Will We Ever See Another Good MMORPG?

Will We Ever See Another Good MMORPG? - MadSeasonShow Reacts

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2 ай бұрын

Will there ever be another MMO to match the popularity of WoW's release in 2004? Or even any that are good?
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@madseasonshow 2 ай бұрын

Talking about the state of the current mmo industry, and also its future. Not sure if it'll be the next, but working on famous/infamous WoW player part 5 right now :D

@jardson11 2 ай бұрын

Thanks for speaking up about this! I was searching this exactly same topic today and was wondering what are you thoughts about the actual state of the mmo market (:

@chrisc7110 2 ай бұрын

Just wanted to thank you for getting me through some bad years where i was too sick to even play wow. Appreciate ya ol buddy

@WebHead18 2 ай бұрын

Happy to see you're finding your stride. Really enjoying the content.

@iller3 2 ай бұрын

just to confirm your experience: Yes...your friend putting their fist through something while enhancing in BDO....is Peak-BDO

@jesse-got-dolphins-into-heaven 2 ай бұрын

i was always upset i missed out on starwars galaxies

@TheNewLooter 2 ай бұрын

The guide culture / meta chasing is what ensures that no MMO will ever give the same sense of wonder as early WoW

@Sam-cw4ed 2 ай бұрын

The problem is you can choose to ignore that in single player, I've checked wiki for bg3 and elden ring very little. But for MMOs you'll just get left behind because you're behind the curve/gearscore isn't good enough

@TheNewLooter 2 ай бұрын

@@Sam-cw4ed yep. Back in the day, there was a lot of experimentation involved with basically everything, there were no public logs to check what the top dogs were using and the best guilds guarded their secrets. And nowadays, there are people whose job is making sure they have the meta tested and published by the time the content patch hits live.

@sig5750 2 ай бұрын

It's happening with multiplayer games as well; Helldivers is having some growing pains because of some iffy balance changes, and the community is so full of vitriol over stuff being "shit" and "non-viable". All this in a lax PVE game with no leaderboards or elements of competition (if anything co-operation is encouraged!). Seeing people with the metaslave loadouts is disheartening, they put their desire to beat the game as effortlessly as possible over the fun shenanigans of playing with other people and pulling off missions with the wildest equipment.

@jumpingman6612 2 ай бұрын

This is a problem, like it or not. But the attention problem is relevant, sadly.

@krodmandoon3479 2 ай бұрын

Or all of Everquest. You could as 20 different people about the Sand Giants spawn pattern and get 20 different answers. Hell, I bet people aren't even 100% sure to this day.

@J1mmy 2 ай бұрын

ok now THIS is epic, did not expect this!!! Much love dude ❤

@iller3 2 ай бұрын

was way more comfortable to watch too (compared to asmons response)

@oopomopoo 2 ай бұрын

J1mmy mvp. Tbh would be kinda nice for the anti- react youtubers like darkviper if you post stats a week or two out showing the algorithm stuff regarding overall viewers to your channel, subscribers, as well as possibly reach.

@madseasonshow 2 ай бұрын

Great job on the video, I've been binging your channel

@boosha12345 2 ай бұрын

j1mmy on madseason let's goooooo

@J1mmy 2 ай бұрын

@@madseasonshow that's so sick, I appreciate it :D the fact that this video popped up in my sub box was a wild experience - just finished watching and loved hearing your thoughts on everything.

@BasicMaffs 2 ай бұрын

He’s pumping them out y’all

@MattDamon69 2 ай бұрын

I wish he would pump me out…then in…then out…

@Chino-bk9fd 2 ай бұрын

i love pumping

@Bronimin 2 ай бұрын

madseasongold

@dectocs 2 ай бұрын

😂😂 should we be worried?!?

@organicleaf 2 ай бұрын

@@Chino-bk9fd ayo? 🤨

@KorpseTE 2 ай бұрын

"If a piece content has a title as a question, the answer is no." D:

@Nagria2112 2 ай бұрын

actually: no. many studies have shown its mostly 50/50

@morthim 2 ай бұрын

@@Nagria2112 i too avoid doing my homework.

