Yamaha Super Tenere vs Tracer 9 GT | ADV or Sport Tourer?

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Having tested Yamaha's Super Tenere and Tracer 9 GT models I have a look at the two and give my thoughts on the great debate over whether adventure motorcycles are best, or whether a sport tourer will provide just as much fun.
Obviously that's going to largely come down to the type of riding you do, with an adventure motorcycle offering some additional flexibility if you do decide to get a bit more adventurous, but you may be on the fence on whether that's for you.
So are adventure bikes the new default choice, or is something like the Tracer 9 GT actually a great alternative for the more road focused riders?
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@jonbriddon1566 2 жыл бұрын

I’ve got a Super Tenere and I have owned 30 bikes over the years. The Super Tenere is the best all rounder out of the 30. Perfect for cruising, great for off road gravel riding, brilliant smooth and powerful engine, awesome comfort and it will last forever as it is made of granite.

@davidmallia628 2 жыл бұрын

Bullet proof, and on the heavy side, topwise also.

@derrickmurphy9859 Жыл бұрын

Yes I'm on my 2nd one had a 2013 and now a 2019 .A great machine very reliable and will take you anywhere.

@bobridestwowheels 10 ай бұрын

Super Tenere has the advantage with it’s shaft drive.

@MotoJournoKris 10 ай бұрын

Yea that's a big win for many riders.

@rainsadventures8367 Жыл бұрын

I went from a tracer 900 to a Super Tenere. I spent so much money trying to make the tracer something that it wasn’t. It’s not a powerful bike and it’s long term comfort is just not there. The Super Tenere is the all around champ from Yamaha that does a lot of things well.

@MotoJournoKris Жыл бұрын

Tracer 900 or 700? The Super T definitely wins on comfort, but I'd have said the 900 won on performance, although I do like triples.

@saphinq9989 8 ай бұрын

T900 is a powerfull bike bro xD

@newtonfrazer4096 2 жыл бұрын

Love my Tenere. Best all around bike I have ever owned.

@rugby3874 2 жыл бұрын

Super Tenere is the best and most reliable motorcycle I ever owned.

@2ride_along Жыл бұрын

that was actually a really good review

@MotoJournoKris Жыл бұрын

Thanks!

@alwinbenjamin Жыл бұрын

Thank you sir. 🙌🏻👑

@williammahaffy4642 Жыл бұрын

Great video! Agree with all. Just got an older model S10 and still feeling out the Unified Braking System to see how well I can load the front tire for corner entry. I learned quite quickly that it is a vastly different platform than my previous 500cc, lighter bike but traded up to the S10 with trips/destinations in mind that require a big tank and mile-munching capabilities. Can't wait to really give it a good go! Of note, I sat a Tracer9GT with the OEM seat and I would rather get a colonoscopy. It was awful for my frame and ergo. Would have had to immediately drop £500 for a custom/comfort seat to make it rideable for more than 50km.

@Yamalover78 Жыл бұрын

👍🏻 Nice one... I am actually thinking 💭 and comparing exactly between the two bikes. Probably one of the straight review how they are similar and very different. Thanks

@MotoJournoKris Жыл бұрын

Hope the video was of some help!

@ComfyDadShoes Жыл бұрын

I’d take the S10 purely for the fact that it’s more complimentary to my DR650…. More room, better wind protection, better passenger comfort. Great winter/highway bike!

@MotoJournoKris Жыл бұрын

That would be an awesome combo!

@jasgsxr2726 4 ай бұрын

I'm looking forward to picking up the Tenere 900 , now make it Yamaha it's way overdue !

@MotoJournoKris 4 ай бұрын

That would be some great competition for the Triumph Tigers!

@RetiredTSgtUSAF 11 ай бұрын

I have a 2023 Super Tenere and was surprise to see that it has to run on 91-95 octane gas, talk about expensive.

@MotoJournoKris 11 ай бұрын

Same recommendation as the Super Adventure, GS, Tiger 1200, etc.

@f42un84u Ай бұрын

On flat roads riding steady can use 87 octane. The ECU will detune engine. Expect loss of power. Off road or sporty riding needs 91+. I get 55mpg USA.

