A jury found Jennifer Crumbley guilty on all four counts of involuntary manslaughter in connection to the Oxford High School shooting. Watch our full special report.
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@charlesknowlton71984 ай бұрын
I'm guessing her husband isn't feeling very good about his trial now.
@Watchingvids014 ай бұрын
Better take a plea deal
@nzkiwiange4 ай бұрын
I'd say plea deals are off the table now. They would only do that if he was willing to squeal on his wife.
@turnthepage8674 ай бұрын
He just learned what not to do...
@charrielyn12314 ай бұрын
🤣 …that’s what I was thinking!!!
@jeremybeall22194 ай бұрын
Her husband is screwed. It would be unfair to give him less than 60 years. It's over for that guy.
@OWEN-CASH4 ай бұрын
Of course she's guilty. That's why she ran and hid from the police. If Americans want the right to bear arms, they have the responsibility to keep those arms safe from public harm. Hopefully this verdict will set a precedent for being held accountable when they don't.
@kimberlynance27114 ай бұрын
100% correct!!
@notpub4 ай бұрын
This sounds like sacrimonious 20/20 hindsight. It is grossly unjust.
@sajahf4 ай бұрын
@@notpub LOL the whole crux of the case was foreseeability and neglecting known risks. Only the very confused or those who don't know much about the case could imagine it was about hindsight rationalisation
@BlueberryBumblebees4 ай бұрын
@@notpubshe was repeatedly shown evidence that her son wanted to use his guns against people. She ignored it. People died. It’s so cut and dry, you’d have to be brain dead or brainwashed to believe otherwise. Furthermore, parents are entirely responsible for ensuring their child is raised properly. Their gross negligence lead to the death of four children.
@cristineconnell78034 ай бұрын
It is about time parent's are held to some account for their destructive work products! He could have used numerous dangerous tools!
@hilaryeales12684 ай бұрын
Once she said she wouldn't do anything different, her goose was cooked......vile woman
@JulieC8844 ай бұрын
I agree! So stubborn and rude!
@PhoenixDad144 ай бұрын
Can someone tell me exactly where she said that? Trust me, I don’t disbelieve it, but I have been watching this case from the beginning and have listened to all her testimony, and I never spotted that.
@scots_knight47064 ай бұрын
@@PhoenixDad14 Not followed the case but the news report I watched said she was asked that during cross examination in court.
@StellaFl4 ай бұрын
@@PhoenixDad14 Video is called 'I wish he would have killed us instead' - Jennifer Crumbly, mom of Oxford shooter' Timestamps: 1:23 happened and um I've asked myself if I 1:26 would have done anything differently and 1:28 I wouldn't have
@notpub4 ай бұрын
Ignorant. Possibly the result of her own poor parenting models. She has no real capacity to understand mental illness. Perhaps she even doesn't buy into psychology as a valid science.
@carolynbreeding83294 ай бұрын
Guilty of negligence. People want this and parents need to stop ignoring their dangerous kids
@lilylore30584 ай бұрын
Maybe it was the Gun purchase... Just saying. If it's just simply bad parenting and teenage mental struggles, then Look out Parents Everywhere!!!
@SunniesideUps4 ай бұрын
💯% Don't procreate and be negligent
@cristineconnell78034 ай бұрын
Creating dangerous kids by ignoring them & neglect! He was left alone from age 6 with his main companion violent video games! What the heck did they think would be the results?
@jikook74574 ай бұрын
Her segs rendezvous, the horses and drinking were more important to her than her son.
@sixgrandchildren59734 ай бұрын
Yes they made an example out of her. Parents, don't let your children have access to guns, unless supervised.
@JulieC8844 ай бұрын
She said she couldn't do anything different! ????? Crazy and obnoxious!!
@stephie6404 ай бұрын
That would have been the nail in the coffin comment for me if I were on that jury. Zero remorse.
@barbaracollins56054 ай бұрын
Julie, wouldn't. Big difference.
@DeeAnderson-oj2hr4 ай бұрын
That was a very ignorant response. Four students died, and she's satisfied?
@ecclairmayo41534 ай бұрын
Now she had plenty of time to think of what she could have done differently
@gingersnapped52354 ай бұрын
Gross negligence on the parents here, buying their teenage son - who clearly has socializing issues among other mental issues - buys him a gun!... not a puppy, a gym membership, maybe get him into a sport league, or teach him to drive & get him a car...no....they buy him a gun! What on earth were they thinking? Bet they NEVER thought they would be on trial facing prison time Save the taxpayers the cost of another trial and send both mother & father to prison. 4 kids are dead because of THEIR negligence & THEIR sons stupidity. Pay more attention to your kids people, know what is going on with them, daily. Ask questions, answer their questions, respond to them, be a parent not their friend ....that comes later in life once they reach adulthood & create a life for themselves -THEN you can be their friends - as kids - they NEED attentive parents!!!!
@griffin22634 ай бұрын
Glad they didn't buy him a puppy he was torching small birds ..
@MyDuckSaysFucc4 ай бұрын
I bet they were hoping he’d use the gun on himself. Horrible people. Glad they are being held accountable.
@spiralrose4 ай бұрын
I think they were hoping that Ethan would kill himself Then they would be done with hassling of him, but still get a lot of sympathy from their community. You would be surprised how many parents Intentionally actually set up their own children to die
@Rosehips06104 ай бұрын
Well said 🤔
@lastjob20114 ай бұрын
They gave the boy whatever he wanted, to shut him up so that they could continue living their lives. Both spouses were cheating on each other. He told his mom he was seeing demons flying in the house. She said he was just "messing around". She said they bought their 15 year old a gun "to use at the gun range".
