Yeah because Derek doesn't question Tovia's views.

@@Swectorious Agreed. The blind leading the blind!

Except for that whole religious thing he has going on.

Paul was a hellinist (Roms 16:11)

Hope to see you hanging out at the Paulogia, and Dan McClellan channels as well.

The "Christian" bible was not written by Gentiles or Greeks. "Christians" didn't even exist until long after the first century. The JEWISH NEW TESTATMENT WAS WRITTEN ENTIRELY BY JEWS, ABOUT JEWS, FOR JEWS and the world, and about Israel. The JEWISH followers of Yeshua were called the Nazarenes (sometimes "Followers of The Way") and were just another sect of Judaism that still went to synagogue and celebrated all the Jewish traditions. Why does Singer not tell his followers the truth? Better yet, why do singer's fawning followers not do any adult, responsible research on their own?

Many of us are literal scholars - we know the history, have done the research, believe whatever your need/want to to get by. The NT is flawed, has 200,000 variations in the Greek which many of us read, and scholars have agonized over how to reconcile the gospels for 2000 years. They were written far later than the original authors could have written themselves, in Greek and outside of the land. Its a checkmate I'm afraid but keep doing the caps lock, that will really fix it.@@williamblack3711

Yeah in a tomb

I hope you watch his show on tanach talk on Sunday with engineer host William.

I bet you do. He denies God.

​@@randywagner6961lol someone's butthurt that other people don't believe in his bullshit.

Of course you like him... because he speaks against Christianity... Remember the ancient proverb "Enemy of my enemy is my friend "

​@@madmanmark8387 Thanks 👍

What is "stunning" is just how much tovia butchers scripture! I've never seen him actually answer a question. He has a stunning command of round about double talk! sad, really.

no he doesn't , he's been caught wrong over and over .

He is wrong on a lot of it, and lying to defend his people. Paul's THORN IN HIS FLESH, named JESUS CHRIST, is LEVIATHAN the Sea Beast who suffered a deadly head wound in Psalm 74:14. Then read Job 41, especially Job 41:4, Galatians 4:14, Galatians 3:13, Hosea 13:4, Hosea 13:7-8, and the Bible literally says JESUS IS THE LION LEOPARD BEAR BEAST 666 of Revelation 13:1=8. Even the numbers of the Verses are Perfect. Zechariah 11, it's Judas on the cross.

Glad you made it out the cult. Many never do.

Oh wow, i was raised JW too. I stopped believing their rubbish at about 15 though

Since I learned what a fraud the Bible, especially the old testament was and is, I have had a whole different perspective on Judaism. When you realize it didn't exist before about 150 bc, it really changes the whole outlook. They always portrayed it as being so ancient, when in fact Socrates was older than it was, even Rome was older.

The Hebrew culture and tradition dates back to prehistoric times, and Adam is not the first humanoid in Hebrew culture, but only the last adoration within our cycle in the closest, tangible historical time frame. Learn actual Jewish beliefs, documentation as The oral traditions speak of the world as we know it, and in existence for billions of years

​@@Yosaif-israelThe evidence for that claims you made are founf where? Torah?

Totally agree. 👍 Dovetails with what I wrote above, “I think it’s ironic (and sad) how much time Rabbi Singer invests in refuting the doctrines of a follow-on cult, without realizing he is sitting in the same made-up traditions of a previous false cult.” 🤷‍♂️ 😂

@@SethHdk That's fine to see Singer in a cult of his own, though not the point of the conversation. The focus is on debunking Paul and Christianity. Leave it there.

I find Singer to be very interesting and a great speaker, but it really is hard to listen to someone try so hard to convince us Christianity is a Hellenistic myth (it's also Persian) while being a fundamentalist in the pre-cursor religion that is re-workings of Mesopotamian, Egyptian and later Persian mythology. The part at 1:40:00 where he explains that if a gay person resists the "temptation" they get a great reward in the afterlife was too much. I am familiar with this idea but I'm not here to hear how fundamentalism wasted someones life. Yes the gay person was already calling it "a problem" but still, too much. I would love to see him do an actual debate with Joel Baden or Fransesca Stravrakopoulou.

@@joelrivardguitar He's a partisan without compunction and with an entertaining schtick. He doesn't like Christianity but wants to use his perceived ethno-religious authority to corral gentiles into Noahidism in order to serve his own partisanship. It's what he does. One might say he is a bad-faith actor. Truth he may utter on the matter of Paul or any other in this context will all be downstream from this.