@atraxian5881 2 ай бұрын

Not really, tho. In most game challenge videos, if the title is a question, most of the time the answer is "yes and see how I did it".

@Russtick92 2 ай бұрын

Hearing Madseasonshow chuckle to himself whilst telling stories of the past really made me smile this evening.

@Avatar_of_Chairness 2 ай бұрын

Aye it's quite endearing

@Xuhtig 2 ай бұрын

What about this morning?

@shampp5411 2 ай бұрын

Neverwinter's system for creating your own instance is a space that studios should be playing in. It was so fun to explore different dungeons that people had created with their own stories and themes. Someone needs to really perfect that and let the community run wild with it.

@japes2310 2 ай бұрын

That Steve Jobs quote really hit the nail on the head

@russellhumphrey5209 2 ай бұрын

Just so you know the "I told you so" has yet to feel old. Even the like 8m version used this time

@Eldrek- 2 ай бұрын

That Steve Jobs clip with the WoW shop in the background went hard. Make that a short

@Scitch-et4vk 2 ай бұрын

The steve jobs quote ! Holy shit he summed up the entire games industry right now

@sarysa 2 ай бұрын

And, ironically, the cell phone industry...aka the modern poster child of stagnation.

@MoonMage67 2 ай бұрын

he summed up all industries

@LordJaroh 2 ай бұрын

Yup, because fooling people into buying stuff is more cost effective, especially in the shareholder-driven short-term, than actually making stuff good to get long-term success.

@TowerWatchTV 2 ай бұрын

And ironically his own company faced the same consequences, literally proving he was right. Mad.

@SporkyMcFly 2 ай бұрын

@@TowerWatchTV If he were to come alive for a day he would kill himself after seeing what his company has become.

@belissarius2397 2 ай бұрын

The fact J1mmy is getting more and more popularity from even youtube big boys like asmon, and then legends like madseason is so nice to see

@Techghoul23 2 ай бұрын

agreed, j1mmy is great

@madseasonshow 2 ай бұрын

Great channel. I might have to check out runescape soon

@Shineplasma 2 ай бұрын

@@madseasonshow OSRS is very different than other MMOs, especially WoW, but I've been fortunate to split my "Home base" between RS and WoW during the entirety of their lifespans now. OSRS has only gotten better over the years, the team at Jagex is doing amazing work. Polar opposite of my experience with Blizzard.

@scoops2 2 ай бұрын

@@madseasonshowI feel like you’d love osrs. No mtx, no shortcuts, no handouts, great community. It’s focused on the journey not the destination like classic.

@jessedavis5992 2 ай бұрын

Osrs should be called grind the game, with that being said, I do love me some osrs

@jon4715 2 ай бұрын

I thought original release The Old Republic was good. Hutt ball as a bounty hunter was incredibly satisfying.

@thearmourboy3254 2 ай бұрын

It was ok but its problem was the same as so many others, it wasn't that different from WoW and its combat and end game wasn't as good.

@OrgusDin 2 ай бұрын

The best part of The Old Republic was sending Jedi padawans to face Bengal Morr with sticks resembling lightsabers and not really caring if it works out or not.

@ClausRow 2 ай бұрын

THESE ARE THE RULES OF HUT BALLLLL!

@austin..... 2 ай бұрын

My personal dream colab would be you and Josh Strife going at it together about the mmo industry, the takes you two would have together would be so great

@madseasonshow 2 ай бұрын

Great channel, one of my favorites

@lightsfury9096 2 ай бұрын

Please try make it happen! It would be the epic Collab of the year

@Nu_C-Jay 2 ай бұрын

No thanks! Josh Strife is making such lazy and bad videos! It’s just him talking in front of a camera and barely any editing LoL!

@Jabarri74 2 ай бұрын

@@Nu_C-Jay Maybe if ya quit ya yapping and listen to him you might get his videos

@Masterho310 2 ай бұрын

At this point, given how much the gaming industry has changed for the worst in the last decade. Probably not. Everything now is live service games. MMOs are complicated and expensive to make. Easier to just make a mobile game with micro transactions and you can make more money much safer than trying to do an MMO in current year.

