Will Newt Give Up His Magic? | Harry Potter Theory

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Today Ben dives into the Wizarding World of Harry Potter to try and determine if Newt Scamander will give up his magical powers in order to save Credence by the end of the Fantastic Beasts movies!
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The hot dog is to remind everyone that they’re in America
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Lol!
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@terraynahallen 2 жыл бұрын
I found that hotdog a bit stereotypical of JK to include. But maybe that’s just me. 😂
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@canaan5337 2 жыл бұрын
Do they not have hot dogs in the UK? Seems like they would, we have fish and chips in America and tacos and sushi and curry and Chinese food and all sorts of other stuff from all over the world.
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@katemyers6210
@katemyers6210 2 жыл бұрын
Have you ever heard Sanderson's explanation of main character, protagonist, and pov character? The person the story is about, the one who changes, and the one who the story is told through. I think we assume because Newt is the POV the story is about him when he is actually more akin to the setting and sphere. He's the one we care about. He will be critical, but the MC is Dumbledore (one the story is about) and the protagonist is Credence (one who changes) We know Newt gets a happy ending - a life, family, his beasts. Everyone else's story is going to end tragically.
@ecocentriclife
@ecocentriclife 2 жыл бұрын
Hmm. Can you give an example Sanderson story with this structure? I've read all of them, but the ones coming to mind right now all seem to have a combo character who fits all these categories (Vin, Kaladin, Dalinar, et. al) I guess maybe Warbreaker? Like Lightsong and Vasher as POV characters, the God King a main character, and the sisters as protagonists? Or some other configuration... it's hard because nearly all of Sanderson's characters change just due to how he writes 🤷‍♀️
@august1837
@august1837 2 жыл бұрын
I feel that maybe in the final empire, and it’s hard to see this in the rest of the trilogy, both vin and kelsior are POV characters, but vin is the protagonist and kelsior is the main character. Not sure this is the only book of his I was able to apply this to
@Ranger1812
@Ranger1812 Жыл бұрын
Newt is the main character just as Harry was. Newt is just less of a focus in Fantastic Beasts than Harry was in Harry Potter.
@NerdWithLaptop
@NerdWithLaptop 2 жыл бұрын
I like the fact that every time you say Nagini is Voldemort's right-hand snake, you use the clip where she slithers past Voldemort's left hand
@Christopher0601
@Christopher0601 2 жыл бұрын
Thats because it's more Sinister Badum tss
@thatrandomnerd6996
@thatrandomnerd6996 2 жыл бұрын
@@Christopher0601 I get it!
@amandawolfe4994
@amandawolfe4994 2 жыл бұрын
That's a good point!
@Drecon84
@Drecon84 2 жыл бұрын
"Don't take sides" is actually a very classic characteristic for a main character. The 'reluctant hero' is a very often used archetype.
@Laura-pk2fd
@Laura-pk2fd 2 жыл бұрын
Being a reluctant hero doesn't often mean not taking sides. It's more about not wanting to be the leader/carry the burden
@Drecon84
@Drecon84 2 жыл бұрын
@@Laura-pk2fd I think that from a narrative perspective the important part of the reluctant hero trope is that it's someone who says he's not going to get involved and through personal stakes keeps on getting dragged in. I don't think limiting it to specifically someone who doens't want to be a leader or something similar helps in any way.
@lukaseldenrust2637
@lukaseldenrust2637 2 жыл бұрын
@@Drecon84 a pretty big example of that trope is Percy Jackson, we literally start the book with him saying he doesn’t want to be a halfblood and that he’ll probably die a painful nasty death because of it and yet he doesn’t want any other kid to go through what he had/has to go through. We see this echoed through all of the books with Percy, if he can even make the smallest of difference in saving a life he does it at 0 regard for his own (especially in Last Olympian, if you know what I’m talking about. Also in Titans curse, those are the two at the top of my head right now)
@cliffritch7304
@cliffritch7304 2 жыл бұрын
Another technical possibility: You mentioned that they had a weird quirk for Newt: "I don't do sides" Maybe that is done so that there is a reason he stayed out of the Voldemort fight - he just took care of the creatures, and didn't focus on the actual wizard fights going on around him. Also, he would be in his mid to late 90s during the Harry Potter books, so I could see him just not wanting to join in the fight even if he were around
@Ranger1812
@Ranger1812 Жыл бұрын
That isn't a "weird quirk", that's a symptom of his caring only about doing what is right rather than going along with others because they share some views. Also, Crimes of Grindelwald has an arc regarding this, with his saying "I don't do sides" at the beginning and "I've chosen my side" at the end.
@BlueCanary7
@BlueCanary7 2 жыл бұрын
My theory: Newt actually IS around in the books. We're don't hear about it because Harry never properly studied for care of magical creatures, and didn't realize that old Hufflepuff guy he kept seeing was someone pretty important! 😸
@thorzyan
@thorzyan 2 жыл бұрын
Naw, newt lives in America with his wife y'all .
@hatorade1031
@hatorade1031 2 жыл бұрын
@@thorzyan but he doesn’t. Like canonically he lives in Dorset with his wife
@dolphinman9253
@dolphinman9253 2 жыл бұрын
@@thorzyan bb-but i met him in universal studios. are you saying he was lying?