@MaxFromSydney1 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks, Kris. Would it be fair to say the riding position for the Super Tenere is bolt up-right, but the Tracer 9 needs a slight forward lean for someone around your height? This might be a consideration particularly for older riders.

@MotoJournoKris 2 жыл бұрын

Maybe just a little bit, but I wouldn't have said it was a big difference, especially looking at some of the photos sitting on the bike.

@user-sw2lv3zp6o 2 жыл бұрын

Different bikes, really. Very different engines. I like the shaft on the older one.

@RRRRefuelRideRace 2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, it is nice to have it, especially if you are tired of lubing the chain all the time. :) Drop by when have time.

@MotoJournoKris 2 жыл бұрын

Yep they are very different machines really, but there's quite a bit of overlap, especially for those who may never actually go off-road, but feel like an adventure is the must have choice these days.

@Geshmaal 2 жыл бұрын

Love a good shaft

@RRRRefuelRideRace 2 жыл бұрын

@@Geshmaal Sure. A very important thing.

@MotoJournoKris 2 жыл бұрын

@@Geshmaal lol

@butchcassidy9125 2 жыл бұрын

Very interesting comparison, Kris!! I have a Tracer 9 GT and use it a lot on quite bumpy bitumen sealed roads. Do you think the Super Tenere would give a better ride quality on bumpy roads ?

@MotoJournoKris 2 жыл бұрын

Honestly, probably not. I preferred the fork setup on the Super Tenere in some situations, but I think the Tracer 9 GT was better overall.

@Jtwizzle Жыл бұрын

Super ten seems awesome its just so big and heavy. Fully kitted out for touring/adv with a rider its well over 800lbs.

@MotoJournoKris Жыл бұрын

Yea that's the problem with all the big ADVs, once you add all that, they end up pretty hefty.

@equivokal Жыл бұрын

Who considers the weight of the rider when comparing bikes 😂

@Jtwizzle Жыл бұрын

@@equivokal Yeah, such an ignorant thing to do!

@RRRRefuelRideRace 2 жыл бұрын

Perfect comparison. Which one has the better stock screen? :) Thanks man and drop by.

@MotoJournoKris 2 жыл бұрын

I'd probably give it to the GT honestly, although I preferred the highest setting and ease of adjustability.

@RRRRefuelRideRace 2 жыл бұрын

@@MotoJournoKris Thanks Kris. :)

@g.bjumpsbashing3062 2 жыл бұрын

hey mate...great vid.thanks. i have kawasaki z650 2021 with bridgestone battlax bt 016 pro hyper sport. 160/60/17 - 120/70/17. my question is. how much air pressure i need to put. (psi) in kawasaki manual say.. 32-34 psi.. but i have bridgestone tire...not stock tires. you can tell me bro.. thanks. (im not racer..drive slow...sometime fast...😁. now summer...in my country 35 degree (C)

@trevorstellrecht6116 2 жыл бұрын

Same pressure regardless of brand will be fine.

@MotoJournoKris 2 жыл бұрын

As Trevor says, you should be ok running those pressures on any tyre. I normally run 32 front 34 rear, which has been recommended on a number of my bikes. Some tyres I do find are quite sensitive on pressure when it comes to comfort. Like 1-2 PSI can be the difference between a harsher ride and much better comfort. On my Daytona I could tell if I had too much tyre pressure in them the first speed bump I'd go over like that. Tyre companies will also generally just refer you back to the manufacturer recommendation.

@g.bjumpsbashing3062 2 жыл бұрын

@@MotoJournoKris thanks alot mate

@EM-eg3qc 9 ай бұрын

Can anyone here compare the Verseys 650 to the Tracer and also the ST? . I know these are all about 300 cc's apart. I am 6'02 240 lbs. I am looking for commuting with comfort so I am not escluding the bigger biles like the ST. People commute on Harleys every day in the midwest which does not have a lot of "Twisties." I rode the Verseys 650 at a demo day. Great comfort but seat pushed me forward too much, fely slightly cramped. I have a ton of questions but am interest in purchasing a bike and getting your feedback. Thank you! I am leanong towards one of these bikes.

