Why Your Press Gets Stuck First with Nick Delgadillo

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5 жыл бұрын

Starting Strength Coach Nick Delgadillo talks about the progression of the basic barbell lifts during the programming lecture at a Starting Strength Seminar.
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@ioncasu9825
@ioncasu9825 3 жыл бұрын
Nick Delgadillo looks like he just finished his novice linear progession.
@leninfernandez9279
@leninfernandez9279 3 жыл бұрын
did you know that Delgadillo could be translated from spanish to something like: skinny?
@overlord165
@overlord165 3 жыл бұрын
You may not like it, but this is what peak performance look like. This what an average male should look like according to Rip. This is achievable with SS + GOMAD
@ioncasu9825
@ioncasu9825 3 жыл бұрын
@@overlord165 I was like that 2 months ago, and I felt awful for many reasons. Thanks god I had the courage to go against SS philosophy and started cutting down that fat. I feel better with every centimeter gone from my waist.
@dieselviper7811
@dieselviper7811 3 жыл бұрын
@@overlord165 none of their male coaches seem to look like they even workout besides chase
@jd0879
@jd0879 2 жыл бұрын
@@dieselviper7811 Ya I always found that strange too
@albienb6533
@albienb6533 2 жыл бұрын
He REALLY pulled those numbers out of his ass.
@michelef406
@michelef406 Жыл бұрын
YANKED.
@eclipsez0r
@eclipsez0r 5 жыл бұрын
Bout to go miss press reps today
@paulglaprade9915
@paulglaprade9915 5 жыл бұрын
eclipseNF same here brother. good luck
@snorlaxcom
@snorlaxcom 5 жыл бұрын
sounds like a bitch
@brandonschnurr3778
@brandonschnurr3778 3 жыл бұрын
Everytime
@BM-ru7ef
@BM-ru7ef 5 жыл бұрын
I'm just getting back into weightlifting after fifteen years of being out of it. I lifted all through high school and experienced this kind of progression, although we didn't do overhead presses or deadlifts; we focused on bench, incline, squats and power cleans (football). At 5'10 and 175 lbs my bench peaked at 225 while my squat was in the 400s. Six weeks ago I joined the gym in my new town with the goal of getting at least as strong as I was back then. There are so many programs out there. I've been doing a five day upper/lower split each week, focusing on barbell lifts. I work six days a week and so as the weights have rapidly increased, I'm finding myself kinda fatigued throughout the workday, even though I'm sleeping ~8 hours a night. Thankfully I bought and read Starting Strength, because it's given me a more focused approach that will allow me to get stronger over time without burning out. It's gonna be hard to go to a three day a week routine, but I'm trusting in the book because it reminds me a lot of the program we used in football conditioning and intuitively makes sense.
@baronmeduse
@baronmeduse 8 ай бұрын
The video title states: 'why your press gets stuck..' This video only stated THAT the press progresses at a generally slower rate. The 'why' question still needs an answer.
@baronmeduse
@baronmeduse 2 ай бұрын
​@@CharlieBravo887 Standing press uses a lot of muscles. In any case it is not squat or deadlift, anything regarding its performance relates to issues with standing press, not two other lifts.
@eagleeggs3862
@eagleeggs3862 2 жыл бұрын
forever bulking
@AllTheCoolNamesAreTaken84
@AllTheCoolNamesAreTaken84 2 жыл бұрын
For the next video, I’d like to see him teach how to increase to a 10k a day calorie goal faster 😂
@Lotus-cu6hp
@Lotus-cu6hp 3 жыл бұрын
do they have trainers there that don't look diabetic?
@beesmongeese2978
@beesmongeese2978 2 жыл бұрын
Anyone try to tell me he's healthy with a straight face.
@alexsmart2612
@alexsmart2612 2 жыл бұрын
Comments from the haters
@AcceleratingUniverse
@AcceleratingUniverse 2 жыл бұрын
grant broggi, paul horn, ray gillenwater, etc..
@christrejbal3787
@christrejbal3787 2 жыл бұрын
Gut is muscle- Rip
@Urugururuu
@Urugururuu Жыл бұрын
Do your FAHVEESSSSS. DRINK MILKKKKK
@tyleraustin33
@tyleraustin33 5 жыл бұрын
Hey look! The back of my head! :)
@cherylcleekers1258
@cherylcleekers1258 3 жыл бұрын
Nick, I have watched this through twice and also watched your programming series on starting strength network. I am currently adopting your suggestion of having the press and bench press only on a Texas method, with both volume and intensity press and bench press each week. Can I ask you to clarify something? You said that if I can’t achieve 5 sets of 3 in press, I should achieve 15 reps in any way possible. Do I then increase the volume weight the following week, regardless, or should I repeat the same weight and aim to achieve the 15 reps in less sets and increase once I have achieved 5 sets of 3? Your advice is much appreciated.
