well at the time. and yes you can say there are other factors involved but I honestly wouldn't be surprised in 5years time, when Newey's backlog of ideas has dried up, that Red Bull find themselves more mid pack or lower top end, than the supreme domination they are now.

If Newey does go to Ferrari, he better be prepared. Having been an die-hard F-1 fan for 30 years, and having worked much of my adult life with Italian companies with my business, if he’s looking for a stable, rational, conflict and interference free environment, Ferrari will be FAR from that!

😂

They someone else who built last 3 cars mate last 1 he did was 21

Exactly. He can’t put his trust into a energy drink racing company to design, build, manufacture and maintain their own in-house engines. 🤣

Horner situation , me thinks

BS. Remember the Renault times ;)

That hasn’t been ruled out of possibility.

what is blud even saying. you do realise part of the reason why he is leaving is because how red bull and horner treated that female worker?

Can't see Newey ending it like this. Unfinished business.

true but he's always wanted to work for ferrari & lewis hamilton, so this is a bit of a perfect opportunity

Marzipan ? who cares about that nobody lmao, why are you even bringing his name up

Red Bull did create a Technical Director role for Waché and have kind of been sidelining Newey since the present regs appeared, so maybe he isn't so humble as we tend to think. It's kind of interesting that Newey as an aero guy has made comments before implying that he spent all his time on the suspension for the 2022-2024 cars when suspension is more Waché's field as a tire and suspension guy. If we look at his patterns of behavior, the man leaves teams when he doesn't get to have extreme degrees of decision-making, including famously that he wanted to be able to choose the drivers. He was pro Mansell, pro Damon Hill and later anti Montoya despite that Montoya is probably a much better driver, and things at Mclaren ended up devolving into in-fighting where Mercedes suggested his designs weren't accommodating for the engines and was leading to reliability issues. The man also has a history of the occasional fundamentally flawed aero design that doesn't get owned up to for half a season. Prost said the Williams cars were difficult and annoying to drive even when they had active suspension, there was an entire Mclaren design that had to go unused, and the 2019-2020 Red Bulls had aero gremlins that made them want to spin out.

He's definitely a genius, but most people just praise Newey as a way of diminishing Max's talent.

​@@n8pls543"But he's a genius tho"... I certainly remember when Mr Newey was more than a little upset that he couldn't be an authority on driver selection... I reckon he's going to Ferrari to design a car for Mr Hamilton. It may be a dud but it's all about the storybook ending.

@@n8pls543 People forgot that RB only looks competitive for years because Max somehow able to tame the car. And that's an exception, not the rule as they have rotating second drivers that nowhere near dominating if we remove Max from the result. This is unlike Mercedes domination where both drivers are dominating the rest of the field.

@@sonicslv6132 this is a really great point.

Newey won't work with a bluffer like James Vowles. He's too experienced in dealing with all the 🐂💩 of Formula 1 & will see straight thru' Vowles' overly-worded blame game excuses such as somebody else's Excel spreadsheets...

With the paycheque that Ferrari, Aston and possibly Mercedes will offer him.. There’s no fucking way he goes to Williams

I also think he will keep going, it's his passion after all. I think that Newey was fed up with the power struggles inside Red Bull, people on both sides trying to get him on their side, pushing and pulling and manipulating. Newey just wants to build cars and make them go fast, and he needs a stable environment around him. If anyone can offer him that, and a proper salary to come along with it, he would most definitively keep going a few more years, I have no doubt about that.

@@FabledGentleman Hence WHY it was such a horrid idea @RB to start a civil war. But you know how it goes: King is dead? (Mateschitz) Long live the King! (after we've settle some personal scores n matter what). The result? Some eventually make it, some fall of the cliff...

@@FabledGentleman nobody wants him to retire! it's just that if he wanted to, people would understand. he has nothing to prove anymore at his age.

He definitely isn't going to retire from designing, but he might retire from f1.

@@patepulkkinenvtec2403 A few people close to him are saying he wants to focus on the America' cup.

They will all get exposed without Newey. So will Max. No more easy wins for the statpadder without Newey's rocketships.

From the media, perhaps. Newey himself has always credited the entire design team around him for the work done, and the same goes for Red Bull.

​@@NandoFIT-df8lyYou're perpetually drunk if you don't see Verstappen's importance to red bull

@@Mark-zk3gu same can be said for adrian

@@halofreak1990 we know but most people still give credit to newey for every fricking thing like bro Pierre wache and other engineers ?

I had to go premium, this was one of the reasons

Yeah, it's too damn low

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Advertising has always been louder than the content. Did you never watch TV as a kid?

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Guys this is the original comment that got copied

The idea that Newey doesn't get enough credit is complete nonsense of the last 3 dominant champions two of them are credited to Newey Martin Brundle even called him the most important man in F1 when he stood on the podium with Vettel. If anything he gets far too much credit form the salty British media who didn't hail Mike Elliot as an engineering God when his cars won everything the difference being their favourite driver was driving them.