@jjd-lx5vr 2 ай бұрын

Sadly have to agree with you. When iPhones were new cell phone games were fun, now its just pure pay to win with the microtransactions. I don't even play cell phone games anymore. I don't think an MMO that starts with microtransactions will be successful long term.

@iller3 2 ай бұрын

Well it's really about Netcode and "data security" at this point. Small teams of indie folks can scramble together some really viral games in no time at all thanks to the advancement we've seen in engines and authoring Tools. But their access to all the networking related tech and NPC A.I. scripting is still no better than it was 30 years back. (this is probably due to too much consolidation by companies like Microsoft, Oracle, Google, Amazon, etc...)

@seanwilliams7655 2 ай бұрын

@@jjd-lx5vr I can't find any decent mobile games for my kid to play anymore. Even just a few years ago, it was free to play, then play $5 or so to not see adds. Now, it seems like everything is a subscripton.

@mikeclarke3990 2 ай бұрын

Also they need to be playable on console now to be financially viable. PC players now riot if their game is not available on STEAM (Idiots imo) and most MMORPG had their own launchers so were not giving lord Gaben a 30% cut.

@miketaddio8342 2 ай бұрын

It's the whole "Money Ball" thing. Ever since analytics took over pro sports, it's the whole thing where a whole bunch of scientists, that have zero experience in the thing they're analyzing, end up making the most consequential decisions, and after sports, it slowly leaked into every other thing that was working just fine...

@seanwilliams7655 2 ай бұрын

I think Mad was right about the basics. MMOs 20 years ago functioned like a sort of social media. It was a novel experience to exist in this shared online space with a bunch of other people. Now it's pretty common. And that's kind of the biggest issue MMOs face. Also, pretty much everything they did well is done as well or better in something else now. You want single player exploration? Skyrim. You want PvP? Overwatch. You want to socialize? Social media. Pretty much the only thing WoW does better than other genres at this point is large scale PvE raids. In addition to this, the game simply cost so much to make and run. If these games could somehow be run by A or AA developers, then they'd probably be happy with a player count around 200-400k. But most AAA studios aren't going to like that.

@OrgusDin 2 ай бұрын

@@seanwilliams7655 The money thing is the biggest issue, you aren't going to get handed the amount you need to dev an MMO anymore, you'd need one guy or a group that is willing to fund the game and not care if it is just throwing money into a pit.

@seanwilliams7655 2 ай бұрын

@@OrgusDin you could possibly get around that by raising the sub fee. If you only have k players, but they're paying $30/month, maybe it's worth it then. But I still think the biggest issue is simply the amount of time that needs to be invested into the game to build the community people seem to want. I don't think you're going to have millions of people in 2024 who want to spend 20+ hours a week playing one game.

@OrgusDin 2 ай бұрын

@@seanwilliams7655 You don't really need millions, I've had a great time on servers for games with only a couple hundred to thousands of people. It depends on what kind of game it is though and how its systems work, if you need 40 people to raid vs. 5 it's a big deal to have a bigger community etc. I really fear the bot zerg most personally, unless it incorporates LLMs somehow in which case you could have realistic synthetic players in the mix like GW1 had henchmen to hire. It's all hypothetical game specific though.

@seanwilliams7655 2 ай бұрын

@@OrgusDin you don't need millions as a player, but you need enough for it to be profitable for whoever is making it. That's the issue.

@Kelso540 2 ай бұрын

Man, Runescape 1 back in 2001 was my introduction to MMO's. I still remember mining coal in the Barbarian Village and grinding steel shortswords to vendor off. ...or finally getting the ability to use the desert entrance shortcut once I finished the quest. ...or running naked through the wilderness to go explore and getting smoked lmao. ...or finally learning how to use colored text and selling lobsters in the marketplace. Good memories, man.

@java7583 2 ай бұрын

The number of videos you've put out recently is wild, I never minded the time between uploads but it's neat to have so much new stuff at once!

