Wiring A Recording Studio - Mic Lines, Tie Lines & Loops

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4 жыл бұрын

I still get a lot of questions about how all the gear and rooms are connected at the studio. In this video I'll walk you through how each of the rooms are wired and how I get sound between the rooms for full band recording and overdubs.
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@jamiemcparland 4 жыл бұрын

Loving this video series! Thanks so much!

@Ultimatestudiosinc 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you Jamie!!

@Rb2Productions1 2 жыл бұрын

Fantastic help Thankyou!

@Ultimatestudiosinc 2 жыл бұрын

Glad it helped!

@TheSoundConnoisseur 2 жыл бұрын

GREAT VIDEO BRO

@kittygapnbgindy8105 4 жыл бұрын

Einfach traumhaft 🖤🖤 💯

@ahpook6200 3 жыл бұрын

Great video. I'm wondering how you're routing the loop and speaker lines between rooms?

@DreidMusicalX 3 жыл бұрын

If you don't mind me asking. What would you say the longest speaker cable distance could be from the amp head to a cabinet before it would give the head problems?

@everythingiscircles 3 жыл бұрын

This is super helpful! Question about your loop lines: Is Speaker Line 1, for example, a single line with connections in the Control, Live, ISO, and Amp rooms? If so, how are those wired? And your mono/stereo loops are the same way? Thanks!!

@johnmcgaraghan 2 жыл бұрын

Very cool video, thanks for all the great info! Can I ask what kind of cabling you have in the walls? I know Mogami sells bulk snake cable in a variety of configurations, are there other good options for bulk, high quality cabling for those long runs?

@Studiossoundgarage 4 жыл бұрын

You are amazing

@Ultimatestudiosinc 4 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

@philsalter4363 4 жыл бұрын

Quick question, the box in the control room with tie lines and 2 xlr ins, what's the brand of it? Looks super useful

@john4157 4 жыл бұрын

Good Video

@Ultimatestudiosinc 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

@djabthrash 4 жыл бұрын

Very cool ! Dumb question though : how do you run the cables from one room to the next ? Do you have panels attached to the walls that you remove and in which you insert your cables ? I'd love to know how it's done (like how you would install a new line if you had too).

@Ultimatestudiosinc 4 жыл бұрын

Not a dumb question at all!! In the beginning of the video when I'm sitting in front of the patchbay you can see the corner traps (with vertical wood slats) behind me. All of the cables from the patchbay run along the floor behind that trap and into a 4" pvc pipe that connects to the ISO booth. Behind the Wood patch panel in the ISO booth there is where the connection from Control to ISO is. There is also another 4" PVC pipe that connects to the Live Room. If you go to 8:18 (it's a little blurry) you can see a black panel that runs from the Live Room patch panel to the PVC pipe that connects to the ISO. That is how the cables get from Live Room patch to Control Room patchbay. The wood patch panel in the ISO is lined with 1" foam on the back and the rest of the cavity that is not full of cables is pack with foam as well. This is to mitigate any bleed coming through the PVC as much as possible. And it's really not very much at all. There is only one 8 pair snake that runs from the Control Room patchbay to the back ISO. It goes through the same PVC pipe from Control to ISO but it runs up and around the ISO/Live Room door and behind the corner traps in the ISO. It then goes through the wall and along the baseboard of the Live Room all the way to the back wall where is goes behind the corner trap and into a 2" whole that connects to the back ISO. In reality it's not really that hard to add more cabling as needed. It's just time consuming to pull out the Control Room corner traps, pull off the ISO panel and Live Room baseboard panel and then snake (pun intended) the cable through the walls. Does that answer your question?

@djabthrash 4 жыл бұрын

@@Ultimatestudiosinc Awesome ! Thanks for the info !

@clayjohnston4219 3 жыл бұрын

Great info! Thanks. My question is; what type of cable did you pull through the 4" pvc? Microphone cable is 18 ga. Balanced, shielded? 1 cable per device? So 24 mic cables in the conduit, along with maybe 4 heavy ga unshielded speaker wires? What gauge is loop and tie lines? I see why 4" pvc would be useful, you probably have enough space for more cabling as future needs arise? Thanks again for the great info!