​@@ronmastrio2798 totally makes sense. Now the only unanswered question is will Max be as dominant in the enxt season as he is now. If yes then its Max and not Newey. We have to wait till that fingers crossed

@@aravindhdeivag111 it wont be that quick, red bull is still the fastest car and likely will stay so until the rule change in 2026

@@aravindhdeivag111 If they're still the fastest in 25 people will just say it's because it's an evolution of Newey's design and if they drop down the order in 26 that will mostly be down to the engine anyway. Doubtless people will try and say it's because they don't have him anymore but there was nothing even he could do in 2014 with a terrible engine. Ironically it was Enzo Ferrari who famously said "aerodynamics are for people who can't build engines" and the last time the engines had major regulation changes Ferrari and Red Bull suffered from poor engine development.

One of his ambitions was to work with Ferrari, the other was to work with Fernando Alonso

He'll be 2 or 3 years older when he's released from contract

How will he be 2 or 3 years older in 2025?

@frogandspanner he's 65 now. Could turn 66 this year. Will be released from employment from RB spring 2025. They easily could leave the non compete clause in place for a year after release (his original contract was end of 2025). That could put him off the table until end of 2026. Hence, he'd be a few years older.

Yeah 65 is such a huge difference from 68 (not). I’m going to enjoy the next 12 months of speculation and Ferarri hype only for it to be derailed when Newey retires 😂

and to think he bagged a spice girl lmaoo

@@afrofantom6631 he has no rizz 😂😂

Deffo

@@afrofantom6631lol Geri is a freak, he can keep her 😂

@@afrofantom6631 Haha. One that was past its expiration date.

As long as Papa Stroll has power in Aston, Lance won't be replaced sadly. Unless he gets bored with F1 himself. But screw that, I would still love to see Newey at AM, Alonso has everything it takes to win a championship, he only needs the car capable of doing so.

The problem was Newey wanted stroll jnr out if he was even to consider joining them.But golden boy stroll is staying so...ferrari it is.

Thought the same! @Ferrari he'll just be another piece in the puzzle "enjoying" Italian politics that is. But if he stays in F1, he'll make sure is Mark reverberates in F! history. Join a Jr. team with potential and brin git to the top: Aston (money and potential) Williams (his "Alma Matter").

Won’t happen

Fuck that orange bike. I need to see the blue Japanese bike back on top.

HRC's issues go way beyond the winglets.

Well hopefully they get rid of all the wings after 2026 anyways

If we want a japanese bike at the front, it'd better be a Yamaha

Sometimes you’re only as old as you feel. Maybe he retires maybe not.

He's not going anywhere

Shh don't tell Lewis fans 😂

The majority of people don’t know who Pierre Wache is.

Cope

The reason being that they didn't think they could get Newey...

Well, probably because it was thought Waché would be a much easier target... who could imagine Newey would leave? Not to take anything from Waché of course.

Newey Ain't going to Ferrari or any other team. There are no Credible source for it just some fans spreading rumours . Also Newey is so much respected within Redbull that he won't harm them by joining another team for loads of money which RB can easily Cash out if that was the case. The Atmosphere that he gets in RB also cannot be achieved under any other team. He is just leaving F1 for a while to work on other stuff And that's Understandable The amount of responsibility he had on his shoulders for 20 straight years would be Overwhelming for even the best of the best. He needs some time to rest n enjoy life Max has won 4 championships now. And RB also has achieved alot under Newey era as a whole The Legend needs some time off He deserves it 😇

@@AkilahHussain169 that’s a big ass reply for some shit I never said

@@ATLienXenu You said if he switches and I said he ain't switching

@@AkilahHussain169 But he was spotted numerous times at the Bologna airport.....don't know what to make of it but it could be that he was visiting maranello.

Of course they won't, they still have Pierre Waché on board for instance, but that idea is proportional to the weight people gave Newey in Red Bull's success.

People acting like Newey wasn't a major part of all Red Bull success

Tell that to Williams

lol nobody said that, Redbull will still be very strong in the next 2-3 seasons without Newey. But this could be similar situation like Ferrari after Schumacher left, then Brawn and Todt followed him by leaving also. Newey leaving RB will have chain effect where some important people within its organization will also leave and RB wont be as potent as they are now

But it will slow down their development and other teams would eventually catch up

Newey Ain't going to Ferrari or any other team. There are no Credible source for it just some fans spreading rumours . Also Newey is so much respected within Redbull that he won't harm them by joining another team for loads of money which RB can easily Cash out if that was the case. The Atmosphere that he gets in RB also cannot be achieved under any other team. He is just leaving F1 for a while to work on other stuff And that's Understandable The amount of responsibility he had on his shoulders for 20 straight years would be Overwhelming for even the best of the best. He needs some time to rest n enjoy life Max has won 4 championships now. And RB also has achieved alot under Newey era as a whole The Legend needs some rest now He deserves it 😇

I agree. When they said that about the recognition, I was astounded. He's basically worshipped! I* haven't heard him give any credit to the others involved. *Not saying he hasn't, just that _I_ haven't heard it.