@startingstrength
@startingstrength 3 жыл бұрын
Go ahead and add weight. And when you end up doing just a bunch of singles, add a second press day where you do sets of 5s or triples.
@cherylcleekers1258
@cherylcleekers1258 3 жыл бұрын
@@startingstrength thank you. I have already added a second press day where I do 3 singles and find it has been helping.
@PearsAreOkay
@PearsAreOkay 4 жыл бұрын
I was hoping for something more about the press itself. This was more of an average/ expected level of progression through the 3 basic lifts, as drawn on a Cartesian graph. Yep, it's an asymptote; cool. But, what about the OHP?
@Mukation
@Mukation 2 жыл бұрын
Cause the power goes through the entire body, wiht all of the joints, the knees, the hips, shoulders and finally the elbows, with the shoulders muscles doing the majority of the work (a relativly small muscle, compared to your leg muscles for instance) When bench pressing, you only use two joints, shoulders and elbows, when squating, only the legs and hip and while deadlifting you also only use legs and hips, but a shorter range of motion (usually, unless you have a very unusuall bone structure). Sure, you also hold the bar in your arms, but they're extended, they don't move and then the shoulders only move along with gravity. And legs is a much larger muscles group then the shoulders aswell. So in short, that is actually why the press is the weakest of all of them. Because it involves smaller muscle groups and more joints, then for instance squats.
@InvisibleHotdog
@InvisibleHotdog 5 жыл бұрын
Tell me more about this pretty crazy press shit
@72Dexter72Manley72
@72Dexter72Manley72 5 жыл бұрын
The Press is very humbling. So I just do the weight I can and try to increase the reps each workout. I try to press 2-3 times a week. The weight I use might go up 2.5lbs a week or every other week.
@MSchmitz77
@MSchmitz77 3 жыл бұрын
I've had a lot of success with adding sets each workout, I press 2x per week and then once a week I do dips. Works pretty well.
@jasonpletscher1744
@jasonpletscher1744 3 жыл бұрын
How do you get around injuries on LP. Keep getting stuck around the same Wieght and then injuries. I'm no longer with a SS coach. any advice.
@dieselviper7811
@dieselviper7811 3 жыл бұрын
Rips answers are always eat and sleep more
@sevoc3970
@sevoc3970 3 жыл бұрын
barbell medicine, go to their website and read their stuff, their youtube also has really good info
@09thespecialone
@09thespecialone 4 жыл бұрын
As i always taught. A one plate Press is the equivalent of at least 200 lb - 2 plates bench ( if you still bench regularly at least twice a week). I weight 183 lb and i strict press one plate for 3 reps. My 1MR on the press is 145 lb. And my 1MR on the bench is 185 lb without training it at all...(The Press is my main lift. I press 5 times a week) The conclusion is that the Press is the superior upper body lift. Not the bench.
@09thespecialone
@09thespecialone 3 жыл бұрын
@Joe Smith Because the carry over is from the Press to the bench press (not the other way around).
@nathannewman6555
@nathannewman6555 3 жыл бұрын
@@09thespecialone The press is a more technical lift, because a slight deviation on the bar path in the press is more punishing. You have more stability in the bench, because you are laying down. That's why the carry over from bench to press isn't as good as from press to bench. The bench is better for targeting your chest. If you want to be well rounded, it probably best to train both to some degree.
@09thespecialone
@09thespecialone 3 жыл бұрын
@@nathannewman6555 Indeed. And I train both (bench just as an assistance lift once a week, of course).
@thomasgrabowski2202
@thomasgrabowski2202 3 жыл бұрын
I'm scared of doing overead press heavy because of a shoulder injury. 😬 Bench. I am pretty comfortable going heavy it's just ohp that scares me shitless. lol.
@thomasgrabowski2202
@thomasgrabowski2202 3 жыл бұрын
I can bench 185 plbs pretty easily 205 for sure, Over head press. 95 plbs MAYBE 105 plbs LOL! So bad x'D !!!!!
@CamiloMorfa16
@CamiloMorfa16 5 жыл бұрын
I thought bench didn't go up more bc the lack of bench in the LP.
@KriegWaters
@KriegWaters 5 жыл бұрын
That's one element, but it still typically outlives the press and would fail sooner than the squat, deadlift, and maybe power clean even if it were 3x/wk.
