Me too

Same, in love with my Dewalt XR, get a boner at every screws in 😂

@@rhinoman5078 tf bro took it too far

@@yobtnirp it’s the internet… there is no such thing as too far 😂😂

At work, when no one is looking I sometimes drive in screws for absolutely no reason😄. Especially if I find a nice long fat one. The longer the better but the girth is what really counts. Size really does matter ☺️

Yeah I understand some people might not have the control, but I always use my impact. Also the brand quality will help with being able to control it and keep it low speed, I could see cheaper ones not have the same finesse.

The new makita impact is amazing. Has all kinds of settings. Torq levels, one for self tapping screws, even one for bolts. The most controls on an impact ive seen. I still rarely use them and just use my finger as variable speed. But at least they're there if i need them.

​@@jacksmith2315 what model is that? Not sure if it's sold here in my country. Should I buy drill or impact? I want to DIY carpentry works at home. Mostly 15mm plywood. Will impact damage the screws or overkill? Btw, I already own Bosch drill 500w but it's corded

@barberismeable its the xdt-16. The newest 18v makita makes. Probably about 2yrs old now. If you already have a corded drill, id get an impact. With an impact, you can do pretty much everything a hammer drill can do except drill concrete, since they make pretty much everything with the quick change/quick lock ends now. Its not too much for any task, because you can adjust settings, or not squeeze the trigger all the way and jus release your finger before something gets too tight since almost everything has variable speed triggers. I have both hammer drill and impact so i pretty much use my impact for fasteners and drill for drilling holes, but sometimes ill put a spade/paddle bit on my impact and blast right thru stuff super fast when im doing rough work and dont need a really clean hole.

Impact is high "horsepower" but low torque which then allows you for very precise control. Like it can spin rapidly but when hitting a certain threshold of torque it will stop just as rapidly. Drill drivers on the other hand are very high torque, but low horsepower - they spin slowly, but they with chew right through your Philips bits and screws like nothing with almost no feedback. Like a sport bike vs a semi. Or another way to describe it is steering. With hydraulic steering, you're in tune with every nuance of the road; every bump and imperfection travels through the wheel to your hands. Electric steering, leave you feeling disconnected - everything's too smooth, too insulated. Exactly the same as Impact vs a drill. And the only reason why it's not obvious to everyone is because drills have torque control and impacts don't have them. The key difference lies in the torque control: drills come with this feature, allowing you to set a torque threshold and avoid overdoing it. But here's the catch - materials like wood aren't consistent, making it nearly impossible to find a 'one-torque-fits-all' setting. Impacts, with their raw, unforgiving power, demand a more seasoned hand. A slight excess pressure on the trigger, and you've overdriven a screw or split the wood. Beginners often lean towards drills, seeking to avoid these mishaps, and over time, they develop a comfort and proficiency with them. But this comfort can become a barrier to mastering the impact driver, which, in skilled hands, can outperform a drill. The longer this goes on - the harder to switch. But this whole debate goes down to this. I worked with someone who was about as experienced as I am and about as fast as I am. He was way faster than couple of other guys. Still, I was faster than him with my old impact. I didn't mess up a single screw and I finished identical piece before him. And I think if he mastered the impact it would be reversed - he would be faster than me.

Thanks AJ! yeah this video is definitely geared towards the home hobbyist woodworker. Trigger control is definitely very important when doing delicate things.

I can confirm most people don't know how to use a variable trigger, they think its on or off. Case in point, tasked my laborer to install the trim ring on a shower mixing valve, heard the BRRRRRRRRRT and knew nothing good was to come of that. Couple hours of trying to find the right length and size screws, right color paint and some trial and error, got the trim ring installed. You can go as slow as you want with variable triggers, most people just send it and blame the bit for the slippage.

Listening to someone drill holes with an impact all day drives me crazy.

@Hloy Hesit i was doing a painting job at a friends house a few days and had to remove and install mini blinds and curtains with a sleeping baby in the next room. It was actually quiter to use my impact that my drill. It was almost 15yrs ago, and my first 12v dewalt brushed set. The impact only hit a couple times, then quietly spun the screws out wo impacting. The drill made the screws screech really loud the entire time, both pulling them and putting them back in the existing holes. I was pretty shocked by that. I thought for sure the impact would have been louder.

"professional cabinet maker' would be about as far from hobbyist level as you can get though.

Also there's a drill chuck adapter for impact. It's kinda bulky, but nice when you need it; which is rare and I've only used it with a 90° adapter. It's a savior (90°); surprisingly comes up for me more often than the pivoting bit holders.

There's also a driver that you can switch the whole head so you can have a drill, driver, 90°/right angle/ and offset all in one tool. You can install the 90° and offset in multiple positions to have it where you need it in tight spaces. Milwaukee has one in ther m12 line, but i dont like how it has the hand guard making it like like some kind of phaser or something. Dewalt has one in their 12v line thats just like a typical drill or driver. I got the dewalt.

I thought he was going to mention the advantage of an impact just hammering instead of the drill twisting your wrist when they bind

i need Anti-kickback system :)

in the shops i have worked in everyone mostly used impacts except when needing to using multiple bits. really only used drills for drilling holes we only predrilled if we felt it would be needed but never really had an issue with splitting most screws we used were self tapping, i will say though i used a spade bit on an impact and was blown away how well and fast it worked. we did mostly cabinetry but i mostly did countertops and doors so i didn't use screws as often as others.

Same, I try to stick to using them separately when I can. Either can technically do the others job, sure, but the impact driver does SOOO much better at driving Send and the drill is easier to control and is way quieter for drilling.