@pedro55845
@pedro55845 2 жыл бұрын
@@dolphinman9253 I met his wife
@birdiec
@birdiec 2 жыл бұрын
@@pedro55845 so did i 😉
@robertangus616
@robertangus616 2 жыл бұрын
I like Newt Scamander a lot but let's be real he is even more of an errand boy for Dumbledore than Harry Potter was
@abishaipaul2298
@abishaipaul2298 2 жыл бұрын
But for real every character is Dumbledore's errand boy
@anvime739
@anvime739 2 жыл бұрын
I have the feeling that Newt will help Dumbledore get along with Fawkes (which is imo the phoenix we see in FB2) and that Fawkes will me important to either break the blood pact or defeat Grind in a different way. It would fit well since Fawkes is a fantastic beast and thats the supposed theme of the saga
@rxchxl9493
@rxchxl9493 2 жыл бұрын
I dunno, I think Newt will realise that Dumbledore isn’t exactly God, but they’re friends, I guess, so he’ll just do what dumbledore says. I also feel like newt has the capacity to say no, as he’s older and wiser than Harry
@okbomber151
@okbomber151 2 жыл бұрын
will be*
@iimax_9135
@iimax_9135 2 жыл бұрын
He's doing what's right. He's not an 'errand boy'.
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@kohganightbane9430
@kohganightbane9430 2 жыл бұрын
Honestly, i think you're forgetting how nothing Rita writes can be taken at face value. She likes to stretch the truth for the sake of making a juicy story. I think Newt will be the one to figure out how to break the blood vow thing.
@baystated
@baystated 2 жыл бұрын
I love how this shows us how you came up with Dumbledore’ Plan. Realizations lead to new questions that cause more digging that lead to bigger revelations. I almost want more Beasts films just so you can develop your Dumbledore’s Previous Plan ideas further.
@TheGloriousOrc
@TheGloriousOrc 2 жыл бұрын
They're going to Brazil.
@haileym5912
@haileym5912 2 жыл бұрын
Honestly...I think the reason Newt isn't there in the Battle of Hogwarts or anything is that he's legit like 100 years old...
@villekuronen6242
@villekuronen6242 2 жыл бұрын
that doesnt explain why he isnt part of order of phoenix during voldemorts first reign of terror
@haileym5912
@haileym5912 2 жыл бұрын
@@villekuronen6242 yeah it only explains why in the 2nd war
@divyanshbarve4698
@divyanshbarve4698 2 жыл бұрын
100 is not crazy old for a wizard
@divyanshbarve4698
@divyanshbarve4698 2 жыл бұрын
Dunbledore is 115
@haileym5912
@haileym5912 2 жыл бұрын
@@divyanshbarve4698 maybe im wrong but i didnt think all wizards had that long lifespan. Maybe they do but even still Newt at 100 might not be able to fight that well. He doesnt seen to be the greatest at fighting to begin with.
@MrWiz1969
@MrWiz1969 2 жыл бұрын
Albus Dumbledore is accustomed to manipulating other people and Newt knows that. He probably just doesn’t want any part of Albus by the time Voldemort starts coming to power.
@dallasrover5515
@dallasrover5515 2 жыл бұрын
The thunderbird going to Arizona wasn't just a Phoenix reference. The thunderbird is a mythological creature supposed to come from that region and nest in canyons. I can remember what specific nations that one is from, but I remember reading about them long before these movies ever came out.
@SakiBlablabla
@SakiBlablabla 2 жыл бұрын
I think it originates form the Sioux people , if I remember correctly but I am not sure ! Edit : Nevermind , the Thunderbird does appear in Sioux Mythology as well as many other North-American Nations’ Mythologies but we don’t actually know the origin of the Thunderbird Myth for sure !
@86upsmaya
@86upsmaya 2 жыл бұрын
I kinda wish they kept Newt as the protagonist, him going into different continents, fighting animal poachers, saving them from harm etc, with a faint mention of this big war in the background
@stecky87
@stecky87 2 жыл бұрын
Me, too - ti would've made more sense . . .
@keru6925
@keru6925 Жыл бұрын
Man, I wish it was like this
@chrishall5570
@chrishall5570 2 жыл бұрын
You guys have a very different interpretation of how this series is going to end then I do. I assume Newt isn't involved with anything to do with Voldemort is because he just really doesn't want to be. Newt already doesn't want to be involved with Grindlewald and Dumbledore now when he's young and in his prime so I doubt he'll want to do it again when he's older and has more to lose. Also I really don't see Credence surviving the to the end of Fantastic beast series. His entire character just screams tragedy to me in a way that gives me very little confidence in his surivival.
@LadyKaira
@LadyKaira 2 жыл бұрын
Now I usually don’t like to be this negative when it comes to fandom stuff. But timelines and characters appearing in them correctly aren’t exactly HP’s strong suit. So I... don’t think Newt and Credence are absent in the main Harry Potter times for any reason other than just not being thought about at the time
@Crafyeet
@Crafyeet 2 жыл бұрын
And now that Jo's thought about it, this might be the case. Edit: Not everything has to be established since the very beginning. Jo might not have these ideas early into writing HP, but when she added more things, she also filled in holes and fit stuff into the world.