I think you miss the point of having this guy on. He's here to give the perspective of what Christianity is, coming from a devout and educated Jew. I always find him an interesting guest. And I think its a common question among christians of what do the real jews think about this guy. If he's their so called messiah why don't any of them believe in it? Even real jesus believers wonder these things. He has him on to answer this common question. He focuses alot on Paul I wish he would move onto a new topic. But he doesnt have him on to have secular discussions about Judaism. He has plenty of other guests on that can do a better job of that. And singer im sure is also aware of the audience here. I think its cool that he spent 2 hours of his time talking with us. It's always interesting.

That would make a good video you should do one

I would suggest you to search { WHO AM I} talk by swami sarvapriyananda on vedanta to understand the crux of hinduism ... the philosophical and intellectual heights of hinduism is unparallel to abrahamic faith systems.. Infact bible and quran are like kinder garden play book when it compared to the upanishads . They talks about mind ,consciousness , nature of reality thousands of years before these semetic cults. . Why do you think people like erwin schrödinger awe inspired by these vedic teachings ? you are trapped in stories of hinduism... and missing its core.. Does that mean these hindu puranas and epics are not important . yes they have its value as stories in hinduism which are vary much connected to vedanta..it is written for the understandings of common people about dharma and karma ..You are bound to the dharma and karma even if you are god born in a human form...

Nice copy/paste

He's point is about the flaws and criticism of the Jewish people in the bible. Not the flaws of the gods. because then why a nation will tarnish its own name? Flaws of gods are irrelevant, and god isn't flawed in the bible. Thats his point

@@user-jt6or7lw5s Of course that god is flawed in the Bible? Besides that it uses Mesopotamian stories the actual stories are a mess of god having to kill his creations, ridiculous punishment on all life because people ate fruit, saying permanent slavery is ok, plunder of war, killing of all women, children, babies, and animals in 6 cities.

Good point, but since god is a made up concept and doesn't exist, your point is completely mute.

@@JaysonT1 That's... not a counter argument

@@JaysonT1 MOOT

Silly rabbit, Singer has several videos on 53 and on TaNaKh talk is a recurring topic of convo. Don’t take it from me, go look them up yourself.

@@starlion4756 Also read Isaiah 7:14, Isaiah 9:6-7, Micah 5:1-3 and many more too numerous to mention. Jesus is the messiah it is all over in your book.

What do you think we happen?

Really nothing bad is supposed to happen to the average gentile. The bible claims they will see the truth and come to honour god.