@KICKDACLUTCH
@KICKDACLUTCH 5 жыл бұрын
RTS is right on this one
@calebmelton5989
@calebmelton5989 4 жыл бұрын
what lack of bench? you dense boy?
@jd0879
@jd0879 2 жыл бұрын
I did bench 3x at the beginning and it still stalled before the squat and deadlift. It’s just a harder movement to progress on
@albupavel
@albupavel 5 жыл бұрын
if i just started the novice program and i will be away for a week, do i have to start with the weights i used last time when i come back, or can i just add 5 lbs and hope that i can do all the reps? if that week i will do something that burns a lot of calories like swimming or hiking and i consume enough food that i don't lose body weight, will it have an detrimental effect on my training?
@artemthetrain14
@artemthetrain14 5 жыл бұрын
My advice, and take it for what's it worth: don't worry too much about the extra exercise if it's not all the time. Just make sure you eat and get some good sleep and have fun! Also if you just started the program, adding five pounds probably won't be too difficult anyway.
@SzymonZat
@SzymonZat 5 жыл бұрын
If you are away for only one week than you could go with next weight. In fact, it is very good to take one week off (or 50% deload) every now and than. Every 3-5 weeks is good in my opinion. If you take your week off and do some other activities and after that, the day before training you feel tired than do some light day (3x5 at 80% weight of last workout).
@artemthetrain14
@artemthetrain14 5 жыл бұрын
@Zarazel 741 ya. Agreed. As a noobie even if you did canoe every week or whatever you'd still make gains. there's a psychological component, too. If you love to do something and can't anymore because of your strength training... You might stop your strength training
@CamiloMorfa16
@CamiloMorfa16 5 жыл бұрын
That's in the blue book for sure. I can't recall it from the top of my head though
@swoleboy9640
@swoleboy9640 5 жыл бұрын
Any tips on how to program the press once the weekly increase on wheigth Is no longer posible
@SixHybrid
@SixHybrid 5 жыл бұрын
I modified LP and switched over to 5 sets of 3 reps for the press/bench recently and now I can easily do 5 reps with the weight I was previously stuck on at 3 sets of 5 reps. Google search "Minimum Effective Dose for Maximum Strength, Part 2"
@swoleboy9640
@swoleboy9640 5 жыл бұрын
@@SixHybrid thanks brother!!
@cherry_it_is
@cherry_it_is 5 жыл бұрын
startingstrength.com/article/intermediate-programming-for-the-upper-body-lifts see this
@Ondrej.U
@Ondrej.U 5 жыл бұрын
startingstrength.com/article/intermediate-programming-for-the-upper-body-lifts ^^ this works perfectly, doing 4 workouts per week, 2x upper, 2x lower. Pressing twice a week, 5x5 on Tuesday, 7-10 singles on Friday, consistently going up, 1kg per week. Upper body workouts feel lighter than LP (5 sets of 3 reps - 1.5x per week).
@calebmelton5989
@calebmelton5989 4 жыл бұрын
Andy baker programming or BBM
@adraticofficial
@adraticofficial 3 жыл бұрын
I love ohp Just hit 120 for 5 reps
@LetsPlaywithDDae
@LetsPlaywithDDae 2 жыл бұрын
Not including the bar?
@adraticofficial
@adraticofficial 2 жыл бұрын
@@LetsPlaywithDDae that is including the bar I just hit 127.5 for 3 sets of 5 this morning Will do 130 on Friday and I will upload that video clip!!
@problematic7993
@problematic7993 2 жыл бұрын
he looks like he took GOMAD too far
@tmackn6592
@tmackn6592 Жыл бұрын
GOMAD wasn't 'strong' enough for him, so he skipped it and went straight to GOCAD, i.e. Gallon Of Cream A Day!
@kqh123
@kqh123 6 ай бұрын
​@@tmackn6592Gallon of Cola a Day
@xyzct
@xyzct 5 ай бұрын
Respectfully, this seems to be a _non sequitur._ Yes, the press has a lower load throughout the curve, but it does not logically follow that this means the press curve reaches proportional diminishing returns faster. What if you get to 210#, but you are only increasing load a 1/4# per week. For all we know, it could take _longer_ to plateau than the squat or deadlift.
@lucianoosinaga2980
@lucianoosinaga2980 3 жыл бұрын
This guy's name is delgadillo lmao. he's no delgadillo dude
@mrickeuh5612
@mrickeuh5612 2 ай бұрын
lol im stuck at 43kg for month at the press.... im so bad lol
@djslakor
@djslakor 3 жыл бұрын
Jesus Christ get this man a bigger shirt. This is just mean.