@muffinman5958 2 ай бұрын

I really dont think there will be another MASSIVE MMORPG for the simple reason that the main thing that brought people to the old mmos was the fact that everything was undiscovered and a little scuffed, look at vanilla wow and why it was unironically so good for a new player even in 2020. Tons to discover things were kinda scuffed.

@DanielMoore3d 2 ай бұрын

Been working in the video game industry for almost 13 years now. It has its ups and downs just like any profession. Sometimes I wish i was mowing lawns instead of working in game dev, and sometimes I fall in love with working on games all over again. It depends on the project and the team. I've worked on MMO's before (including wow), but I've never got in at the start. I enjoy working in MMO's but I'd love to be there at the start for all the incredibly fun brainstorming and white boxing. I keep faith there will be another mmo that has the same fun as WoW when it first launched, but its going to take a really passionate indie team. Building it over a long period of time with lots of community feedback.

@RedRamDRA 2 ай бұрын

Main issue with MMOs (and MOBAs) is they compete not for 10 or 20 hours of time - they compete with years invested versus the years already invested in the other MMO/MOBA. That's why single player games, or co-op games such as Divinity or Baldur's Gate 3 are much more likely to be made and thrive.

@lpcmark 2 ай бұрын

Old-school Runescape literally does everything right that all these other MMOs do wrong. When you play OSRS read all of the dialog in quests and when you finally infiltrate the penguin HQ, you will understand.

@guycomputer829 2 ай бұрын

Gah, man, the background music throughout this really took me back to the good days. Might have to fire up some old school Final Fantasy titles now. Thanks for the vid dude.

@psvm_ 2 ай бұрын

J1mmy AND MadSeasonShow, my two favourite things together!

@colewrathman4472 2 ай бұрын

The most fun I had at max level in vanilla was 5 mans on my mage. During WotLK and Cata, I was a pally tank and had fun with the 5 mans. In other xpacs, once I got to max was level, I would level alts, help guildies level and run guild events.

@warlock356 2 ай бұрын

I find Madseason’s reaction videos really encouraging. It kind of reminds me of how academics respond to each other’s papers. With enough effort put into properly contextualizing the original video, and offering your own unique response, these videos can feel more like a dialogue between experts than just low effort rip offs. Good job dude. Really enjoying all the stuff you’ve been putting out.

@Sanoskesagara 2 ай бұрын

The way you drew your lil helm makes it look like an anvil kinda. Neat.

@Pichelinou 2 ай бұрын

Love your recent reacts, keep it up !

@boot-strapper 2 ай бұрын

old school EQ leveling was great. it took people 12-24 months of regular play to get max level. And the majority of players never reached max level. I want that in the next big mmo.

@MurakamiTenshi 2 ай бұрын

I started with Korean grinders in the early 00s, and I hope the never repeat those same mistakes made. Long grind time need to be masked with short term gains, otherwise people will get bored and quit halfway.

@boot-strapper 2 ай бұрын

@@MurakamiTenshi luckily EQ didn’t feel that grindy imo. The grouping and combat mechanics loop was fun.

@ryuno2097 2 ай бұрын

I don't think today's audience will want that long grind to max level anymore. People have lost patience in taking the time to enjoy the game and just want instant gratification. Sure there are players who don't mind the slow pace but sadly these players are a small portion of the bigger playerbase (well... somewhat big.. it ain't as big as back in the 2000s-2010s).

@EB-bl6cc 2 ай бұрын

Agreed. I think end-game content is awesome but damn it should really be about the journey too. I don't want to have to level to max before I get to have fun

@jeremywright9511 Ай бұрын

@@ryuno2097 Black Desert has a big playerbase even though you can grind for a thousand hours and barely move forward.

@zombodyhelp6992 2 ай бұрын

So Happy you're posting and experimenting at the rate you're publishing. So far everything you've published I support all the way! Keep having fun and doing what feels right for you. You don't miss!

@Nu_C-Jay 2 ай бұрын

Holy crap you are dropping so many videos and at the same time keeping the quality!🎉🎉 Wow that’s something you don’t see anymore on KZfaq .