@paulahenderson98784 ай бұрын
Defense attorney was absolutely unprofessional, petty, childish. Ineffective counsel.
@loripowell76544 ай бұрын
She was playing the “ Colombo” card!! Remember the TV series Colombo???
@ang_ro4 ай бұрын
yup. this will be appealed on those grounds I bet.
@AL-fl4jk4 ай бұрын
The judge was super biased too. The jury knew better.
@CrazyCatAER4 ай бұрын
Even her closing arguments! Why bring up there were TikToks made about her and memes- they had nothing to do with Crumbley - The jurors couldn’t watch those things
@Leigh34204 ай бұрын
@@ang_roI know ineffectiveness of council.
@maureencoleman92484 ай бұрын
It’s about time , parents are responsible.
@kathylarson88764 ай бұрын
I guess the jails will be full of parents while the thugs go free because not their fault, our upside down country
@sherryscarabino2554 ай бұрын
Hope you never have to be in her shoes obviously, with that comment, if you have sons, they're perfect 🙄
@BillyBoy1984 ай бұрын
Good job D.A of Oakland County. All parents take note.
@notpub4 ай бұрын
Lesson: Don't have children. Ever.
@TheMostHighDaughter1804 ай бұрын
👍🏿
@stephie6404 ай бұрын
Unless, of course, your are in a state that forces you to. This will set a delightful precedence in the South.
@user-ph4pc4mg7z4 ай бұрын
As well as the nation!
@WyattRyeSway4 ай бұрын
@@notpub….Lesson: don’t buy your minor kids a gun. Lesson: if you have kids, be responsible for them. Lesson: stay in tune to your kid when he’s screaming for help. Lesson: Lock your guns up so others can’t get a hold of them.
@candicisco96664 ай бұрын
The prosecutor really took it easy on Crumbly. He didn't interrogate her on the fact that they locked their son out of the house the night before the shooting because he was hallucinating. Ethan made a video. He must have been freezing. Imagine having these terrifying hallucinations & instead of your parents helping you, they mock you, get angry & lock you out of the house. Evil parents raised a son who committed evil acts.
@lauriesawyer26154 ай бұрын
I believe they couldn't bring that video into evidence, so the prosecutor couldn't question her on that.
@tedged4 ай бұрын
they took it real easy on her. mountain of evidence.
@newnana90704 ай бұрын
I didn’t know they had done that the night before. They locked him out because they were scared, but acted like there were no mental issues!!! Man, WOW!
@BrYaNzBiOtCh694 ай бұрын
You nailed it, I honestly worry about all of the other children who could be in this situation.
@arizonadreaming41834 ай бұрын
I never heard that part, what did he tell them, and why did they lock him out...? .thx
@richardresendez23254 ай бұрын
They laugh at him when he ask for help What kind of parents are they
@mikerussell25344 ай бұрын
Suck it up, they said
@truecrimenut66964 ай бұрын
I agree the helicopter never got out of the gate either. If she had just taken him home from school, when she saw that picture of the gun, words that said “ the voices won’t stop”, “help me”, blood everywhere etc etc, KNOWING THEY HAD JUST BOUGHT HIM THE EXACT GUN….and then mentioned she “wouldn’t change a thing.” This was the RIGHT verdict. Hopefully his yields the same results. Both parents were too wrapped up in themselves to care at all about the state of mind of their son. Very sad all around.
@notpub4 ай бұрын
Disagree. The only one accountable is Ethan. She's a lousy parent, but that is not congruent with culpability. Sanctimonious hindsight.
@jordanferguson74254 ай бұрын
Accountability is not the same as responsibility. Ethan was responsible, jury decided its time to hold the parents accountable@@notpub
@lorigreen41344 ай бұрын
@@notpubnope. She walked out of that meeting after 12 minutes knowing he could have the very gun he drew with “blood everywhere”. “HELP ME” her child said and she did nothing, not even secure the gun.
@enyamouth694 ай бұрын
@@notpubif my dog killed someone because I had it running loose i would be held accountable same if you buy your unhinged kid a firearm the jury got it right and your an idiot.
@spiralrose4 ай бұрын
I’m glad poor parents are finally being held accountable and people aren’t acting like adults have the right to treat children in which way they want to just because they had them
@tomdave424 ай бұрын
If you buy a kid a firearm, then you must assume responsibility what happens during the use of that firearm. You bought a minor child a firearm and expected not to be charged with murder after that said child murdered children in a school. I hope you're such a precedent, are you is that by your children firearms, now you can be held responsible for what your child does with that firearm you bought
@reyreycolortorch96784 ай бұрын
This
@jenn13884 ай бұрын
She didn't buy the gun
@scots_knight47064 ай бұрын
@@jenn1388 So how did he get it then ? It was said it was bought as an early Christmas present.
@cristineconnell78034 ай бұрын
@@jenn1388She bought the ammo! Don't buy her blame shifting & deflection! Thank GOD the jury saw through her! She "wouldn't have changed a thing"! Showed no real care or concern from the get go for her son or his dead child victim's!
@redneckgirl33264 ай бұрын
In my family, we got our first .22 rifle at age 12, the age we could legally hunt in our state. We NEVER got to touch it without Dad with us, ever. We didn't dare. Our parents would never have done that, even taken us hunting, if we had mental issues. But they were real parents not "helicopter parents."
@michellestlicitra91054 ай бұрын
Jennifer convicted herself…when she said “She would NOT have changed one thing”, if she could change any thing, she said NO😡😭❗️
@ecclairmayo41534 ай бұрын
I was floored when she said that directly to the jury. She should have never been put in the stand. She showed no remorse, so the verdict is spot on!
