Picking your references for your FAC application

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4 жыл бұрын

A requirement for UK Shotgun (SGC) and Firearm (FAC) certificate application are references, one for an SGC and two for a FAC. Who should you choose for your best chance of success and what do they need to do?
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@HandmadeProps 2 жыл бұрын

Love your videos!! Full of useful information and well researched. Many thanks!!

@frozenjoe6313 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you for a peek at the current requirements You are required to abide by in the U.K., and These requirements were pretty much beyond your control for the most part............... That being said I feel very fortunate to live in Idaho, United States. Good luck/

@gerrymccann2450 4 жыл бұрын

I’m in the middle of getting mine sorted as we speak so this video is the information I’m needing, cheers mate

@gerrymccann2450 4 жыл бұрын

Cheers mate

@matthewkesterton526 4 жыл бұрын

Fantastic info awesome vid,im a SGC holder lookin at goin for mine hopefully end of the year😛

@EnglishShooting 4 жыл бұрын

Glad you found it useful! Best luck with the FAC 🙂

@sahhull 3 жыл бұрын

One of my long standing friends/associates is a Justice of the peace and company director. Ive known him for 40 years. He's happy to put his name to my SGC applications. I just asked... Hey Paul, would you be willing to sign my SGC application? He said, Yeah gimme it here.

@Urbanspacefox 4 жыл бұрын

So... my mate who just completed a phd is probably better than the mate who narrowly dodged a theft charge?

@busta87 4 жыл бұрын

Waiting on hearing back from a local club to join and hoping soon to apply for my FAC. I already have my SGC so hoping this doesn't take too long to go through once I'm ready.

@samvella1045 4 жыл бұрын

I don’t know if it’s just me but camera quality looks amazing 👍

@EnglishShooting 4 жыл бұрын

Nice to hear the new camera wasn’t a waste 😂

@l33trich1 4 жыл бұрын

EnglishShooting yeah seriously top quality..!

@kiandavies7821 4 жыл бұрын

I’m still here

@DylanSmith-oh9om 4 жыл бұрын

Another great vid and Even More great info. Would you say that there is a specific age people apply for a sgc or fac? And do the police take that into consideration when deciding to grant you a sgc or fac? Im 19 with no criminal convictions thats looking to get into the sport of shooting. I was gifted my first air rifle when i was 6 and have been shooting for 13 years so im very well disciplined when it comes to firearm saftey and responsibility. Any help/info on this would be appreciated. Cheers

@connorbutters8479 4 жыл бұрын

so basically getting a referee is just the goverment checking that you aren't a billy no mates

@EnglishShooting 4 жыл бұрын

Pretty much!

@stevenwolf8483 4 жыл бұрын

What if you are a billy no mates but are really into shooting and not for a sinister reason, just quieter and prefer your own company to that of others.

@utoob9248 4 жыл бұрын

@@stevenwolf8483 then you will struggle, if you haven't got anyone then you may have to stick with your local gun club for two years before applying mate

@zzzzz77771 4 жыл бұрын

So are you confident that you'll be successful in your application for an FAC? You put yourself out there on this channel so they have a lot to go off. I hope you do and wish you luck.

@chasejdmartin 4 жыл бұрын

Do I need to be a club member to get an fac?? I currently have a sgc and shoot on a few farms. I was going to put in for a 22lr. Do I need to join a club first??

@wildpursuits9427 4 жыл бұрын

Nope, being a member of a club is an easy way to get approved for target shooting, but if you're after the 22LR for vermin control you already have land that you shoot over so that is reason enough. Just need a letter from the land owner saying you have permission to shoot over their land to provide to the FEO when they have their interview with you before granting your certificate

@chasejdmartin 4 жыл бұрын

Many thanks for the reply!! fantastic thanks

@will5798 4 жыл бұрын

I always thought the old criteria for a 'person of good character' was rather elitist and snobbish. Glad they changed it!

@Kaiyats 3 жыл бұрын

I know it's like they were stopping lower income people from owning firearms

@Kalleri13 3 жыл бұрын

@@Kaiyats Yes, why world would they...

@mikeyoung7660 3 жыл бұрын

Where can I find the list of firearms I can apply for. I previously owed a colt .45 1911a1, .357 ruger magnum, .308 parker hale rifle and a pump action shotgun, back in the day. I left the British army and joined a shooting club. All changed now.

@sahhull 3 жыл бұрын

The shooting club or your local RFD will be able to help you there

@DaibhidhBhoAlba 5 ай бұрын

There's no list. Just look at Section 5 of the Firearms Act and anything not covered there can be owned on either FAC or SGC.

