Former Air Force Fighter Pilot Breaks Down 12 Fighter Pilot Scenes From Film & TV

Former Air Force Fighter Pilot Breaks Down 12 Fighter Pilot Scenes From Film & TV | WIRED

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Former U.S. Air Force fighter pilot Christine "Grinder" Mau examines some flying and dogfighting scenes from popular movies and television shows, and determines how accurate they really are. Could Iron Man actually outclass an F-22? As seen in 'Dunkirk,' what kind of a challenge does glare actually pose? Does 'The Incredibles' get pilot language right?
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@matiascandia4946 3 жыл бұрын

Imagine casually being able to say you used to fly strike eagles. Mad respect.

@pigeonbardum9628 3 жыл бұрын

@@malus1426 I dont see any logic in that... isnt women who VOLUNTEER instead of being drafted even MORE braver? Please explain your non logical comment.

@pigeonbardum9628 3 жыл бұрын

@@malus1426 yeah actually sorry for calling your comment non logical, i guess you have a point. But I respect the woman who volunteered. But you do have a point about all the equality stuff.

@idrisnewton4552 3 жыл бұрын

@@pigeonbardum9628 don't apologize, you had it right in the first response

@pigeonbardum9628 3 жыл бұрын

@@idrisnewton4552 oh ok

@grewgf7324 3 жыл бұрын

@@pigeonbardum9628 hahaha youre so sweet

@CraigGood 3 жыл бұрын

There was a character in early versions of The Incredibles who flew that jet. His scratch dialogue was performed by our purchasing agent at Pixar, DJ Jennings, who had been an Air Traffic Controller in an earlier life. That's why the lingo is correct. The story changed and Helen got to fly the plane herself.

@MAandS 3 жыл бұрын

These are the gems I search the KZfaq comments for.

@dogwalker666 3 жыл бұрын

Great to know thanks.

@queenentp5w68 3 жыл бұрын

The pilot's name was Snug Porter.

@dogwalker666 3 жыл бұрын

@@queenentp5w68 oh copyright problem with that name. Snug make pillows and quilts lol.

@yoodleyoda6228 3 жыл бұрын

Your so brilliant! Lol

@thomasg7864 3 жыл бұрын

She was a guest speaker at my school last year, amazing woman, very good at what she did and what she does now. She showed all the girls that they can be fighter pilots too, and really explained the way she got to fly. If i ever get a chance to hear her speak again ill definitely take it.

@mguarin912 2 жыл бұрын

@@tzackaria7 you are such a moron it’s laughable.

@dhrvb 2 жыл бұрын

@@tzackaria7 and how do YOU know that ? Did you have the training are is your experience with planes the ones you got for your 6th anniversary?

@lrbaumard 2 жыл бұрын

@@tzackaria7 lol stupidest thing i've read on the internet today. Congrats

@lordinquisitorstefanauster846 2 жыл бұрын

Guys stop replying to the troll and just report them for hate speech.

@poikazal 2 жыл бұрын

@@tzackaria7 there's some truth here.

@hudsonr.218 3 жыл бұрын

"Civilian aircraft don't have afterburner" Laughs in Concorde

@PunksloveTrumpys 3 жыл бұрын

Good man! I just said it too, still the only civilian aircraft to have them. RIP Concorde (1967-2003)

@JoshuaTootell 3 жыл бұрын

Considering that they are grounded forever...I still think it holds true.

@dsdy1205 3 жыл бұрын

Laughs in Garrett Falcon 20

@totallynotafed8786 3 жыл бұрын

@@dsdy1205 beat me to it

@drewmaus8879 3 жыл бұрын

that ain't no Concorde though

@antmills6097 3 жыл бұрын

Her love for Top Gun is awesome, let’s face it there must be so many real pilots that were inspired by that movie..

@BrightBlueJim 3 жыл бұрын

The U.S. Navy provided all of the assistance they could on Top Gun, knowing what a powerful recruiting tool it would be.

@gorzkawodka 2 жыл бұрын

I had the same dream when I first saw that movie :)

@13christbane 2 жыл бұрын

excellent flight scenes garbage movie

@emr1d341 2 жыл бұрын

@@BrightBlueJim Numbers in recruiting offices hiked after '86

@tlamprosser1994 2 жыл бұрын

When Grinder was a SAM Aggressor at Nellis, Top Gun was used in some of our instructional classes. She is a great person and a good boss!

@RayW808 3 жыл бұрын

So the most accurate movie, The Incredibles lol

@jeffbailey9764 3 жыл бұрын

Yup!