wooow. How can anyone believe tovia? He's not telling the truth about Yeshua and the New Testament, because he doesn't even understand the Tanakh. Example: tovia has done no research. If he even understood his own Tanakh, he's understand the New Testament. Example: Messiah would be born of a woman > Genesis 3:15, Matthew 1:20, Galatians 4:4 Messiah would be born in Bethlehem > Micah 5:2, Matthew 2:1, Luke 2:4-6 Messiah would be born of a virgin > Isaiah 7:14, Matthew 1:22-23, Luke 1:26-31 Messiah from the line of Abraham > Gen 12:3, Gen 22:18 Matthew 1:1, Romans 9:5 Messiah from the line of Isaac > Gen 17:19, Gen 21:12 Luke 3:34 Messiah from line of Jacob > Numbers 24:17, Matthew 1:2 Messiah from the tribe of Judah > Gen 49:10, Luke 3:33, Hebrews 7:14 Messiah-heir to King David’s throne > 2 Sam 7:12-13/Isaiah 9:7 Luke 1:32-33, Romans 1:3 Messiah’s throne anointed/eternal > Psalm 45:6-7, Dan 2:44 Luke 1:33, Hebrews 1:8-12 Messiah called Immanuel > Isaiah 7:14 Matthew 1:23 Messiah spends time in Egypt > Hosea 11:1 Matthew 2:14-15 Massacre of children at birthplace > Jeremiah 31:15 Matthew 2:16-18 Messenger prepares the way > Isaiah 40:3-5 Luke 3:3-6 Messiah preceded by forerunner > Malachi 3:1 Matthew 11:10 Messiah rejected by own people > Psalm 69:8, Isaiah 53 John 1:11, John 7:5 Messiah will be a prophet > Deut. 18:15 Acts 3:20-22 Messiah preceded by Elijah > Malachi 4:5-6 Matthew 11:13-14 Messiah declared Son of God > Psalm 2:7 Matthew 3:16-17 Messiah called Nazarene > Isaiah 11:1 Matthew 2:23 Messiah would bring light to Galilee > Isaiah 11:1 Matthew 4:13-16 Messiah speaks in parables > Psalm 78:2-4, Isaiah 6:9-10 Matthew 13:10-15, 34-35 Messiah to heal broken hearted > Isaiah 61:1-2 Luke 4:18-19 Messiah priest as Melchizedek > Psalm 110:4 Hebrews 5:5-6 Messiah will be called “King” > Psalm 2:6, Zech 9:9 Matthew 27:37, Mark 11:7-11 Messiah enters Jerusalem on a donkey > Zech 11:12 Matthew 21:4-5 Messiah praised by little children > Psalm 8:2 Matthew 21:16 Messiah will be betrayed > Psalm 41:9, Zech 11:12-13 Luke 22:47-48, Matthew 26:14-16 Messiah’s price $ used to buy potters field > Zech 11:12-13 Matthew 27:9-10 Messiah will be falsely accused > Psalm 35:11, Isaiah 53 Mark 14:57-58 Messiah silent before accusers > Isaiah 53:7 Mark 15:4-5 Messiah spat upon & struck > Isaiah 50:6 Matthew 26:67 Mesiah hated without cause > Psalm 35:19 & 64:9 John 15:24-25 Messiah crucified with criminals > Isaiah 53:12 Matthew 27:38, Mark 15:27-28 Messiah given vinegar to drink > Psalm 69:21 Matthew 27:34, John 19:28-30 Messiah’s hands & feet pierced > Psalm 22:16, Zech 12:10 John 20:25-27 Messiah mocked & ridiculed > Psalm 22:7-8 Luke 23:35 Soldiers divide/gamble for Messiahs clothes > Psalm 22:18 Luke 23:34, Matthew 27:35-36 Messiah’s bones NOT broken > Exodus 12:46, Psalm 34:20 John 19:33-36 Messiah forsaken by God > Psalm 22:1 Matthew 27:46 Messiah prays for His enemies > Psalm 109:4 Luke 23:34 Soldiers pierce Messiah’s side > Zechariah 12:10 John 19:34 Messiah buried with the rich > Isaiah 53:9 Matthew 27:57-60 Messiah’s resurrection > Psalm 16:10, 49:15, Isaiah 53 Matthew 28:2-7, Acts 2:22-32 Mesiah ascends to heaven > Psalm 2:24, Daniel 9 Mark 16:19, Luke 24:51 Messiah seated at God’s right hand > Psalm 68:18 & 110:1 Mark 16:19, Matthew 22:44 Messiah a sacrifice for sin > Isaiah 53:5-12 Romans 5:6-8 MESSIAH RETURNS A 2ND TIME > Daniel 7:13-14 Revelation 19

Right from the get-go, the authors knew well what the reaction of Gentile Christians would be towards the "heretics." The dynamic in the texts between reverence and derision of practioners of the existing religion is ratioed for a reason.

It was always going to be a problem bc it was a Jewish tradition, claiming a Jewish messiah, from the Jewish scriptures. So throwing put the OT would of discredited their own traditions/writings. So instead they went heavy on the allegorical interpretations

@@tookie36 no it wasn't and no it didn't. It actually belonged to the Hellenistic world (as did Judaism really, though it tried to pretend it didn't).

@@john.premose just because it has helenistic influences doesn’t mean Christian could easily get away from the Jewish Bible and all that came with it. As history clearly showed

@@tookie36 they could easily have gotten away from it. The Jews themselves emerged from the Hellenistic culture. Even many of the Jews were merging themselves with it. If it hadn't been for the reactionary Pharisees, they would have disappeared into the nations around them. There is literally nothing original about Judaism.

Paula Frederickson said that the old testament jews where more henotheistic , believing that there where more gods but for them there god was the god of gods.

Well said

@@fingerpickinggoodgod of gods means there are multiple 😂, also yahweh says its ok to kill people which he created in order to please his chosen people..?? I guess hitlers god was also like that so we cannot blame him??? This conversation has no end…😮

..the slap fight btwn kids haha...but Derek doesn't have an imaginary friend ..remember this wasn't such a polemic as it was slow cooking the hypocrite rabbi. Yeah I know...gotta pretend the aura of Francesca Stavro..s book wasn't open in Derek's head

Very true, if Jesus was Jewish then he worshiped Yahweh. The Torah states came from Mount Seir, the land of Edom and the Sashu. Which there is a 14th century BC hieroglyphics stating that. So it looks like Judaism can possibly be worshiping a late bronze age deity that originated in the trans Jordan on the southeast of the Dead Sea and Sinai.