@Inkyminkyzizwoz
@Inkyminkyzizwoz 2 жыл бұрын
@@Crafyeet That was why the Goblet of Fire was so much longer than the previous books. She got halfway* through writing it before realising that there was a big plot hole, so she had to go back and fix it. *Halfway according to the originally planned length, but after adding in what she needed to fix the plot hole it turned out that what she'd already written before then was more like a third of the total book
@s6r231
@s6r231 2 жыл бұрын
I think that it'll turn out that Newt was helping Dumbledore but wasn't a part of the order. Like Molly and Arthur in the first wizarding war. They only joined the order the second time due to their son's relationship with Harry. I'd say Newt and Tina are helping in other ways. It's not like they hadn't been thought of, Newt was mentioned in the books as the author of the book. I don't think credence will survive the fantastic beasts series.
@hellchaos9991
@hellchaos9991 2 жыл бұрын
@@s6r231 Newt's name is also on the marauders map in PoA movie
@ninclow5421
@ninclow5421 2 жыл бұрын
I am reminded of a quote from Toph Beifong in season 3 of _Avatar: Legend of Korra_ , when they're talking about taking down the season's antagonist. *Opal:* Aren't you coming back to Republic City with us, Grandma? *Toph:* No, my fighting days are over. Don't tell Korra, but my back is killing me now. This is why you didn't see Katara messing with that civil war nonsense. At some point, you gotta leave it to the kids. [Walks off.]
@TheRibottoStudios
@TheRibottoStudios 2 жыл бұрын
Oh well just RIP MY HEART OUT AND PUT IT IN A GLASS CASE OF EMOTIONS why don't you. Also I find it VERY ironic that the THUNDERBIRD'S home is in ARIZONA and it can conjure thunderstorms when like.....Have y'all seen Southern Arizona? Outside of monsoon season she don't get much rain lol. So his home would have to be in the northern half of the state. It just makes sense.
@colonagray2454
@colonagray2454 2 жыл бұрын
Or maybe they breed during monsoons or something like that.
@TheRibottoStudios
@TheRibottoStudios 2 жыл бұрын
@@colonagray2454 ohhhhhhhhhhh that would be a cool idea like their mating thing is making the most impressive thunderstorm which would thus explain why in SoArizona you only see those HARDCORE rains once a year.
@khadijasenghor286
@khadijasenghor286 2 жыл бұрын
Everyone else: Sitting here suggesting other theories that link to the vid. Me: Newt is the superior character in all of this franchise, in this essay I will-
@Swirl_of_StarFire
@Swirl_of_StarFire 2 жыл бұрын
What's the timeline for Fantastic Beasts? Wasn't there some sort of uproar that they retconned McGonagall's age so she could appear in the second movie, even though she wasn't supposed to be born yet at the time? I was under the impression that there's a huge time gap between FB and HP, and most of the characters are absent from HP because they are dead from old age, and the ones who do appear, ie. Dumbledore and Grindelwald, are just living extremely long lives thanks to their stronger-than-average magic
@Georgiana216
@Georgiana216 2 жыл бұрын
Actually, wizards in general live long lives, but because of the times with Voldemort in power, a lot of wizard families and seasoned wizards died fighting/ killed
@pedromagalhaes8911
@pedromagalhaes8911 2 жыл бұрын
In fact, most wizards live very long lives. Remember, Dumbledore was like 115 y o in HP so Newt and company are like 90-ish, which is old, but no that old for a wizzard
@chrishall5570
@chrishall5570 2 жыл бұрын
Yes but I think it was already confirmed that Newt is alive by the end of the battle of hogwarts. Wizards are long living but Dumbledore and Grindelwald are especially long lived
@Georgiana216
@Georgiana216 2 жыл бұрын
@@chrishall5570 Tbh, they aren't especially long lived. Iirc the headmaster Armando Dippet lived until his 350s
@danjones4432
@danjones4432 2 жыл бұрын
@@Georgiana216 source
@TnT_F0X
@TnT_F0X 2 жыл бұрын
For Newt becoming a Squib wouldn't be so bad. Squibs can see magic, use magical objects, live freely in the magical world... he could do his job with 95% efficiency not using magic.
@justyna9974
@justyna9974 2 жыл бұрын
All in all, it's a shame the films aren't about Newt for now on. We could get to know more of his stories, something more about his children and later Rolf and Rolf's twins, or about animals in general. But no, Dumbledore again because the money didn't match.
@NoFacetheVoid
@NoFacetheVoid 2 жыл бұрын
So, i could be completely wrong here, but just from the books, i always assumed Newt developed the wolfsbane potion Lupin takes in Prisoner. I'm sure there's some Pottermore article saying otherwise, but i never dived that deep.
@chrisleneil
@chrisleneil 2 жыл бұрын
It was developed by Damocles Belby, Marcus Belby’s uncle. Professor Slughorn invited Marcus to Slug Club functions, but was displeased when Marcus told him that his father didn’t really get on with his brother at all.