@grayman735 3 жыл бұрын

Yes 🤣

@aaronseet2738 3 жыл бұрын

Afterburner civilian plane. Yay.

@blake9908 3 жыл бұрын

@@aaronseet2738 To be fair, it was probably some secret military aircraft. I figure that due to the RWR and the like.

@Fyrmer 3 жыл бұрын

I believe there was a deleted scene that stated it was a custom aircraft an old friend of hers had built for her to use in her superhero career.

@Mububban23 2 жыл бұрын

Holly Hunter did a great job voice acting that scene in Incredibles, her tangible sense of parental panic when her children are being threatened was so well portrayed. She's trying to remain calm and professional but someone is going to kill her babies and she's on the ragged edge of losing it. So well done.

@bigbitehood1353 3 жыл бұрын

"I used to fly Strike Eagles..." you just became my new favorite lady

@Deathmastertx 3 жыл бұрын

"I used to fly Strike Eagles so that made me a little sad." Awww. Also props. Strike Eagles are badass.

@scarecrow108productions7 3 жыл бұрын

having seen her react to R2B, it was gold. And yeah, F-15E/K ftw!!

@davidmathes6730 3 жыл бұрын

They don't Tokyo drift lol Japanese haha

@davidmathes6730 3 жыл бұрын

She has tons of lil funny cut scenes in her videos that take hours and hours to collect the perfect ones.

@shrub9558 3 жыл бұрын

@@davidmathes6730 8 8 8

@sohailsayeed9361 3 жыл бұрын

As a person who works closely to Aircraft, seeing a bird go down is never easy.

@Bildam1 3 жыл бұрын

When an animated movie makes more sense and is more realistic than a Michael Bay movie.

@nedthomas6563 3 жыл бұрын

Implying that Micheal Bay movies aren’t basically animated movies at this point....

@queenentp5w68 3 жыл бұрын

@@nedthomas6563 Michael Bay movies use more cgi than Avatar.

@migcap7356 3 жыл бұрын

I don't watch Michael Bay movies but this ERB is the best thoughts of MB... kzfaq.info/get/bejne/eNmkm9h8uqu3c5s.html

@vikj1255 3 жыл бұрын

Michael Bay movies make zero sense.

@migcap7356 3 жыл бұрын

@@vikj1255 I know, you know... Watching his movies only kills brain cells, & gives you hearing loss... He's just in it for the 'mf'n' money...

@michaelcoats9154 3 жыл бұрын

I worked with her at Lakenheath. Such a cool and respected pilot!

@TheRealSlimSteve 2 жыл бұрын

Live close to Lakenheath. Nice to know she would have enjoyed the area here. And obvs an amazing pilot!

@derwindhund116 2 жыл бұрын

At least I now know who woke me up in Peterborough, after a night shift, those F15s would shake the house lol. Can't beat the sound of freedom.

@rickbreze7469 3 жыл бұрын

I spent twenty years in the Air Force as an aircraft engine mechanic. Much respect Christine, Salute.

@codexone2194 3 жыл бұрын

On another fighter pilot reaction someone said in regards to the heat seeking missiles: "Those missiles are not rabid dogs. They will not chase you to kingdom come." I had to laugh so hard 🤣😂

@DoggoWillink 3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, and they also travel at like Mach 3+, so they’d catch the plane very quickly.

@dampsok 3 жыл бұрын

The term for a missile who has it's own ability to track a target independently of the launch platform is called "going pitbull" so it would be at least colloquially accurate.

@itspersiangulfmoron.repeat2242 3 жыл бұрын

@@dampsok That's called "mad dog". "Pitbull" is when the aircraft tells the missile to track which target.

@orlock20 3 жыл бұрын

@@DoggoWillink Yeah it won't make sense for a missile to speed up to just get up behind an aircraft and then slow down to match the aircraft's speed.

@sce2aux464 3 жыл бұрын

They'll just send you there.

@DataCab1e 3 жыл бұрын

Helen's callsign of IG99 was a reference to Brad Bird's first film, The Iron Giant, released in '99.

@queenentp5w68 3 жыл бұрын

Seeing the Iron Giant in Ready Player One was epic!

@ke6ziu 3 жыл бұрын

@@queenentp5w68 what about the RX-78 Gundam? So was that!

@Orcaben1 3 жыл бұрын

mad, thanks for that!

@user-oq2rk7ep8f 3 жыл бұрын

Whoa!

@vintagehomeelectronicrepai1826 3 жыл бұрын

Woah, nice trivia tidbit! Isn't Iron Giant also Vin Diesel's first film as well? I still swear Tim Allen does the voice of the FBI agent.......