My response to you would be this: Where is the second witness? And, where is the prophecy surrounding Paul? Interesting how all the other apostles did what Jesus said and made their focus on going to the cities of Israel, but Paul is writing to all kinds of other countries that no other apostle ever wrote to...Jesus said he came for the lost tribes of Israel, but Paul said he is the apostle to the gentiles. Jesus said go only to the cities of Israel to gather the lost sheep and he'd be back before they made it to the last one (didn't happen by the way). But, Paul goes only outside Israel, and when he finally comes back, he gets arrested for teaching against the Torah, and while claiming that all the ceremonial stuff is over and done with, goes and offers sacrifices to prove to those that keep the law that he is under the law. Just like he claimed in his epistles. Summary; I'll lie to whoever I am with if I can convince them through my lies that Jesus is the messiah. So, why on earth would I trust an admitted liar that uses his deceit to trick people into doing and believing things that are found nowhere in the Torah, the prophets, or the writings?

@@benjaminburbank294 I can tell you have never read the Bible carefully. Paul wrote to churches in cities, not to countries. You show a dearth of knowledge.

How can someone dare say Jews don't believe in or accept Jesus Christ. Christianity began with the Jews before spreading to the Gentiles. It's only fallen Jews that reject Jesus. They are hoping the true Messiah is yet to come. That's interesting and funny, though. Don't forget forget the PROPHETS were and the APOSTLES operated under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit. This is breaking up his brain- a spiritless messenger of himself. So, between you and Paul, who should be labeled as really 'WRONG '. The inspired by God or the one operating upon the dictates of his human brain. Don't forget Paul operated on both sides of the divide. First he was employed by the heads of Judaism settings. The Pharisees and the entire leadership then who had the oversight the Torah were satisfied with his job. He continued to impress them until he was arrested by Christ _a shift from the Torah era to the era of the new COVENANT for which Christ is the MEDIATOR. He's served Christ too well till death took him from this world. The priests were impressed with his work and found no faults with him. Christ his new employer too was impressed with his job, so why then do you find fault? It's the duty of the employer to spell out the job description and only he has the power to say per your job title and job description you have woefully failed. So my learned friend has to learn to flow with the PERFECT WILL of God. Remember Jesus is coming soon. It's a bad habit to be a blasphemer. Thank you. Stay blessed.

Are you the demon is this story?

@@michaelhenry1763 How did you twist that into what I said?

I was waiting for Derek to add "Hassenpfeffer incorporated!" 🤣

@@patricktilton5377haha… great show. At least I know what those two words mean now. Lenny and Squiggy bizarrely are the perfect personification of Schlemiel and Schlimazel.

@@kpunkt.klaviermusik”If you’ve seen me, you’ve seen the Father.”

Which makes zero sense. ​@@ericstewart9742

@@kpunkt.klaviermusik Actually, this is referring to Yeshua/Jesus: 2 After two days he will revive us; *on the third day he will restore us,* that we may live in his presence. "On the 3rd day he will restore us" is a clear reference to the Resurrection. And it is this resurrection that provides the path to redemption and salvation for mankind. We separated ourselves from God through sin, since Adam and Eve sinned in the Garden. God sends his Son to reconcile us back to Him, so *"that we may live in His presence"* again. Yeshua is The Suffering Servant of Isaiah 53. God provides for us what we cannot provide for ourselves.

@@kpunkt.klaviermusik Sounds like you read only comic books. I'd stick to them if I were you.

@@kpunkt.klaviermusik The mystery of the Trinity. God is one, but not one dimensional. "Let *US* make man in *OUR* image" - This is God talking.

Beautiful, thank you.

Great comment

While your history is pretty accurate, to say Paul didn't know better is ridiculous, since he was a Pharisee. As such, Paul went through many grueling levels of religious education. Few could make it past the first level. He would have memorized massive amounts of scripture and known the Torah\Tanakh like the back of his hand IN HEBREW. Since only priests and Pharisees were still fluent and literate in Hebrew, because religious texts were recorded in Hebrew. Paul was extremely educated Pharisee, and was literate in Hebrew, Greek and Aramaic. And since we already know that Paul and the Apostles used the Septuagint, we know what their references were and they would not get away with murder. Paul, of all people, would know the scriptures and what books existed & were used back then were still pretty much what was canonized later.

@@williamblack3711 I think you make too much of Paul's credentials. Neither is it obvious that all Pharisaic schools at the time taught the same stuff or adhered strictly to Hebrew in study and teaching. We have no proof even that Paul spoke Hebrew. All his communications were in Greek and all citations he quoted were from Septuagint.