@niki75
@niki75 2 жыл бұрын
Perhaps Newt is simply too old by the Second Wizarding War? Certainly he'd be well over 100 years old. He may be a capable wizard but by no means is he on the same level than Dumbledore. Heck eben Slughorn in the Half Blood Prince is complaining about how he's getting old when Dumbledore and Harry go to recruit him back to Hogwarts
@Kuyama777
@Kuyama777 2 жыл бұрын
theory: Dumbledore and Grindelwald will duel on screen, Dumbledore wins, and then boom it was all a vision Grindelwald gets just before the fight because he is a seer. So he pretty much surrenders in that moment. So Rita Skeeter is tecnically right but we also get to see the duel
@nickynegron3515
@nickynegron3515 2 жыл бұрын
Newt isn't in the HP side of things because they reference his grandson very loosely. And also, Magical exhaustion is a thing, it's actually why Harry passes out at the end of I believe Sorcerer's Stone after defeating Voldy and then waking up in the Hospital Wing. It was also loosely hinted that the fudge and sweets Lupin gives them on the Express in PoA helps with the magical exhaustion brought on by the Dementor presence. Also, bigger spells have been known to show strain on the castor in the movies, therefore there has to be some form of magical drain on their magical core, so to speak.
@6666Imperator
@6666Imperator 2 жыл бұрын
really? I remember that chocolate thing more to be a "happy maker" than fighting exhaustion. And I am not sure if the mist-voldy attack really caused magical exhaustion or just physical pain etc. on the other hand you see for example Harry at a very young age and still relatively untrained fighting off several dementors several times in the book. You see Voldemort and Dumbledore fighting each other in a battle of quick casts of impressive magic without either of them breaking a sweat or even breathing a bit more heavily or anything. It doesn't seem to be a difference for the caster if they cast petrificus totalus or a or a fire storm in terms of exhaustion.
@nickynegron3515
@nickynegron3515 2 жыл бұрын
@@6666Imperator but remember it's sugar. What easier way on a train with a SWEETS cart to gain some emergency energy? You're right it was used as a mood lifter, but the fact remains that it was also emergency energy even if not for the magic itself. And Dumbledore and Voldemort are much more powerful in comparison to young Harry so their magical core or reserves would have grown. It has been said that accidental bouts of magic are due to both the emotions raging at the time and that acts like pressure to a Wizards magic, so if you get too angry, it's like popping the cork off a champagne bottle and the magic flows out uncontrollably
@anvime739
@anvime739 2 жыл бұрын
@@nickynegron3515 I think that it is more used as a mood lifter. Dementors are supposed to represent depression and chocolate is known to raise your serotonine levels, that help against depression.
@86upsmaya
@86upsmaya 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, Dumbledore got really weak after drinking that potion, the fact that he was able to get it together till the last moment is simply coz ge has a lot more magic than most of the wizards
@MordechaiHershoffyoutube
@MordechaiHershoffyoutube 2 жыл бұрын
@@86upsmaya It's not that he has more magic it's that he has more mental control and will, he was seeing his siblings getting tortured from the potion and then he saw Harry about to die so he took all of that and cast the spell to make the fire and try to help not see it anymore, magic at the end of the day will have more to do with your will and control then pure power
@s6r231
@s6r231 2 жыл бұрын
To answer this question you first have to realise that you can help in the wizarding war effort and also not be a member of the order. Take Molly and Arthur as an example. They were not in the order the first time around and they really only joined the second time because of their son's relationship with Harry. Dumbledore probably felt that Newt had already done him a great service during the Grindelwald era and left him to his retirement, probably calling on him for the odd favour.
@GiancarloAridio
@GiancarloAridio 2 жыл бұрын
Fair enough, though Molly may have had additional inspiration to join since her brothers Fabian and Gideon were killed during the First Wizarding War. They were members of the original order and I believe they were twins. They must have meant enough to her since she named her own teins (F)red and (G)eorge. I'm sure her motherly feelings for Harry played the largest part in her membership, but they certainly weren't the ONLY reason. Then of course, Ron was involved in protecting the stone from Voldy and Tom Riddles Diary targeted Ginny prior to them officially joining the order. They were closely involved in all the events leading up.
@GiancarloAridio
@GiancarloAridio 2 жыл бұрын
"..their son's relationship with Harry." Whoops, may have misread your original comment a bit...but still, I think it was much more than just that.
@zakx124
@zakx124 2 жыл бұрын
Honestly, she just probably never thought about it. She doesn't have the best track record so far with consistency
@coldermusic2729
@coldermusic2729 2 жыл бұрын
The fact that mcgonagall is in the film put me off SO MUCH 😂 I seriously can’t come up with any productions about the story. Who knows, maybe jk’s going to bring back Harry Potter who time traveled into the past to help Dumbledore or something. If she does this I wouldn’t even be surprised 😂
@FantasticBeasts2024
@FantasticBeasts2024 2 жыл бұрын
@@coldermusic2729 My guess is WB asked her to put McGonagall in there to get publicity and put her in trailers- solely as an easter egg for moviegoers.
@FantasticBeasts2024
@FantasticBeasts2024 2 жыл бұрын
@@coldermusic2729 As for the timeline issue - McGonagall was younger in the books, and older in the films. So they probably went by film canon. Since McGonagall was closer in age to Dumbledore in the films so in that logic, putting her around her 30’s while Dumbledore is in his 50’s I guess makes sense. They probably hoped nobody would notice. But people searched her original date of birth that JK Rowling gave her for the books.
@coldermusic2729
@coldermusic2729 2 жыл бұрын
@@FantasticBeasts2024 She probably forgot about the age herself 😂
@questionsxxquestionsxx776
@questionsxxquestionsxx776 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe grindelwald foresaw his capture. You know, with his seer abilities. And he knew they couldn't fight and wanted himself to not get hurt unnecessarily.
