You Won't Look at Skyrim the Same After Hearing This Crazy Theory

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3 жыл бұрын

In our latest Elder Scrolls video we explore a crazy Skyrim theory regarding Ysgramor and his mythical past.
The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim is an open world action role-playing video game developed by Bethesda Game Studios and published by Bethesda Softworks. It is the fifth main installment in The Elder Scrolls series and was released worldwide on November 11, 2011. The game's main story revolves around the player character and their quest to defeat Alduin the World-Eater, a dragon who is prophesied to destroy the world. The videogame is set two hundred years after the events of Oblivion, and takes place in the fictional province of Skyrim.
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@FudgeMuppet 3 жыл бұрын

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@williamlazenby314 3 жыл бұрын

Fantastic theory. You guys are so creative. Bethesda should hire all of you as writers.

@morrigannibairseach1211 3 жыл бұрын

If Alduin and Shor are brothers just as Akatosh and Lorkhan are brothers and men descend from the wandering Ehlnafey who sided with Lorkhan/Shor and in a sense became his children when Kyne breathed them onto the world then doesnt it follow that Shor was a dragon too and the reason Paarthurnax was needed was as a kind of surrogate with the power to teach them an innate ability from their draconic ancestry?

@dingle1563 2 жыл бұрын

You guys have made epic content for years. Much love

@TatteredBeanie 2 жыл бұрын

Where are the links to Kirkbrides works.

@willforbes5995 2 жыл бұрын

So when are you going to turn this idea into a Skyrim build?

@NieroshaiTheSable 3 жыл бұрын

My take on Elder Scrolls lore right now: 1. Everyone is lying, and 2. Everyone is correct anyway.

@lunaticscribbles6016 3 жыл бұрын

Basically. Its because of timelines and the dragon breaks. And because constant dev swapping and forgetting old concepts they never got back to

@alchemysaga3745 3 жыл бұрын

@@lunaticscribbles6016 That and belief literally makes or remakes reality in Elder Scrolls.

@swaggynator3879 3 жыл бұрын

Dragonbreak baby

@arempy5836 3 жыл бұрын

"Nothing is True, Everything is Permitted" - Hassan I Sabbah

@RelativelyBest 3 жыл бұрын

Pretty much, yeah. Mythology in Elder Scrolls can be allegorical while at the same time still being more or less correct. Like the story of how Malacath was created from the remains of the elven god Trinimac after being devoured by Boethia. At one point Malakath heard this story while disguised as a mortal and replied: "You people are always so literal-minded."

@ShadowSpirit9 3 жыл бұрын

Drew must be an aspect of Hermaeus Mora. The forbidden knowledge he provides is all too tempting and will lead us down a path into something all the casuals will call madness.

@christopher1821 3 жыл бұрын

If seeking the forbidden knowledge is madness…call me Sheogorath 😎

@cpt.arctourus7950 3 жыл бұрын

@@christopher1821 shegorath the skooma cat this one has cheese

@9nxt 3 жыл бұрын

Or just yet another Skyrim playthrough rollplaying again

@BraddahSpliff 3 жыл бұрын

I seek Chim. I need all the knowledge.

@SoraTsubasa 2 жыл бұрын

He's Mantling

@Anna464 3 жыл бұрын

This is honestly a really solid theory. How or why dragons would become the Nords is a hard one to tackle but absolutely fascinating.

@MapShiba 3 жыл бұрын

Perhaps they were cursed by the Gods of the Snow Elves for genociding all of the snow Elves. Nords could have reluctantly buried such a fact out of shame and pride, burying their dragon past to forever be lost in history so it would seem that they never fell from grace.

@LiorVolf 3 жыл бұрын

The video explains it how a dragon became human: by losing its divinity during the creation.

@calebcoatsworth8800 3 жыл бұрын

Maybe the same/similar way the companions are able to transform into werewolfs

@Vnigma17 3 жыл бұрын

Could be, that they relinquished their powers. Only in a sense to become mortal. As all nords would return to Soverngard when they died. And the cycle would forever continue. Almost like a sense of Rebirth, or Reincarnation. Though it could also be something of a Ritual. A Dragon, gives up their powers, and aspect. And in turn is reborn a Mortal, sent to challenge the world, and Dragons with their Bare Hands. Doing so would in turn, let them achieve a greater Power, and Understanding when reborn as a Dragon.

@BraddahSpliff 3 жыл бұрын

@@MapShiba You mean for their revenge on the Snow Elves trying to kill them off first? Why everybody just skips over this fact so that they can just call the Nords evil racists is a problem with how people are interpreting the lore.

@sharathnavada3645 3 жыл бұрын

I don't understand why Drew keeps apologising for his rambling. He can read a telephone address book and I'd listen.

@michaelpettersson4919 3 жыл бұрын

Hey, those are ancient relics in this era.

@x0Tassadar0x 3 жыл бұрын

Between Drew and Morgan Freeman, I would listen to anything they were saying and be happy about it. Even a death warrant would sound like an eargasm.

@devonmarcus101 3 жыл бұрын

100%

@Tronscrolls 3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, His voice is so confident and passionate. I could listen to him talk for hours, The fact that i get to hear him talk about one of my favorite if not my favorite series is amazing.

@BlibbaBlob 3 жыл бұрын

Yeah and after that you can page him to call your flip phone.

@drafo789 3 жыл бұрын

This is honestly an amazing theory. It leads me to a very significant question: why did the events of TES V: Skyrim happen? Discussions between TLD and Paarthurnax touch on this, but by defeating Alduin, did TLD indeed break the natural cycle of kalpas? Did they prevent the next world from being born? Paarthurnax says they may simply balance the forces that work to quicken the end, but without Alduin, how can the end come at all? Arngeir theorizes that Alduin may be allowed to return to fulfill his destiny as World-Eater, but this seems unlikely to me. If that were the case, why would the gods send TLD to stop him in the first place? My theory is that Alduin himself is at fault. While many characters call him World-Eater and claim that his return is the beginning of the end, Alduin himself never says he has come to destroy the world. I think Alduin forsook his duty as World-Eater and chose to rule in tyranny over this world rather than destroy it and make way for the new kalpa. Ironically, by defeating Alduin, TLD actually quickened the end of the world, just as Paarthurnax alluded. "Those who try to hasten the end, may delay it. Those who work to delay the end, may bring it closer." In reality, Alduin wanted to maintain the current world and lord over it as god-king. By defeating him, TLD made way for a new World-Eater, one who would not shirk their duty, but would bring about the end that must occur, ushering in the birth of the new kalpa.