@MotoJournoKris 9 ай бұрын

Been ages since I've spent any time with a Versys 650, but the Super Tenere should certainly feel more roomy in that comparison. You can always look at a comfort seat, as they usually add a bit more padding (and height) and should flatten out the seat a bit, just depends what's available for the 650.

@EM-eg3qc 9 ай бұрын

@@MotoJournoKris I started looking at seats for the Verseys. I did not locate one designed for taller riders or to have less of an incline. I am aware of the comfort seat on the Tracer. Thank you for the response. I just need to find a used Tracer and Super Tenere to test drive. I can make my decision then.

@lcdubs7847 Жыл бұрын

Love the Tracer motor, but the 17" front wheel is just too small. 19 or 21 is the way to go.

@MotoJournoKris Жыл бұрын

I'm guessing they kept it 17" because it's so road orientated. Be cool to see a triple-cylinder ADV out of Yamaha though. To compete with the Tiger 800s.

@lcdubs7847 Жыл бұрын

@@MotoJournoKris Yes, a Ténéré 900 would be awesome.

@Jtwizzle Жыл бұрын

Yes its because it is marketed as street use only.

@solidsnake3861 6 ай бұрын

if the tracer had shaft drive it would be perfect for me

@MotoJournoKris 6 ай бұрын

That seems a sticking point for quite a lot of riders.

@fifiandmax 2 жыл бұрын

I find my S Tenere noisy and vibrations into arms over long distance however I much prefer the shaft drive and 19 inch front wheel and larger tank and proven reliability

@is3260 8 ай бұрын

Try Lucas oil stabilizer for motorcycles. Add first then fill oil to recommended total quantity. Dry sump hold some oil in engine. Use MA2 motorcycle oil 20-50W in climates above 60 F, 10-40W below 60 F. Change fluid every 2K miles until 10K. ST engines have tight tolerances and takes long time to wear in. Took until 10K miles that ST engine smoothed out and got quieter. No more valve tapping. Shift much smoother. Engine performance went up.

@yayoi1 4 ай бұрын

Yamaha has all but discontinued the S10. It seems like a no-brainer to release a CP3-powered adv bike to compete in that segment, what's Yamaha waiting for?

@MotoJournoKris 3 ай бұрын

Bit of a head scratcher there honestly. Maybe just a slow development process, or focusing on the R9 first? You'd think the ADV would have a lot more sales potential than a sportsbike though.

@davidmallia628 2 жыл бұрын

As good as they both are, the 1300 is too heavy, and uninspiring. The tracer, too much of a sport bike, no 19 inch front wheel, but, maybe the best choice between the two. A GS boxer is the middle road for all aspects of touring, sport, adventure, comfort, etc.

@MotoJournoKris 2 жыл бұрын

I'd be interested in testing out a GS to see how it compares.

@bassbender7847 2 жыл бұрын

I had a 2019 super tenere and I found it too heavy. I like hustling a bike through the mountain roads and I didn't care for its handling because of it's weight.

@MotoJournoKris 2 жыл бұрын

I was honestly surprised at how well it could be hustled through twisties, but it's a bigger ADV at the end of the day, so you trade some of that ability for the longer travel capabilities.

@derrickmurphy9859 Жыл бұрын

Yes these big cc bikes are heavy.

@miroslavkulisek810 Жыл бұрын

Která z těch dvou je lepší uvažuji o super tenere 1200

@MotoJournoKris Жыл бұрын

Really depends what you're doing. Adventure the Super Tenere is a clear winner, where the Tracer is pure road, and sportier too.

@miroslavkulisek810 Жыл бұрын

@@MotoJournoKris musím si to dávat do překladače vět neumím váš jazyk jezdil bych jen silnice ofroud né jezdím s ženou ale jsme dost těžší takže super tenere 1200 bude lepší volba už kvůli obsahu 1200?

@MotoJournoKris Жыл бұрын

@@miroslavkulisek810 All good, I'm doing the same! The 1200 might be a better choice there, as it's a bit roomier and more comfortable in that regard.