@Ryan.90 Жыл бұрын

Like you say probably good to put down people with a bit of clout. Always thought the old ridgid system was pretty archaic though. Made me chuckle that, 'publican' was on the list of aproved referees. Although to be fair how hard is it to behave yourself during meetings with your accountant. Whereas the landlord at your local.....😂

@Blindpeoplecantdrive 4 жыл бұрын

Great video Callum 👍🏻 When I applied for my FAC, they told me they wouldn’t accept anyone from my fiancée’s family as one of my referees. It had to be someone completely unrelated to me and my fiancée

@DanDustEmOff 4 жыл бұрын

I had the same response from my FAO.

@willem_vxd 2 жыл бұрын

Does anyone know if my referees need to send a separate letter to my application? I saw somewhere online saying they have to send a letter themselves stating that I am of good character etc.

@EnglishShooting 2 жыл бұрын

No, I don’t believe they do. The police will contact them if they do a character reference. You just need to provide their details.

@peewee007654321 4 жыл бұрын

How long should I wait before asking for my licence to have an open ticket?

@BaronBlackadder 4 жыл бұрын

My FAO told me to wait at least a year after granting my fac

@EnglishShooting 4 жыл бұрын

It will depend on your licensing department but I've been told of up to 5 years experiance with some forces.

@georgebaxter3687 3 жыл бұрын

Is Conners the only shooter in the uk to have an FAC without and SGC? Never heard of anyone like that!

@EnglishShooting 3 жыл бұрын

There's a few others I know of but it is odd 😂

@paulfisher4660 4 жыл бұрын

what if the people you are choosing are anti-gun ? is that a problem ?

@utoob9248 4 жыл бұрын

Not for the police, but for you yes, you'll have to get their agreement to be referees so that'll the hard part, I'd think carefully because if they contact them and they seem not overly happy then that may sound alarm bells which isn't your fault.

@EnglishShooting 4 жыл бұрын

Not really but if they are extreme anti-gun you might want to consider if they would sabotage your license or whether they would even agree.

@paulfisher4660 4 жыл бұрын

@@EnglishShooting oh i get it. doh. almost seems irrelevant if you already know them and they are pro-gun biased.

@mgabriel2636 4 жыл бұрын

"Took a little more persuasion than i would have liked."? What exactly does that mean Callum?

@EnglishShooting 4 жыл бұрын

It's just a joke, with the previous issues I've had with firearms licensing it's not a small ask being my references.

@wilowen8450 2 жыл бұрын

why is a dr of higher standing than a brickie? this is wrong

@promedia7696 3 жыл бұрын

I thought corners was an rfd Callum???

@EnglishShooting 3 жыл бұрын

He's a servant of an RFD which means he can still be a referee.

@andrewrogers1652 3 жыл бұрын

Can the reference be retired police?

@EnglishShooting 3 жыл бұрын

I believe the wording is current serving so retired should be ok

@TheYjmfan 4 жыл бұрын

Callum just asking, conners and Alex are not rfds then ?

@EnglishShooting 4 жыл бұрын

It’s a different Alex, and Conners is only an RFD servant.

@TheYjmfan 4 жыл бұрын

EnglishShooting oh I see got it now! Just asking , was curious.

@purplerocket4300 4 жыл бұрын

I'm curious, if a person is granted an FAC and if they were to commit a crime with the firearm, would the referees be in part legally responsible?

@EnglishShooting 4 жыл бұрын

There's no legal responsibility for the referees, ultimately the decision to issue an FAC is down to the chief of police.

@andyteakel3317 4 жыл бұрын

What about a retired military officer

@EnglishShooting 4 жыл бұрын

They should be fine for a reference.

@user-rw1wc7ig1x 4 жыл бұрын

Damn, the camera quality stepped up a bit eh

@EnglishShooting 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

@dat.v7100 4 жыл бұрын

Can it be someone from a different county?

@DaibhidhBhoAlba 5 ай бұрын

No. Can't even be Northern Ireland. Has to be someone resident in Great Britain.

@MOCKACHINO 4 жыл бұрын

First?

@EnglishShooting 4 жыл бұрын

Last

@madzimbo 4 жыл бұрын

There's 10 minutes of my life I won't get back!

@EnglishShooting 4 жыл бұрын

No one is forcing you to watch 😂

@zzzzz77771 4 жыл бұрын

That makes no sense whatsoever, so see a video titled "Picking your references for your FAC application" and press it, watch it, and then wonder why you were bored watching a guy talk about picking your references for your FAC application? .... were you dropped on your head as a baby?

@madzimbo 4 жыл бұрын

@@zzzzz77771 Humour is lost on bellends like you. keep your bullshit opinions to yourself.

@utoob9248 4 жыл бұрын

Been through this several years ago but still found it interesting.