@Dangerpurple 2 ай бұрын

I think it's fair to recognize that "flash in the pan" for an MMO means under 5 year lifespan. Shadowbane for instance ran from 2003 to 2009. It was a great fun game, with guild made castles and conflicts, harsh intense PVP with loot dropping, and a HUGE number of classes and races, some of which even had big modification to your gameplay, like the flying races, centaur, and even minotaurs which got larger with their strength. But a lot of people never heard of it, and because it's not STILL running it is not considered a great classic mmo. Warhammer Online: Age of Reckoning as well ran for 5 years, but people considered it a failure because it shut down. WildStar Also lasted 4 years, I personally loved it and played it a ton. TERA lasted 10 years and people claim it was a failure because it shut down Generally, a single player game with a linear story loses 90% of it's playerbase on the metrics in the first month, because people beat the game and move on. But no one judges them by that metric. For some reason an mmo has to basically be online forever to be considered a success. The genre is not dying imo, there are millions and millions of MMO players. Lost Ark STILL has 75,545 people online via steam right now. Sorry for going on a tangent 44 seconds into the video, but I just really hate that framing and think it's inaccurate.

@Dangerpurple 2 ай бұрын

Yeah, using WaR as an example, "it flatlines' yeah, after 5 years. People consider an MMO dead and a failure even if it lives for 5 years. The standards are so silly. We have many mmo's coming out or in development RIGHT NOW as well.

@RonOnTheWay 2 ай бұрын

The community in shadowbane was part of the reason it failed. "We ran those noobs off the server, yeah!!!" a few too many times.

@KEHEffC 2 ай бұрын

Oh shit someone else who used to play Shadowbane! I loved that game - I was still a young teen when I was playing it but had a blast as a thief stealing directly from other players inventories. The game does actually still have a few hundred people who play it, but it's on a decent sized private server. I tried the server out and had a good time leveling a sentinel, but sadly some of the 40+ year olds playing the game were dropping slurs in discord like they were playing CoD on Xbox 360 in 2011. I definitely used to be that toxic, but nowadays there's more fun and inventive ways to insult someone other than just calling them a slur. I've been wanting to see Josh Strife Hayes make a video on Shadowbane, but I think it was too niche as a PvP MMO for him to be able to get enough good content to make a video out of it. I'll never forget the years I spent in Shadowbane - it helped shape me into the MMO player that I am today.

@Dangerpurple 2 ай бұрын

@@Dirtnose Exactly, how many years and 1000s of hours does a game need to provide to be considered a success? I am willing to bed 1000 fps games have launched in the last 5 years, and you might be able to name 10 of them if you sat and thought about it. A F2P mmo with 5-10k population is IMO thriving, especially if the scope is not that insanely high and the upkeep is cheap.

@Dangerpurple 2 ай бұрын

@@KEHEffC It seems that dark ages of camelot private server is one of the few very professional and open community p-servers, I've had no urge to jump into shadowbane as I'm sure it must be all old vets who oust non veteran players quickly with the games unforgiving pvp mechanics. Though, as someone who used to run a protection racket for noobies who wanted to farm the well, and then just...killed them all and looted the gold they farmed me over the course of 3-4 hours, I can't claim to be innocent LOL

@Reldonator 2 ай бұрын

This will be my 4th time watching j1mmys video. Original, asmons react, j1mmys react to asmons react, now this XD

@tobi1560 2 ай бұрын

Yt be like: he will watch anything at this point

@Reldonator 2 ай бұрын

@@tobi1560 nah I've followed j1mmy Asmon and MadSeason for years, it has just been a massive crossover. Also Josh Strife Hayes on the second monitor

@kozmo7 2 ай бұрын

Love how you used the reaction as a jumping off point to just speak about things dude. It’s a great addition to what you offer on your channel as I know you’ve said these are easier and quicker to make unless I’m misunderstanding something. Good stuff dude

@Draethar 2 ай бұрын

Love the content! Keep it up MadSeason!

