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No S10

Yes.

You spelled Africa Twin wrong.

@@ernieschatz3783 Shaft drive would have made the AT a contender.No, I spelled it right.

I'm on my second, too. Had a 2013 basic model, then bought a 2015 ES. Great machine but NOT AN OFFROAD bike, I normally get just below 50 mpg on the interstate doing 70mph. Drive shaft is boss.

Good idea to buy a 2019 used with 42000 miles? What should I check for? Anything besides the video?

Did you get it? I’m looking at a 2017. I looked at the versys 1000, Suzuki vstrom 1000 also

How has the s10 been for you ?

@@americandude3825 Yes, got it and love it. Very refined bike, as my other Yamaha was (2004 Roadstar 1700).

@@Asdfghjkl1234 Really enjoying the Super T. It does NOT have sexy electronics/instrumentation, but it's adequate. The overall performance of the bike, the smoothness, the handling are all excellent. I love that the Super T is so straightforward and has a reputation as bulletproof.

@@rel62 awesome thanks. Shaft drive is a plus too.

Thanks! 👍

I hope they change some of it in 2023. I’m really holding out from buying a 2015-2022

@@americandude3825 Rumor has it they're working on a Tenere 900...

Well done, juts hit 62k on mine.

Did you install the 2015 clutch in your 2012 ST ? How does it run?

you won't be sorry just don't take the one i want. lol

How do you think the new generation compares to the first since you have owned both

@VehicleHunter pretty similar but new generation 1 seems much smoother and this 1 has electronic suspension which is not essential but nice to have,overall not a massive difference.Both bike are great mile buster machines

How is the 2014?

@@Asdfghjkl1234 great! Approaching the 5k miles mark and loving it

Agree totally

Amazing, is that really true? I would never buy a new vehicle from a manufacturer that doesn’t trust their product even when it’s brand new.. 😳

The quirky cold start behaviour, or 'hard start' issue is common and well understood. Lots of videos on KZfaq on how to resolve it. Have experienced it on my 2014 Super Tenere but it's not a reason not to buy one. Other non-Yamaha bikes can have the same quirk and even my daughter's VW Up! car has had it.

@@dcasteaux9181 Is it? When I had to read up on it i got the feeling based on what I've read that this is just a Super Tenere thing.;)) I had two 2008 Teneres before my Super Tenere, and never had this issue with them, so I was surprised. I might just got lucky. But to have it on car... that's interesting to me. I only drive cars when I'm visiting my parents, so I don't have much experience with them. Thank you for the info!;))

The later model Super Tenere XT1200ZE (ES in the USA) - (2014 0NWARDS), didn't have a 21" front wheel.....Unless I am reading your post wrongly! But the later models had most of the improvements that the earlier models really needed to make the bike that much better. The sound of the engine is improved a little with a better exhaust and the touring mode on the bike is still a bit of a waste of time in any riding situation, Sport mode should just be called "Standard" mode and is the best mode for use in all situations, except perhaps off road...The bike is ultra reliable, it's incredible, and the range of the bike from full to about 3/4 ltrs remaining of, reserve fuel, gets you about 240miles + depending on how one rides the bike. Great bike and massively under rated by almost all,....and those are most who haven't ridden it or, at least, ridden it using it for a fair while to actually get to see how the bike is which is an excellent machine! It's weakness against more modern ADV's (also a lot more expensive), is probably it's weight, 260kg's but once on the move it doesn't feel weighty at all. I don't think the headlights, from my extensive use of this machine, 55000+ miles, are even adequate, especially in dark nights and when it is raining, very poor. Not even with a relatively cheap easy mod of replacing your normal H7 bulbs with mini H7 connector L.E.D. "bulbs", there is a little improvement but not much. Denali auxillary lights fitted would make all the difference.

@@paulcollins7185 Yeah, I wrote "minus" the narrow seat, increased suspension travel and 21" front wheel (why I went to an Africa Twin).

Put the parts on Ebay/Amazon. I was looking for a single rear spoke. Had to buy an entire set.

