"I know it's not a real Cherokee, but that's what it says on the side." LOL!!!! I'm with you Ivan- miss those boxy 4.0L Jeeps.

Remember when four-wheel drive used to just be a lever on the floor and you'd have to get out to lock the hubs? This is what you get for being lazy.

That vehicle is only 7 miles past 123,456 miles. That must have been when the 4WD failed.

I have a 91 S-10 Blazer. It goes into 4wd every time I shift the mechanical linkage into that range. Gosh, somehow it works without electronics and modules. Imagine that!

Common failure in all vehicles. The engineers cram those right by exhaust manifolds and put a half of a quart of fluid in them. To make matters worse they sell the new unit with the fluid already in them. If you look at the service interval table you will see no mention of that unit. So many vehicles are designed to fail. Transmissions with no serviceable filter, internal water pumps, and on and on it goes. Expensive junk. Jeep, Ford,Chevy doesn't matter.

And folks wonder why I'm so adamant on keeping my 1993 C1500 running... Earlier this Summer I spent a couple of months chasing an internal electrical issue with the 4L60E transmission. After fixing that problem, the shifter shaft seal decided to start an every-ten-minute drip. Most likely due to my excessive PRNDL shifting diagnosing the electrical issue and the 30 year old seal. Up on the jack stands it goes again for a rather uneventful shifter shaft seal removal and replacement. Easy peasy! Modern cars have a 10 year lifespan given all the modules, software, and unnecessary tech in them. No thank you!

I had a 2015 Cherokee. It felt like a fine running car until my first oil change when the dealer disabled second gear because the ZF transmissions were failing in second gear. From then on it was the worst performing dangerous POS to drive. The transmission would overheat in traffic and the 4WD system would disengage in sand or mud as soon as I needed it. It was a swindle by FCA for sure and they never made it right so I will never buy another FCA product again.

It's a shame what they've done to Jeep as a brand. I had a 1993 XJ over here in the UK. It was a great vehicle whose only drawback was its thirst, which I improved by fitting a stainless replacement manifold (the original had cracked). Ended up getting 22 mpg (Imp) 18.3 mpg (US) - plus 20%!

Amen to comment about cars being over computerized and mechanically weak! Computers are where the manufacturer is spending their R&D money now. Pretty color touch screens and advanced features sell cars.

Ivan is definiely one of the best Automotive Diagnostic Technicians on KZfaq. Still learning from his methods and knowledge. Thank you PHAD

It's funny, when electronically shifted 4WD first became popular, everyone hated the complexity and the possibility of losing 4WD when you need it most. But at least you could replace individual parts; transfer case shift motor, axle/hub disconnects, 4WD selector buttons, etc. Nowadays, manufacturers feel the need to integrate EVERYTHING and make none of it serviceable. One little problem and you're replacing entire driveline components. I love my 2001 Expedition more and more everyday for the simple fact that damn near everything on it is serviceable.

It's funny that we still think of a 2015 as a "New car", when it's actually 8 years old and is not new at all. I still think of early 2000's vehicles as "new cars" because I graduated high school in 2000 and they were brand new back then; so I have to catch myself and realize that so many years have passed since then. :) .. I do understand your "new car" sentiment though: the new era- when cars are supposed to be designed more fancy but instead they are just more prone to breaking. They tried to "fix" things that weren't a problem. 90's and early 2000's vehicles were great designs and we need to go back to those simpler rugged times... before they were slapping everything including the horn on a can bus.. before auto start stop.. before cylinder deactivation.. before particulate filters.. even before variable valve timing.. before AWD when 4x4 meant you had 4H and 4L.... but definitely after carburetors and distributors. There's a peak time there in the middle where we had fuel injection and coil on plug engines--- and Nothing else.. and they ran forever. I still have two vehicles from 2002. lol.. 2002 F350 7.3L 6spd 4x4.. and 2002 Acura MDX. I'm afraid to get anything newer.