@gagecarlsen38724 ай бұрын
That would be saying “I’m guilty” if she said anything different.
@michellestlicitra91054 ай бұрын
@@user-yf3ws9sf5c So?! This weapon/pistol they bought him, was a semiautomatic 9M! Capable of discharging many rounds quickly!!! This was my point❗️ Why did he need this type of arsenal?!
@michellestlicitra91054 ай бұрын
@@gagecarlsen3872 Absolutely not 😳
@michellestlicitra91054 ай бұрын
@@user-yf3ws9sf5c It’s up to the Judge on the years, if any! She has the authority to sentence her to time served and give her probable, if she wants to❗️
@newnana90704 ай бұрын
She knew he had problems, she just didn’t care!!! You don’t buy you under age son a gun as a gift!!! She seems shocked.
@barbh14 ай бұрын
It was not illegal for them to buy the child a gun. I don't agree with that, but that's the law.
@KohalaLover4 ай бұрын
@@barbh1 She never wrote it is illegal. Jennifer and her husband bought a firearm for Ethan and never locked it up, knowing (and ignoring) the son was vulnerable and mentally ill. That he hallucinates, believes the house is haunted, etc.
@kmurray5594 ай бұрын
@@barbh1It should be illegal to buy a minor a gun. He didn’t need a gun and used it for mass destruction
@Beckidoglover4 ай бұрын
@@barbh1It is illegal for a minor to have this type of gun.
@cristineconnell78034 ай бұрын
@@KohalaLoverNo way he was keeping dead baby bird heads in jars in & they didn't know he was torturing baby birds!
@kalyn72204 ай бұрын
It doesnt matter what the school said or anything that happened in the past. The second she saw that math work sheet was the second that this was forseeable. Shame on the school too but as his mother she needed to act immediately.
@100Mickl4 ай бұрын
They didn’t know he had a gun they didn’t know all the incidents of him asking for help - she could have monitored his search history etc right decision
@scots_knight47064 ай бұрын
I believe the school was never told he'd had a gun bought for him.
@WyattRyeSway4 ай бұрын
I suspect the school is very concerned at this point as they are being sued in federal court. I suspect James may now want to make a deal. Hope they don’t let him.
@saratullas55094 ай бұрын
If I was school staff, I would have just called the police. He was clearly a danger to himself and others with his behavior. Parents wouldn’t remove him from school and the school allowed them to leave him there, negligible on both sides
@Audreypillar4 ай бұрын
If your first inclination is to feel sorry for her I highly encourage you to watch the whole trial to be fully informed. The jury got it right.
@jenniferbailey59144 ай бұрын
You buy your child a gun you are responsible for what that child does with that gun!
@Hunee-4 ай бұрын
No matter what our opinions are, the only opinion that matters is the jury’s opinion. The jury got it right. There was overwhelming evidence that proved how grossly negligent and careless these parents were. The defense attorney did her client no favors.
@Bigbubba30314 ай бұрын
You claim that the only "onion" (you spelled opinion wrong) that matters is the jurors yet the very NEXT sentence you offer your own opinion by saying they got it right. Please stay consistent thank you.
@iloveahsharah4 ай бұрын
@@Bigbubba3031I mean she can have an opinion. But The only ones that mattered was the jury’s… so that’s right
@billtressler62824 ай бұрын
No they got it completely wrong. Mob justice.
@EastmanEditing4 ай бұрын
OJ agrees! 👍🏾
@loriwitek33784 ай бұрын
Yeah, the defense attorney was a joke.
@user-ph4pc4mg7z4 ай бұрын
Remember that several of the jury members are gun owners! That tells me they are responsible gun owners and parents! God bless them for putting the children's lives first rather than the rights to purchase guns!❣️🙏🇺🇲
@MrMikeTauber4 ай бұрын
WELL SAID!
@cf63934 ай бұрын
Problem is she is not a Mom. Just a narcissist.
@erikaarmstrong34144 ай бұрын
That was really ignorant, some of the jurors are gun owners really half the United States or more are gun owners, and we all have a brain in our head with common sense shame on you
@WarrenHolly4 ай бұрын
Who knows. Some people go along to get along.
@lifeby20444 ай бұрын
MAYBE are responsible parents MAYBE NOT but is sending a message that no matter what lives can get ruined. Lessons, lessons, lessons to learn for the USA citizens
@Therapistmind4 ай бұрын
Historic ..parents must learn from this! Thank God!
@sixstrings10634 ай бұрын
Yep historic to have common sense, good parenting, safety awareness, intelligence and knowing your child to see mental, emotional problems.
@kayzeegirl9724 ай бұрын
When their son voiced his plans, the mother told him” just don’t get caught! Where’s the mentality of that? The parents are worthless human beings. So sad.
@user-ph4pc4mg7z4 ай бұрын
This will be a message to parents nationwide in the US, As it should be! ❣️🙏🇺🇲
@kathylarson88764 ай бұрын
True, another sick thing in our sick country, parents beware they are coming after you
@user-ph4pc4mg7z4 ай бұрын
@@kathylarson8876 as we should be!