@Heyitdave 3 жыл бұрын

I love how she thoroughly enjoys watching the incredible bit.

@patrickhammond8400 3 жыл бұрын

This is an absolutely fabulous breakdown! She obviously has the goods to back up all of her comments and observations. Thanks for sharing the scoop Christine!

@dpellek74 3 жыл бұрын

This lady is awesome and her explanations of these scenes are awesome. Great job grinder

@hopegold883 3 жыл бұрын

A gem

@Skyprince27 3 жыл бұрын

#GirlsRock

@il-2forsale57 3 жыл бұрын

She is really ugly

@nihaalsandim9986 3 жыл бұрын

@@il-2forsale57 u probably look like a toad in real life . Also her looks aren't important her information provided by her is

@MidnightRobotics 3 жыл бұрын

@il-2 for sale lmao, “sisk my legs”??? Shut your dumbass up

@ashleighburton7273 3 жыл бұрын

Oh my gosh, I knew I recognized her! I was Aircrew Life Support for the 333rd FS at SJAFB. She was always so nice...and I remember all my male co workers had a crush on her. 😆

@markmayfield2228 3 жыл бұрын

That is very cool. I often look at these videos to see if I recognize someone in them. But, she made me feel really old. I was in my senior year of HS when TG came out, and joined the Navy in 90.

@tedwojtasik8781 3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, she's hot. Hubba hubba :-)

@jimmylim5015 2 жыл бұрын

Hello fellow veteran, unfortunately I was never stationed on a fighter base-only the usual transport planes C130, C-17, KC10, KC135s

@procactus9109 2 жыл бұрын

Did she have all them face twitches and other things going on with the face ?

@TheHitman5c 2 жыл бұрын

A female fighter pilot? Uh yes please.

@c1moore 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you for the insight, and your service. Love to hear more!!

@webeducation 3 жыл бұрын

"She's able to maneuver this airplane like no commercial jet I've ever seen" - said with almost a straight face - had me rolling.

@erika_itsumi5141 Жыл бұрын

That's not a commercial plane.

@MoviesUnderTheSurface 3 жыл бұрын

6:43 India Golf Niner Niner stands for Iron Giant 1999, as in The Iron Giant, written and directed by the same writer/director as The Incredibles, came out in 1999.

@JebHoge 3 жыл бұрын

I was wondering about that.

@Mcgregor854 2 жыл бұрын

This is so great, I spent 22yrs. in the Air Force as a maintenance officer/engineer on the F-15, F-16, and F-22. I had several back seat rides and spent a lot of time and effort around fighter pilots. "Grinder" is a hero of mine and listening to her in this piece is so cool. BTW, I have two daughters, one of which is a maintenance officer on F-35s.

@grfaudio 3 жыл бұрын

Wow. Such a pleasure to watch this. So knowledgeable and many movies I’ve watched for enjoyment. Hats off to the consultants for the Incredibles.

@TheCJUN 3 жыл бұрын

The music in Top Gun elevates the movie above all the others.

@splytlyckety 3 жыл бұрын

What about the dogfight scenes with no cgi crap

@shepherdlavellen3301 3 жыл бұрын

@@splytlyckety Dunkirk doesn't have CGI either, also, RIOs in Top Gun are pretty much high speed cheerleaders

@patrickorourke41 3 жыл бұрын

anytime I’m driving to San Diego, I have to play “Danger Zone” when I’m near Mirimar😎

@txm100 3 жыл бұрын

@@splytlyckety But with trainer aircraft that are called MiGs 🤣

@splytlyckety 3 жыл бұрын

@@txm100 they are not training aircraft those are f5e tiger

@rogerfournier3284 3 жыл бұрын

I WAS A COOK IN THE U.S. NAVY...BEFORE I JOINED U.S. NAVY. I WAS A NAVIGATOR(IPERP) SAILING SLOOPS. I RESPECT YOUR JET-FIGHTER TRAINING...ALSO VFR CESSNA 172 PILOT! YEAH! I "GET IT!"

@supaoranges1086 2 жыл бұрын

I love the way she carries herself, confident and certain. All the necessary traits of an amazing Aviator.

@airtexaco 3 жыл бұрын

Having a radar warning receiver seems like an awesome idea. Until you become a crew member on a C-130... At which point you start to wonder if you really want to know..

@koori3085 2 жыл бұрын

If you're the crew chief and have some Reynolds wrap and signal flares, it might be worth it to hang out the ramp... Totally get the sentiment though!

@FinalGamerJames 3 жыл бұрын

I absolutely love she just straight-up admitted "yeah Top Gun made me wanna be a fighter pilot" and I just gotta respect that. Love it, very good vid, can't wait for more Technique Critique!

