It shows gun law is not about crime reduction at all.

Moral of the story, if you are taking advice from the police, get it writing......

A very well presented and informative video. There are so many grey areas, misinterpretation and misunderstandings into the Firearms Acts.

Thanks for the information , just wish we had a strong gun lobby’s like the yanks . We just roll over here ?? Killing our own sport on a daily basis and we don’t even have a gun problem

Since a precedent was set about long-barrelled pistols sharing. Should this information be amended. I believe the case was won due to a long barrelled pistol meeting the same criteria as a rifle: min. 12” barrel and a min. overall length of 24”. I would be interested to see what you say as it would, surely, affect the law as a whole and not just the constabulary concerned.

Fortunately here in New South Wales Australia we are able to share fire arms, at a pistol club or rifle club. If a person is thinking of joining they can do a written multiple choice test and do a quick training course then be eligible for a thing called a P650 which is a temporary arrangement until they apply for a licence (pistol) . Our club has pistols available for training, but you can swap pistols amongst members as long as you have a H licence or a provisional licence Unfortunately at the present time it can take up to three years to get from a P650 to H licence .With long arms if you have an A B licence you can borrow firearms from another shooter provided your safe keeping is up to the standard required.

This video has been very helpful,thank you.I currently live in Canada but moving back to the uk this year. Both me and my wife shoot all the time and are looking to carry that on in the UK. I would love it if you could do a video going in to more detail on couples owning firearms in the Uk and restrictions/advantages around this.

With the 3 shotgun shell restriction what would prevent someone from using the mini shotgun shells and getting for and I still think it's ridiculous that you cannot use shotgun slugs in a shotgun in the UK without a firearm certificate I guess the best you can do is buckshot for large game like a bear

Thank you for making this video, clears up the query I made on your other video yesterday! Why on earth are LBPs not exempt, how on earth is anybody meant to get in to 50 m pistol shooting. Actually, for that matter, why on earth was it dropped as an Olympic sport!

Very interesting. Do you have a video on members of the same household sharing rifles, shotguns and gun cabinets ?

If you were going on a shoot, and had both types of magazines, would you be able to change the magazines to allow others to use the shotgun?

I am very much looking forward to getting my section 1 FAC and shooting loads... Thanks for good show.

What does 'share' mean in the context of section 1 firearms/shotguns? Does share mean borrow ...as in take away from the owner for a period? or would it still be classed as sharing if two FAC holders with S1 shotguns were out shooting pigeons in the same hide and swapped guns for a couple of shots with the other present the entire time?

A good presentation so well done. Although it may seem odd after all a shotgun is a shotgun, if I remember rightly the objective following Hungerford was to outlaw automatic weapons. In this respect whilst traditional shotguns were twin barrel side by sides and later over unders, the pump action shotguns represented a challenge because of their magazine capacity and the compromise was that they should be restricted to 3 rounds only to be treated as shotguns and a greater magazine capacity meant that they would be treated as firearms.

And yet it could all be fixed with just a few words being altered in the legislation (change all references to rifle/shotgun to ‘firearm’), Ho hum.

Do you plan on any time in the future having a video dedicated to Lee-Enfield rifles? I'd like to see what the domestic UK culture is like surrounding what is ubiquitously known around the world as "Britain's rifle". Here in the US, there's no shortage of love for platforms like the M1 Garand and AR-15. I'd like to see something like that, maybe on the Lee Enfield Rifle Association.

Hi Callum. Quick question... As a member of a home office approved club, can I lend my personal rifle to other members of the club? My FEO said that I couldn't but it seems that you showed that I can..... difficult one.

how did you make the shot gun disappear at the end of the vid , was it magic

Great video! I was always told that a section 1 shotgun and LBP aren't allowed to share as centre fire semi autos are no longer legal in the UK, yet these are centre fire semi autos so probably, technically section 5 firearms, but are exempt so stay section 1 with restrictions. Is this correct?

So what about on private ground where your not at a club? Can you not share anything at all then, including rifles?

So If I owned a section 2 shotgun (like a Ruger Red Label break action shotgun) you could legally share it with a person who does not have that particular shotgun on their license?

what is the 22lr top right

Informative pls tell me about Girsan 312 interia shotgun should I buy it

Quick Q. Define sharing, is this allowing someone to use the sec 1 SG in my presence? OR Borrowing the sec 1 SG for personal use?

Excellent, useful video.

How does the magazine capacity constraint deal with the existence of minishells? A magazine capable of holding two 3" shells can hold three 1 3/4" minishells, a magazine for two 3 1/2" shells will hold four minishells. Does the UK have a legal minimum length for cartridges? Do minishells mean that by the letter of the law no Section 2 shotgun can now have a magazine longer than 3 1/2" in capacity?

My son is in his uncle shotgun licence I'm applying for my shotgun licence can my son be put on my licence as well

Our laws are so foolish sometimes. The problem is once they are written they are difficult to remove!

I admire you. if I were in your country i would give up owning guns and following the law.

So on the same lines, how does this stand for a license holder who uses one for vermin control? For example you can allow other people to use your rifle to shoot a deer under your supervision, but presumably this law still stands in terms of a sec 1 shotgun being used for vermin rather than at a club?

"not being able to hold more than 2" what about shotguns that can take an extra cartridge on top of the lifter 'ghost loading' making a 2 + 1 shotgun a 3 + 1, essentially??