Thanks for the video. Thank God I have a 2004 Honda Element that I bought new. Only have replaced intake manifold gasket and VTEC solenoid. I have 230,000 miles and service it routinely. i would love to have a new car but unfortunately most of them are junk.

That is why I drive a 96 Dodge Ram with the twelve valve Cummins turbo diesel and a five speed manual transmission.

Had a friend buy a brand new jeep grand Cherokee (told him it was a mistake). It made it through the test drive and halfway home and never started again. They lemoned it 4 months later after a fight but had sold his trade in.

I've owned many Cherokees and Grand Cherokees. The last was a 1998 JGC with the big 5.9. All were amazing but sadly I will not own another. This video is just one more on the internet that confirms my position.

The Uconnect infotainment system has to be replaced. Everything works except the GPS function. Basically the chip responsible for the GPS location gets too hot and goes bad, and is not a software problem. I was able to buy a rebuilt one from the dealer for $600 with a two year warranty, and have not had any problems since. But that begs the (rhetorical) question - what happens when the computers and their software updates are no longer available? So much for keeping your vehicle more than a few years.

Have replaced about 25 ptus. That 4.0hrs labor is a joke. Its all of 6-7hrs if everything goes as planned. If not under warranty we always double the time

Videos like this is why I still own, 2, 1998 Chevy trucks, a 1992 Chevy Cavalier, and a 1970 Monte Carlo. My newest vehicle is a 2014 Mustang GT which knock on wood, has been pretty reliable but it only has about 36,000 miles on it so it may be too soon to tell. The one problem with keeping these older vehicles going is that it's hard to get quality replacement parts. The 92 Cavalier has been pretty reliable except for ICM's and coils and none of the replacement parts last long including the AC-Delco parts that I last bought. I'm still going to keep these things going for as long as possible.

Apparently, a transfer case with an external shift motor is no longer a thing... Ford has been using PTUs also on AWD vehicles, such as Explorers, which fail too often as well. Its a small unit that overheats and leaks the gear oil until there is catastrophic damage! Great cost saving idea 👍

There's a reason I'm still driving a 29 year old truck...and it's not because I can't afford a new one !

That 9-Speed ZF tranny is one wonky transmission. Loves to shift and does so constantly. Going over a small overpass on the highway I counted 8 shifts to do so. It can get confused at times by so much shifting hat it will go into limp mode, luckily a quick reset will fix it. For long trips on the highway I just manually keep it in high gear and go. One other thing, don't ignore the fluid change interval, you don't want to have to replace that unit.

Great video Ivan. My 2016 Caravan radio got cooked in the multi 100 degree heat this summer and it was as much to fix as me buying an upgraded radio with navigation and Android Auto/ Car play and it retained the factory steering wheel buttons. These factory radios constantly have the amps burn out I think due to no van internally to vent excess heat. But I'll give Dodge this, the radio to less than a hour to remove and install the new one including wiring everything. I always say with Dodge "If it ain't broke yet, it will be"

The only REAL PROBLEM I have with my 2 90's Jeep's are FREAKIN RUST, here in N.E. PA. THE OLE RUST BELT. Both have the OLE RELIABLE 4.0 ENGINE'S & SELEC-TRAC. VERY EASY TO WORK ON & PRETTY CHEAP TO REPAIR, PARTS ARE EVERY WHERE.

I love my two 96's and a 99 cherokee. Whole family drives cars that are not only reliable but I can fix myself.

0:23 sounded like I just slammed the door to my 86 Silverado 😂

There is a message out for some Jeeps about the PTU - they have a 15 year unlimited mileage on them, so it might be worth looking and seeing if this one is included in the warranty action (I've got a 2015 TH that is in the included group)

Just passed 333,333 miles on my real Cherokee. It doesn't have computers that fail, which is a large part of why it's still going at 300k+ miles. Can buy anything I need to fix on it at NAPA, usually in stock.