@UnswimmingFishYT 3 жыл бұрын

The next game is probably going to be the Thalmor trying to undo Nirn with the Adamantine Tower, so if that is what they do with it, you could say whoever runs them is doing Alduin's work. But since you don't absorb his power upon killing him, I think he's still around somewhere, waiting to reform and come back to do more.

@StoicDivinity 3 жыл бұрын

TLD says TLDR

@richardhaegeler6858 3 жыл бұрын

well every dragonborn would have been there to kick alduins fangs in. but .. alduin was not absorbed. and the last dragon born. might mean akatosh will not save the world anymore? maybe. as he had manifested one last time in oblivion?

@bobinski1996 3 жыл бұрын

I don’t remember where I heard it from but from all the years of talking about this game I could’ve sworn I heard that Alduin was just a small fragment of himself and his true form is lost in time. Like pieces of him leaking from the elder scroll of time and forming into smaller forms of himself in order to get a foot hold in Tamriel. Some shit like that I’m terrible at explaining things but I remember something like that

@UnswimmingFishYT 3 жыл бұрын

@@richardhaegeler6858 In Oblivion, it wasn't actually Akatosh's power being used. It was the Amulet of Kings that allowed him to take physical form like that, and even then, he needed Martin Septim as an avatar, taking advantage of his dragon blood to do so. All of the spirits involved in making Nirn, aside from Magnus and the Magna-Ge, lost most of their power, so Akatosh, Mara, Zenithar, Julianos, Stendarr, Dibella, Kynareth, and depending on his origin, maybe Arkay, all have very limited power. Arkay may have been mortal orginally, granted divinity by Mara, so if he is on the same level as the rest, he'd still be limited by her level of power, which isn't much, compared to the Daedra, or probably Talos, since he also wasn't around to lose power making Nirn.

@sam_v_murray6037 3 жыл бұрын

what if the atmorans were dragons and had their souls eaten by other dragons. and the depiction of kyne breathing them into the throat of the world is her giving them new souls which transformed them into men

@sarosp9330 3 жыл бұрын

That would be amazing

@GhostoftheTenthEye 3 жыл бұрын

i actually love this theory a lot

@malachigamerguy3163 3 жыл бұрын

Yes and no I like the part about the dragons however if we're thinking Merithic Era or sometime after the dragons were waring men, or sometime later when dragons were being hunted by blades under Emperor remans rule but I like your imagination I just find the dragon and Kinereth thing a bit less Canon unless I'm mistaken and certain similar things were expressed in books or scenes on one of the games I've missed then I'd love to here it lol 😉 but personal opinion I don't know If Kyne would've breathed them on the throat of the world however that's smart because you could come to think of parthurnaux and him helping the humans therefore there actually were seeable and explained connections between P, the gray beards and Kyne but from me fathoming it I'd say kyne would've had Parth Allie with men in order to create a balance in the war between dragons and mainly men of Skyrim but who knows maybe Kyne had more of an Agenda or heavy role to play than I contemplate lol good discussion.

@malachigamerguy3163 3 жыл бұрын

Didn't realize I hit dislike at first lol

@Mankorra_Gomorrah 3 жыл бұрын

Would make sense considering only Akatosh would be able to make dragons. He could have refused for any number of reasons but Kyne aided them, again for any number of reasons, and gave them the best bodies she could which happened to be human.

@evo_is_confused 3 жыл бұрын

I love that we can still talk about this 10 years later

@bhambabean1192 3 жыл бұрын

And i still feel like theres more to uncover

@micahkafka8416 3 жыл бұрын

Sign of some pro-level worldbuilding

@brownie43212 3 жыл бұрын

The elder scrolls 6, with it's 10 year total production time better be the fucking be all end all RPG and with true replayability, branching story lines, shifting world state and destructible environments. Basically building the infrastructure and platform for a true 10 year game, not even talking about modders. Unfortunately Skyrim has been propped up by a freakishly large amount of high quality mods as the game in vanilla form is sorely lacking even in engine and mechanic terms. The game could have been so much more fleshed out if they'd pushed it back 6 months, but oh well. I just hope that instead of pushing TES6 out on some arbitrary holiday release date (11-11-24 or whatever) that they really flesh every single thing they possibly can and just go for broke. Because it's certainly a game that if they pull off, it will be truly earth shattering and talked about in the same vein as legendary Skyrim/Witcher 3.

@phutureproof 3 жыл бұрын

@@brownie43212 It's bethesda and by the sounds of things your hopes are waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy too high. Be ready for bugs and barely working launch, free paid mods etc etc

@catzor4795 3 жыл бұрын

@@brownie43212 No, it's even in the works yet. Todd said it's in "designing" phase which would mean they're still conceptualizing it. And knowing Bethesda, their maximum dev time is 3-4 years since they'll just reuse the same engine anyways.

@MizanQistina 3 жыл бұрын

"I am not saying that they're dragons, but they're dragons"

@kingaragornii9940 3 жыл бұрын

Basically. Fundamentally.

@art3misxp784 2 жыл бұрын

That’s some resident evil logic right there. As long as you replace the word dragons with the word zombies 😂

@thebread9874 2 жыл бұрын

@@art3misxp784 or aliens

@ookie4179 2 жыл бұрын

They’re definitely not dragoffs

@arwahsapi 3 жыл бұрын

It's insane how Fudge is still making content about skyrim since his first upload 8 years ago

@SecretSexSkeleton 3 жыл бұрын

It's like.. 3 guys, but whatever..