@kathylarson88764 ай бұрын
@user-ph4pc4mg7z thugs with jail free card because not their fault, parents fault, while parents put in jail, people sleeping in tents and shitting on the street while illigals free hotel rooms and credit cards, billions over to Ukraine to fight a lost war to the last dead Ukrainian and pockets full of money, sending weapons and money to Israel to commit genocide, a country where working people can't afford to eat and house without two full time jobs, as it should be, this is our great country with such holier than thou people
@bdubs5324 ай бұрын
@@kathylarson8876is very paranoid of exposing herself
@kathylarson88764 ай бұрын
@bdubs532 look around you and see the nasty our country has become with holier than thou naive people like you, millions sent to a hopeless war that is killing Ukrainians to the last dead, arms sent to Israel to kill thousands of children, our citizens sleeping and shitting in the street while money cards and hotels for the million coming over our border, thugs getting a out of jail free card, while you all holier than thou people want to put a mother in jail for 15 years for what her son did, you'll caused our countries downfall with your ignorance
@taynathibault97524 ай бұрын
no 15 yr old should own or have access to a friggin gun.
@sandyquino20154 ай бұрын
Guns are not toys and mental health is not a joke!!! Parents need to open their eyes and start taking their every responsibility more seriously (on and off line).
@sixstrings10634 ай бұрын
Shouldn't public schools teach about relationships, parenting, family, mental illness signs, responsibility, get help if parents won't etc instead of some of the worthless stuff they teach?
@sambia72954 ай бұрын
She would not have done anything different! Wow, that blew my mind! Plus her saying she has lost everything, I was glad to hear prosecution when she said, you still have your son. Jennifer loves Jennifer.
@InteriorDesignStudent4 ай бұрын
I remember when it happened SO many people online scoffed and said these charges would never make it to trial. Justice was served today.
@slh69034 ай бұрын
@InteriorDesignStudent, you're so right! I was skeptical myself that the charges would result in a trial for the parents, but I think there was just sooooo much evidence that came to light during their investigation. I believe justice was served as well.
@kingsethos51084 ай бұрын
Thank you jury. Parents need to be held accountable.
@stephaniegeer33104 ай бұрын
And this is about time that parents are being charged!!
@jikook74574 ай бұрын
I'm curious how "mom, dad, take me to a doctor. I need help! I'm seeing clothes flying off shelves and having hallucinations" doesn't count as a red flag to these self-centered, uncaring, neglectful, people. Smh
@Southernnj264 ай бұрын
She should have never said there’s nothing she would change !!! Obviously now she’ll have years to think if she’d change it going back
@soniacastro24804 ай бұрын
The gun was bought for his suicide
@astrialindah27734 ай бұрын
That was my thought as well 😢
@user-ux8nr2ej9e4 ай бұрын
Holy smokes ! It hadn't occurred to me before you said it . I think you could be on to something .
@MrFrance974 ай бұрын
Terrible parents either way. Enabling instead of listening and helping.
@user-cb6re8yd8e4 ай бұрын
I hate to say it, but I thought the same thing
@MaryClareVideos4 ай бұрын
Yup
@TruthFinder-br6ey4 ай бұрын
This child was raised by horrible parents who did not even care that he was mentally ill! They bought him a gun instead of a therapist! All parents who neglect and abuse their kids should be held accountable!!!
@EastmanEditing4 ай бұрын
You read all that in a news article summary from 1-2 years ago, yeah? Or a regurgitated opinion piece from someone who watched 4 minutes of the trial?
@KathyMpamugo4 ай бұрын
Who buys a 15 year old a gun ? 🇨🇦
@lf93414 ай бұрын
Yep..
@Yaaj884 ай бұрын
Exactly perfectly said! They clearly have mental issues themselves smh They deff need to held accountable!!
@Yaaj884 ай бұрын
@@KathyMpamugoexactly I have a 15yr and 18yr old that ish never would cross my mind! This boys parents are clearly sick in the head as well!
@SilentThundersnow4 ай бұрын
Congrats Shannon! You set a precedent for the worst mom ever. This isn't actually a precedent. Child abuse and criminally negligent behavior has always been illegal. Giving your minor a gun has been illegal. Gross NEGLIGENCE SHOULD he held legally against the parents. Rarely will a parent be this negligent. But if they are, THEY NEED TO GO TO JAIL. 4 KIDS ARE DEAD! The parents knew FAR MORE than the school. IT'S NOT HISTORIC!! This behavior of the parents has always been illegal! Give a kid a super fast car, it's reasonably foreseeable he's going to drive fast!!
@waynemalford30204 ай бұрын
So if a minor kills someone in an accident we should jail their parents for giving them the car? A kid I went to high school with killed his sister with his dad's gun. What's the difference between that and this? His dad was a Troy cop. She's a shitty parent but doesn't belong in prison.
@darasmith40694 ай бұрын
A gun is quite different than a car. He put the gun literally to the head of at least one other person, and he was sure he or she would be dead very shortly. How many people in this world could do that?
@catherinearmstrong3884 ай бұрын
Yes and he begged them to take his mental illness seriously.
@truecrimenut66964 ай бұрын
AMEN…
@truecrimenut66964 ай бұрын
@@waynemalford3020 Your example comes no where near to the circumstances of this case.
@Rileygirl7464 ай бұрын
How many parents are looking at their kids tonight and saying : "shape up! I'm not going to prison for you!" Remember when tv would sign off at 11 PM with the star spangled banner and asking : " Parents, do you know where your children are?"
@MaiteRodriguez-tt4pi4 ай бұрын
NEVER EVER BUY YOUR CHILD A GUN JUST BECAUSE THEY ASK.. ESPECIALLY WHEN YOUR AWARE THAT THEY HAVE PROBLEMS. THEY WERE TO BUSY WITH THERE OWN LIVES TO EVEN NOTICE OR. CARE SMH!!!!!