Never heard anything good about those Cherokees. A friend had a 2014 V6 Latitude and the rear wheel engagement was always with a noticeable jerk/bump. I own a 2008 Grand Cherokee and fortunately it has only needed a couple batteries, a starter, and an alternator. Otherwise it's been a very reliable vehicle.

Thanks Ivan. No mystery to solve today just digital wrapped mechanical systems that are not designed for durability.

Thanks Ivan.. I'm keeping my 2009 Honda Odyssey EX (non VCM) with 255k. Still running strong, but if a similar one with low miles shows up, I'll replace it with the same for another 10 years of driving. Keep up the great videos.

Well one thing that I always say is....... what's the point of having fuel efficient cars where you save on gas but spend tons of money on repairs. High tech does not mean dependable.

OMG: Ivan, I have been working on my Brother's 2015 Cherokee Trailhawk with the two speed rear differential with the same dash warning that the 4WD system isn't available. Its been a nightmare partially due to my Thinktool Pros introducing fault codes that are really not there and sending me down rabbit holes. Everytime I used the "Pros", the car goes crazy with codes like a shifter assembly, then steering angle sensor, then power steering codes and on and on. Sometimes I couldn't erase the codes to get rid of the check engine light. Finally, I cleared them with a cheap code reader. On my second round of diagnosis, a few weeks later, I used an Autel BT906 and finally I got just the drivetrain codes which indicate the rear drivetrain module which is another term for the entire rear differential. This two speed differential uses hydraulic fluid and a pump. And it says you have to replace the entire unit that is not available even if you wanted to buy one. If you want to check the hydraulic fluid, you have to lower the rear differential 4" to remove the top cover and then do a differential bleed procedure. Right now, my brother just drives it in two wheel drive (130,000 miles on it). So for me its a double whammy - My Thinktool Pros doesn't scan correctly and then I have to deal with no parts available. Terrible engineering and quality. As far as the autostop not working, you may find the battery to be the culprit. My brothers autostop quit working which he was happy about. Then his battery went bad and as soon as it was replaced, the autostop started working again.

They were better before the mergers. Way worse under Fiat, which I believe was illegal anyway, but politicians get away with any and everything now days.

Customer: How many speeds is my automatic trans? Jeep: Yes.

The real Jeep Cherokee stopped being made around 1989. Great off-roader too. Good luck finding one and the things run forever. And..you can FIX them! The only place I'd take any newer Cherokee off-road is onto my driveway.

Good morning from Texas. I think that cars have become way to complicated, to much reliance on steeping motors and solenoids and computers, how about going back to a manual transfer case level, and things like a mechanical speedometer and a stand alone radio and other things that make the car less dependent on electronic technology. I can understand using technology to control engine emissions but these cars are becoming like military jets for every hour you drive them you have an excessive maintenance cost.

This thing is ready for the scrap yard at 120k miles.

They're junk seen this same issue on multiple vehicles already, got lucky on one doing a ptu and transmission relearn on one that actually got the code to go away and the service 4wd light but it's just a band-aid...not impressed with the quality of a lot of new vehicles. Thanks for sharing 👍!

I could live with disposable cars if they were actually inexpensive to repair or replace, but they are neither. Far from it. And that's my irritation.

That thing is a Jeep in name only with all that electronic gadgetry. If I ever buy a NEW one again it just might be a Ford Bronco but I doubt I will ever buy a new one but just keep my 2002 TJ Wrangler Sport going with whatever repairs it takes. I live in Southern California so I don't have rust issues. No cruise control, no anti-lock breaks, no automatic transmission or electric lockers. The air conditioning is not as cold now but it has not been serviced since it was new. Getting that serviced is on my to-do list.

I never got into programming Jeep/Dodge either. There are 3 different fee structures you have to pay to have access. Got 1/2 way through the process and gave up. Too much $ involved to program one of these. GM/Ford are fairly streamlines and are reasonably priced for access.

Idk about Pennsylvania, but here in Georgia we have a lemon law. Basically, if you purchase a new car that is a "lemon" and having to repeatedly have issues fixed within a certain time frame, the dealership must give you a new car.