@arempy5836 3 жыл бұрын

@@SecretSexSkeleton The Three-in-One God. MICSCODRE

@alexryherd9810 3 жыл бұрын

I've aged skyrim for a long time and I still don't know where they find all this literature and backstoreis

@wowomah6194 3 жыл бұрын

@@SecretSexSkeleton "The Ubersreich 5! Or 4, it doesn't matter! "

@VicksasT 3 жыл бұрын

When you love something, it’s easy.

@achristiananarchist2509 3 жыл бұрын

Paarthunax: Dragons are eternal, unchanging, and unyielding. Also Paarthunax: I've changed... Edit: so since this comment is still getting angry replies over a year later, I want to clarify in general terms that I always let paarthunax live, but the normal logic of assuming his transformation will last forever is kind of silly. My own logic hinges on how draconic immortality actually works. People act like if you fail to kill paarthunax now there will be no one to deal with him if he does turn tyrant since you are the last dragonborn, but that isn't really true. Normal people can totally kill dragons, hence the dragon bones waking up everywhere in skyrim. They just can't make them stay dead. Dead dragons don't just wake up on their own though, hence why they've been gone all this time. They need to be revived by a more powerful dragon. So, if paarthunax turns evil in a thousand years, some hero can rise up to put him in the ground, where he will stay until Alduin comes back to eat the world, at which point a tyranical paarthunax is the least of your problems. I'm not going to eat someone's soul just because they might become a manageable threat someday, but I'm not going to pretend that him becoming a threat isn't realistic. It's not only realistic, but likely. It's just not a justification for complete annihilation.

@damyenhockman5440 3 жыл бұрын

Except for he hasn't. Even now he feels the pull of destruction. But which is better, to have been born good, or to have overcome one's innate evil through constant struggle? Paarthurnax is the latter. As dragons are eternal, so too are his efforts to not succumb to his darker urges.

@achristiananarchist2509 3 жыл бұрын

@@damyenhockman5440 But he hasn't always been struggling to overcome his "innate evil". He didn't at one time, and engaged in the same behavior as the rest of the dragons, and then says he changed his ways.

@pulsefel9210 3 жыл бұрын

@@damyenhockman5440 dammit, dont make killing him sound like a good idea....

@marcus8710 3 жыл бұрын

I hope he emerges in the next calpa as a good pure soul.

@damyenhockman5440 3 жыл бұрын

@@achristiananarchist2509 he changed his ways, but is still the same dragon. He made a decision to go against who he is, but it did not change who he is. As an immortal, he has forever, and over a long enough timespan one's true nature will always win out. That's why there's occasion with taming animals where the animal, after many years of getting along just fine, will kill their owner. It may not be in this Kalpa, but he will return to his old ways.

@bennusmagnus5277 3 жыл бұрын

Ysgramor does sound like a shout when you compare it to other shouts.

@JesusCheeseburger 3 жыл бұрын

Ysgramor works but I think all dragon names are three syllables. Yngol doesn't

@THENGSandSTUFF 3 жыл бұрын

“Ys” “Gra” “Mor”

@smillphy4756 3 жыл бұрын

@@JesusCheeseburger alduin

@thanus6636 3 жыл бұрын

@@smillphy4756 “Al” “Du” “In”

@JesusCheeseburger 3 жыл бұрын

@@smillphy4756 Al-Du-In. All dragon names are like that: Paar-Thur-Nax Mir-Mul-Nir is the first one fought Sah-Lok-Nir is fought at Kynesgrove O-Dah-Viing is captured at Dragonsreach Vul-Thur-Yol is fought in Blackreach I'm pretty sure most translate into something in the dragon tongue, except for maybe Alduin. So Ysgramor could be a dragon name, but Yngol isn't.

@georgemurdock7670 3 жыл бұрын

That in "todays" story ysgramor or the companions were only described as human could be due the dragon wars. That the founder and most important nord in ancient times was a dragon would give the dragon cult a lot of unwanted legitimacy, so they rewrote the storys to purge it from hints that he was a dragon.

@TheCerbari 3 жыл бұрын

absolutely, that makes a lot of sense. the only issue is that you literally meet ysgramor in the game and corpes of his son yngol. there is a lot that can make this theory work, and before skyrim i might have been convinced but now there is just way too much contradicting it

@chancethewrapper3557 3 жыл бұрын

@Jacob Wilson would a cat be a man if you percieve it to be?

@alericantonelli4656 3 жыл бұрын

@Jacob Wilson belief is a powerful thing. Besides, who is to say he wasn't able to polymorph into a human?

@raymondirani4812 3 жыл бұрын

@Jacob Wilson people thought dragons were legends, that didn't work

@jasonfurumetarualkemisto5917 3 жыл бұрын

@@chancethewrapper3557 What about the Khajiit.

@scitso12 3 жыл бұрын

Drew is killing it lately.

@ThePhenix1 3 жыл бұрын

I love all three, but Drew is my favorite muppet

@asterozoan 3 жыл бұрын

@@ThePhenix1 Big same. Drew is always excellent

@teethelowlife5879 3 жыл бұрын

Drew is the true story teller. My favorite of the three. But Scott and Michael are really good too.

@MustardMasterX 3 жыл бұрын

Drew is the total package and it’s honestly unfair.