@MrsSMJ254 ай бұрын
It was probably more a case of having to go to work & not wanting to put up with his bs antics which at first seemed like his usual behaviour - until it wasn't & she refused to believe in mental health issues - to her detriment. Buying the gun is a mute point - they had their own guns in that house which he could have used
@jenn13884 ай бұрын
That would be a MOOT point
@MaiteRodriguez-tt4pi4 ай бұрын
@@jenn1388 😂😂😂
@MrMikeTauber4 ай бұрын
Parents - wake up and act like Parents! This is a justified verdict. She bought a gun for a child she hardly even knew.
@richardwolcott55674 ай бұрын
We fled the scene of the crime because we knew we were screwed
@angeladmccain34474 ай бұрын
finally some real accountability. Sad that this is the first.
@veronicabatteham98644 ай бұрын
Not surprised parents take notice ,your child isn't your best friend ,
@SilentThundersnow4 ай бұрын
Tell me you didn't watch the trial without telling me you didn't watch the trial. Had these parents been best friends with this kid, it would've changed everything.
@AL-fl4jk4 ай бұрын
“Best friend “?? Try BASIC RESPONSIBILITY
@dari43034 ай бұрын
if they were his friend he probably wouldn't have done what he did instead they were his bullies and enablers! Did you hear the part where he told them he was struggling and they laughed at him, and then bought him a freaking gun for his birthday!
@jeanettesmith7654 ай бұрын
I hope this is a start of more parents being charged.
@Dogmom-vj5ko4 ай бұрын
Oh my God that defense attorney reminded me of some bobblehead I cannot even believe somebody would give her a law degree she was a little girl she was so childish and Petty
@Agathanagatha4 ай бұрын
He was seeing demons throwing things around the house and begging his parents for help,the drawing with the words saying blood everywhere please help me was heartbreaking.he was told to suck it up and even laughed at.he had one friend to talk to who then left his area and he had been telling him that he’s asked his parents to get him help and had even thought of taking himself to hospital. If they had gotten their son the help he desperately needed then this terrible thing may never have happened. They neglected their son so badly and cared only about themselves and when she said she wouldn’t change a thing that she did said all we needed to know about who she is. She should’ve been charged with child neglect as well
@christiewright14574 ай бұрын
It was absolutely mind blowing that she thought she could get on the stand and say those texts were his way of playing around….then also say that there were no signs of mental health issues. Talk about a bad parent…wow
@virtualxella4 ай бұрын
Her saying she "wouldn't have done anything differently" sealed her fate. Her lack of empathy and remorse also sealed her fate, but the fact she doubled down on her actions and said she wouldn't change anything is crazy. I audibly gasped when I heard her say that. Even if you feel that way, what on earth would possess you to admit it in front of the jury?
@DeeAnderson-oj2hr4 ай бұрын
It was the most foolish thing to say
@slh69034 ай бұрын
@@DeeAnderson-oj2hr agree! She could have said something like - obviously I didn't think his troubles would result in this horrific situation, but knowing what I know now and what has come to light about things I wasn't aware of, of course I would do things differently.
@YCHuen-ed4sk4 ай бұрын
I'm glad she is found guilty, she and her husband failed to their child and the death of 4 beautiful teens and the pain and suffering of so many families and the community. I can't believe that she is saying now that there is nothing she would change if given the opportunity .........how how????
@sunshine227234 ай бұрын
The jury got it right!!! she'll do fine in prison where she belongs what a irresponsible person. cant wait until sentencing times 4.
@nyd20214 ай бұрын
As a parent, I agree!! IMO she set him up to do that so he would go to prison and she could be free... SELFISH. Didn't consider this part lmao. Any caring parent, even if innocent, would be riddled with guilt. 5 victims in this case :( PARENTS: Care for your children, and if you're not okay, GET HELP so that you can be there for them.
@DeeAnderson-oj2hr4 ай бұрын
Exactly! Even the most caring of parents would struggle with guilt. And she claims she's okay with her role!
@PhoenixDad144 ай бұрын
I hope the public majority understands how big a step this is for common sense gun safety laws. This sets a precedent that should have been there to begin with. If you own a gun, it is your responsibility as an adult to keep it locked. Especially when there is a child in your home who has told you they hear voices.
@ncressy4 ай бұрын
and don’t be so lazy that you choose a combination of 000 for the gun safe…
@cristineconnell78034 ай бұрын
The same should be if you own a car, chain saw, machete, kitchen knives, etc! It is about having the relationship with their child first! He was clearly secondary & Mom was more interested in finding other men to hook up with & riding her horses drunk! Parent's who parent by leaving their children home alone from a young age playing violent video games, target practice, etc. Then to give that child hard liquor & prescription drugs when he cries for help! That's the issue, not the tool they armed him with!
@paulinereynolds31374 ай бұрын
😅
@sixstrings10634 ай бұрын
Big step for common sense laws? Gun laws violating the second amendment arent needed, jumped on by democrats because one dumb, incompetent woman and husband didn't parent well and didn't notice the sons mental issues.
@ecclairmayo41534 ай бұрын
The law has always been the same whether is a 15 year-old school shooter or a 3 year-old finding his parents unsecured weapon and killing themselves and their siblings. Parents are always held criminally responsible for what their minor children do with their unsecured gun.
@rebeccaeastland80254 ай бұрын
1. He’s hearing voices 2. His dog died 3. His only friend moved away suddenly 4. The gun safe had the default code You get called to the school because he’s got this disturbing drawings on the math work sheet She … never mentions 1-3 at the meeting. Then leaves him at the school. My God; so cruel. Do you wish it had been different-I wish we had been shot? How about, I wish I’d gotten him help; I wish I’d have rushed him to the ER for urgent help. Even her remorse was NARCISSISTIC! I’m hopeful he’s getting mental health now.