@tylerkaleolott 2 жыл бұрын

I was wondering if there is a difference between the speaker line jack and the mono loop line jack? Are both just TS jacks or is there something special about the speaker line jack?

@DrMackSplackem 10 ай бұрын

Since most 1/4" jacks I'm aware of will handle high current perfectly fine, the only thing I can think of that might be different would be ground isolation from the rack panel chassis, which might be useful if wired with a ground lift switch. However, it looks like all of those particular jacks are of this type (though I'm not 100% certain).

@drumgod666 4 жыл бұрын

Couple of questions. #1, how do you use +48v through a Patchbay? #2, how are the tie and loop lines wired point to point?

@tylerkaleolott 2 жыл бұрын

True. I’ve always heard that sending phantom through anything but a xlr patchbay is asking for trouble.

@JAVIERLLAMAS10 4 жыл бұрын

About the speaker lines that you mention, doesn't those introduce more noise running long cables? If those are the ones connecting the heads with the cabs i asume those are not balanced right? Or you use DI boxes in the middle?

@Ultimatestudiosinc 4 жыл бұрын

Hey Javier! Correct they are unbalanced. It's not a particularly long cable run. Less than 20 feet. Maybe up to 25 with the cables to get to and from the head and cab. I have not noticed any additional noise with this installation. We ran a pretty thick gauge speaker wire through wall too. The back ISO has a really short cable run. Less than 3 feet.

@BobK115 4 жыл бұрын

I'm curious how you created your patch panels. I've always been nervous to try soldering my own lines cause I'm thinking it would degrade quality. What are your thoughts? I'm in the process of a studio build and I was just thinking about running snakes but that can get expensive quick.

@Ultimatestudiosinc 4 жыл бұрын

I HIGHLY recommend learning to solder. We've made all our own patch panels and snakes for the entire setup. It has not only saved a ton of money but allowed us to buy good quality stuff. It would have been ridiculously expensive if we would have bought pre-made snakes. In the beginning I couldn't solder work a crap. Ernesto and my buddy Scott came over and did most of the crucial stuff. But I forced myself to do it and now it's a piece of cake.

@schance1666 4 жыл бұрын

What's the ethernet/headphone system you're using? Thanks for the vid!

@Ultimatestudiosinc 4 жыл бұрын

I have the Behringer Powerplay system. Honestly not too bad for the price. Not the highest fidelity but it has been very reliable.

@zakaroonetwork777 Жыл бұрын

How could one feed the base guitar playback and or live split to the drummers Butt-kicker throne?

@purecountry70 4 жыл бұрын

would it be fair to say that the Speaker Lines go from the Amps to the Console

@tylerkaleolott 2 жыл бұрын

I thought it meant from amp heads to speaker cabs. But I could be wrong.

@purecountry70 4 жыл бұрын

I don't mean to sound dum but what is a Tie Line and a Loop Line

@Gretsch0997 3 жыл бұрын

Hi Charley, Greetings from Calgary Canada: Im a 50 year Old Sound mixer.. and I have no idea what a "Tie-Line" is. Should I know this? Can you explain? Great videos....Thanks in advance.

@Ultimatestudiosinc 3 жыл бұрын

Hay Brian! The "tie-line" is simply a connection that ties the rooms together and makes it possible to send sounds to any room. There may be another name but that's what the engineers that taught me about them called it.

@Gretsch0997 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks Charley, I just watched the live broadcast, it was very good!!! Down to earth :) Brian Boyd

@MonteArnstam Жыл бұрын

Did you wire this all up yourself?

@Ultimatestudiosinc Жыл бұрын

Yep. Last year the control room went through a huge update and pretty much everything was re-wired....by me. The setup has evolved a lot since this video. Here's a more current video of the control room if you're interested: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/Y5h0hZaYl728moU.html Thanks for watching!

@montearnstam6827 Жыл бұрын

@@Ultimatestudiosinc lotta cables! I can totally relate. And it’s ALWAYS a work in progress right? That’s part of the fun I guess 😝🤷‍♂️