@stanpotter7764 3 жыл бұрын

That would have only been embarrassing had shot not made pilot.

@Newport70 2 жыл бұрын

This was fantastic analysis. I would love to see more!

@SteveGouldinSpain 3 жыл бұрын

My dad was an aircraft engineer during WW2. He said one day a returnng pilot, a Polish fellah, called him over and said to check the air-intake in the undercarriage of his Hurricane as he'd done a spot of low flying. When dad had a look it was full of cabbages!

@dirtypure2023 3 жыл бұрын

lol I love it, but that was certainly a bit of exaggeration right?

@phil6715 3 жыл бұрын

I smell bs

@karelpgbr 3 жыл бұрын

Bruh, great story

@SteveGouldinSpain 3 жыл бұрын

@@dirtypure2023 maybe the guy was pranking my dad, who knows! Funny story though!

@davidh6300 3 жыл бұрын

How apt!

@olliversdad8447 3 жыл бұрын

I too love Too Gun when it came out and I was in 6th grade. However, once I became a naval aviator, I flew F14 and F18. I realized how unreal Top Gun was. But thanks to Hollywood, the navy tricked me into serving a good career as a naval aviator. Now I just fly a big 777 bus. Missed those days sitting in the front seat of my Tomcat.

@frankbizzoco1954 3 жыл бұрын

Jump into DCS World, and get yourself a F-14B! It is my second favorite aircraft behind the F-4. I am very envious you got to fly the Tomcat, it is a beautiful plane. Thanks for your service!

@michag4337 3 жыл бұрын

I feel like most of the military, especially the high skill jobs involve some level of "and that's how hollywood tricked me into joining the military..."

@slimmccoy8863 Жыл бұрын

@@michag4337 A lot of the aircraft maintenance career fields, when I was in, have "glamorous" sounding titles. Who would not want to be a "Tactical Aircraft Maintenance Specialist"? Until you find out that most of your day is spent kicking tires and pumping gas. Nothing but love for you, Crew Chief 😀

@josephgoolsby9221 3 жыл бұрын

Good job I enjoyed your video, and thank you for your service.

@Rob-di6sv 3 жыл бұрын

Great breakdowns always good to see a talented lady.

@erinboes9139 3 жыл бұрын

Aww, I love the big grin on her face while she is watching The Incredibles.

@joesmith6060 3 жыл бұрын

We all know that pilot stuff is the side story in top gun

@BrooksWachtel 3 жыл бұрын

Christine Mau did wonderful commentary. I was one of the co-creators of the History Channel series DogFights and would loved to have had her doing commentary on the series.

@carrion-fairy 2 жыл бұрын

I just discovered that series since it's being uploaded to KZfaq, I love watching them!

@ericpercival102 2 жыл бұрын

I was just going to reference dogfights lol .. no way would i ever question her, but when she said se wouldn't recommend going vertical, i was going to say she must mean now because i have seen every DogFights episode and Japanese pilots used that a lot against the wild cat and even in Korea and Vietnam it was used depending on the aircraft .. excellent series

@seanmelville1675 2 жыл бұрын

We need a revival of DogFights please! Maybe with some Commonwealth and Soviet WWII stuff this time around.

@chrisdalman849 2 жыл бұрын

Love the break downs, and this is one of the better vids. NIce job

@SaturnVII 3 жыл бұрын

Dunkirk's aviation is spot on. In fact that movie at times is so realistic that it becomes too much and can be a bit drab. But I did like it.

@imafraidjumitebeinagang 3 жыл бұрын

We all know that pilot stuff is the side story in top gun

@mushin111 3 жыл бұрын

True, it's a beautiful love story at heart. A tale of forbidden love between our heroes Mav and Goose.

@Mooza1 3 жыл бұрын

I thought it was the love story between Mav and Iceman.

@chimpinaneckbrace 3 жыл бұрын

The plot is really about shirtless beach vollyball.

@erikhjortsater5461 3 жыл бұрын

@@chimpinaneckbrace motorcycles

@michaelrice500 3 жыл бұрын

I always thought it was a beach volleyball movie.

@AllenVanDerLaan 3 жыл бұрын

I am a huge proponent of women in the military, anyone against the practice is a chauvinist. No TDLN will be disclosed: My squad had our butts pulled out of a jam by a female A10 driver and wing out of Bagram one afternoon. The driver was as cool as a cucumber while she made her runs and went into the fight without hesitation. They also stuck around to make sure that we were clear and underway before they RTB. Were it not for her, and her wing's actions that day we most likely would not have made it out in one piece. Massive props. I recently found out that this same driver now flies F-35's.