In NI. Every weapon including air rifles require a firearms certificate

Hi I've just got my fac licence I already got my sgc and I want to go for my section 1 shotgun I've been told I have to be a member of a club for section 1 shotguns is this true?

Can A Person Saw The Barrel Off A Section 1 Shotgun As Long As It Has A 12" Barrel And Stays At 24" Or Longer Even If The Tubular Barrel Gets Cut Down To Hold 2 Shells?

I thought that Long Barrelled Pistols were legally rifles, and thus covered by "rifles" part?

Can you please do a video on shooting clay pigeon with a section 1 shotgun? My force insist that it must appear as a condition on your FAC otherwise it is a no no - would be good to get Adrians thoughts on that.

So, what is the future for UK shooting in general. Can we ever hope of these old laws changing or will we keep sliding on this slope until they eventually just implant chips in our brains? Hate to be the so negative, but it just never seems to get better, only worse ☹ Edit: atleast we can not pay the TV license and not watch TV, so I guess that's a plus?

if filming for a test and review wouldn't section 12 cover you to use them?

I've also heard the thinking that if it's not a shotgun, then it must be a rifle. Well, not really, it just occupies a grey area where it's neither a rifle nor a shotgun.

Very interesting video.

LBP is technically a semi auto rifle. hence why its allowed. my fac slot for the lpb is a 'semi auto rifle'

I get this all the time, a lot of people don’t realise that “Functionality” it’s a shot gun, But “Legally” it’s a firearm So it’s then controlled under firearm legislation. I know people who think you can just turn up with section 1 shotgun to places, and they don’t realise you need permission to shoot on the ground with that type of firearm first. They think it’s just like a section 2 And a lot of people (or correct me if I’m wrong.) don’t realise you can actually own a “sawed off” shotgun on a section one as firearms only need to have a 12” barrel. But I don’t think it can be a semi auto shotgun or pump shotgun. (Even though you can own 12” semi and pump rifles...) I would ask are revolving shotguns legal? As I haven’t seen any of those about? And what is the legality of “ghost loading” a section 2 shotgun? And doesn’t the capacity restrictions have not effect magazine and cylinder fed shotguns? So you could if possible have a 10 barrel shotgun on a section 2? And is it true that muzzle loaders can be any shape/ side as they don’t have a minimum barrel length or overall length restriction? So you could have a short barrelled muzzle loading rifle and shotgun with a 10” barrel? Or have a cap and ball revolver with a stock clipped on it? And do you know where about that club was that managed to get a LBP on a club license? And to add to that I have never heard about the borrowing of another persons private firearms? I thought that was illegal? As clubs have stated even allowing someone else to use your guns is illegal on club property too? (Especially if it’s a LBP/R?) And didn’t realise section 1 shotgun wasn’t treated the same, I’m surprised a club cant have them but can have a high powered rifle. So does having a shotgun with a rifled barrel change it even more? And .50 cals people have told me only the license holder can own and shoot them? Yet that range in Dorset called the “tunnel” allowed anyone to shoot them? I got told it was because they were a certain length of rifle? And my very last question is no one believes that there was a loophole in legislation that allowed you to get a miniature firearm with a ticket (I’m sure you did a video explaining that?.) Or I’m I getting confused? And so sorry for the long post!

I just have to say, Why? Stupid laws. We need to totally re write all these laws. The laws should be re written by someone who actually understands firearms.

I think there's some flawed logic at work here. As far as I'm aware the firearms act does not make any distinction between firearm types covered by the exemption that allows members of approved clubs to possess firearms and ammunition for the purposes of target shooting. It's not so much a case of section one shotguns and long barrelled pistols being left out, the legislation in fact was in force before the handgun ban of 1997. I believe the confusion arises due to what specific clubs are APPROVED for. As such if a club is not approved for the use of shotguns and long barrelled pistols within it's home office approval then those types of firearms can't be possessed within the exemption, however if the club is not approved for that specific type of firearm it begs the question how have individuals obtained variations for these firearms without being a member of an appropriate club. I find it interesting that you show the two Benelli's and make the distinction between one being legal to borrow and the other not, if you apply the same logic you could only lend the section 2 Benelli to either another SGC holder under the 72 hour rule or a non certificate holder if the club were approved under section 11 as many clay shooting grounds are.

Can I have in my fac entered the same weapon as my wife in her fac?

It’s best even if someone says it’s ok, just don’t do it. The law is the law.

I thought it was obvious, it's a section 1 and therefore classed as a firearm, (although it's a shotgun)

Christ I still can’t believe they took away your Fac Calum, your the most mild mannered non confrontational person I think I have seen anywhere on KZfaq, in my mind you would be the last person in the country I would expect to harm anyone its nuts.

I’d say that the definition that your government uses for shotgun is stupid, but the ATF decided that the Franklin Reformation is a shotgun and that shoots .223.

Just as I can't share section one long barrel pistols, but I can a rifle, it makes no sense...

My previous comment is all a compliment by the way.

God Bless America and the Constitution

Also need section 1 for shooting sg slugs

Why can someone shoot your rifle if you're there with them but not a "firearm"(shotgun)? What?

Is there any hope with Britains new conservative government to get rid of a lot of the ridiculous gun laws on the books?

Unless your a criminal,then you do what you like.

How are you still handling guns?

so a section 1 shotgun is a firearm, you can shair a firearm at a club, but you cant shair a firearm at a club................ yep thats super clear. who came up with this shit !