Know when to walk. Smart Decsion, Ivan.

I'll hang on to my 1999 Jeep Cherokee. 200k miles and still going strong. Easy to work on, parts cheap and plentiful.

Watching an SMA video and you get a notification of a PHAD video. I call that a good start to a weekend. Now off to kick some butt on the golf course.

Ivan, if you get this car back again for the navigation issue, check to see if the satellite radio works. Channel 184 is always free even without subscription. On my 2015 Grand Cherokee, with similar audio system, the satellite and GPS antennas share a housing and cable. If the satellite antenna is disconnected for a long period of time , GPS gradually drifts hundreds of miles away like you’re seeing. If satellite radio doesn’t work, check the antenna, cable, and cable connections.

Had a 2015 Cherokee work provided transmission went out at 4200 miles after using the remote start. Jeep tech said they were assembled wrong in Italy. $9000 repair to keep OEM for the repair under warranty. Best thing the auto start broke. Had vehicle until 2023 only had 35,000 miles when returned. They asked if i wanted to buy it big no.

I remember some KZfaqrs have found that not maintaining equal tire size and air pressures can contribute to these PTU’s failing early due to slight wheel speed differences front to rear over time.

Not great news for the customer but what's to do ? Buying new models can be hazardous with no previous history. Better to buy an older car with proven track record. Very thorough diagnosis and job well done 👍👍👍

I have a 2015 Cherokee Trailhawk that is currently at the dealership with a failed PTU. A year and a half ago they replaced the actuator. On June 19 2024 after making a right turn and hitting the gas a loud bang followed by loud clunking occurred. Limped it home, then limped it to the dealership. As I'm talking to the Service Agent, I look back at the vehicle and see oil pouring out of it. The PTU completely cracked open. They said the extended FCU warranty on the PTU won't cover it, a code needs to be present, lol. It is August 4, 2024 right now and they have no idea when a PTU will be available. After a 2K month of rental car for a month bill, I just went and bought a new truck. When the Jeep does get fixed it will cost me about $4200 US for the PTU work. I'm done with FCA vehicles. This vehicle will become my POS backup vehicle. If I let them fix all the things they say it needs, the bill would be 9K. I told them I don't care, let the engine leak, let the axels leak. I'm gonna drive it into the ground and haul it to the junkyard. 122K miles on it.

I have a 2015 that I just picked up 6months ago. It had only 33k on the odo. I had it for 1month from a major dealer. Then one night I got the 4wd service, auto start stop, and a reduced power warning. I was pissed and was getting ready to take it back to dealer. When I came across one internet posting that suggested a new battery. For S&Gs I changed the battery... and bam no more issues. Apparently these model jeeps are extremely sensitive to the battery. My original checked fine, except that the battery tester said 80% life left but, the Cherokee was not happy. Again replaced the battery and all issues disappeared

The government should force Chrysler to repair this. Leave the keys hopefully someone drives it away, assuming he can 😅

I'm with you Ivan. It saddens me to say this but those newer "Jeep" branded vehicles they call the Cherokee and Compass and Patriot are nothing more than disposable vehicles.

The main reason they get away with poor build quality is that most people don't have the basic mechanical knowledge they did 30-40 years ago. I repaired a transmission fault on a Citroen C4 a few weeks ago, customer owned it 7 years and was totally amazed when I told them it wasnt an automatic transmission, it was a manual transmission with a computer operating the clutch and stick. Fault was one of the shift position sensors internally shorted. Crazy listening to it clunk up and down the gears when carrying out the relearn procedure!

A good video to know about if you have a jeep person in your family.