@Steve211Ucdhihifvshi 3 жыл бұрын

Thats so awesome a female a10 pilot jeeesus take my money

@salvatoretessio4932 3 жыл бұрын

You must be talking about combat roles and not the military as a whole. If they can do the job, that is GREAT, but undoubtedly the military will make it so that standards will be lowered and the military will soften the environment and that is unacceptable. If not, then AWESOME. Badass Fighter pilots, EOD techs, certain combat arms MOS's are one thing, but special operations are not just bravery and skill but another thing - because that pushing past your limits in such physical and mental struggle is also teamwork strengthened and fueled by brotherhood and most women don't want that despite liberals pushing for it.

@liammay7756 3 жыл бұрын

@@salvatoretessio4932 they put them where they excell, just like everyone else. Don't be an armchair douchebag.

@TacComControl 3 жыл бұрын

Chauvanists: "YOU CAN'T HAVE WOMEN FLYING PLANES IN THE MILITARY!!!" That driver: "Haha warthog go brrr"

@salvatoretessio4932 3 жыл бұрын

@@TacComControl Nice to know you have respect for military servicemen who risk their lives driving across IED infested roads 😂. A lot of young kids join and go into the most intense environments. Yes immaturity and using humor is definitely visible for some people, but if that's where your issue is rather than seeing the success of our military... I dont know, bud 🤷‍♂️😂🤣 No one is saying no woman should ever be in a combat or in an aviator's role because it is beyond obvious some have, its just that the standards are made to keep up with the standards of war and should be the same for everyone who wants to perform that same job. Unfortunately, the military has surprised us and shown how willing it is to opposing equal opportunity in favor of equal outcome.

@History45096 3 жыл бұрын

This was the best one of these I have ever seen.

@BlountForce 3 жыл бұрын

This was very enjoyable to watch

@theKOmorita 3 жыл бұрын

6:40 "Stuff like this doesn't fly" grounded by the Grinder! love it

@manishbhat8570 3 жыл бұрын

After watching all the other clips of WW2 era aircraft, you gotta appreciate how much Dunkirk got right.

@michaeldorosh5047 3 жыл бұрын

Except for the Fantasy Island ending where the Spitfire without fuel shoots down a German plane.

@steveday6671 3 жыл бұрын

but ofc it's not a patch on the 1969 Battle of Britain :) for thrills or realistic feel :)

@iforgot87872 3 жыл бұрын

Steve Day I actually found battle of britain super boring and Dunkirk super thrilling tbh. But it was really cool how many real planes they used in BoB

@Kaiserland111 3 жыл бұрын

Loved this episode. This lady is GOLD!

@LexiK1820 2 жыл бұрын

I loved this. Please do it again!

@stillnocouch 3 жыл бұрын

She’s awesome at explaining stuff ! Well done !

@no_El_Collo 3 жыл бұрын

Hah! You go Grinder! I flew with her back in the day. I know someone famous!!

@matthewwhittington7722 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much! Such great info!

@hww2022 2 жыл бұрын

This is amazing insight. These are brilliant videos

@westnilesnipes 3 жыл бұрын

She has a pretty dope name, “Grinder”.

@cassiespencer6134 3 жыл бұрын

One is given their callsign by others and it's typically a play on ones name or a personality trait for example. It can also be as a result of having dome something notable/memorable, be it good or not so good. Therefore, knowing the story behind ones callsign is often amusing.

@Lightally16 3 жыл бұрын

More often than not, callsigns are due to some embarrassing action. 'Free Willy' might be self explanatory, but 'Lamb' might not be so straightforward. The rules I've heard is that your fellow pilots assign you the name, and you probably won't like it.

@9999AWC 3 жыл бұрын

@@cassiespencer6134 When I was in the Royal Canadian Air Cadets (similar to the Civil Air Patrol), one of my squadron mates who got his glider license on a scholarship course got the "callsign" Two Bags, because he puked twice on his first glider flight on the course XD

@davidbentley6399 3 жыл бұрын

Maybe she likes Cannibal Corpse!?!?

@fnglert 3 жыл бұрын

Became a lot less dope when Grindr came out.

@shawng7902 3 жыл бұрын

When " The Incredibles" is the most accurate film on the list lmao.

@Anthro006 3 жыл бұрын

Dang! Outstanding breakdowns and assessments! I would sign up for this pilot's classes in a heartbeat!!!

@MarkAnderson-vg5vq 2 жыл бұрын

Very informative, excellent breakdown .