@jackwriter1908
@jackwriter1908 2 жыл бұрын
Oh, that iconic intro song. I can't live without it anymore.
@trentb28
@trentb28 2 жыл бұрын
Fantastic Beasts 5: The Philosopher's Stone But Jacob (or any American character) calls Flamel a Sorcerer at some point in the movie as a little nod.
@Goodbutevilgenius
@Goodbutevilgenius 2 жыл бұрын
Ew
@GiancarloAridio
@GiancarloAridio 2 жыл бұрын
Love this! Maybe not the title, but the idea is dope.
@primmoore6232
@primmoore6232 2 жыл бұрын
1:37 *YES!!* 👏 Each movie is less and less about the Fantastic Beast and who found them! I wanted to see Newt caring for his beloved creatures, not the Boring Backstory of Albus Dumbledore. 2:08 - good to see someone else noticed the shrinking title. Bad that it's happening.
@Cyberlucy
@Cyberlucy 2 жыл бұрын
Wow. Are you sure you watched any of these movies? Dumbledore gives his choice of Newt away at the beginning of Fantastic Beasts 2. "Do you know why I admire you Newt? More perhaps more than any man I know. You do not seek power...or popularity. You simply ask if a thing right in itself. If it is you do it no matter the cost." The last sentence says it all. Where was he during the Voldemort era? Probably consulting behind the scenes. As you know he was on the Marauder's Map the day that Harry was given it. Most likely he was visiting Dumbledore.
@EpicSB
@EpicSB 2 жыл бұрын
Let's be honest this would be good. But the reason these characters aren't involved later on in the series is because JK didn't think things through. But in all seriousness I think Credence is going to die that would probably push nagini to becoming less human as time goes on
@Joe___R
@Joe___R 2 жыл бұрын
I believe newt will end up removing the obscurious from credence which may end up killing him. The reason newt wasn't a part of the war against voldimort is because he doesn't like to fight unless he has to, just look how reluctant he was to fight against grinderwald. He only did so after being asked to help credence by dumbledore most likely since he is the only one who can possibly remove the obscurous.
@dustgreylynx
@dustgreylynx 2 жыл бұрын
The last time I checked Berlin was not in Brazil ... I am pretty much sure I live in Berlin but not in Brazil. Almost 98% sure
@Georgiana216
@Georgiana216 2 жыл бұрын
It will happen in both Brazil and Germany
@darthvader9665
@darthvader9665 2 жыл бұрын
You are in brazil
@theaspreysisters3587
@theaspreysisters3587 2 жыл бұрын
There was a mention of newt in book one! In Harry’s list of things for Hogwarts newt’s book! Fantastic beasts! Never talked about again but mentioned!
@cupidodgervod
@cupidodgervod 2 жыл бұрын
Newt answers the question on where he is during voldemorts reign himself "I don't take sides." He just doesn't care he would rather play with his pets while the world burns around him.. if Dumbledore asked however, he may have aided if he could... but he would not just jump into a war
@jubes6287
@jubes6287 2 жыл бұрын
A wizard can't lose their magic but you can't cast how much spells you want, Harry himself said that his dementor training was as exhausting if not more than his quidditch training there is a limit
@barbarabenoit3667
@barbarabenoit3667 2 жыл бұрын
Uff, that was tough stuff in the add for Better Help: "Be prepared for some glorious brain selfies, or as I call it: your personality - Or in my case it is like a brain desk. That just got papers all over it. Random trivia" - You say this in a video about Newt? The Hogwarts scene were we see whar the boggart turned into for Newt came to mind imidiatly. A desk with paper all over it - stands for a lot of fear. My heart went out to you, Ben.
@naomi_falk
@naomi_falk 2 жыл бұрын
Loving this string of Harry Potter theories
@chrisaronson2717
@chrisaronson2717 2 жыл бұрын
On the topic of newt being around during Harry Potters time. He is actually seen in hogwarts. When Harry is looking at the marauders map in the movie, you can clearly see a tag of newt scamander walking thru the hallways. Now it could be a ghost version of him if he died and decided to come back. But I think he is most certainly around as part of Dumbledore's entourage.
@JonBerry555
@JonBerry555 2 жыл бұрын
That was only in the film, not the books. He is mentioned as an author of a magical beats textbook in one of the books, buts that's it. Movie and Book canon are too different things (like Star Wars Legends and Star Wars Canon), but Fantastic Beasts is in both canons.
@MazochistaRozsas
@MazochistaRozsas 2 жыл бұрын
That was probably just an easter egg in the movie. It's not canon, it wasn't in the book, just the movie.
@chrisaronson2717
@chrisaronson2717 2 жыл бұрын
That argument really does not make sense. The movie and books are both canon. One visual and one written both following the same order of events but years of development apart. Just like fantastic beast it came before Harry Potter on the timeline. Yet the movies are being written and developed now. Why would the producers, director, jk, and the artist all miss it as an Easter egg placed by a single grunt and not use it as a purposely placed image for future events to be played out in an overlap movie or some future side story like an origin or mini series.
@MazochistaRozsas
@MazochistaRozsas 2 жыл бұрын
@@chrisaronson2717 The movies based on the original 7 books aren't canon. The Fantastic Beasts movies are, but we're not talking about those. The Harry Potter movies are based on canon, but they changed many things, therefore they're not canon. If you were asked "What did Harry do with the Elder Wand?", then "He broke it in half" (which is what happened in the movie) would be an incorrect answer. It's not canon.