My 1996 Subaru Impreza 5 speed MT daily driver is always is all wheel drive.........Yea I paid 1 grand for it 8 years ago.

start stop, one of the dumbest designs the bean counters and greenies came up with 😮

I just replaced my engine in a 2008 jeep Cherokee. Lost total compression in #6. 170000 miles on it. $6000.00 for a remanufactured engine and labor. Compared to new or used car prices. That's a bargin

I just purchased a 1996 Chevy suburban..I'm not having any of those issues and never will 😂😂😂

It's Stellantis, the European company that bought Diamler Benz ( or whatever they were calling it ). People were complaining constantly about all of their car brands being all flash but cheaply made and horrible customer satisfaction and garbage warranties. Just look up their history...disgusting. That's when the entire Jeep brand went to crap ( mid-late 2000's ).

In some(many) automatic gm's , the gears are delayed. I have the same in my opel, i would gear long before the car does. Especially from 2. To 3rd gear. It revs 3.200 rpm before it shifts.

i had same problem with my 2014 cherokee i posted 4 min video where i pulled out the ptu and took it apart to see what was wrong with it a 20 dollar motor was filled with the oil in the ptu causing it to fail

Mine did a similar thing. 2nd owner, bought mine at Auction. Took it to Jeep, technically the bulletin says I'm eligible for a free PTU replacement. Jeep refused, instead did a reflash that did little to nothing. There are two components that can be replaced. .the 4wd actuator motor on the rear differential, or, the 4wd " brain box" adjacent to the spare tire. To test, unbolt the actuator, car in the air, have someone cycle the selector. ..if it moves, everything is ok'ish. 88% of the time it's the brain box. For now, I start the car, I turn off the traction control and the auto on/off switches. ..that prevents the " service awd" light from coming on at 30mph. Oh and my driveshaft howls ar low speeds...cheap Korean made bearings. Replacement shaft is over 500$..2 hour job on a lift. Sticking with it until noise gets worse.

Just wait till one of the multi Air valve solenoids go bad. Should be within the next 20,000 or so.

Here in Australia Jeep is known for bad cars and bad support from the dealers. Jeep is in the process of pulling out of Australia to to now poor sales. Personally I wouldnt touch one with a barge pole.

Also Ivan on those vehicles if you have to replace the stereo you will need pin code for radio plus change VIN otherwise it wont work properly.and launch is worthless on this situation.

Ivan, i don't blame you for trying to keep the Pine Hollow Compound drama free. Send all the "guaranteed" comeback work to the dealer. lol

Indeed a lot of issues with Jeep. My 1990 Volvo 740 comes with on board diagnostics, a built in tool kit, rust proof break lines, springs that hold the bonnet up, and drain plugs for crank case oil, transmission fluid , and ready for this.. differential fluid. The U joints have fittings for grease. If the timing belt were to break, no worries its a non interferance design. I was able to change out the brushes in the alternator with just a stubby philips, while the alternator was on the car. Something has gone a drift with todays technology...

wow this is funny i got rid of a 2015 jeep renegade with a 2.4 and 9 speed auto 6 months ago because ever since i bought it used the trans had harsh shifts when it got cold out then about a month before i got rid of it i was getting a service 4x4 light and no one would touch it except the dealer and they wanted 2 grand just to look at it so i pulled the codes with my friends scan tool had over 20 codes and at that point i was just done with the thing and traded it in.

JEEP Cherokee XJ was the last real Cherokee 1984-2001

Kia is another one with major engine and transmission issues. Our 2017 Kia Soul started using 2 to 3 quarts of oil between oil changes (@ 3,000 to 3,500 miles between oil change). We just change the oil now, when we notice hard usage (@ 1,000 to 1,300 miles). Using a quart, in that time frame may be "normal" but not 2 to 3 quarts, between oil changes. I wish we could fix this. The PCV valve was changed and still does it. So that wasn't the issue, as a lot have suggested it is.

It isn't often you send something to the dealer, Ivan. So, you don't think this vehicle is really a "real" Cherokee? I don't think so either. I think the last "real" Cherokee was the old SJ from the "70"s. I guess the 'ol Marquis will need to run forever. At 477,000 miles it is bound to break at some point. Great video!