They have a bit that flips so you can predrill and screw all with one bit. I never used one but seen them used a few times. Pretty handy. Its 1/4 hex/quick change so you can put it on your impact

what model is that? Not sure if it's sold here in my country. Should I buy drill or impact? I want to DIY carpentry works at home. Mostly 15mm plywood. Will impact damage the screws or overkill? Btw, I already own Bosch drill 500w but it's corded

It's almost opposite for me. Impact have more control, drills have more consistent torque. So I use impact for handling delicate screws or just about anything except drilling. And I use my hammer drill for drilling and for hammer drilling because it's more consistent where you don't care about feedback as much, just need powerful unstoppable torque with controlled speed. If you learn how to use impact you will be faster with it.

OR I can copy paste this comment here to explain further: "Impact is high "horsepower" but low torque which then allows you for very precise control. Like it can spin rapidly but when hitting a certain threshold of torque it will stop just as rapidly. Drill drivers on the other hand are very high torque, but low horsepower - they spin slowly, but they with chew right through your Philips bits and screws like nothing with almost no feedback. Like a sport bike vs a semi. Or another way to describe it is steering. With hydraulic steering, you're in tune with every nuance of the road; every bump and imperfection travels through the wheel to your hands. Electric steering, leave you feeling disconnected - everything's too smooth, too insulated. Exactly the same as Impact vs a drill. And the only reason why it's not obvious to everyone is because drills have torque control and impacts don't have them. The key difference lies in the torque control: drills come with this feature, allowing you to set a torque threshold and avoid overdoing it. But here's the catch - materials like wood aren't consistent, making it nearly impossible to find a 'one-torque-fits-all' setting. Impacts, with their raw, unforgiving power, demand a more seasoned hand. A slight excess pressure on the trigger, and you've overdriven a screw or split the wood. Beginners often lean towards drills, seeking to avoid these mishaps, and over time, they develop a comfort and proficiency with them. But this comfort can become a barrier to mastering the impact driver, which, in skilled hands, can outperform a drill. The longer this goes on - the harder to switch. But this whole debate goes down to this. I worked with someone who was about as experienced as I am and about as fast as I am. He was way faster than couple of other guys. Still, I was faster than him with my old impact. I didn't mess up a single screw and I finished identical piece before him. And I think if he mastered the impact it would be reversed - he would be faster than me."

Even when doing decking or installing a bunch of hangers with screws i still prefer impact of screw gun. The only reason i would buy a screw gun is if i did sheetrock for a living cause they wont over sink them. Other than that drill and impact is the way to go for everything else. Drill for holes impact for fasteners. I have a set of drill bits with the 1/4 hex/quick change, i still use them in my drill instead of in the impact. Something about impacting on a drill bit doesnt sit well with me. Except for hammer drill with concrete of course

One thing he didnt mention as a benefit for impacts apposed to drills and a drill can bind and twist your wrist, an impact wont it will just keep hammering. I thought for sure he was going to mention that but didn't

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I like DeWalt. They might not be the best tool in every test, but they're usually in the top three every time and seem to last really well. And if you're buying into a battery ecosystem for cordless tools, it's a pretty good option.

I came to see if anyone had said anything. These are indeed great. There are competing products, but it's one of the nicer ones.

If they're that big I get out the battery hammer drill, set to drive and boom, big screws fly in.

Festool is nice but we have found them lacking in the field simply due to ergonomics, if you are going to spend that kind of money go Hilti all day every day.

One day I went down a rabbit hole of the history of Robertson screws. If I recall correctly, Robertson still has a patent on a particular geometry (I think it's the taper angle) and they claim that you should only use Robertson brand bits with Robertson brand screws. Any deviation is considered sacrilege to them 🤷‍♂️

At my house it’s better to ask forgiveness than to ask permission. I just do what I want. Then it’s already done.

But outside North America, I think hardly anyone has heard of them, so its more informative to describe them. In Europe far more folk now use Torx, which I think is the best, and also the screws sit obediently on the end of the driver bit while you get into position, very handy if you're using stainless steel screws. Posidriv or Phillips, yuk...

Agreed. Hydraulic impacts are a different animal altogether.

I use my 12v milwaukee driver for most less than construction grade work. It’s light, small and fairly strong, excels at finer tasks, but for a 2.5-3” screw it’s not practical. Impacts are kind of noisy, you don’t get a good feel of how much torque is being applied to a screw, but it’s still the right tool for the bigger stuff.

Same. First tools i ever spent actual money on. Though i got them for fixs around my rv and car.

just ordered it if I don't like it, I'm coming to find you 😁

@@waynebrown7065 Not essential, but it helps to give a bit more space, making things a little easier. Cheap kits from a local hardware store will most likely come with a simple adapter like seen in the video.

sure you never heard ...probably you never been in a garage or remove a car wheel...its stupid to say that.. you never heard the noise of an air impact gun at the mechanic shop?

Thanks for watching Sam! I'm definitely not giving up my impact drivers, they're too handy!

@@ScottWalshWoodworking Absolutely not mate, I do not blame you!

Really dewalt for a better router? I was always under the impression the bosch router you can use fixed or plunge base was the best

I just got thw dewalt installation driver. Its great to have the offset and 90° right angle. The one thing im disappointed about is it doesnt impact. I thought there'd be a setting or using the 1/4 hex head would make it impact since i prefer impact for installing and removing screws/fasteners

@@jacksmith2315 the Milwaukee and Festool don't impact either.