@roisingaffney3090
@roisingaffney3090 2 жыл бұрын
Let’s goooo! Another amazing video! Keep it up lads ❤️
@SuperCarlinBrothers
@SuperCarlinBrothers 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@roisingaffney3090
@roisingaffney3090 2 жыл бұрын
Oh my goodness! Hello from Ireland 🇮🇪
@phillipgerecke4299
@phillipgerecke4299 2 жыл бұрын
Watching the salamander scene wearing my SCB "We finish each others salamanders" shirt :D who else got one?
@marijnaapjuh
@marijnaapjuh 2 жыл бұрын
SCB be like: If you take care of magical creatures you aren't allowed to/can't use magic. Me: cries in half-giant Hagrid tears.
@canaan5337
@canaan5337 2 жыл бұрын
I don't know how he could "loose" his magic. I suppose he could voluntarily just stop using Magic but that wouldn't be the same thing as being unable to use Magic.
@JJ-be7iv
@JJ-be7iv 2 жыл бұрын
All your theories are so good man, like I can see all of them happening
@acciomegapint2373
@acciomegapint2373 2 жыл бұрын
Honestly, I love the character Newt Scamander because he's extremely relatable to me WHICH MEANS: if he was real, we would not be able to have a conversation because both of us would just be starring at the ground. This is not the most positive comment ig.
@edopronk1303
@edopronk1303 2 жыл бұрын
Virtual hug
@isabelwonders8711
@isabelwonders8711 2 жыл бұрын
Same
@StarbitO
@StarbitO 2 жыл бұрын
i love newt because when i was 10 i had a crush on a completely different character who was also voiced by newts german dub voice actor
@fettmangaming7956
@fettmangaming7956 2 жыл бұрын
( 0:35 ) It`s in New York, of coarse there`s gonna be a hotdog in it XD
@Danielpeter2344
@Danielpeter2344 2 жыл бұрын
I'm calling it now, Nick and his shiny red rock won't come back in any major way throughout the rest of the series.
@katarinabrunk8698
@katarinabrunk8698 2 жыл бұрын
😂 Nick and his shiny red rock 😂😂
@sof1714
@sof1714 2 жыл бұрын
It's all good with Dumbledore and Grindy, but I need to see more of Newt, Tina and Jacob in SoD
@Vampiress01
@Vampiress01 2 жыл бұрын
My theory for Nagini: Dumbledore is going to ~let~ Credence die at some point. He might not directly cause it, but the connection will be strong enough for her to side with whomever is opposing Dumbledore. Thus her service to the second Dark Wizard, also one who can speak to her and know her story and maybe even connect with.
@765ZackAttack
@765ZackAttack 2 жыл бұрын
Hold up-if this ends up being right and Newt survives with Obscurous-Credence inside him because of the Philosopher’s stone…then…does that mean that when Flamel decided to let the stone be destroyed in Philosopher’s Stone, he was also signing off on Newt’s death warrant?
@JotoheKian
@JotoheKian 2 жыл бұрын
Great theory, as always. I've even watched 40+min commercial as my tiny 'thank you' for these quality videos. Keep up the good work!
@jorgecarbajal8076
@jorgecarbajal8076 2 жыл бұрын
Based on my research, Newt and Tina were retired during the Second Wizarding War. As for Credence, we’ll just have to see what becomes of him in the rest of the series.
@polosmilla8968
@polosmilla8968 2 жыл бұрын
Your videos have really helped me out of a hard time of my life and I want to thank you guys for that
@micheleminor1106
@micheleminor1106 2 жыл бұрын
Newt could still have been involved in the fight against Voldemort but wasn't mentioned in the Harry Potter books since he didn't have a relationship with Harry in the time period. Him and Tina could have been out of the country when the photograph was taken of the original Order of the Phoenix. Though Voldemort's activity was in Great Britain Dumbledore anyone to check in on his activity in other countries since there was none and Grindelwald's reign was further reaching in the wizarding world.
@TalonSky
@TalonSky 2 жыл бұрын
You guys are forgetting a key piece of info in the Dumbledore vs. Grindelwald conflict. Grindelwald isn't the master of the Elder Wand anymore, Newt/Tina is. They defeated and disarmed (respectively) Grindelwald in the first movie.
@weedragonauts4729
@weedragonauts4729 2 жыл бұрын
0:41 maybe she just got hungry and saw a guy with a hotdog cart? you're probably overthinking it.
@theaspreysisters3587
@theaspreysisters3587 2 жыл бұрын
Can I just say you too are amazing! You have given me a lot of fun for since I found your channel
@khaleesi8278
@khaleesi8278 2 жыл бұрын
First off, I love LOVE that you can sponsor your own video!!! I can't wait to try the coffee myself! Second, do we know how nagini got to the UK? because she was in a circus in America in the first movie & in the books she meets voldermort in a forest somewherein Europe, right?
@amandawolfe4994
@amandawolfe4994 2 жыл бұрын
As always, boys you have done an amazing job. Love your opinions on HP and FB, the theories are very plausible and down right enjoyable!