Many of Stellantis products are not doing well these days especially the Jeep brand, in terms of reliability but their holdover vehicles like the LD full size models, Minivans, Ram 1500 and Promaster seem to be doing alright in terms of reliability. The rest of their line up, now that they are switching to electric vehicles ( Chrysler's electrical systems in their vehicles prior to going electric were their major weak point). Funny thing is, it is not the alternator, battery or starter that goes out, it is many of the modules and wiring that either short out or have no grounds due to the cheap metal that results in the ground wires having a poor connection to the ground. Mopar's powertrains in general are decent and durable. The electrical system in Chryslers are the pits!

Anyone have any question why I will not buy a Jeep product that doesn't have the 4.0L inline 6 cylinder in it? Manual transfer case is also a must.

Ivan, I am surprised that you didn't try to rebuild that motor / actuator assembly on the transaxle. Maybe just some rust in there?

I still have a 2003 Chrysler minivan that has been quite reliable and easy/cheap to fix on the rare occasions where something does go wrong. But now it looks like the old Chrysler name has become an embarrassment in the car industry. The recent takeover by Stellantis has been especially disastrous and I think that it is seriously in jeopardy of going under unless it cuts itself free and brings in another Lee Iacocca to rescue what's left of their name.

I had a 17 Grand Caravan last week that had a flash for the HVAC module to prevent water intrusion. I swear Mopar is losing the plot... LOL On your newer Mopars, the Auto Stop/Start system will disable itself for most powertrain and drivetrain faults, as well as a failing auxiliary battery, though that will almost always set a specific code of its own. Working with body shops, that latter situation is one I run into almost daily. From Chrysler, it's a $300+ battery. For all you Mopar owners out there, you can find Lawn & Garden batteries with equal specs for far cheaper.

That's why if I ever gonna buy a Chrysler product, it will ba a Dodge / Plymouth from 1960s with 440 motor and 727 torqueflite transmission :D

Sounds about right. Chrysler front drive transverse based 4WD/AWD systems seem to have always been lemons.

Consumer law will cach up with them. Many countries say things need to be reasonably durable and that componemt is not. No longer can they say, bad luck mate...

"I don't know what to tell you. Take it to the dealer" LOL welcome to my world. And Yes those PTU's are JUNK we see them fail all the time. and the RDM's (Rear Drive Module). We call that DTC the PTU death code. Especially when someone only puts 2 new tires on it. as tires of different diameter spin at different speeds and burn those clutches right up. I've seen 4 mismatched tires on one of those take out the PTU AND the RDM.

The transfer case modules go bad on them all the time, thank goodness there plug n play

The price of that PTU. $2 000 will give me quite a bit of fuel for my Tundra. If i was buying a newere vehicle....Toyota or Honda. Now, the new Tacoma and Tundra....well we will see. Turbos can be a big problem. Stellantis doesnt build much of anything reliable. FIAT is the worst.

Needs a ptu shift actuator done dozens of em! Unless it’s blown up but you would know if it was lol

When I heard that start-stop was an item in this video, I was hoping that Ivan would roast the dual battery system that Chrysler uses in many of their implementations (although I'm not sure on this Cherokee). Hopefully next time. :D

I had a 2013 Jeep Gran Cherokee but the only issue was with tht DTCM. Replaced it and all good. It would disabled the start stop function.

Just Empty Every Pocket 😂

Everything new is garbage. All the more reason I'm keeping my 2000 grand cherokee for as long as I can. The NP247 quadra trac transfer case and the vari-lok diffs front and rear are still working flawlessly with 180k on the clock

The problem with cherokee transfer cases is they are auto all wheel drive so if computer senses wheels spinning at diff rates it engages 4wheel. If your tires have unbalanced tread like new on front and old on back or not rotating them enough it causes transfer case to continuously engage and unengage burning the transfer case out in time. If u have Quadra trac make sure ur rotating tires every 3k to 5k miles and when buying new buy all 4 not just 2. Your welcome

Dealer might say: "too old, we don't work on that stuff anymore, take it to an independent."