@sohilronagh286 3 жыл бұрын

Loved this episode Wired! Christine "Grinder" Mau is amazing (and super cool!) her explanations of all the aeronautics manoeuvres and in the most professional and tactful way crushing all the movie directors and the writers’ script errors. I could sit and listen to Grinder explaining all such things the whole day! I don't know if she has kids yet, but she would make the coolest mom ever!

@aidandoss5561 2 жыл бұрын

she does have kids, i’m actually dating her daughter lol, and i can confirm that she’s one of the coolest moms out there

@janzojanzo9059 Жыл бұрын

@@aidandoss5561 woah. Pictures or it did not happen. 😁😆

@FingeringThings 3 жыл бұрын

I love this series so much

@anthonysandefur2667 2 жыл бұрын

My foster father flew F-16's when the nick name Long Dart was coined. Before he became my foster father he was my J.R.O.T.C. instructor. Every first year class had to watch Top Gun, it was, in his opinion, the most realistic representation of fighter aircraft in the movies. As she mentions, you never take your mask off, but most movies DO tend to disregard this. I love all of the critiques she gives on every movie. Reminds me of what he did in class to debunk how the movies show flight.

@billmerryman5270 2 жыл бұрын

In this video: Calm, confident and friendly. Gives us her insight on movies In real life: Calm, confident and deadly. Controls one of the most complicated and effective weapons on earth and goes by the name "Grinder". Thank you for your service, Ma'am!

@thetruthseeker6668 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you ma'am.. my respect.... the tone alone of your voice tells the experience of an expert...

@RO-fz9uq 3 жыл бұрын

Wow this was amazing. Well done to her, so knowledgeable. I love these episodes!!!

@victorduffany7723 3 жыл бұрын

I really enjoyed that. Loved learning some stuff I never knew.

@robtech341 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for your service! Well done!

@divereric 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you ma’am. I was a plane captain (not an actual captain) for F/A-18A fighter jets. It’s always nice to continue to gain knowledge in the military aviation field.

@williamowings6857 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks... it was genuinely intresting to me.

@cinedelasestrellas 2 жыл бұрын

“Coffin corner” is something you’d think more of in a plane like a U2 or an SR-71 where you’d be at extreme altitudes. If you make a plot of an airplane’s stall speed against its critical Mach number (speed above which the plane may break up under aerodynamic stress, sort of like Vne), the stall speed will increase while critical Mach will decrease such that at a certain altitude, they will intersect. This is the called the coffin corner because it very dangerous to operate your plane there, where flying a little faster will break your plane apart, and a little slower will cause a stall, which could cause your plane’s nose to drop or even enter a spin where, because you are so close to critical Mach speed, could also break up your plane.

@redlinedeath 2 жыл бұрын

This is why I started going through the comments, I had a very basic understanding of coffin corner. I thought I had read something about this during the Pearlan II 76,000ft record flights, but going back now, I can't find it. Very interesting though!

@GlennC789 2 жыл бұрын

That's what I thought they were referring to as well. I've heard U2 and SR-71 pilots talk about how at those extreme altitudes the planes are almost impossible to fly, and it is possible to find a situation where there simply isn't enough air to keep them aerodynamically stable. I'm not sure about the part where the plane will break down under aerodynamic stress, because the higher you go, and the thinner the air, the less stress the airframe would be subjected to.

@itisthesusie1754 Жыл бұрын

I said it first! I did! I did! :)

@rrrfrdd4497 3 жыл бұрын

Just found out that The Incredibles is even more incredible.

@sjllee2588 3 жыл бұрын

Wow. Just wow. Incredibly nice video explanation.

@guimontag451 3 жыл бұрын

Great video, to the point !!! I just loved it !!! Thank you again

@mattfiretrainer3412 3 жыл бұрын

Excellent video. Clearly explained by a subject matter expert

@curiousman1672 3 жыл бұрын

Really fun video. So many of us out there can't imagine doing what you've done. Greatest and most sincere thanks for your service. MSJ

@chivalryalive 2 жыл бұрын

Many, many thanks! --It's because of people like you that I, and my family, sleep well each night... Because we know that YOU are here to protect us! 🙂 Thank you, again.

@josepirl1 3 жыл бұрын

For the fighter lady: In commercial or subsonic aircraft "coffin corner" references an altitude where either increasing or decreasing your airspeed, you'll stall, so you must be always below that altitude.

@markclawrie007 3 жыл бұрын

This is an awesome video, but I was surprised she hadn't heard of that

@fabrikator-generalakhilley6896 3 жыл бұрын

@@markclawrie007 Prop-planes and Jets(Especially Military) are basically different-planets at this point so it isn't that surprising. It's almost like comparing fixed- to rotary-wing aviation.