How did it get destroyed?

فعلا نفس المشكله عندي نفس المديل ممتاز لكن هواء المروحه مزعج وحار

@@user-wt8vg9kl7m كم سعرها اشتريتها اخي واي بلد لو سمحت

Same bike, same stats here in cold Quebec, just using the Sport mode! Best ever bike I ever bought! Two complaints, tough: 1) cases keylocks are key destroyers!; 2) on very cold mornings (under or around 0 C), the engine needs a very little input of gas to start and you can’t miss it, because you’re dead. Love my S10 to the bones!

I had a 13' with no indicator. i would think the dash doubles as 1st gear if other gears are indicated

500km with one tank??. How do you do?.... Really slow run

I had a vstrom 650, it ran much cooler than the tenere. The s10 kind of boils you if its really hot and you are doing bumper traffic. But if its moving its ok. Anything above 95 degrees i can feel the heat on the left side of the bike. The vstrom was very neutral with the head. But no shaft drive.

Haha my 02 fjr runs like a vulcab hot when low on gas but its still a perfect bike just buy good moto pants

Handles great on dirt/gravel, better than the KLR 650 in this regard for sure. Some year GSA's have horrible final drive problems, bad enough they impload on the side of a road.

No vibration at all. It's super smooth. Most bikes from japan ive ridden have been smooth. This one doesn't vibrate at all.

What vibration? It's not a Harley, you know!

I've run it dry, 40 miles after the flashing light. 100 degree day, 80mph flat freeway. Luckily, rotopax saved the day.

@@rogerpitre8663 Where you weighed down with gear?

@@AValentinoFilms No, only has the usual day trip stuff (basic tools, spare gloves, rain suit), and a few items in the tank bag. I had mostly empty hard side cases, and tail trunk.

@@rogerpitre8663 Thank you! It will eventually be a Super10 or an Africa Twin.

@@AValentinoFilms Both good choices. I went S10 due to the tubeless tires and shaft drive. Most of my miles are on road, although I sometimes do truly nasty things with it off road. Its ability off road is a lot more dependant on your skill and what tires are mounted than the difference between bikes.

I read elsewhere supposedly EU laws require speedo NOT to under read, so instead they over read slightly to ensure compliance.

Mine has it too, and it is a 2012

Never got history with it. But i believe it had a very good record of maintenance because the previous owner seems to be very detail oriented. This bike has now 72k and seems fine. No valve checks yet, if it starts tapping ill look into it. I've had a friend who recently checked his and it was in spec, its a pain to do. But it seems the valves set after 40k miles and stay there.

@@VehicleHunter ,, thanks for your reply 🙏. My bike is currently just under 15k miles. I'm very DIY handy 🔧🔩 and can accomplish the checks, " if absolutely necessary ". Yes, it is a major pain and would like to avoid it if possible. I still have plenty of miles to go. I'm researching my options. The local Yamaha dealer is out of the question,, the service department labor rate is $165hr 🤦‍♂️. OUCH!! So,, I will continue to monitor as needed and ride into the sunset 🌇 😍 . Take care, Ride safe and have a great weekend. Cheers 🍻,, G. In beautiful Boulder City Nv. USA 🇺🇲

If you know how to ride, it can take you anywhere.

I've run mine 34,000 miles in about 2.5 years. Oil change every 4,000 miles (Rotella), shaft drive gear oil every 8,000 miles(Valvoline). Takes me about 20 minutes and about $30usd. I've replaced the hub gasket ($28), front brake switch ($0 recall), and had the forks rebuilt because seals leaked ($hundreds, don't do wheelies!). Great bike, I ride about 1,000 miles a month and love it.

Once you have a shaft driven bike for a bike it's hard to go back. Love it, and any bike i keep for a while i want a shaft drive. I do with they made a mid size bike with a shaft drive.

Yeah I would hate that

GPS is my guess. Thats how I know mine is 7 mph off.