These companies just keep turning out crap. They know its crap but the solution is to replace it with more crap. And it will break again out of warranty. They know it but don’t care.

Thanks, I was thinking about buying one of those, I'm sticking with second generation.

The Compass PHEV of my wife gave 2 weeks ago a message on the screen that there were updates for the car. I logged the car in to the internet and the car downloaded the new software. After that I switched the car off en put it on contact again. Now the SRV 4WD lite in orange on the dash was on. Also the buttons on the console for 4WD dit not work anymore. I drove the car round the block and it did not change. The next day I went to the dealer on my motorbike to make an appointment. Later that afternoon I went to the farmacy (1 mile) when I came out the farmacy and put the car on contact the message was gone and the buttons worked again. The car has done 4000 km (2500 miles) at that time.

SO NOW YOU KNOW WHY THEY STOPPED THE PRODUCTION LINE FOR THE CHEROKEE

Type this into KZfaq search, funny music video about a guy who bought a Jeep, I mean LEMON: "I Made A Mistake I Bought A Lemon Jeep song by Teggy - Jeep Grand Cherokee, what a lemon! "

These "modern" manufacturers seem to love adding excess electronic controls to everything. Example: A switch signals a body control module which in turn signal a window control module and the window will move. I am completely disgusted by all these so called improvements. I like manual transmissions, hand window cranks, manual 4WD operating levers. A 2015 Jeep Renegade won't enter 4 WD if the engine thermostat should fail. What kind of improvement is that? It's a safety hazard if you need 4WD.

My best case scenario: are new cars better than older ones? This video kind of answers that question. They are certainly lots safer in an accident.. Occupants are absolutely protected better than cars from 1980's and 1990's. They are also more luxurious with many features older cars never had. I'm 75 yrs old so had experience with many vehicles starting from the '50's and '60's but mostly '80's and '90's vehicles. Currently have a '98 Grand Cherokee with inline 4L 6 daily driver. All through the '80's and '90's my generation got along just fine without all the luxury stuff just fine. I also have a '07 Grand Cherokee diesel and a '17 Grand Cherokee Laredo. Out of all of them I would really like to be able to purchase a brand new 1998. Lousey ergonomics inside without most modetn luxury features, navigation, stupid ass touch screen, and so on but all things considered it doed what I need it to do and it's as reliable as a hammer, parts less expensive, can fix it with a screw driver, pliers and crescent wrench. So considering new car problems and idiot ass can buss, ecu, unreliable and horribly expensive parts I would be so happy if someone would make a new exact '98. The current genetations think you need all that touch screen, apps, etc, but my generation proved that you can be just as happy without and maybe even travel more because your not spending ridiculous money on repairs like in this video so will have more cash in your pockets. Another example: I have never replaced a license plate light bulb in the '98 but when it needs one it's $1.00 bulb. One of the two license plate LED license plate bulbs has already failed on my '17. So replace the bulb..... no way! Need to replace both bulbs with the complete wiring harness because it has to talk to the can buss. $150 +!!!!! (Insert bad word here) Here's what to do: shop some junkyards to find a good rust free newer vehicle that has been scrapped because it's too expensive to replace engines, transmissions, whatever. Gut it! Throw away the motor, transmissions, gut the dashboard, get rid of all the ecu and can buss stuff. Replace the engine and drivetrain with a crate engine / transmission etc from the '80's or '90's. Choose the brand you like. All the manufactures in that era made some drivetrains that were reliable so pick your favorite (mine would be the Jeep 4L inline 6 with corresponding 42re transmission). Rewire the dash with analogue gauges. There you go.

Ironically, i've seen that same NAV issue on another Chrysler and a software update didn't fix it. The entire head unit had to be replaced. The dealer tried a) hard reset via battery disconnect, then b) software update, then, after much thought and discontent, had to resort to c) replacing the entire NAV unit to fix the problem.

GPS system on the fritz? Just buy a portable one from Garmin for a hundred bucks.