@unrighteous8745 2 ай бұрын

5:25 These series' that people used to cherish just seemed to have become so disconnected." (long pause on Street Fighter V) This is a very confusing reference. SFV was received really poorly back in 2016 (8 years ago); however, Street Fighter 6 launched in 2023 and was perhaps the greatest fighting game launch ever. Not criticizing your point (I agree), just a very odd visual example for that point.

@420OngBak 2 ай бұрын

People weren't exactly hyped about modern controls if we're being honest. But yeah SF6 is sick

@emikke 28 күн бұрын

We will see another mmorpg. But the success of Wow had to do with mass unemployment among young people.

@LifeIE 2 ай бұрын

I'm really enjoying your new content!! Don't stop!

@Zaspor 2 ай бұрын

My 2nd video of yours I watched, really enjoying how you cover things. I shall sub!

@DungeonForgeGaming 2 ай бұрын

You are correct, it takes the perfect amount of open time, and sadly for most the world we are all fighting for the next day under the current workings of the world. I hope it changes, but one can only hope.

@ChessJew 2 ай бұрын

MORE MADSEASON?! HUZZAH!

@kambo954 2 ай бұрын

Love this new video format!

@CoreyAllgood 2 ай бұрын

I comment very infrequently, but I wanted to say thanks for really coming back. I think we both miss WoW the way that it was, but your videos are amazing to listen to while I clean my space or get work done. Love you, mystery monotone man.

@madseasonshow 2 ай бұрын

Thanks for watching! It's good to be back

@illeagle666 2 ай бұрын

Madseason, could you do a "lore to sleep to" series? :)

@MSDGAMEZ 2 ай бұрын

Why is my GF watching this channel all the time?

@steely4729 2 ай бұрын

That smooth, smoothhh voice.

@iller3 2 ай бұрын

Good editing and perfect pacing for the most part. It's not the most riveting content but puts one in a very cozy comfort zone

@nachomanrandy 2 ай бұрын

Because you are getting cucked

@clueless4085 2 ай бұрын

Glad you're back to regular content, Mads (: I've been watching since pre classic wow and can't express how much I enjoy your work.

@stormrider8286 2 ай бұрын

You are doing an awesome job and I am so happy you're back. Keep up the good work.

@radandpaisley 2 ай бұрын

I watched this when J1mmy posted it. I watched when Asmon reacted. What's once more 'round the sun, eh lads?

@MaitreMechant 2 ай бұрын

have you watched j1mmy reacting to asmon reacting to his vid ? xd

@Ronbotnik 2 ай бұрын

after experiencing so many failed MMO followups its hard to still have hope. i can completely see why Blizzard doesnt want to make a WoW2. flash in the pan is the perfect way to describe modern MMOs

@Shayde7098 2 ай бұрын

just wanna say LOVE all the new react content, mad! keep em coming

@steeljester1188 2 ай бұрын

Loving the new videos 🙌

@KSabot 2 ай бұрын

In regards to the toner heads clip, it's ultimately the shareholders that are the root cause of these corporatization problems in the AAA industry, their demands for forever increasing dividends necessitate ever shorter sighted decisions such as that toner head problem Jobs explains. Publicly traded companies is the cancer.

@mk_gamíng0609 2 ай бұрын

Before I watch the video just my thoughts I think WOW and the MMOS of that time, came out at a perfect time, but now for the younger generations MMOs are not what they seek and to the already existing fanbase, most people no longer have the time to really commit.

@LordMuzhy 2 ай бұрын

This is tough to hear as a 35 year old but you’re absolutely correct. Even if WoW 2 or the perfect MMO came out I wouldn’t be able to sink the same amount of time I did back during the vanilla-WotLK era 😔

@NachozMan 2 ай бұрын

Love just hearing your thoughts, you've a wonderful voice!

@oldschoolnateguy 2 ай бұрын

Glad to see you enjoying making content again,

@Xhotic 2 ай бұрын

J1mmy once again showing out for the MMORPG community, mans is a OSRS Legend and now moving his name throughout the ranks of the MMO playing field.... the true G.O.A.T for MMO players

@madseasonshow 2 ай бұрын

Great channel, highly recommend

@matshepherd118 2 ай бұрын

After EverQuest, WoW was a good little sister MMO, but it was over.

