Umbreon really doesn't have the damage to play top lane as an all rounder role. Trevenant Blastoise and Goodra are the ones that fit that bill better. Umbreon fills more of a defender healer dual role

@@toallcameone3325 as a Zoroark main, my instincts SPEAK Umbreon is a better all rounder than defender

@@toallcameone3325 well I mean, Generally? Speedsters are the assassins (massive burst damage, usually negligible healing), attackers are the main sustained damage usually long ranged archers or mages, all-roundera are the frontline brawlers with decent sustain and disable or stun (which umbreon does), Defenders are just really chonky disablers but usually only valuable in teamfights (fighting more than 1 or fighting with more than 1), and support is just straight up S tier on your team but annoying as f on the other team

Greedent feels the least like a defender to me, more like a speedster or support?

@@Cle-o Greedent in my opinion is like the anti-speedster, even though it barely does any concern-worthy damage, it is still the greatest counter to a speedster if used right in a team fight

Slowbro's unite move alone already makes it such a good mon, if you do it right you can insta kill the biggest threat

Trevenant is the best solo carry defender, but blastoise and umbreon are just better defenders overall with trevenant not far behind.

Trev is better as a solo queue player for sure.

my umbreon : i heal my self, go away team mates

Still need damage nerf

No, umbreon's unite can't steal ray's shield

I can understand why you would hate the other 4 but.. What did Sylveon do???

@@KawaiiMimi778 He was the first one, he started all of this

@@splatty0674 thats really not correct at all...bruh, yes Sylveon was really OP on release but thats because back then there weren't really that many Pokémon anyway. She got nerfed two days later right away and was pretty average for over a Year after that, till she recieved a buff to the build that was underperforming (Mystical Fire&Draining Kiss) which made her above average. And now more than a Year later she recieved some actually significant buffs to her UNITE move and a Sp. Att increase which makes her a pretty good choice overall, besides the fact that i still think that Mystical Fire needs a small damage buff, you cant blame the whole Eevee thing on Sylveon...she barely got her time to shine while the rest have been running rampant even tho they havent been in the Game as long as Sylveon.

Been saying that for years to constant ridicule. Glad to have you on my team brother. Umbreon is the worst in main game, moveset is literally just stall, Unite arguably tied with glaceon.

​@@KawaiiMimi778Unfortunately Sylv just gets caught up in the Eevee hate. Probably the best design wise and not too powerful.

Me when my teammates don't go to objectives- "I don't need you!" As the notice that I stole the objective from the entire enemy team comes across the screen. I'll admit though, it's getting ridiculous. Machamp needs a buff to where it can launch AFK and trolling allies as projectiles.

Blame the game not the player. That's kind of the only skillful thing besides proficiency with moves that you can do in this game tbh. It's not too advanced.

Fluffy Tail exists but the other battle items are so much better

All I see sense the season started is Jack the obj plays I really hate those kind of plays literally saw a play where my team went from. Touching Rayquaza to losing it killing the whole team of the jacked obj murdering the enemy team and counter dunking with 70 points difference because me and my randoms were that fed up with it 0_0

Sees the obj. 5 seconds of touch they can jack jack meanwhile. Every single god dam one of them. Later and about 5 counter dunks and a 5 nuked off score shields