Same here, but the challenge will be to compensate for the lack of armour. I'll start testing T9 and 10 this week, reviews should be ready next week

@@FunandGameswithTerry good

Same, PEF is amazing at mid-tier. Having tested 7 and 8, I'm quite curious to see how these work in top tiers.

I feel like they are already strong enough on their own already, especially Odin, buffing would make her into a pay-to-win ship

Yeah, especially in mid-tier, where battles are often all-out brawls anyway, these ships really shine

@@FunandGameswithTerryI'm on the EU server, and its not as static as the asian one (I think). The VII is fun and does pretty well. Done 8ish games and is at 60k dmg/match. Got up against a Genisenau in 1v1 and it just melted.

I know this is out of context But concealment mod on Italian BBs is hella strong. Since the BBs themselves aren't the most survivable, having the ability to disengage with smoke and go dark with concealment makes them rather strong

I'm not sold on the concealment build for the BCs (yet). I think T9 and 10 will define that for me, T8 is ... special. My main gripe with concealment is that it's only really useful until I start blazing away, and once I do, I find it rather hard to stop for long enough to go dark again. I think another aspect I may need to change is to play them as mid-range brawlers, rather than close up. That may be the point behind defaulting the 150s to HE as well. The armour (at least so far) is really cruiser-level, and they melt away like nobody's business. Problem is, at 7km it'll be hard to get the seamines on target... I'm seeing more and more mentions of BB concealment builds. RN BBs, RM BBs - I'll have to start testing these a bit more, for an aggressive player like myself, "disengage" is usually not in my dictionary :)

@@FunandGameswithTerry well, if you turn away at the right time, then it will save your ship with help of concealment. I play my Italian BBs that way. Andrea goes down to 7.5 i believe

@@FunandGameswithTerry in my POV, knowing when to disengage is definently an absolute nessecity when it comes to these ships When setting up a brawl, you dont just need to plan what to do before the brawl but after it as well, you gotta make sure youve got an exit route after you have done away with an enemy, killing off that enemy battleship is gonna be pointless when you get killed by their teammates shortly after In the main line, you can get away with not disengaging (to some extent) because they have the armour but definently not the BCs, they cannot afford to take a hit in the same way so knowing when to get out is very important Concealment is not just for disengaging but it can also be used agressively, with good stealth, speed, and smart usage of islands, you can rapidly close the distance with an enemy without them knowing but of course you need trigger patience for that, a concealment build is kinda pointless if you immediately fire the very second something steps within your maximum range

I'll have the full review coming up, but it's an interesting ship to play for sure. T7 is still very much doable, but against skilled opponents, you'll notice the lack of armour. Takes a shift in mindset - yes, you're playing a German "BB", but you must not tank :)

Italian destroyers are next

@@TheUltimateBastich I can see that happening. But the British BC's are coming too although not sure. They are still in Early Access in PC so it's a matter of time before they get to Blitz as well. And they might be hell to play lol with literally less armor than their BB counterparts

She's the sister of the Prinz Eitel, after all. If you're facing someone who knows how to utilise the 150mm AP...

Same tbh. I'd get it for the resources if I had the time to grind, but since I'm probably 60/40 between press & personal, there's not really a point for me.

It's "campground zero" over there. Yet, that's where my press account is, so I'll have to test top tiers. We shall see how that goes.

@@FunandGameswithTerry agreed 👍 also PPL tend to kill PPL with the press tag *cough* *cough*

That should be fun

Oh, don't let the Americans hear that... they're "fast battleships" XD The USN BB line are long-range ships, mostly. Not overly precise, but can hit you from the other side of the map. The German battlecruisers shine in secondary range, and trade more damage potential for weaker armour, compared to the German BB line. So two pretty different playstyles.

@FunandGameswithTerry it's our little secret. They're "fast battleships".

I haven't done in-detail testing, but from my gut feeling so far, pretty comparable. Both lines are about speed and firepower over armour. You definitely can't tank in the BCs as you would in the German BBs.

@@FunandGameswithTerry Alright sir thank you

@@elexanderbauson Armor seems pretty good, but they do have a lower hp pool.

Air is definitely a weak point for those ships, together with the deceptively thin armour. They take huge amounts of AP damage, but it's a balancing factor towards the amount of firepower they have.

Both good ships. I've posted a comparison on the channel community page.

Full review coming up on Saturday, but this one may be a difficult one. It's an extremely situational ship, plays like a T8 Gneisenau with a weird gun layout and poor manoeuvrability.

Yeah, I need to do an update on that one, good idea. Also great point about the supercruisers, definitely a familiar feel from when I tested them.

I'll be starting to test T9 and 10 this week, on Asia, so yeah, we'll see how that goes :)

@@FunandGameswithTerry Thanks Terry!

Zieten review coming up on Saturday.

@@FunandGameswithTerry tyvm

Ah, that would be the Zieten. Coming up on Saturday.

They should be released soon

PEF with secondary overload... that thing is powerful enough as it is XD I haven't tested the T10 yet, but the armour in T8, oooh boy...

Das ist mein Presse-Konto, wird von Wargaming zur Verfügung gestellt für mich als Community Contributor. Da habe ich oft Schiffe, die noch nicht öffentlich sind, zum Testen und für Video-Produktion

You mean for PC? This link, probably, but don't have any personal experience with it worldofwarships.com/en/content/contributors-program/

No for android and iOS i mean Tablet and Smartphone

@@FunandGameswithTerry can you do a Tutorial about IT an what you get If you did this

wowsblitz.com/en/contributor-program/ is the form for Blitz. Can't really say much else, since it's up to WG

Summary of accounts kzfaq.info/get/bejne/itqSlc-mkp6unX0.html

Bots are actually restricted to only the initial USN and IJN lines that were there when the game came out

@@FunandGameswithTerry oh man you are right. Never made that connection until now. Well that’s a bummer. Oh well.

@@FunandGameswithTerry In the words of some old TV show, “Thank the Gods!” (Xena?)

That's something I think people will realize soon - the BCs looks deceptively "ok armoured" on paper, but the actual thickness stats mean that they'll take massive AP damage. That, and I think (not confirmed) that they don't get the "turtleback" mechanic Gneisenau and everything above gets. Heinrich coming up on Thursday. They take skill to use successfully.

From my testing so far, I'll have to agree that they're a niche, but I think that's good. In the end, we want things that are balanced, and the damage potential of T9 and 10, at least on paper, is off the charts.

Can it do anything beyond tier 6 that another ship cannot already do well? I guess I'm looking for their role. Seems more a random battles fun boat for a change of feel. I can't see myself asking someone to play this competitive to counter an enemy boat and give up one of the 3 battleship slots. I could be wrong though.