@beachfly80664 ай бұрын
Her son was ‘screaming’ for help with his behaviours and scribbled notes. Parental negligence and responsibility 💯
@covenleaderlyzz4 ай бұрын
YESSSSSSS LET’S GOOOOOOOOO The jury got it right. Don’t neglect your kids. The parents failed their son on so many levels. Maybe lock up your guns too, with the cable lock, ammo stored separately, and actually change the case’s code instead of leaving it at the default 000, and this wouldn’t happen. If your child is reaching out for mental health care, get them the help they need, rather than laughing it off like the Crumbley’s did. Parents are responsible for their children’s actions until they are 18. This is for the best. It all starts with the parents.
@willd20754 ай бұрын
Exactly. 👌 Couldn't agree more.
@newnana90704 ай бұрын
She bought the gun for the son! It wasn’t a case of locking up the gun!! It was his own gun.
@Paragon624 ай бұрын
Make sure u se Cure your kitchen knives car keys etc you stupid person u are now agreeing to crimalise parents.
@Roxanne_Oregon4 ай бұрын
You are 💯% right. He was only 15. They had been negligent toward him for years. Hopefully this will wake parents up.
@johnriddle32184 ай бұрын
She didn't buy the gun @@newnana9070
@mmay66214 ай бұрын
Why doesn’t the judge have a microphone? Ridiculous
@nickinurse64334 ай бұрын
It's about time we start putting some sensible restrictions on the second amendment.
@cristineconnell78034 ай бұрын
This isn't about the tool he used, it's about the results of gross parental neglect then arming him with a potentially dangerous tool! Have had them in our home for more than 60 yrs & they never jumped up & hurt anyone! Dang handy when self defense is needed though! Just had a neighborhood shoot out, because 3 armed thugs were breaking into homes & got stopped by a wise home owner! 1 shot & arrested at hospital, 2 on the loose! We have an invasion at our border, we better understand why we have our Constitutional Rights & do all to keep them! Or no one is safe! But parents have a responsibility to their children, including emotional needs! They created it, ignored all red flags, then armed it with a dangerous tool! It's not the tools fault!
@WyattRyeSway4 ай бұрын
@@cristineconnell7803…this comment was perfect! 100% true!
@jessicaanderson33794 ай бұрын
@@cristineconnell7803Amen.. well said. ❤
@discdoggie4 ай бұрын
@@cristineconnell7803there is no “invasion” at the border
@metalmamasue36804 ай бұрын
Agreed. None of this is happening by accident people. But I agree they were totally negligent. If parents know their child is disturbed and still don't take his concerns seriously, then provide him with tools he shouldn't have, it should be common sense that's a very bad idea. Especially when the school called her in and she didn't see a huge red flag. However, this is not just cut a dried, why this is happening. It makes me furious when 2A parents do such things because they will use it as a justification to take away more of our rights and freedoms. Let's say they didn't get him the tool. I believe he would've tried to get one some other way. There is a disturbing lack of boundaries and discipline, plus not being involved enough in your children's lives. BuIIying isn't taken seriously enough, I pulled one of my own kids out of school because of it. Some thing is very, very wrong and we have to look at what's behind the bigger picture.. We were raised many years ago with the same tools. We never in any world would have touched them without permission, and were taught how to properly and safely handle them. We didn't have these horrible incidents happening back then. Never. Not once. So we have to ask ourselves why this is happening and whose policies are causing such a lack of control over people's own children.
@namchansawang83294 ай бұрын
Long shot but did that "mom" WANT her kid to be put away so she no longer had to be a parent? Did she purposely ignored all his cries for help and gave him a gun hoping he'd either off himself or do something to someone and be put away because she didnt think she'd be responsible for his actions?
@irismckay64724 ай бұрын
This is proof that our system of justice works. While no verdict will bring these four beautiful souls back, this decision sends a loud and clear message in holding parents accountable for their actions.
@therealz360z74 ай бұрын
She is guilty of having an insatiable libido , her marital affair should not have came in or her looking for participants for her swinging lifestyle, immoral yes but that certainly doesn't make her guilty of murder . No parent wants to believe thier sweet little Johnny could do something like this . The school didn't feel he was a danger or they would have expelled him immediately they are trained to recognize when I child is an immediate danger this is the mother's only child she has to go by what the school counselor suggests and that counselor believed he wasn't an immediate threat and could go back to class now their pointing their finger at Jennifer .
@irismckay64724 ай бұрын
The issue of her affair was relevant to her state of mind, showing she was not focused on the actions of her child. What is irrelevant is the fact that Ethan was her only child.
@timonza4 ай бұрын
The Counsellor didn't know he had a gun - they bought him the gun and kept that info from tbe school. She told him to not get caught looking at bullets etc (previous incident). The parents are responsible for raising their kids. The school is there to educate. It's this dereliction of duty as parents that enables bad and dangerous behavior
@kmayweather20634 ай бұрын
The affair was relevant…. It showed where she cared more about that man in the Costco parking lot - instead of texting or returning her sons concerning texts about hallucinations… parents need to parent .. he was a minor and needed help .. not a gun
@yyyyyyyyyyyy70364 ай бұрын
The parents never considered their son could easily have turned the gun on them, they really lacked insight.
@ernestclary60354 ай бұрын
That happens an average of five times per week
@joycepayne35054 ай бұрын
Back in the columbine shooting those parents should have been held responsible too. Those parents were guilty too!!!
@keenahockey96824 ай бұрын
Shes aged
@vitalucas94524 ай бұрын
America just improved the economy with this result. You are going to need more jails for all of the parents working 3 jobs and 'neglecting their children'.
@brianleonard68854 ай бұрын
The Jury got it right !