@karolfortuna8522 3 жыл бұрын

I love them all, but if i'd have to differentiate fudgemuppet, then Scott is it's face, Michael the brain and Drew is the mouth/tongue. During podcasts, combined they create the true and only Godhead :p

@mybossonline-id6096 3 жыл бұрын

Whenever I hear that the High Elves are descended almost directly from the Aedra and the Argonians were gifted great power from the Hist which are also believed to be Daedric I feel like they should should fighting a lot more aggressively, they're like complete opposites, would love to see them fight a little more in the future

@vanDaalstad 3 жыл бұрын

the thing with the Argonians is that they are extremely isolationist with only a handful of exceptions (with spectacular results) in-universe very few people know all that much about them or the Hist, which I imagine has contributed to them avoiding more direct attention from the Thalmor, although since the Thalmor also like to work in the shadows, who knows how much is going on while were were in Skyrim

@songbird6414 3 жыл бұрын

Maybe the fact that they don’t fight is hinting at how the hist ARENT daedric in nature(I personally don’t believe they are, it just doesn’t fit to me).

@aidyplays1013 3 жыл бұрын

This assumption is most likely incorrect, but aren't the Argonians part of the aldmeri dominion, same with High Elves and Khajiit? So it would be a civil war if that happened.

@BigPanda096 3 жыл бұрын

@@vanDaalstad The Numidum couldn't do shit to Blackmarsh, the Altimer aren't gonna take the argonions over. I don't think anyone can. When the Hist detect threats they call Argonne back and enhance them to the point tha a small amount of Argonions infiltrated Oblivion and caused so much damage the daddy's said "nah fuck this" and closed their own portals off. The argonians also have the greatest environmental advantage you can have. Logically speaking they can't be beaten in their home land unless you burn all of blackmarsh to the ground, but the hist can stop that so idk how well that would work.

@mygetawayart 3 жыл бұрын

@@aidyplays1013 no, the Argonians have for the most part of their history enjoyed a high degree of independence. Even during the third era, the Empire didn't bother absorbing and transforming Black Marsh, they actually respected their culture for the most part, like they did for the Khajit. The Dunmer on the other hand, have constantly made war and enslaved the Argonians, so have the Nords (which is one of the key reasons why the Ebonheart Pact in ESO is so weird).

@spider-spectre 3 жыл бұрын

That "is your ma or pa the dragon?" question suddenly has a lot more weight

@CD-vg4hl 3 жыл бұрын

Everytime i hear any skyrim music in the beginning, i just immediately want to install the game, and spend a whole week downloading all my mods before doing another playthrough again... its a problem.

@nolankanski9116 3 жыл бұрын

Modding it is kind of the best part. I have lots of fun imagining how mods will change my game. More fun than actually playing it, I'd say.

@Sevren_ 3 жыл бұрын

@@nolankanski9116 I think I’ve spent more time modding the game this entire month then actually playing it

@ceedott 3 жыл бұрын

can relate lol

@louthinator 2 жыл бұрын

there is a program out there called wabbajack that lets you download and install modlists pretty easily, granted they are pre-built ones that fit to other people's enjoyments but if you know a lot about modding you can use it as a baseline to build your own list from it.

@SadChimchar 2 жыл бұрын

They really nailed the soundtrack in the game goddamn.

@666dreamboat 3 жыл бұрын

Me: I don't click on bait titles Fudgemuppet: now you do

@kvb_4117 3 жыл бұрын

facts

@luckyjedi429 3 жыл бұрын

I’ve had the exact thought. If I were to see this on another channel, I would roll my eyes, but since it’s FudgeMuppet, I can’t wait to watch it.

@cactuscoe9096 3 жыл бұрын

@@F_Du_Sea huh?????

@darthxerox15 3 жыл бұрын

Only channel that does click bait style titles right lol

@ImSamhel 3 жыл бұрын

@SirTayluh 3 жыл бұрын

You know, this theory makes you wonder if ALL man are like this, since we know redguards are from the last kalpa. What are the odds men in general are from the last kalpa, and thats why they have an altered view of those gods, and the elves are from this one, which is why they believe the way they do.

@YouTubdotCub 3 жыл бұрын

This theory slaps and also makes Bretons very interesting as people of two kalpas...

@arempy5836 3 жыл бұрын

We don't know that Redguards are from the last kalpa.

@SirTayluh 3 жыл бұрын

@@arempy5836 The Walkabout? Them learning how to do it?? That's a thing.

@arempy5836 3 жыл бұрын

@@SirTayluh What I'm saying is that it isn't confirmed. We don't "know". I myself don't think the Redguards themselves all came from a past kalpa. I think this is just their knowledge of kalpas and that there is a way to survive the kalpas by going to the far shores. It's something a person can achieve. I think the redguard are echos of past kalpas.

@SirTayluh 3 жыл бұрын

@@arempy5836 Right, but how do they know it works if no one has done it. Even yourself saying they are echoes of them admits on some level that they as a race in this kalpa come from that. Regardless of what you think they mean by the walkabout, what they say about the walkabout is very literal, and while yes, its not proven, that's kind of par for the course in this universe. I trust the concept straight from it more than just someone telling me that they think that they are echoes. It is, after all, only a theory on both sides, but them being from a past kalpa is much more generally accepted.

@thisfatgirlruns6710 3 жыл бұрын

FudgeMuppet: Intro starts Drew:Speaks Me: Ahhhhhhh

@shalimarfox9441 3 жыл бұрын

My exact reaction, hahaha!

@jbowen4557 3 жыл бұрын

It's so cool to me that as I'm playing through Skyrim for the first time, people who have played the game for years are still discussing it. Who knows how long it will be until we are blessed with another game like this

@babygurleatsshickennuggits4201 3 жыл бұрын

There's elder scrolls online but I don't see anyone really talk about it

@BURPLEpriest 3 жыл бұрын

@@babygurleatsshickennuggits4201 personally i love ESO

@GoldenOrderBS 2 жыл бұрын

Well, elder scrolls 6 is coming Nov 2022. Hype dude.

@silvasilva6080 2 жыл бұрын

@@GoldenOrderBS what?

@GoldenOrderBS 2 жыл бұрын

@@silvasilva6080 Yea ESVl is coming. Dunno when trailers are coming tho. Don't quote me though, lmao. This is just shit I found online.