@condor2378 3 жыл бұрын

@@fabrikator-generalakhilley6896 physics doesn't care what you're flying. Every fixed wing aircraft will have coffin corner limits.

@gibbcharron3469 3 жыл бұрын

@@condor2378 Da, but that doesn't mean the lingo's the same.

@condor2378 3 жыл бұрын

@@gibbcharron3469 but it is.

@buddydog1956 3 жыл бұрын

thoroughly enjoyed your take / analysis on these Hollywood clips....thanks~

@migcap7356 3 жыл бұрын

“Grinder” Great breakdown o these movies, you killed me w/ "I think I was in 4th grade..." I was an 3rd yr AFROTC in college when TopGun came out.... I agree, being an Eagle Driver was some of best times of my life... RTB killed me because I probably would have lost my wings because I might/would have shot that MIG after shooting down my element, or clean shot before reaching Seoul. Command in that movie was nonsensical.. As a former Ego Driver, you don't shoot down my wingman and LIVE!!! p.s. I enjoyed watching F-15's Tokyo drift around buildings🤣🤣🤣

@Peter_Cordes 3 жыл бұрын

kzfaq.info/get/bejne/gddlZLucqKqmkmw.html - Mover Ruins Movies covered Return to Base. (He's a former F-16 / F-18 driver). He said the same thing: "dude's blowing up your city: shoot him." And yeah, earlier than that he was saying the guy's obviously hostile, they should be shooting him *before* he gets to a major city. KZfaq comments there said something about the filmmakers maybe trying to make a political point about the US being in control of command decisions for the South Korean military. So apparently command being idiots and not authorizing shootdown of the hostile was something the movie was doing on purpose. But exaggerating to the point of nonsense it seemed.

@hoonaynay 3 жыл бұрын

this may have been my favorite one of the break down series

@jackielinde7568 2 жыл бұрын

Christine Mau: "I used to fly strike eagles." Me: How much time did you spend at Luke?

@daleyamamoto7625 3 жыл бұрын

Very informative video. i also didn't know about a lot of these other movies that fighter planes in them.

@gotindrachenhart 3 жыл бұрын

Best review piece yet Wired! I'd love to see Grinder do an interview with the DCS squad Grim Reapers!

@allen9975 3 жыл бұрын

She explain everything perfectly

@rdrun51660 2 жыл бұрын

Awesome video, thanks and much respect!!

@carloc352 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you ma’am for the explanations... and for resisting bursting into laughter while watching those movies 😁

@christopherbarthlow4369 3 жыл бұрын

I used to live near Camp David and saw a Piper Cub being intercepted by a fighter jet. It was the coolest thing I’ve ever seen.

@Applecider-Poetry 3 жыл бұрын

kill kill kill

@afpwebworks 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you for this video!! I think the technology shown in movies is better these days than in years gone by, but it's still fantastic to get authoritative opinions about how close to real the movie-makers have got it. I guess its not easy to have script-writers and designers get together with pilots to iron out these sorts of inaccuracies, but it certainly makes a difference to me. And I assume lots of others too. i smirked a few times at how polite you were at some of the clips, saying "...not realistic." when someone else, who is not as polite as you would say "That's total BS!" Thank you again - highly entertaining video, and educational as well.

@TheKiman2 3 жыл бұрын

Man, I wish they added the X-Wing Fighter Death Star attack at the end!

@sylvesterwilliams9531 3 жыл бұрын

I love this woman. Very intelligent and experienced

@reedr7142 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you for crushing Hollywood's disregard for reality via its overuse of drama in these films! Love how the animated film gets the most props.

@bmay8818 3 жыл бұрын

I was at a scenic turnout in Death Valley when a fighter flew through the canyon. I can totally understand the kids in that clip covering their ears; that thing was LOUD! On another trip through DV, a fighter flew overhead so close that I could see the pilot, and they did the wing wave thing at me!

@knightlife98 3 жыл бұрын

Is Death Valley the same place as "Star Wars Canyon?"

@bmay8818 3 жыл бұрын

@@knightlife98 I don't think so, but maybe?

@ttaibe 3 жыл бұрын

awesome!

@spamfilter32 3 жыл бұрын

@@ttaibe Death Valley is the hottest place on earth (that isn't a lava flow)

@andyfletcher3561 2 жыл бұрын

@@knightlife98 It's where Twenty Nine Palms Marine Corps Air Ground Combat Center is located.