@louisep51784 ай бұрын
So many lives destroyed and ruined my heart goes out to the teenagers who lost their lives so scarily and violently
@usakiwi19864 ай бұрын
Thank you to the Jury. What a horrible position to be in.
@jessicaparsons88574 ай бұрын
Thank goodness - this is the only acceptable verdict. This “mother” had so so so many opportunities to completely stop this from happening.
@griffin22634 ай бұрын
She is the poster child of what an awful parent is. .... horrible person she was so wrapped up in her swinger life style then her kid
@mwatts-riley26884 ай бұрын
You bought him a gun. What did you think he was going to DO with that gun? They ran and hid! The parents ran and hid! Wtf. M
@Dessi4124 ай бұрын
unbelievable that her nor the school searched his back pack the day he drew the picture about shooting the school… they did mention that the bag was heavy but failed to look in it!! that school needs sued also
@dyaneleblanc64474 ай бұрын
It comes down to how much she knew about his struggles up to the shooting. Had she taken him home as requested that day would it have been prevented? This doesn’t mean every parent will be charged. It’s about securing your weapon properly and thinking of your child over yourself. After hearing everything and seeing the drawing and not mentioning the gun? Bothered me If only fear of self harm. So pay attention to change in behaviors, isolation, no longer wanting to socialize with family, hallucinations, questionable drawings. And secure your weapon properly! You can’t prevent it from happening every time but if you’ve done all you can , maybe it can help. Lots of kids hide things well but this kid didn’t !
@kalyn72204 ай бұрын
100% agree. For me it all comes down to seeing that drawing and doing nothing. That alone made a tragedy foreseeable. Whether he used a gun to kill others or took a handful of pills to commit suicide that paper made tragedy completely foreseeable.
@PhoenixDad144 ай бұрын
She knew exactly the kind of kid he was. I keep going back to the texts where he was telling her he was hearing voices. The kid clearly had issues and she chose to not only do nothing to address it, but give him a gun as a Christmas present. I applaud the jury for correctly convicting this unapologetic stupidity.
@jancurtis88214 ай бұрын
I really am starting to think she wanted him to use it on himself. Terrible person
@HereForTheComments9904 ай бұрын
@@jancurtis8821 That thought has crossed my mind too.
@newnana90704 ай бұрын
This woman/ Mom bought the gun for a “gift” for her under age son with mental issues that he told her about! She ignored what he said to her and his Dad. The night before the shooting, he had hallucinations and they locked him outside for their safety!! She knew he was struggling.
@agaelliot4 ай бұрын
she will appeal citing an incompetent defense attorney...
@joycemayfield26904 ай бұрын
I agree that both parents should be held accountable for ignoring the cries for help. But the school officials were in the wrong as well. They should have insisted he leave and not return. The principal, being in charge, should be charged as well.
@sylerbo4 ай бұрын
The fact that they didn't go thru his back pack after finding that letter/drawing, is what I'll never understand.
@sueelliott32064 ай бұрын
To anyone who has ever felt they should read their child's diary...Do Not Hesitate, your action as a parent could save multiple lives.
@billtressler62824 ай бұрын
In many states you can’t even see your child’s medical records at age 14 unless they consent
@Theatercutie914 ай бұрын
When my sister decided to try and commit suicide, to me that meant that she didn’t care about privacy anymore, so I read it. She survived but I had a much better understanding of was happening, what she was up to, etc… it turned out to be really important.
@marlenebulger68224 ай бұрын
Her guilty verdict is basically the fact that the gun was available to their minor son without supervision. That's what gives her guilt. His mental issues are an aggravating factor combined with their neglect, which are secondary factors. The lesson is, if you own guns BE RESPONSIBLE!!! LOCK UP YOUR GUNS IF YOU HAVE MINORS (18 and under).
@donaldcoleman5144 ай бұрын
why run if you wasn't guilty
@jancurtis88214 ай бұрын
I hope she gets the maximum sentence. After all, she doesn't have a child at home to take care of anymore..
@andrewf24 ай бұрын
Say what you will, but if either one of the parents had mentioned buying the gun for Ethan when they all met with school officials, knowing what they knew about Ethan and having been shown the drawings he had done in class, surely the tenor and substance of that meeting would have been much more serious. They knew they had given him the gun and ammunition and at least one of them knew the gun was not locked up properly because they never changed the numeric combination of the gun lock from the default setting of 0000. I can't imagine that learning Ethan had been given a gun and ammunition four days earlier and knowing what he had been drawing wouldn't have prompted a look inside his backpack.
@usakiwi19864 ай бұрын
Jennifer not only failed and hurt her son, she allowed him to hurt others
@Bella-lx8vn4 ай бұрын
The school should be held accountable as well. The people who called the parents with their concerns, the people who saw the horrible drawings in his backpack that basically showed what he was going to do. So many people failed that day.
@sallyjohnson4 ай бұрын
If her husband is found guilty how sad is that, that the whole family is in prison
@marciseles40014 ай бұрын
Well, they won’t be procreating anymore. Some genes do not need to be replicated.
@richardresendez23254 ай бұрын
She wasn’t a mommy!!
@Jess-ce5ur4 ай бұрын
We live in a cruel society where children can be even crueler!! Bullying and alienation happens amongst all ages but especially so in high schools..I know my children are confident and good looking and I feel therefore popular amongst their peers because of this and I've always been thankful for that.. because we all know how the less than esthetically pleasing and yes sometimes "weird" labeled children can suffer, regardless of the love and affection given by the parents.. yes Justin's dad says that he would have been a friend to the shooter but was he?? How do we as parents combat this prejudice and how can we prevent the consequences of these deep wounds ??