@theULTIMATElife50 3 жыл бұрын

When it comes to elves, Magnus makes much more sense as their progenitor. My theory is that every act the elves attribute to Auriel was done by Magnus and was done to undermine the divinity of Akatosh, Shor, and the men that worshiped them. Magnus and the early elves resented Akatosh and Shor for "stealing" their divinity what better revenge then to steal the divinity of their enemy.

@SuperLumianaire 3 жыл бұрын

Ooooooh! I like that.

@thalmoragent9344 3 жыл бұрын

Well, Magnus is the only Aedra/Et'Ada to be wholey seperate from Mundus. Sure he helped a bit, but he was able to escape before the other Elven gods could. So really, Magnus is the only Elven God that has his full power and can reside fully in Aetherius, so maybe he's the one that, (while Auriel is now dormant like the other Aedra) is sort of directly watching and trying to help when he can, although I guess he doesn't want to run the risk of heading to Mundus and then getting stuck there if he stays too long.

@malachigamerguy3163 3 жыл бұрын

Exactly there's a sort of relation that can be seen. the Aedra and daedra alot of the time seem to be both counter parts and cores of each other. you could actually say that because of the thalmors and other Aldmeri that spited the fact that a man was decended to God hood not the blood of a God or Aedra but a deity like patron to all man warriors of Tamriel and lord of governance for doing what he did with the Numidium an so on but I absolutely love your belief on that cuz you could also say that magnus was giving Ancano an edge against men of tamriel considering how almost unbeatable he'd be from taking control of the Eye of Magnus with all his former affinity for magic period being a high elf and having achieved balance with the path to Alaxon possibly through his younger yrs.

@thalmoragent9344 3 жыл бұрын

@@malachigamerguy3163 Well, to be fair, Ancano didn't seem like he knew exactly what he was doing. He didn't have the Staff of Magnus and he was just sort of winging it. The Psyjic Order has mostly Mer in it, and I imagine that, other than the Snow Elves, the Psyjic would be the best people to handle and care for it. Granted, the Thalmor are sort of getting ahead of themselves in the long scheme, they gotta play it smarter, even if they've been doing well so far. But yeah, Magnus may have to take the Reigns for Auriel, since Magnus is likely more "awake" in Aetherius, not asleep like Auriel is now in Mundus. But I still don't agree that Magnus is the main/progenitor to Elven kind, I'm pretty sure that it's undisputed that Auriel is the God King of the Aldmeri Pantheon, just that Magnus is also very powerful

@eddardstark6554 3 жыл бұрын

@@thalmoragent9344 Love this conversation, but what do you mean by Auriel is “asleep” in Mundus? I was under the impression that he ascended to Aetherius after the Convention at the Adamantine Tower. He was redeemed in a sense after defeating Lorkhan and was then allowed to join Magnus, Anuiel, and the Magne Ge in Aetherius. Is he asleep as in he doesn’t care too much of the affairs or mortals? PS: I’m under the impression that Anu, Anuiel, Auriel, Magnus, and Akatosh, are all individual beings, despite the paradoxical belief that Auriel and Akatosh are one in the same. My theory is that Auriel is the Elven god who is descended from Anu himself, yet Akatosh is simply an Aedra, albeit the most powerful of them all. After Auriel left the Mortal Realm, he left it up to Akatosh to control time after the Dawn Era. Haha, sorry for the can of worms, but thus is the Elder Scrolls lore. I just want to make sure I understand it correctly.

@darrelbryant8632 3 жыл бұрын

The 4 priests at the throat of the world are dragons. Their robes are scales and when Alduwiin dies you see them flying around the monestary. You are the only one in their home.

@robertfaucher3750 3 жыл бұрын

Aldu-weiner

@thearbender5529 3 жыл бұрын

Nah bro, thems gandalf and the graybeards.

@du2981 3 жыл бұрын

Actually no, they are in the room where the Empire and the Stormcloaks made a truce.

@thearbender5529 3 жыл бұрын

And also I killed those dragons, they are not Arngeir, Wulfgar, Einarth, and Borri. Or else the graybeards would be dead, which they were not, but Parthrunaax is tho.

@y2oducky 3 жыл бұрын

@@thearbender5529 you monster

@MrDUneven 3 жыл бұрын

There is a story from Akavir that one of their kings became a dragon. Or tiger dragon, if there is a difference. So maybe there is a way for mortals to become dragons, whatever that means.

@workingstiff0586 3 жыл бұрын

Are you blending MK and Skyrim?? A tiger dragon? Really?? ]explanation [ Goro = Draco Shokan Kintaro = Tigrar Shokan

@workingstiff0586 3 жыл бұрын

Where dafuq can I find that story? I really want to read it

@MrDUneven 3 жыл бұрын

@@workingstiff0586 elderscrolls. fandom.com/wiki/Mysterious_Akavir "Ka Po' Tun is the "Tiger-Dragon's Empire." The cat-folk here are ruled by the divine Tosh Raka, the Tiger-Dragon."

@workingstiff0586 3 жыл бұрын

@@MrDUneven appreciate ya

@Para1122 3 жыл бұрын

Well, Martin Septim became a dragon

@firedbones11realvids 3 жыл бұрын

speculative, yes. But it makes me wonder if the last Dragonborn can achieve a form of Draco Chrysalis themself. I mean, they are dragonborn so they might be able to alter their bodies further to become as timeless as the very beings they were born to kill. Even becoming one if possible...

@michaelpettersson4919 3 жыл бұрын

New games tend to want to get rid of the hero fton the last game. Either the Dragonborn ends up like Miraak in Apocrypha or perhaps make the transition into becoming a dragon. Since dragons are genderless this would allow for the former Dragonborn to show up as a guestartist in the next gsme regardless of race or gender prior to the transition.

@theazureknight9399 3 жыл бұрын

@@michaelpettersson4919 Well, since the next game will probably take place hundreds of years in the future, I'd say the most likely scenario is that the last dragonborn will be long dead. And as such, i doubt that he'll ever show up again the franchise. That being said, there is still the matter of which entity will get his soul. Who has the strongest pull? Sithis? Nocturnal? Hermaeus Mora? Akatosh? Hircine? Molag Bal? Bethesda will probably leave this mess for each player to solve in their own headcanon.