@winnieye5017
@winnieye5017 2 жыл бұрын
Wow i am pretty convinced and i could definitely see this happening. In the first film we see Newt healing Jacob by just using his hands and i think he'd be perfectly fine without his magic, tho i'd be kinda sad if he canonically has no magic
@HectorT52
@HectorT52 2 жыл бұрын
I am sure if they don't explain it on the movies Rowling will make a tweet with a random reason. Personaly I think it is just that the story wasn't tought about until the succes of Hp movies and merch
@Nanalagoon
@Nanalagoon 2 жыл бұрын
Great video / theory! I'll have to think about this one for a while
@mryoungandbrave1
@mryoungandbrave1 2 жыл бұрын
As per usual, I start the video a sceptic and by the end I'm completely sold on this idea.
@aaronembry9692
@aaronembry9692 2 жыл бұрын
I think obscurus are the key to Dumbledore and/or Grindelwald breaking the blood pact. An obscurus occurs from suppressing magic, so what happens if you suppress only a very specific part of magic like say a magical pact. Could this possibly create an obscurus? In the 1st Fantastic Beasts film Newt has an obscurus he managed to pull out of a young girl. Granted she didn't survive, but what if someone as powerful as Dumbledore created a minor obscurus in himself from the magic of the blood pact? I think it would be possible for Newt to help Dumbledore safely remove it with both of their experiences and power.
@claudiagomez917
@claudiagomez917 2 жыл бұрын
I'm SOOO excited for Ben and Alyce! Has she delivered yet? Any updates on their condition???
@melonholly7693
@melonholly7693 Жыл бұрын
AHHHH I have a thought on the hotdog. It's PROCESSED FOOD which is what Jacob says was killing him (well, the factory of processed foods) and so I think it's a syllabic opposite of Jacob's natural, homemade pastries. Tina originally juxtaposes herself from "the No-Maj," and I think it also relates to the idea that magic can feel like a quick fix instead of a labor of love. And perhaps, just like the dialogue about WWI between Newt & Jacob, Jacob - and all muggles - do affect wizards. He's making the food she (and other wizards) eats. Both communities affect each other...... I had only planned to say, "hotdogs vs pastries" but yeah, additional thoughts over.
@melonholly7693
@melonholly7693 Жыл бұрын
symbolic*
@penneyburgess5431
@penneyburgess5431 2 жыл бұрын
I am going to be really angry if what Dumbledore witnesses in the mirror of Erised is a memory. You are only to see what you want the most, so what he sees cannot be what actually happened, but what Dumbledore wishes happened. It’s definitely a blood oath, and it blocks Dumbledore from moving against Grindlewald, but I don’t think it is what we have been led to believe. If anyone disagrees with this, read HP book 1, chapter 12. I don’t think Newt would ever have joined the first battle if Dumbledore hadn’t tricked him into it. He didn’t even want to pick a side to fight on until his brother lost Leta. I don’t think Newt will allow himself to be manipulated by Dumbledore again. Either that, or he suffers such losses that Dumbledore would never ask him. I am not sure about Credence. My best guess is he is Draco’s grandpa. He’s the right age and temperament.
@adriebaby4137
@adriebaby4137 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you guys for still doing Fantastic Beasts content. I'm definitely still invested although the franchise seems to be losing steam.
@katherinebackus2158
@katherinebackus2158 2 жыл бұрын
Where did the slotherin pillowcase come from? Absolutely love it, but definitely interesting videos
@ninclow5421
@ninclow5421 2 жыл бұрын
To be fair, in the fifth book, Ron and Hermione informs Harry that they believe there to be more than the twenty-something members that they've met, and Moody tells Harry of a rear Advance Guard that was to take over if the initial group were to be attacked, although more or less every identified member of the Order save Sirius Black and the extended Weasley family were in it. So how do we know Newt wasn't in the Order? Newt, Tina and/or Theseus might have passed Ron and Hermione on their way to a meeting, and they didn't realize who these old people were.
@ragheborfali3432
@ragheborfali3432 2 жыл бұрын
Just realised I've been following you guys for 6 years...still awseome
@Sarriuz
@Sarriuz 2 жыл бұрын
Meanwhile the writers for the movies: Write that down! Write that down!
@Jenisonc
@Jenisonc 2 жыл бұрын
My thoughts about the naming of the movies. I think they are using "beast" as a blanket term now. The first movie made you think "Animals!" But now it's a colloquialism for something inside of us all? Maybe.
@MordechaiHershoffyoutube
@MordechaiHershoffyoutube 2 жыл бұрын
I think Newt was simply done with openly confronting anyone it's more like he helped Dumbledore in unknown ways during the Harry Potter series + the real reason we don't know about Newt is because this series is an afterthought
@kiarapinto8884
@kiarapinto8884 2 жыл бұрын
I haven’t been this early in a really long time, like years. This is incredibly cool and exciting.
@vristlol4369
@vristlol4369 2 жыл бұрын
luv u guys and ur content
@dijonee2010
@dijonee2010 2 жыл бұрын
Excited to catch a new video so early 👍🏽
@SuperCarlinBrothers
@SuperCarlinBrothers 2 жыл бұрын
NICE!
@BlueJay2
@BlueJay2 2 жыл бұрын
This isn't really related to the video at all, but I love that one of their set background shelves is just entirely dedicated to Hagrid.