@teodormrdenovic1981
@teodormrdenovic1981 3 жыл бұрын
It’s important to mention that this doesn’t apply to Chase Lindley apparently, who just pressed 184kg
@jd0879
@jd0879 3 жыл бұрын
Who also deadlifts 700 and squats 640 so it’s still relative
@theswoletariat3479
@theswoletariat3479 5 жыл бұрын
so what the fuck do we do about this fact?
@johnnysquiretube
@johnnysquiretube 2 жыл бұрын
Does it really help to say it's because of the amount of muscle mass? The math is clearer - there are less increments between start and asymptote for press at 5 and 2.5lbs. If you want to progress along the same trajectory over time, the increments for press and bench should just be smaller all along.
@Dani-zi8hs
@Dani-zi8hs 2 жыл бұрын
I can't understand why you guys think its good for your image to tell about fitness and health aka. being strong and at the same time look the opposite..?!
@thomasgrabowski2202
@thomasgrabowski2202 3 жыл бұрын
That's probably why my ohp was shit was because I had poor stability in my upper body. I'm going to try ohp again in the future. For now sticking with squats as a foundation and doing some bodywegiht movements (just my own unique blend of exercises I enjoy doing and I think are most beneficial for me - long term.) Would love to add ohp into the routine though for sure. I think its such a good exercise and my shoulders love it :P ! Just gotta be fucking careful and be steady s a rock when presssing that shit up lol.
@farhanhussain_
@farhanhussain_ 3 жыл бұрын
He has not said anything new
@aguuug5139
@aguuug5139 11 ай бұрын
This is the guy who says that lifting weights makes you more conditioned
@wesoblander3648
@wesoblander3648 Ай бұрын
Always ask that person if he or she can walk across the room without calling 9-1-1.
@tjcogger1974
@tjcogger1974 2 жыл бұрын
Lol thanks captain obvious. This easily could have been a 60 second video.
@jd0879
@jd0879 2 жыл бұрын
Lol I agree. People need to be concise
@chrisrice3551
@chrisrice3551 2 жыл бұрын
Just saying it didn't make any sense just state a plan and a plan of action nextime..start small and go larger weekly and monthly if possible..simple.
@grimslater
@grimslater 2 жыл бұрын
The guy is gasping for breath, and we're supposed to take his fitness advice? He can barely get enough oxygen into his overweight body!
@AllTheCoolNamesAreTaken84
@AllTheCoolNamesAreTaken84 2 жыл бұрын
Comments…..from……the haters 😂
@tmackn6592
@tmackn6592 Жыл бұрын
Strength has little correlation to health fitness. I'm strongest when I'm blind drunk on bourbon whisky, but am I healthy and fit at this time? No, not really
@wesoblander3648
@wesoblander3648 Ай бұрын
@@AllTheCoolNamesAreTaken84 , no it is that A does not equal B in his case.
@killerrush77
@killerrush77 5 жыл бұрын
whats the number here for squat.... 500. -ummm WTF?! not for me. whats the number here for bench..... 225 - again WTF not for me, more like 225 for the squat, and 190 for the bench. (i must just be a pussy, this sucks)
@dishtailor2182
@dishtailor2182 3 жыл бұрын
Keep at it. Those numbers will come. Likely you're not eating or sleeping enough and your confidence under the bar needs to improve
@killerrush77
@killerrush77 3 жыл бұрын
@@dishtailor2182 got to 280 squat and 215 bench, then blew my neck out.
@thomasgrabowski2202
@thomasgrabowski2202 3 жыл бұрын
Keep it up. You will progress jsut keep going and sleep well and EAT! You gotta eat a lot of food but make sure it's relatively healthy (you don't want to look and or feel liek shit either. )
@ArtyCraftZ
@ArtyCraftZ 5 жыл бұрын
Actually, my deadlift got stuck first. My back can easily support the weight I'm trying to lift, but my Trump-like hands can't grip the bar tightly enough.
@codytibbitts657
@codytibbitts657 5 жыл бұрын
Macedonicus straps???
@dimpsbiliou5478
@dimpsbiliou5478 5 жыл бұрын
What to do about it?
@CamiloMorfa16
@CamiloMorfa16 5 жыл бұрын
Straps, alternate grip, chalk. Try things my friend
@ArtyCraftZ
@ArtyCraftZ 5 жыл бұрын
@@codytibbitts657 I'm worried about worsening my already not-so-stellar grip strength
@codytibbitts657
@codytibbitts657 5 жыл бұрын
Macedonicus go as high as you can with your grip then use straps when your grip gives. Do hanging leg raises after and also train your grip with dead hangs and farmers carries too. It’ll catch up !!
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