@christopher1821 3 жыл бұрын

The real question is what they’re going to make canon as far as the civil war/Thalmor debacle. I still find it so strange that they left such a huge looming conflict unresolved. Kind of lame if we don’t get to do anything about the Thalmor and they’re already gone by the next game. I assume they’ll just have the LDB help the empire and then disappear, maybe go explore Atmora, like the Nerevarine supposedly going to Akavir

@Hearstbane 3 жыл бұрын

@@christopher1821 I believe that It's already canon that the imperial empire won the civil war in Skyrim. As for the thalmor war I don't know.

@curtisking8393 3 жыл бұрын

@@Hearstbane isn't it canon that the dragonborn is Nord? Is he not powerful enough to turn the tide in the stormcloaks favour as he would likely join them

@bhambabean1192 3 жыл бұрын

“Colovian tinfoil helm and a handfull of grains from your salt pile” 👏👏👏🙌

@sable7942 3 жыл бұрын

Colovian tinfoil hat firmly on! I sometimes imagine Drew as a visiting Daedralogist in some college in Tamriel giving lectures like this one to the shock and horror of those attending. Good stuff.

@jairzeuske9885 3 жыл бұрын

Taking all of this as literal canon, which it isn't, how would this account for the Nord's existence on Tamriel before Ysgramor's return with his companions? Kirkbride's list of companions references the Night of Tears, so the Return can't be the first time the Nords had crossed over from Lyg. Would their return to Atmora after the sacking of Sarthaal actually be the Nords moving backwards in the kalpic cycle to return to Lyg and rally their forces? How would that be possible if Lyg was destroyed? If the companions truly were dragons, would they then be so decoupled from linear time that they can not only move forward infinitly, but also transition backward through kalpas? Or maybe Lyg isn't necessarily backwards, it's just "adjacent" as it's described, so an sufficiently timeless entity can travel there.

@fodspeed 3 жыл бұрын

Maybe it's just that ysgramor never did survive, it always seemed odd to me that elves killed everyone and let ysgramor and his son survive, maybe they died, And Dragon Nords came from other calpa, were yielded as return of ysgramor.

@TheCerbari 3 жыл бұрын

@@fodspeed What about Azidal? He came with Ysgramor and had his family in sarthaal. He was studying from the elven races when sarthaal was sacked. later he enchanted the weapons of ysgramor and the 500 companions. Jair Zeuske raises some very good points. and you would have to basically remove so much canon lore for this theory to work i just dont see it being true. it is a cool fun theory but from my point of view simply not true

@Practitioner_of_Diogenes 3 жыл бұрын

I'd see Lyg as a Kalpa older than Atmora. As it stands, it's as such: Lyg -> Yokuda -> Atmora -> Tamrial -> Akavri This is because Lyg when discussed comes off as the oldest place in Mundus, despite the only deity having any connection to it being a Daedric Princess, who was created there rather than creating it. Yokuda was a previous Kalpa that sank to the bottom of the ocean; it was a Kalpa that ended, and based on the info given, ended before the Atmorans showed up in Skyrim, as such, Atmora, if it is actually another Kalpa, but probably is, as I'm going at it next, wasn't just ready to end its Kalpic period. Atmora, based on all the info given to us about the place after people stopped coming from it is a place completely covered in ice and snow and said to be "frozen in time". IF this frozen in time is literal or not. I remember some source (But I've forgotten where) said that the birds of Atmora were stuck in the air and the falling snow are in a perpetual downfall, as in they too are stuck in mid-air, unmoving. But, that was like one source that I've been unable to find once more. But if what I just said about Atmora is true, why was its "destruction" so vastly different to the other two? Why does time seem to completely stop in Atmora, while Yokuda sank and Lyg seemingly just cease to exist?

@fodspeed 3 жыл бұрын

@@TheCerbari well it's possible that after night of tears when ysgramor traveled back to atmora, instead he was probably on lyg, and that's where he gather companions, or maybe lyg itself was just reference to atmora, Think about, yokunda was a different calpah, it's reasonable to think that atmora is a different calpah as well, Maybe when ysgramor went back to atmora and (drake aka dragon priests) didn't offer to help them, he gather five hundred companions and murder all of dragon priest on atmora and inturn brought the end to that calpah, as migration from atmora stopped after ysgramors return. what if the story of lyg was what happened at atmora. It's just an idea nothing more honestly. One thing for sure ysgramor had close connection to alduin and dragon cult. ysgramor was a likely dragon and he was alduin warlord (kohnarikk). I doubt alduin would made ysgramor into dragon priest, because he was a warlord, meant for fight, it's reasonable to think alduin made dragon or he always had been dragon, because that far exceed the abilities of dragon priest, beside from a conversation with ysgramor in ESO, he seemed not think too highly of dragon priests. Interestingly enough, yngol was supposedly a dragon priest, as when you fight him Skyrim, you fight a unknown dragon priest. So it's safe to say ysgramor family had heavy ties with dragon cult.

@jarl- 3 жыл бұрын

@@fodspeed we do know multiple people gain the tittle of ysgramor so i feel like what you said would make a lot of sense. A dragon returned and was hailed as ysgramor, sound familiar? When the dragonborn "returned" in TES V they were hailed as ysgramor. History repeats itself again.

@Oddball-_- 3 жыл бұрын

This just makes Nords even more epic than they were before

@e.k.9633 3 жыл бұрын

50% frost resistance and a once a day 'fear shout' is epic? Instead of epic, try useless.

@randomguy2023 3 жыл бұрын

How is the fear shout useless? It’s pretty helpful if you’re low health and you need your enemy to go away for a minute, and 50% frost resistance is pretty helpful specially in Dwemer and nord ruins.

@geoffreyparker2786 3 жыл бұрын

@@e.k.9633 Those are just game mechanics. You're thinking to much into it. Just by lore alone makes the Nords cool.