@@zdzislawmeglicki2262 Actually, Paul studied under the famed Gamaliel, and you had to be considered brilliant for that. IN JUDEA in that day there was ONLY ONE Sanhedrin. And the schooling to reach Pharisee level was pretty consistent. Memorizing the Tanakh was required. And even if you think that all Pharisee schools were not the same, or the Tanakh wasn't standard, It DOESN'T MATTER. WE KNOW HE USED THE SEPTUAGINT. So we know what was used, and that it was consistent with the Old Testament/Tanakh that we read today. We also know this. If the Tanakh back then was not pretty much what we have today, then the New Testament of today wouldn't be able to affirm and fulfill the Tanakh/Old Testament so perfectly and consistently. And THAT is an undeniable fact. And yes, we do know that Paul spoke Hebrew. All Pharisees did. That is just a Historical fact. I think you completely underestimate Paul and the exceptional education we KNOW he had. He absolutely was literate in Hebrew as a Pharisee. He absolutely spoke Greek and of course Aramaic. This is just history. Paul isn't the easiest Apostle to understand. Especially since he dealt with such a diverse audience, much more so than the other Apostles, due to his extensive travels. There is a lot more known history than you are letting on.

"Hidden verses." hmmm. So you can make up anything you want! How convenient! 😂 So THAT'S where the talmud/oral torah came from! You can't see it, you can't read it in the Tanakh, but it's in there! Like Praego! 🤣

@@williamblack3711 Perhaps I can save some money by sending "hidden birthday presents"?

@@mdug7224 Especially if you pay with "hidden money." 🙂

@@williamblack3711 🤣

​@@williamblack3711 ref jeremiah 8:8?

Singer does not have love.....only when a camera is on him

To Pepper Mint who replied to me that Rabbi only has love while on camera. I am an atheist & can clearly see & feel the love Rabbi Tovia has for all people ❤️❤️. Open your heart & your mind to see the truth please 🙏🙏. We don’t have to agree but we can be respectful of each other my friend ❤️❤️

@@judyforsyth5782 you can't clearly see anything but what you want to see. Have respect for someone who has experienced tovia singer as the wizard from behind the curtain when it's pulled back. If he was good he would have listened intently and prevented a suicide

@@pepperings I would want to hear his side of this story as well as yours. I’m sorry you have gone through this pain I truly am😢😢. I too have gone through this. Have you ever considered that no matter what Rabbi Tovia said to your loved one it would have ended the same way?? I just know I know love when I see it & I see it in Rabbi Tovia. Have you ever talked to him about this?? Please try!! I will not forget you!! I’ll keep you in my thoughts ❤️❤️. Again I’m sorry 😢😢❤️❤️

Yes. And that doesn't even consider Akhenaten in Egypt.

The why did the rabbis of the talmud/oral torah of the FIRST THOUSAND YEARS all agree that the Suffering Servant was the Messiah? So who was right? And why was Isaiah 53 REMOVED from Yom Kippur, and not even read in the synagogue anymore? And you can't deny that. It's why even religious Jews and even rabbi's IN ISRAEL have never heard of the Suffering servant, or Isaiah 53. And you don't have to believe me. Look at these Native, Hebrew speaking Israeli's being introduced to Isaiah 53 FOR THE FIRST TIME: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/ma2qbKWHr8XPZqc.html Explain that!

Where did you get that nonsense from? You mentioned a few idols that G-D prohibited

Read 'The Origins of Judaism' by Jonatan Adler. There is physical and historical evidence - it is not made up.@@barrys.9040

If you did that then Judaism is far younger than fanatics like Singer will admit. Juat look at the cultist true believer eho responded first. Its so easy for them to deny inconvenient facts in their ignorance.

@@sypherthe297th2 Abraham was the first Jew. What year was he born? People make all kinds of statements without knowing what they are talking about.

@@barrys.9040 No. You're assuming a lot that isn't in evidence by even assuming Abraham actually existed rather than being a figure of mythology. Also, the early Israelite religion shares few similarities with what we would recognize as Judaism. You're engaging in a type of preseantism by contending the religion you know today is what always was. Pretty typical of fanatics honestly. Evidence never enters the equation for you, does it? Well faith is its own prison after all. One day society will be free of all Abrahamists because, regardless of flavor (Christian, Jewish, Muslim), all you bring is hate, destruction, and terror.