@Alex-uh7vz
@Alex-uh7vz 2 жыл бұрын
Normally I go along with way more of your theories than I expect. But two things: 1. How does absorbing a very powerful magical being take away your magic? 2. JKR knew about the Scamanders, she knew Luna would marry Rolf, she knew, judging by the book "Fantastic beasts and where to find them", that Newt had a connection to Dumbledore and had a wife. So, if Newt only stays away from the war against Voldemort because of his lost magical powers, how come we never hear about the rest of the family? Rolf could have been mentioned as a student at Hogwarts either way... I don't know, it just still doesn't add up to me.
@TiggerTiger21
@TiggerTiger21 2 жыл бұрын
The LEGO minifigure version of Tina from the HP minifigure series 1 comes with a hot dog so I have to believe that hot dog is integral to Tina’s character.
@asheneyes8605
@asheneyes8605 2 жыл бұрын
there's one thing you missed and that is that newt showed up on the marauders map in hogwarts at one point. I think it was during the prisoner of Azkaban.
@wordscrafter
@wordscrafter 2 жыл бұрын
By the time HP happens, Newt is a grandfather. Also, he tries to avoid conflict. Yes, he's an incredibly powerful wizard, but he doesn't use his abilities for fighting. In many ways, it seems he has the mindset of a doctor, trying to protect, heal, and preserve life. I imagine war would be particularly devastating for him. Dunno. Just my thoughts...
@lonelyprince0
@lonelyprince0 2 жыл бұрын
Honestly, It feels like when they made the first Fantastic Beast movie, they wanted some big reveal at the very end so they threw in the Grindelwald reveal without thinking of the ramification and implication to the original series. Then they realized this movie was making a killing at the box office so they decided to make it a 5? movie series instead and cobbled together some poorly thought out explanation as to why this movie needs to keep going
@Georgiana216
@Georgiana216 2 жыл бұрын
Think they were producing the first movie with the "it'll be a 5 film series" thought in mind
@Serendipideemusic
@Serendipideemusic 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, J.K Rowling wrote the script intending for it to have multiple instalments.
@vntajones
@vntajones 2 жыл бұрын
Yes Warner brother wants the money
@FlynnTheRedhead
@FlynnTheRedhead 2 жыл бұрын
If he gives up his magic, could he still see Hogwarts? Would it make him like a squib, or like a muggle? Asking this because of the Prisoner of Azkaban easter egg
@davidmallette8079
@davidmallette8079 2 жыл бұрын
This magic that Credence uses, could be magic caused by thoughts in the movement/space thought mixed with theory thinking, which formed by his anger dwelling in his heart. What I mean is that instead of thinking of punching someone, he has power that listens to his thoughts. Other people do this but lack power, but most things go unnoticed like Harry's hair. Some break them selves, the rare ones like the Dumbledore family, Girndelwald and Tom Riddle Jr. are geniuses.
@tukozodiac4112
@tukozodiac4112 2 жыл бұрын
At this point I have to subscribe. Y'all have elevated my level of thinking and analyzing my childhood 🤣 Stop making sense!
@Luke_Films
@Luke_Films 2 жыл бұрын
Cool video, I really liked the idea of the theory. And this a really great mile on the road to Fantastic Beasts: The Secrets of Dumbledore.
@ragheborfali3432
@ragheborfali3432 2 жыл бұрын
"being human can be exhausting" the truest statement ever
@Chrisherm13
@Chrisherm13 2 жыл бұрын
I actually agree with this to a point. I don’t think it will be Newt who absorbs Credence. I think Credence will sacrifice himself and go into Grindelwald. Which would explain why Grindelwald never escaped Nurmengard. He physically had no ability.
@Nadine19891908
@Nadine19891908 2 жыл бұрын
3:09 Is that a subtle imitation of Simon Whistler's style of speaking on his Brain Blaze channel??? OGBB!
@wyattguilliams5325
@wyattguilliams5325 2 жыл бұрын
I can't remember who did it but in the movie where the marauders map was partly displayed throughout you can see Dumbledore talking with Newt in his office in one of the scenes so Newt WAS THERE he just didn't have an active role that we could see at the time
@marijkeprevoo
@marijkeprevoo 2 жыл бұрын
Idea for a new video: who is the half-blood singer in Fantastic beasts and where to find them, with the snake jewelery on her head?
@terraynahallen
@terraynahallen 2 жыл бұрын
I love the videos and enjoyed this one. But I don’t like the idea that Newt gives up magic and lets the obscurus (sorry about my spelling) possess him. That just seems dumb on his part because they kill their host. Again, I enjoyed the video. 😊
@samanthamorton3397
@samanthamorton3397 2 жыл бұрын
my puzzle came in! so excited! happy 30th birthday to me! (in a few weeks!) another great video!
@mellchiril
@mellchiril 2 жыл бұрын
Well, this theory does sound better than having to accept that Newt is a side character in his own story.
@jessicastar433
@jessicastar433 2 жыл бұрын
I would love to have you two record HP audiobooks
@Fantom_210
@Fantom_210 2 жыл бұрын
I don’t know if y’all have done a video on this but what happens when you get expelled from a wizarding school? We know your wand is broken, but both hagrid and newt still use magic. How are you viewed in the community? What happens if you’re caught using magic? Can you get another wand since we know wizards can get multiple wands? The ministry doesnt track magic usage well so how can they stop you. We also know that wandless magic is possible so breaking the wand doesn’t completely stop someone.
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