@FilianClipperSnacker 2 ай бұрын

Oh man, what a treat. J1mmy happens to be one of my favourite creators, he's like the MadSeasonShow of OSRS - his love for the game never seems to burn out.

@icanrememberthis 2 ай бұрын

Man you are just pumping out the content, much appreciated :clap

@mightylink65 2 ай бұрын

No one wants to spend more than 2 years making a game anymore... publishers are now pushing too hard to get an instant return they don't allow any developers to take their time.

@DjZephy 2 ай бұрын

People seem to think that if a game isn't the #1 viewed game on twitch, with the most subscribers of any mmo of all time, and the number of subscribers isn't continuously increasing and NEVER decreasing, then it must be a complete failure.... It's completely irrational.

@iller3 2 ай бұрын

"people" ? I think you mean Investors. This is a problem affecting the entire world right now, shareholders aren't "happy" with stuff merely making "a profit" anymore. They are demanding huge returns and when they don't get them they short the company out of existence

@MidniteVendettaOfficial Ай бұрын

Love your channel man you give really good points bout SC and WoW thank you 🙏

@Claptrapin 2 ай бұрын

All this madseason content makes me happy 😊

@DarksLive2D 2 ай бұрын

Love when my two favorite MMO video essay creators find each other.

@jchinckley 22 күн бұрын

That photo of Boogie at 7:14 is the best one of him I think I've ever seen.

@jchinckley 22 күн бұрын

Long live the Dewmaster! Ho!! Spurmberp! Sell me some of your wares!

@DJSaltyLove 2 ай бұрын

nice to see a crossover episode between two content creators I love lol.

@giladeliyahu2716 2 ай бұрын

love ur videos dude mad respect

@conrizzy96 2 ай бұрын

Love the banjo kazooie background music, such a vibe

@alexanderapel1545 2 ай бұрын

Its grea to se you make content again man! Is there any chance someone could be as lucky to see top 10 or top 20 videos form you again :O?

@madseasonshow 2 ай бұрын

Thanks. For sure, I love top 10 lists

@aeonxiv9867 2 ай бұрын

Love your channel glad we’re getting so much content right now

@jacobmcclure669 2 ай бұрын

Hearing you genuinely laugh makes me smile

@WellMetMunro 2 ай бұрын

Great video Madseason!

@zebliks 2 ай бұрын

im missing your chill streams!

@ZachariBarnes 2 ай бұрын

The choice of audio tracks in this video is top notch

@IamMrSimQn 2 ай бұрын

In the 48:48 segment you're basically describing osrs. The whole game is about your leveling journey and it's why so many love it

@tiagocoelho_art 2 ай бұрын

Hey mad, i'm loving the new videos, if I could leave you with a bit of criticism is that I think you need to tweak the sound a little more. This video in particular there's a huge gap in volume between you and jimmy, it's either jimmy blasting my speakers or barely being able to hear you. Keep up the good work though :)

@PawelCizi 2 ай бұрын

The Steve Jobs bit was so good. Madseason you are taking thia react format in a new and fun direction. I love this style of react.

@AwesomeKenneth240 2 ай бұрын

Love to see you branching out. Thanks for keeping us entertained.

@davidhenry1421 2 ай бұрын

That banjo Kazooie music. You really get the nostalgia feels going.

@VinceRadley 2 ай бұрын

I absolutely cherished your monotonous voice but I am not gonna lie: it feels good to hear you having some genuine laughter and higher pitch. There has been some smoothening positive vibes to your latest videos recently that give an overwhelming feeling that you are enjoying yourself at the moment. I wish you the very best and hope it will last.

@rafaelszczygielski1296 2 ай бұрын

2000's was the golden age of gaming for sure... you had the build up to wow, warcraft, warcraft 2, warcraft 3, Lan parties at internet cafes, Laptops and Computers where just getting affordable and more available.

@BasedFalcon 2 ай бұрын

Damn, Mad. Where did you find these snazzy bossa nova tracks?