@@y_fam_goeglyd exactly, I've also never heard anyone else get any credit. Another astonishing moment was when they said something along the lines of: "He doesn't need to be offered lots of money". Well then why has he been charging RB >£10 million for his services?

Newey Ain't going to Ferrari or any other team. There are no Credible source for it just some fans spreading rumours . Also Newey is so much respected within Redbull that he won't harm them by joining another team for loads of money which RB can easily Cash out if that was the case. The Atmosphere that he gets in RB also cannot be achieved under any other team. He is just leaving F1 for a while to work on other stuff And that's Understandable The amount of responsibility he had on his shoulders for 20 straight years would be Overwhelming for even the best of the best. He needs some time to rest n enjoy life Max has won 4 championships now. And RB also has achieved alot under Newey era as a whole The Legend needs some rest now He deserves it 😇

Newey has been a LEGEND forever, agree. And doesn't seem to be the (subs & likes) addicted guy chasing fame. I'd say the politics @RB sickened him and he is right; RB is running the risk of falling apart in the near future just because of egos. Dumb fools! Anyway wish him the best and i do hope that if he leaves RB he stays away from F1.

That’s upon him to decide. Whatever team he ends up signing with will most likely be his last team anyways.

Very true...he has other interest outside F1 and he's in his 60s....let him enjoy his time....

He's not retiring

you are desperate for him to not go Ferrari hahaha, go cope somewhere else

Newey Ain't going to Ferrari or any other team. There are no Credible source for it just some fans spreading rumours . Also Newey is so much respected within Redbull that he won't harm them by joining another team for loads of money which RB can easily Cash out if that was the case. The Atmosphere that he gets in RB also cannot be achieved under any other team. He is just leaving F1 for a while to work on other stuff And that's Understandable The amount of responsibility he had on his shoulders for 20 straight years would be Overwhelming for even the best of the best. He needs some time to rest n enjoy life Max has won 4 championships now. And RB also has achieved alot under Newey era as a whole The Legend needs some rest now He deserves it 😇

One thing is to attempt something the other is to accomplish it. This will be Ferrari's what? 3rd attempt at replicating Schumi's era: ALO, VET, HAM? TBH I don't see Newey @Ferrari, where he's just another piece of the puzzle. IF he remains in F1, I see him joining a Team where his Mark would reverberate in history: Williams, Aston, maybe even Audi (if German egos allow).

@@AkilahHussain169 relax dude, I never said he was going there, just that Lewis always wanted to drive his car

Lewis get's really butthurt when he doesn't have a front running car the entitlement is crazy.

Thought the ame BUT... German egos @Audi/VW? There'll be a LOT happening within that team until it starts performing, a LOT.

Aston & Alonso are mid. Why would he do such a thing?

@@yougotkained Daddy Stroll has deep pockets. Could make him an offer he can't refuse.

He going enjoy retirement ​@@yougotkained

​@@yougotkained Rick & Morty PFP calling something mid

What does that suppose to mean? Downplaying Max dont make sense anymore. 🤫😂

​@@gollese When max has a period like lewis everybody will give him the same treatment as lewis

@@jathiyakhan720 Max already had that period, namely prior to 2021

@@halofreak1990 no he did not because he had no dominant period prior to 2022. However after he falls from dominance as well people will treat him like lewis too

@@jathiyakhan720 The point is he won races without a dominant car while Lewis has had ten seasons in a front running car making him the most privileged driver in F1 history.

No

@@yougotkained I don't think it'll ever happen either. But like I said "plot twist."😂

FOM hasn’t said Andretti isn’t competitive… it’s actually the opposite, they are afraid they will come in and steal the show.

People who knows motorsport knows the right answer to this. Max wouldnt be the most consistent driver ever set foot in F1 if it was all "newey"

This years car was made by wache

You put any legendary driver in a mid car and they wouldn't win a single race. You put any midfield driver in a dominant car and they will win

are you suggesting max would win these championships in any other car besides the RB? it's absolutely newey

Of course it's Newey. Justl ike it never was Hamilton.

he will after he finished working on RB17

Still the best driver on the grid either way and won in subpar cars from 16-20 while others can’t now (ham) , I’m sure he’ll survive

Haha, Max are the best driver. He has nothing to worry about.

Salty Pamilton fan detected. Max owns your idolo.

He's still quite young, imagine if he meets Newey again at Ferrari in 4/5 years time...

His career is already legendary, he'll be fine.

Newey Ain't going to Ferrari or any other team. There are no Credible source for it just some fans spreading rumours . Also Newey is so much respected within Redbull that he won't harm them by joining another team for loads of money which RB can easily Cash out if that was the case. The Atmosphere that he gets in RB also cannot be achieved under any other team. He is just leaving F1 for a while to work on other stuff And that's Understandable The amount of responsibility he had on his shoulders for 20 straight years would be Overwhelming for even the best of the best. He needs some time to rest n enjoy life Max has won 4 championships now. And RB also has achieved alot under Newey era as a whole The Legend needs some rest now He deserves it 😇