@intothemystic33744 ай бұрын
Very good reporting and synopsis by young reporter. The jury did see through Jennifer's lies/contradictions. They got it right. GUILTY on all 4 counts. Lady Justice prevails
@Bigbubba30314 ай бұрын
The jury got it wrong. what a dangerous precedent this sets
@nathanelder52854 ай бұрын
Isn’t she facing a possibility of 60 years? Isn’t it 15 years per?
@chrissyellem73974 ай бұрын
It depends on whether the Judge decides to sentence concurrent or consecutively. We'll see soon.
@CrazyCatAER4 ай бұрын
I thought so also 15 years on each of 4 counts
@500stoney4 ай бұрын
She will likely sentence her to 15 years each, to run concurrently.
@lorrainefranchi91054 ай бұрын
The shooter never got the help he needed instead he got a gun
@John...44...4 ай бұрын
I don't see how anyone can disagree with this. Why on earth would you give a 15 year old a gun? Even disregarding all his mental issues, giving him a gun is stupid
@sallytrued38044 ай бұрын
these people (parents) had the chance to take him home....before anyone was killed.....AFTER seeing the pictures knowing he had a gun they did not take him home, then she lied about what happened at the meeting with the principal and THEN when asked if she would do anything different SHE SAID NO !!! four kids were killed and she would do nothing differently !!!
@michellestlicitra91054 ай бұрын
🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌 Jury got it correct ❣️
@kylehollie4 ай бұрын
Her husband better plead out. ASAP. This is one of the only cases I would ever blame parents for partly being to blame for their child’s actions.
@christiewright14574 ай бұрын
It’s just amazing to me that the prosecution called 21 witnesses and the defense really thought that calling 1 person, Jennifer Crumbly, to the stand to pretty much say “yeah everyone else is lying but me” was a solid strategy…
@coleyounger58824 ай бұрын
In this case the parents of a mentally unstable boy was allowed access to firearms resulting in the death of 4 people. While I have to agree with the guilty verdict Jennifer Crumbley received and knowing this case sets a precedent. I cannot help but ask or wonder will this precedent end up being abused in future cases. I mean after all these days kids, young people, children, whatever you want to call them do the craziest things for little to no reason.
@marciseles40014 ай бұрын
I think parents should take this as a huge warning and all possible negligent parents should be put on notice…
@thebluehotel4264 ай бұрын
Definitely not a helicopter mom.
@nasdcong45024 ай бұрын
This country is in a spiral of orwells 1984!
@melissawall26494 ай бұрын
I always knew, i didnt want to have kids, glad i listened to myself. My horse is my
@dalejones9264 ай бұрын
I think it’s a tragedy of course. The parents are responsible for something, but I don’t believe it’s manslaughter. The schools if anyone is negligent as well. Why didn’t they call the police of a possible dangerous situation. Confinscate the back pack have the mother open it or get a court order to search it after being turned over to the police? No doubt if she was on trial for being stupid she should get life without parole. But stupid is not a crime. The school didn’t have to let the boy back into class. This is unfortunate that there are no do overs. In Texas where a teacher propped a door open after disarming a fire alarm she too should be held responsible as well. Why is she getting a free pass from prosecution. It wasn’t deliberate but deaths occurred because of her actions
@terrybunsey80154 ай бұрын
Now these poor parents have to endure another trial with James Crumbley. God Bless all their children and may they R.I.P. 😇😇😇😇🙏🙏🙏🙏
@SusieMarie3334 ай бұрын
It’s unfortunate that this whole tragedy even took place. The whole thing was foreseeable by many people I feel. But hopefully all parents of future generations are watching this case and are more aware of the consequences we as parents could face if we are not raising responsible, respectful and decent human beings .
@dave212864 ай бұрын
What a terrible precedent this sets going forward
@HereForTheComments9904 ай бұрын
What precedent would that be? White people being held accountable for their crimes? I think we can agree that’s a GOOD thing. Don’t misrepresent what happened here. Their son was convicted of murder, because THAT’s the crime he committed. The parents committed crimes of their own that put the weapon in his hands. He literally could not have committed his crime without his parents committing THEIR crimes.
@ObamAmerican484 ай бұрын
This is a unique pecedent-setting case. It's essential for the jury and judge to keep that in mind.
@KohalaLover4 ай бұрын
Jury already found Jennifer guilty. You think the jury wasn’t aware of that?
@HereForTheComments9904 ай бұрын
@ObamAmerican What is precedent-setting about holding people accountable for their crimes? I guess it’s unusual for a white woman to actually be held accountable, but other than that, CRIMES were committed by these parents. They were not charged with their son’s crimes. They were charged with THEIR crimes that facilitated their son’s crimes. Nothing new or revolutionary here.
@thereisnogodwekilledhim6824 ай бұрын
The fact that she did not secure the gun from her child alone is criminal.
@frankiesmom77034 ай бұрын
Im glad she was held accountable. I do feel like she was a horrible Mother to E. Right after this happen, i saw a video from Ethan youtube page,( i think its down now) his Parents dared him to eat a large spoon full of raw horseradish sauce. He looked about 10 yrs old, he did it, and of course he had a visceral physical reaction, gagging, etc. His parents thought it was so funny, i thought it was cruel... anyway, i dont think his Mother really cared about anyone accept herself, and his dad appears to be a pushover, and quite wimpy. imo
@taynathibault97524 ай бұрын
the reason should be on trial. what is wrong with these americans
@annabellswint57184 ай бұрын
Opening a pandora's box. Parents are responsible to a point. Sad for all involved. What about parents that know their kids smoke weed or do drugs....slippery slope.