I got the vibe that may indeed be his take. However, that doesn't mean he didn't have other insights to benefit from. Rare to find someone who agrees totally with every stance you might have - for example, should a vegan only listen to other vegans?

@@TheGreatAgnostic Did I reply just to you? I intended to post on the main forum. Not competent with this platform :( Well... truly I tell you, a whole chunk of what I typed got lost. Is there a character limit or something? I'm not used to post on KZfaq, darnit.

There is nothing wrong with Church doctrine. If the truth had to constantly be twisted and compromised to accommodate everyone, there would be no truth! If LGBTQ people come to church to find answers, they need to accept what they find. And so do you.

Religion doesn't need "fixing." If "religion" changed it's principles to accommodate everyone's changing opinions, it would be useless. So it's not religion that has to change. It's YOUR HEART. If LGBTQ people come to church looking for answers, then they have to ACCEPT the answers, not try to change them. Or why even bother coming to church, if you don't accept the answers? The truth never changes. And never will, whether you accept it or not. That's WHY it's THE TRUTH.

@@williamblack3711 Society is not behooved to kowtow to every self-proclaimed prophet and priest who writes a book to subjugate people to their own narrow set of laws. Society governs itself through a quorum of ideas that evolve within reason and rationale. The truth changes when it is seen darkly and crudely by those with limited sight. Matters of truth are more clearly weighed by the heart and by wisdom than by those intent on power and a narrow design on self-rule. The schoolmaster is a guide but not the end all for "truth". Matters of the heart are written in the heart.

@@FlockofAngels First strawman: I never mentioned any prophets at all, "self proclaimed" or otherwise. Or priests. 2nd Strawman: who said any book (I assume you mean the Bible) was to "subjugate people" to their own laws? Is not belief in the Bible VOLUNTARY? Who's forcing you into it's "laws?" NO ONE. 3rd strawman: Since when does the "truth" change? If "truth" changes, it was never "a "truth" in the first place. It doesn't depend upon anyone's "dark and crude" perception, limited or not. Truth is seen through the heart and WISDOM, I agree. Government, on the other hand, is intent on narrow designs of power and control as seen by our SWAMP in D.C. and globally. What do "matters of the heart" have to do with your world view, "set of laws" or whatever religion you choose to adhere to? Doesn't common sense and analytical reasoning apply here too? It's not all about "emotion" little one. YOU DEFLECT sir, from the point I made. The Biblical worldview as per the Bible has not changed in thousands of years. It is there for you to choose to follow or not. Billions of people through the centuries adhere to it, AS IS and don't see any reason to alter it. But it is NOT up to you or anyone else to CHANGE the Bible that so many follow. If you don't agree, fine. That is your OPINION and your CHOICE. BUT DON'T FORCE YOUR NARROW & CRUDE VIEWS ON ANYONE ELSE. You are trying to "Control." FOLLOW YOUR OWN SET OF RULES instead of trying to change what others follow. *Which leads to the point I made; that if anyone can come along and change the "rules" then what good are the "rules?" They don't really exist anymore, do they?* Big time straw men and deflections on YOUR part. FAIL. My statements stand. But please do play again.

@@williamblack3711 A "social quorum" is not following your own set of rules. Please read my response more carefully. Society is following the truth deemed acceptable by the consensus of the people who have to live under that "truth". Have you ever even considered that your "truth" is a lie?

No...the Jewish scriptures were directly changed & misquoted.

@@PapaDougly Proof? Singer certainly doesn't show any examples. Just sad lies.

what created Power is the intelligence who developed its own with no feeling. but , except what we think they are ends with more pain..

Spot on!, Jesus had foreseen this and told the disciples that Satan had asked permission to shift them like wheat!

Saul see angel of light

So you think you have to be circumcised to be saved? Mmmm. Interesting. Especially since God clearly states that he will judge the circumcised with the uncircumsized.

Read Galatians chapter three. Then when you get to verse 28, you'll be amazed that Paul said "There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus. Paul never convinced people would become Jews. Also, as you read Galatians, you will also be amazed that Abraham wasn't a Jew nor an Israelite.

@@dougcampbell8379 of course Abraham wasn't an "Israelite"! He was literally Israel's grandfather! Of course he wasn't a "Jew"! He was Judah's great grandfather! 🙄🙄🙄

@@joeyrufo And thus, Paul never tried to convince believers that they were Jews.

@@dougcampbell8379 Abraham and Sarah were Gentiles. 🙂 God didn't choose a nation. HE CHOSE A GENTILE MAN AND HIS GENTILE WIFE.