@@highwayman1218 I dont think GPS shows the correct speed, its always slower in everything you drive or ride.

@@kaffenoizen Ive only ever heard GPS units being off by 1/2 mph of true speed..

Yep, one of the best mods for cold weather on these is an upgrade to barkbusters and storm handguards. Lets you run the levers where you want and not affecting the guards placement.

It's the 1200 super tenere.

I know the clutch on the first generation is very noisy and causes vibration around 3000rpm's. Gonna upgrade the clutch basket with 2015 model to sort that out. The problem is the springs on the clutch basket becomes loose over time. This was on suggestion from my local Yamaha dealer. See this video regarding replacement of the clutch basket: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/ocyAaMyImNjWoIU.html

Im 6'3 i had risers and I tilted the bars a bit forward causing me to reach a bit while seated but it was great for when i was standing off road

Got both.

Been there

In South Africa the T7 is ridiculously expensive. Off-road the T7 is superior to the 12, but I would not do a long-distance tour on the former.

Can you point me to some examples of the drive breaking and leaking? Do you know the causes? I havent found any issues with the drive. Thanks

@@VehicleHunter There is none. Hes just throwing stuff out. You will spend and do 3x more $$ and work with his sprockets and chains vs the S10 shaft drive. The only advantage to chain vs the S10 shaft drive is the ability to change gearing.

@Geez Haus I Love the S10 for all those reasons.... except, you really can go in the dirt - just take it easy ;) And except for in the mud, it really isn't that hard to pick up (in part because of how wide it is, it doesn't lay all the way flat).

The T7 is designed for being an offroad beast......don't buy it if you don't want to hit the dirt!

Get a Honda c90

@@jjdeville7884 LOL! Oh...you're serious?

I sold my Super Tenere, and instantly regretted it. Back to searching for another one. Out of 46 bikes i've owned it's the best i've had.

Oh man. Mine's a 2014 I bought last year with 30k miles. I ride with an S10 group and guys with more than twice the mileage. It's kinda boring but just keeps plugging away. It goes anywhere the expensive bikes go but with more reliability, less maintenance, and less cost. It's the one bike I plan on keeping. Good luck on your search. @@VehicleHunter

The two bikes are chalk and cheese - no comparison. When you are riding two up, fully loaded, into a strong head wind, believe me: you want to be on the ST. You will be home a long time before the 650 rider and I talk from experience.

@@ronvanlingen5160 I'm about to pull the trigger within a week or 2 on the ST. Tell me about your experience please. Is there a noticable increase in power? What's comfort like compared to the strom?

I had the vstrom 650 and I have the S10 now. I really did love the wee but the S10 is a more stable bike on the interstate and has more overall passing power. The 650 has a great transmission / engine combo. That sucker just sings, whereas the S10 is more agriculture like, but will always pull when you want it to. The S10 is like a pack mule to me. More of a traveller but on the open road that bitch will haul.

@@Romenet310 ended up getting the r1250gs. Just the base model with comfort package for the heated grips. A little more expensive that the S10 but loving it so far. Lots of extra power

@@peterfox5897 yeah I mean that is the best big adventure bike out there, no doubt. Only “problem” is the maintenance schedule a s how BMW sticks you there. That is to my understanding. Never owned one, but they look bad as hell and I know they are too notch.

Frankly I believe you are the one that loses credibility by: 1) addressing a pronunciation issue that has no impact on credibility; and, 2) not identifying the opinions you state are “flat out wrong”, when so many S10 owners agree with him? And in an obvious condescending manner overall.

@@scotthuntlivewithoutanet7692 Correct.... 👍 Ive been a daily rider since 89 ish. Ive owned alot of bikes. I currently own 5 from HDs, crotchrockets, dirt, to the S10. It does have a jerky on off tbw at slow speed, especially 2k to 3k and definitely the worst Ive come across. Sure you can skirt around it with clutch work, but the guy in the video is absolutely correct about the issue. The cure is a ecu reflash, yet the surging isnt completely gone at slow speeds.