@e.k.9633 3 жыл бұрын

@@randomguy2023 I prefer to just kill my enemies. Even on legendary Skyrim has only 2 difficult types of enemies in the really early stage and these are Mages and Dragons, so frostresistence alone doesn't get you far when there is still lightning and fire. And when I'm beyond that stage, every fight is just a one sided slaughter. Never needed them to run away. I like Skyrim, I have over 1500 hours in it, but it's too easy. Besides, this once a day ability is permanently available via magic, so it is useless to have. Rather go for something that's not so easy to obtain.

@randomguy2023 3 жыл бұрын

Well then it’s your opinion. Some people like to kill people faster and some people like to stay alive.

@patriotsandtyrants 3 жыл бұрын

So then technically all Nords are Dovahkiin. Then why the hell is my Wood Elf archer called upon to end Alduin and deal with Miraak and all his nonsense while screaming at random people all over the frozen north…. Lazy ass Nords.

@megghanukuedojor3024 3 жыл бұрын

Yeah why tf was my khajiit running around sneaking and stealing and mingling with vampires and getting in the middle of a huge civil war when he could've been doing moon sugar damn it

@sirgideonofnir6840 3 жыл бұрын

Different pasts and futures of the elder scrolls. Only 1 has truly come to pass, while all other takes are the possible paths history could have took. If you think of the games themselves as elder scrolls, then it doesn't matter what race/gender or play style you used. Because only one dragon born slew Alduin. And canonically it will probably be a nord.

@fodspeed 3 жыл бұрын

@@sirgideonofnir6840 yes just like neraverine was confirmed later on to be dunmer. Canon race is always one where game is set in, and trailer Nord is true dragonborn most likely.

@DanielDykstraM 2 жыл бұрын

You know why the true DB is actually a Nord? Because the innate cold resistance is the only way anyone could ever survive their first encounter with Frost Storm spell down a dungeon corridor. Never could have happened DB not be a Nord 0% chance without a quicksave.

@Larissa-up7lu 2 жыл бұрын

@@DanielDykstraM omggg frost storm is the one spell in the game that irritates me the most lol

@shadowdwellerconwis2057 3 жыл бұрын

Drew don't spend to much time in the other realm's it's not good for you long term 😲

@kingclint2382 3 жыл бұрын

Becoming dragon..... Isn't that what Tosh Raka actually did?

@InquisitorSorynn 3 жыл бұрын

Yeah and he planned of conquering Akavir and after setting his sights on Tamriel

@cookeymonster83 3 жыл бұрын

Who is let's face it from that name some incarnation of Akatosh

@isarnorixx822 3 жыл бұрын

@@cookeymonster83 Not bad. Wonder if it's written family name first, with Tosh being the family name. (Like how Dunmeri names are written backwards "Indoril Nerevar" being "Nerevar Indoril") If so he'd be Raka Tosh.

@richardsousa2625 3 жыл бұрын

I have no real heritage to speak of. A bastard of mixes. But when that Sovngarde theme starts playing I feel it in my soul

@fodspeed 3 жыл бұрын

Maybe I'm the dragonborn, who knows?

@cookeymonster83 3 жыл бұрын

You are of the race of men so you are descended from Atmorans. That's why it stirs something in you :P

@toad23567 3 жыл бұрын

This one thinks Drrew hits too much of the skooma, yes?

@cpt.arctourus7950 3 жыл бұрын

Shegorath the skooma cat shall come for him

@__jonbud______________________ 3 жыл бұрын

This one thinks the furball forgets about the Ka'Po'Tun who learned how to became a dragon in Akavir. Nobody else is known to have learned it in Akavir, so what if his knowledge came from somewhere else? That's what this one wonders... The Hist would know, but they haven't seen fit to tell this one. Oh well. This one has trees and herbs to tend to once the sun rises.

@cpt.arctourus7950 3 жыл бұрын

@@__jonbud______________________ this one eating too much moons sugar it makes them say the random thing that brings shegorath closer

@__jonbud______________________ 3 жыл бұрын

@@cpt.arctourus7950 Sheogorath? Rest assured that this one only eats moonsugar if it's been mixed with sweetest of all saps so that he doesn't end up with a big head. No. This one knows only three masters. Sithis, the Hist, and above all Uncle Sanguine.

@cpt.arctourus7950 3 жыл бұрын

@@__jonbud______________________ this one respects your belief I am soldier of lady nocturnal as he agree with the ownership of the small shiny coins the furless ones make

@googanmcboogie9307 3 жыл бұрын

This definitely would help to explain the pretense and unique bloodline of Talos, the Amulet of Kings, the Septim Dynasty, and Martin's transfiguration.

@wisemankugelmemicus1701 11 ай бұрын

The big hole in this theory is that Ysgramor is in Skyrim...a spirit in Sovngarde. And that we know Nord Humans co-habitated Tamriel alongside Dragons. Maybe there were just 500 Companions and they did utterly annihilate the Snow Elves. Maybe Ysgramor was King of Atmora, and there were a lot more of them. The 500 Companions were definitely not dragons though.

@DrOfKy 3 жыл бұрын

Haven't had one of your videos recommended in probably 2 years.. definitely appreciated.

@delta-a17 3 жыл бұрын

The wording in this video is nearly song-like. Incredible work.

@devindickens9321 3 жыл бұрын

I kinda do buy this theory, if you also buy the one about the redguards "side stepping" or whatever to the next kalpa.. that would kinda explain how the 2 races came out of nowhere

@stevenholt585 3 жыл бұрын

Imagine if that's what dwemer did...

@yesseru 2 жыл бұрын

Your voice is so relaxing, and that paired with the soft relaxing skyrim music makes it perfect. I could watch for hours on end.