Yeah, majority of authentic Hebrews know the Bible better than Christians that’s a given

Rabbi Tovia Singer has debated a few that I have seen and he knows the Greek Testament better than the debaters because they had to go to the Bible while he's got a computer brain and knows it like he sees it in front of his eyes.

Tovia is either woefully ignorant of the New Testament, or a total liar. As a matter of fact, he barely knows the Tanakh. IF he even knew the Tanakh, then when he read a New Testament (doubtful), he'd have recognized immediately just how deeply connected the NT is to the Tanakh. You'd have to be totally blind not to see it. OR not know the Tanakh very well. If you know the Tanahk, you'll understand the New Testament. The New Testament completely agrees with, affirms and FULFILLS the Tanakh. It is a seamless continuation of the Tanakh, picking up right where the last prophet Malachi left off, and picks up the genealogy from Abraham to Yeshua. If you reject anything in the New Testament, you reject the Tanakh. And there is no getting around that fact. Sadly, Tovia doesn't understand either. Growing up, I always wondered why our Jewish counterparts never seemed to know the Tanakh as well as their Christian counterparts. I used to think that the Tanakh was different than the Old Testament. Imagine my shock when I realized that they were the EXACT SAME COLLECTION of books! Then I realized why. Our Jewish friends spent all their time in the Talmud/oral Torah. Christians spend ALL their time in the WRITTEN WORD of GOD. The Tanakh and the New Testament. And that is the stone cold truth. If you don't at least understand the Tanakh, you won't get the New Testament either. And vice versa.

@williamblack3711 do you know Hebrew? Why would the Christian Testament be written in Greek and not continue being written in Hebrew? He knows the Bible, both Hebrew and Greek Testament better than most. Your mind is a closed window. Let some air in so you can breathe because you are suffocating.

@@madmanmark8387 The reason no guidance book to humanity has been written for a theological group in Hebrew is because Ezekiel 13 says that will be the case and everything in Hebrew scriptures is 100% true

Nope, just a loony fanatic.

@@john.premose He's neither.

@@john.premose projecting your situation😂😂😂😂

@@Yosaif-israel use some more emojis, that will show me.

@@john.premose I know I put there special for you so you would be able to comprehend

Paul never once contradicted himself. Both Paul and Yeshua were torah observant Jews. Yeshua said outright that he didn't come to demolish the law, but to FULFILL it. Paul never said the law was null and void. What he said was that you can't reconcile to God just by following the law, because no human being would ever be able to perfectly follow it. That is what grace is all about. That was WHY Yeshua willingly went to the cross, and rose again. To provide grace and forgiveness of sins. The only way to the Father is through the Son. The path of redemption and salvation is not following all the laws, but by accepting Yeshua as your Savior that died for your sins, repenting, and asking for forgiveness. When you do this, following the laws comes naturally. Paul is every eloquent, but not the easiest to understand. He was an extremely educated person. As a Pharisee, he would have made it through multiple levels of advanced education, memorized massive amounts of scripture, and been one of the few that still understood Hebrew. The Jews had lost the ability to speak Hebrew. Since the returning exiles, they spoke Aramaic in Judea and Koine Greek as you moved further away from Judea. Only priests and Pharisees still spoke Hebrew because that was how religious texts were recorded. He was also a Roman Citizen and came from an influential family. He was multilingual, and fully literate in Hebrew, Greek and Aramaic. And he didn't write in the common Koine Greek spoken as the common language Paul wrote in the proper Greek style of the Greek Philosophers. So read Paul carefully. No one was the expert in Torah that Paul was, and no one knew the Tanakh better than he.

@@williamblack3711 i can understand Paul quite well. He was observant of the law of Moses while teaching things in opposition to it. He spoke Hebrew to those Pharisees and Sadducees while on trail. It's plainly written in the text. While preaching or teaching that circumcision is of no profit, Paul himself goes on to circumcise Timothy by his own hand. Keep reading and studying my friend, but you'll have to remove the rose colored Christian glasses to see it.