@lukebobb 2 ай бұрын

Great video thanks man

@fiddlinfool1 2 ай бұрын

I have never heard Mad laugh before. This made sticking with the entirety of the video completely worth it.

@bernhardkruder4001 2 ай бұрын

You are so right about the social media „comparison“. I have 2 friends from different EU-countries and they met in molten core. They are a pair for 15 years now. She moved here and they are still married.

@9e7exkbzvwpf7c 2 ай бұрын

"Dory toes" 🤣

@sdwone 2 ай бұрын

Mad Season... What's got into mate? You're on FIRE LOL!!! 😁 And I LOVE it!!! Glad you're back man! You've been sorely missed! And it's good to bear witness to this current resurgence 👍

@c0mplicatec0mplicate30 2 ай бұрын

I really like the react content from you. Thanks!

@Epicdps 2 ай бұрын

My god the SOM music with your voice over it really makes my brain crave a MadSeasonShow let's play Secret of Mana series

@jeffmazziotta 2 ай бұрын

i think these companies need to somehow grab the massive numbers of players who used to play MMO's who left the genre. Of course, grabbing the new never before played crowds is big but there are many many many folks that are now feeling nostalgic for those classic wow days- people like myself that played wow from 2004-2008 then left for some reason or another and have never gone back to the genre since. Of course I think the success of Classic WoW seems to echo this thought, but this is just grabbing those who would literally replay the exact game again. A new game that can capture that feeling and experience again (if its even possible) has a chance to find a strong core audience, somehow this game will also need to be the same one that can capture the NEW audience..... finding this magic sweet spot is going to be the challenge. grab the folks that abandoned the genre but have nostalgia for it, build enough buzz to intrigue new interest by "never playeds" and have good enough gameplay to hook a decent percentage of those never playeds to stay along with the core nostalgia folks.

@neighborhoodpizzaguy 2 ай бұрын

Madseason can talk about anything and I'll want to tune in and zone out into the void

@_Just_John 2 ай бұрын

54:53 - This brings memories of playing ArcheAge. Community made events, fishing competition organized by server well known fisherman Fishermandan and so many other things. That is what I've been missing, the community.

@user-gr3ox3fw3o 2 ай бұрын

I love the soundtrack from Secret of Mana and Final Fantasy in the Background

@lallie338 2 ай бұрын

Plunderstorm was honestly pretty well received from the community. Some treated it as a grind cause they didn't like it for cosmetics, some just don't like battle royals, PvPers liked it for the new pvp mode, even if its not honor or conquest related, and for others it was a change of pace or something that was rather short and easy to jump into for something to do for a little bit while getting some rewards. So a mixed bag, but overall was liked since when it shut down, overall people wanted it to stay and not feel like a FOMO thing.

@tottorookokkoroo5318 2 ай бұрын

Blunderstorm is nothing like wow really, its more like completely seperate game just using bunch of wows assets.

@ianvincent1762 2 ай бұрын

Hey Mad! Love your content. I’ve played vanilla/classic which turned into retail. I came back for classic and during WOTLK classic went back and gave retail a try during all three of BFA and Shadowlands and DF. I can honestly say that Dragon Flight has the best gameplay of all the past three expansions. I hope that The War Within can keep the pace going and I also hope that you’ll give retail a chance again. As a “classic andy” give it a try. Lok’tar Ogar!!!

@kermitdfrog1511 2 ай бұрын

That jobs quote over top of wow footage hit so hard. You're a wizard

@andrewbunch2394 2 ай бұрын

I really like your reaction style videos because they are not like other reactions, where they just chime in at various points - you actually expand on stuff by inserting other videos and clips, so it is overall an edited and curated video while giving due and proper credit to the original creator

@rathenn6959 19 күн бұрын

Man I can't wait for the next WoW but honestly it was just the golden era where forums and social media wasn't all there to capture every detail and everything had a defined solution already found and catalogued. It had that sense of exploration and uncertainty - mystery and novelty rather than wiki'ing. God I miss old WoW and Guild Wars...