@gantzllat 3 жыл бұрын

In the words of Dunevir. "You are timeless, your voice is strong and your spirit unyielding. You are dova en everything but body quanarin, that's why I granted you this title"

@elgatto3133 3 жыл бұрын

"An interesting theory. But as usual, the credulous minds gravitate to the most outlandish theories. If Ysgramor was indeed a "dragon", most likely he was a Dragon Priest - in the Late Merethic Era, it would be unlikely for a leader of Ysgramor's reported stature to be unconnected to the Dragon Cult. But connecting the Nord hero Ysgramor with the now-reviled Dragon Cult is of course anathema to those who favor chauvinism over historical truth. Other possibilities are that Ysgramor was not an individual but an amalgamation of several people - his reported exploits encompass an unreasonable amount of time for a single individual. At the time, anyone of high stature or great prowess in battle would have been considered a "dragon" (the highest compliment imaginable). This does not mean that Ysgramor was in fact an actual dragon, but I have no doubt that the literal-minded among us will not hesitate to jump to the most obvious conclusions. True scholars will of course be more circumspect. -Hasphat Antabolis" Kurt Kuhlmann said this, still a fun theory though

@ruben7801 2 жыл бұрын

Tbh the Dragon Cult wrecks a load of other lore, I don't like it at all although the Dragon Priests in game are cool

@Alex-mq6qi 2 жыл бұрын

What about the fact that you see Ysgramor in Sovngarde?

@elgatto3133 2 жыл бұрын

@@Alex-mq6qi it is pretty reasonable to assume a dragon could take on humanoid form if one wanted to but yeah seems like evidence against to me

@Gabu_ 2 жыл бұрын

@@Alex-mq6qi TLD has human shape, even while in Sovngarde, despite having the soul of a dragon. That's effectively meaningless.

@morrigankasa570 3 жыл бұрын

Lorkhan is a hero and good sort. Screw any Elves denying that! Argonions are one of the greatest Races! Hail Talos and the Stormcloaks!!!

@DummyThiccCheeseCake 3 жыл бұрын

Hail brother. Good to see a friendly face in such times.

@Garry_Combine 3 жыл бұрын

Poggers lizard people are poggers

@stealyourface6000 3 жыл бұрын

I wish we could get an Elder Scrolls game that takes place on a different continent. At this point, Bethesda is beating Tamriel to death.

@Zephrim1022 2 жыл бұрын

That’s my guess as to where ES6 will take place. A different continent, with our characters being prisoners accused of dissertation from fleeing the second Great War. This way Bethesda won’t have to answer much of anything at all.

@BeefSupreme1422 2 жыл бұрын

@@Zephrim1022I had no idea there was other continents. I just always thought they had like a Pangea thing going on lol

@johnnygyro2295 2 жыл бұрын

@@BeefSupreme1422 Funny enough, some theorists believe Planet Nirn used to have a super continent, possibly Aldmeris, but that it was shattered into the continents we know today. Tamriel, Atmora and Yokuda to name a few.

@Delete240 Жыл бұрын

That’s like saying ASOIAF is beating Westeros to death. Tamriel is just where the series takes place. The other continents are just there for lore purposes, and to be cloaked in mystery.

@Flashjackmak 3 жыл бұрын

I know that the Nords are most strongly influenced by vikings, but the dragon-cult stuff always had a strong Egyptian feel to me and I love the combination of Norse and Egyptian vibes that you get from ancient Nord ruins and dragon priests.

@cookeymonster83 3 жыл бұрын

Not really. Viking priests were druids and they saw dragons as these great god beings that were revered. It makes perfect sense. Christianity demonised them which is why in the west they are seen as monsters.

@Tarooo89 Жыл бұрын

@@cookeymonster83 druids were a Celtic social class, not Viking priests

@indibrothers2433 Жыл бұрын

The ancient nordic ruins were also influenced by celtic and anglo-saxon burial grounds called "Barrows". Some of these barrows in England and Ireland look pretty similar to the ancient nordic barrows.

@glock16 3 жыл бұрын

The framing of this video is great. It could very easily come from an NPC in the games.

@zonewanderer 3 жыл бұрын

It's neat hearing about previous kalpas, like how Umaril's father was a god of a world before this one. How many kalpas have there been, and how many beings survived the re-birthing of the world? Fun stuff to think about in my spare time

@michaelpettersson4919 3 жыл бұрын

Maybe the number of kalpas are infinite? Or maybe it is like whenever you restart the game and create a new character you create a new kalpa. If you are into modding the game then the rules may change as well.

@thaliazelmer2327 3 жыл бұрын

Also, conceivably every kalpa would change the survivors in some way, so every iteration is altered, yet there is a continuation of struggle. The more things change, the more they remain the same.

@nomadrootstv2408 2 жыл бұрын

Holy skooma, this the kind of stuff i ramble on and on about by myself whilst playing or just thinking about the game. It's good to find a challenge this rich in content. I am happy. Thank you. I wish i would've found you sooner

@Purplepentapus_ 3 жыл бұрын

Bethesda should just hire you guys to write lore or something at this point, your lore scripts are all so well written and well voice acted

@spicyshizz2850 3 жыл бұрын

They are really good

@mattyschell1973 3 жыл бұрын

Absolutely fantastic. Ive been hooked on all the Fudge muppet lore vids for the past few months now (Im late to the party, I know) but this one was especially exceptional for some reason. Side note from the opening shot: Bethsoft really should have had more moving boats in the bigger waters. Even if they didnt offer any real elements other than visual effects or a different, albeit slower (non fast travel) means of moving from cities near major water ways

@RyuuKageDesu 3 жыл бұрын

This really helps solidify the the lore behind the Dragon Born, and how they seem to be genetically related to dragons.

@johnmiller6624 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you fudgemuppet. I always enjoy when you take us back to the merethic times, and the first era. I'm on my second playthrough and I can't help but wonder what skyrim was like during that time.

@BurninOtter 3 жыл бұрын

Another example of beautiful story telling! Thanks so much for these I eat em up like sweet rolls! I hope I can learn to write and present like yourself! Great work buddy!