@josephleonardoeamon6198 Actually, you don't understand Paul at all. There are no passages showing Paul is lying or tricking people. Paul preached to a very diverse audience, obviously. All having different backgrounds, levels of knowledge, and cultural norms. Are you sure you have READ a New Testament? You seem quite ignorant of the NT, nor do you seem aware of the culture and history. What Paul is trying to convey is called being *CULTURALLY SENSITIVE.* As any teacher knows, you can't reach all your students with the exact same methods. Paul had to use different examples to reach different cultures. And of course Paul would not renounce Judaism. He was Torah observant, as was Yeshua. And Messianic Judaism *IS* pure Judaism. True Judaism. It's not a different religion. In reality, it's the Pharisees that perverted Judaism and created a "new" religion with the corrupt & arrogant Pharisee's invention of the "oral torah" which is NOT in the Tanakh. Rabbinical Judaism strays away from the Tanankh, NOT Messianic Judaism. Paul never ever contradicted Yeshua. You show me one single verse where he does. I guarantee you cannot. I think you need to actually READ the New Testament so you don't argue from a position of ignorance. YOU are the biased one, my friend. Totally. You need to get rid of that bias and antipathy if you are going to be intellectually honest.

@@josephleonardoeamon6198 You obviously don't understand Paul at all. Show me one example of Paul teaching things in opposition of the Torah. There are none but you can try. So what if Paul spoke Hebrew to the Pharisees & Sadducees? What's wrong with that? And I doubt Paul spoke to the members of the Sanhedrin while "on the trail" since they did not travel. You are confused my friend. Paul taught that it's not physical circumcision that counts, but circumcision of the heart. But there is nothing wrong with circumcision per se. No contradictions there. Keep reading and studying my friend. You'll get it someday, when wisdom softens your heart and you see the truth.

Now that's a fact! An artifact of the Hasmonean dynasty.

is at least 400 - 500 years older. still significantly older. and according to my opinion and I do respect other opinions. I do think Christianity is the bastard son of Judaism. just like protestant is the bastard son of catholicism

" Judaism is not much older than Christianity" - which of course depends upon what you mean by "Judaism". The returnees from Babylon had their religion - call it what exactly? And their ancestors in the highlands of Canaan had their religion(s) - call it what exactly? YHWH-ism likely is pre-Babylonian but how far back is unclear.

@@TheDanEdwards call it what you want, but it wasn't Judaism

@@mortalkombaty7960 nope, more like 150 years older.

This scripture alone should have you running to Hashem if you really understood Tanakh.

I would say either the JPS ( Jewish Publication Society) or the NRSVUE ( New Revised Standard Version updated edition)

That's a perfect analogy for all religions at least the ones where the people take their mythology seriously.

Yeah. It's jarring when you consider what he DOES believe.

Do you remember the scene with Penny in TBBT? "Oh, crystals are nonsense. But, voodoo! You don't want to mess with THAT!" 😂 😂 😂.

Actually it's like listening to a Spiderman reader talk about how ludicrous Superman posing in a pink spiderman costume is. Big difference.

@@Deepskies268😂

Only someone who never read a New Testament would think that singer knows it. He is woefully uneducated in the New Testament. Which is kinda scary because the NT is so embedded in the Tanakh that you can't really know one without the other. singer knows neither. Nada, zip, zilch. Sad really.

ROFL, name them. It's the other way around

@@barrys.9040 ..if your too lazy to go searching, stay with what you like bro...heboos lie constantly

​@@barrys.9040 Circumcision and the story of Abraham. Exodus/Moses. Adam/eve/serpent. Ezekiel Etc. These all have older origins within other cultures. Mythvision has some compelling videos on it if you enjoy your time here.

Yes Christianity borrowed from Greek mythology. Zeus impregnated a bunch of earth women. Hmm sounds familiar about Jesus's birth.

11th Tablet of the Epic of Gilgamesh @@barrys.9040

Genghis was inclusive in keeping conquered warlords in power. They just had to provide him lots of women.

The Jews usually dub Paul as an antisemite.

James the Just didn't lose, he lead the followers of The Way (Yeshua ha Deh Rehkh) for 29 years in Jerusalem until his murder. His importance in this religion has been effectively and purposely written out of history by early Christian Church fathers.

@@garyp5437 Summary. He lost.

Paul opposed Judaism. Today's Christianity is a hellenised religion and the reason why Paul was successful? In his religion you don't need to do anything. No food law, no circumcision, nothing, just believe. Its like earning money for not doing anything vs a full time job.

Get over yourself.

@@humanistreformationThe "Son of Man" whom Jesus is said to have foreseen before that generation would pass away was NOT himself -- it was TITUS, the son of Vespasian (who was the 'Man' in the phrase "Son of Man"). Read CAESAR'S MESSIAH by Joseph Atwill. Jesus was typologically modeled on Titus, his fictitious career back-dated 40 years from the time of the Jewish War by the Flavian propagandists who concocted the New Testament.