@programr101 2 жыл бұрын

i enjoyed her insight on these clips!

@jamescashen4699 3 жыл бұрын

Well done and you're entertaining to watch and listen too, thank you Christine

@lukeuseforce 3 жыл бұрын

Oh ffs. You’ve missed the most iconic flight scene ever. Top gun buzzing the tower

@nickllama5296 3 жыл бұрын

I especially like how in Return to Base, every time they are turning, they've got their afterburners on. Afterburner = more thrust = larger turn radius. So literally the opposite of what you'd want to be doing in a turn. But hey, LOOKATTHECOOLFLAMES!!!

@andyfletcher3561 2 жыл бұрын

Never be as cool as an SR-71 taking off at dusk or dawn though. I've seen that more times than any man has a right to, and it never gets old.

@rabbitsfoot8 Жыл бұрын

fascinating breakdown of behind enemy lines...ty

@WalrusRiderCycling 2 жыл бұрын

Great breakdown

@DwarfElvishDiplomacy 3 жыл бұрын

She is kind of forgetting that Aerial Warfare used to be much different in WW2 , Hammerhead manouvers where much more effective as most combatants where much more inexperienced, the Bf109 and Spitfires where very different planes and engagement heights, speed and distances where totally incomparible to modern dogfights

@Kimjongil-pu6rk 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for explaining this, not fighter pilot.

@AcceptYourDeath 3 жыл бұрын

@@Kimjongil-pu6rk No he has a point, many WW2 aces were known to prefer stall fights. One in particular was a japanese zero pilot which would get pretty much all his kills by stalling out US fighters and going for a hammerhead. Untill one day a young pilot which was given a improved aircraft as they usally had simply catched him. It is certainly a do or die maneuver, but indeed also many nations had hopefully undertrained inexperienced pilots later in the war falling for such things.

@9999AWC 3 жыл бұрын

@@Kimjongil-pu6rk By the end of the war, the Luftwaffe and Japan has barely any experienced pilots left, with new pilots being sent to the front lines with barely 40 hours of flight time under their belt (for comparison, I got my PPL at 72h in 3 months, and just got my CPL at 268h 3 years later).

@jeffbailey9764 3 жыл бұрын

Not surprising modern day fighter pilots aren't taught tactics, techniques and procedures for fighting against 60+ year old acft.

@EdSmith7464 3 жыл бұрын

3:53 Thank you! In almost every single modern film, we see 1940s pilots simply opting out to wear their masks attached. Maybe it's a creative liberty to show the actor's face, I don't know. But it is terribly unrealistic.

@pilot4sale 3 жыл бұрын

Sure in unpressurized cabins (circa ww2) although I disagree with her blanket statement. We put our masks down all the time and can still communicate (pressurized cockpit)

@kratosmiller2503 3 жыл бұрын

Yep so unrealistic, I guess that why they are called Movies

@shepherdlavellen3301 3 жыл бұрын

@@pilot4sale what do you fly?

@pilot4sale 3 жыл бұрын

@@shepherdlavellen3301 T6 instructor. About as close as you can get to a ww2 fighter design with a jet engine and pressurized cockpit

@beaubenraw 3 жыл бұрын

@@pilot4sale I reckon the noise in a wartime Spitfire with a huge V-12 sitting in front of you with essentially straight pipes coming off each header might be slightly louder than a turbine engine.

@fro16883 2 жыл бұрын

Miss Grinder, you where awesome. thank you for agreeing to be filmed for this ^_^

@pahouseholder 3 жыл бұрын

Grinder, amazing.

@SuryaPrakash-ld9cb 3 жыл бұрын

She taught me so much physics that I can't digest easily. awesome, great and informative

@hylianchriss 3 жыл бұрын

Wait. With this video she taught you so much about physics that you can't even digest it? What'd she teach you?! That fighter jets can't turn easily? That there is an altitude ceiling? That Earth's gravity has a strong effect on planes flying straight up? That close to the ground at super sonic speeds the "time to die" can be super short? It was a very interesting and fascinating breakdown video, but I didn't see a lot of advanced physics in it. 😂

@SuryaPrakash-ld9cb 3 жыл бұрын

@@hylianchriss everyone may not be as good as you lol

@AV4Life 3 жыл бұрын

hylianchriss calm down there, hotshot.

@Peter_Cordes 3 жыл бұрын

@@hylianchriss - Pointing out the *consequences* of simple physics in a given situation can be very helpful to novices in really understanding it, and how what they learned in school can apply to real life. A lot of people have trouble seeing how to describe real situations with equations they learned in school, despite that being the one thing that makes physics and math truly useful :P