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"Theological truth is not achieved by responding to the cool-shame, and neither is scientific truth." Great quote.

Whenever i see a bold Christian it really overwhelme's me with joy ,God bless you guys

I really appreciate the volume and quality of content Canon puts out. Thank you.

Canon+ is officially more successful than CNN+. Congrats guys! 🤣

"I have sometimes wondered why it took so long.....6 days" 🤣 👌🏻

If I have told you earthly things, and ye believe not, how shall ye believe, if I tell you of heavenly things? (John3) - JESUS

“The Cool Shame” what a helpful phrase. Good stuff!

Good job, Doug. Totally agree.

Helpful dialogue- thank you

Great video and the documentary looks like a great watch hope I can see it eventually.

Wow. Good points. Especially with the need for a historical Adam. This issue I have been contemplating. I keep going back to Proverbs 3:5-6

Would love to see a conversation with Doug Wilson and Hugh Ross on this topic.

I've always looked at the creation account as God could have made the Earth and all its creatures anyway he saw fit. Whether it was a literary or literal interpretation I always felt like I could see both sides of the argument. What Pastor Doug brings to light about Death Coming out of Adam, is very compelling towards the literal creation account! If death did not come out of Adam all the other doctrinal truths we hold onto are void. Thank you for sharing this!!

Thank you for your boldness.

Thank you! Excellent points.

I am looking forward to that documentary. And Doug, though I myself am a young earth creationist, I never had quite the depth you had on this matter. Thank you for giving me insight to lead my family with this one.

Thank you Doug. The confidence you expressed while answering the question was encouraging and begs a further question on us believers; whether we are willing to stand on the word and build our foundation on the rock. Thank you again.

One thing he said is right. Whatever someone else says he should not care, that is very true, and for the same token whatever these creationists are saying, nobody else should care.

documentary looks excellent!

Imagine having the faith to believe in Christ’s incarnation, resurrection and everything He did in-between, but resigning that very faith to believe God is limited in His power and couldn’t have created the universe in 6 days a very few thousand years ago.

It matters who did it, how he did it and when he did it! God created and he told us how and when! Twist all you like but there is zero reason to doubt as He told us in his word.

Thank you Brother.

wow awesome answer. thank you

Well said; the concept that either Death created Adam or Adam created Death is very helpful; thankyou!

I wonder how Doug would respond to John Walton's view of the creation week being a temple inauguration.

Spot on!! Thanks Doug 💪

A good answer to the question is “of course!” I learned that from RC Sproul 😊

In a weeks time ill be graduating with my bachelors degree in biology from a well reputed secular university here in canada. yay! I entered university not being sure how to think about the issue, and leaning toward the old earth evolutionary paradigm as that is what seemed to be most demonstrable. However, over the course of my education i have become an assured young earth creationist. The more i learn about life, and geology, archeology, astronomy and paleontology, the stronger i see the natural evidence is for a biblical young earth.

Disagree but I think Doug does a great job of representing his position.

I hate seeing obviously intelligent people fall for this - Breaks my heart -

Great points from Doug. I’ve listened to William Craig and others, and as much as I respect some of those who aren’t YEC, I always find their stances lacking.

I appreciate you answering this question. I have been an old Earth creationist for as long as I can remember having an opinion about it, and had typically dismissed the young Earth position as simply the unwillingness to consider 6 days to be figurative. But I'm beginning to doubt that now that you present the theological argument about death and adam.

Hallelujah! Thank you for your clear and firm position here. It truly does start a wicked domino effect when you doubt the first few pages of Genesis or use some sort of hermeneutic that comes from pagan minds and not from the word of God itself. Thank you, thank you!

Three for three. I am with Doug on origins, predestination, and eschatology!

Nailed it.

I'm not one of them Christians who believe God created everything in 7 days because He created everything in 6 days and rested on The Sabbath

I’ve yet to meet anyone who holds this belief in person. I personally hold this belief after being saved and learning from the Bible.

People can absolutely arrive at an old earth view without it being a consequence of peer pressure

Thank you!!!

Thanks for answering this. I believe in creation as the bible records and I've sort of been stuck on if it's literal 6 days (+ day 7th for rest) and these things. I sort of think, whether it was literally 7 days or not doesn't matter, I believe God did it. But I've been made fun of for believing this. Also because I believe in Noah and the flood too, people have made fun of me for this too. I'd like to hear your opinion on Noah too.

Come on, guys. The characterization of professors who don't hold to young earth as influenced by coolness is unfair and inaccurate. Vern poythress? Lewis? Gleason Archer? Warfield? Piper?

Love you guys and you to uncle...

Not only the Gospel basis, but also the divine numerical patters. Six days for men, one day of Shabbat (seventh Millennium).

I love this… my reply to all is: “Just at what point do you begin to trust scripture?”

For young earth creation, how does one explain where dinosaurs, Ice Age animals, Neanderthals and other pre-humans, and human civilizations having been in existence 10s of 1000s of yrs ago?

John Walton's the lost world of Genesis is a great critique of this position.

I never thought that death was an enemy! It is too universal to be anything other than a natural experience at the end of life1

Thanks for the clear points. Although I have never believed in evolution, I for a long time believed in an old cosmos. But I now believe in young earth completely.

After looking into it… YEC is totally ridiculous.

Excellent

Completely 100% my position as well

You've made great arguments here. I have been a gap theorist in the past. I've believed that in the beginning God created the Heavens and the Earth, then there was this long gap where angelic beings took the stage until the fall of Lucifer. My thinking was, sin had to exist before Adam, Eve had to have gotten temptation from somewhere, right? I did believe in a literal six day "recreation" after the fall. (I sort of compared the six day creation to the Christian being a new creation in 2 Corinthians 5:17. It wasn't that the Christian was immediately spoken into existence at the point of Salvation, but God took what was cursed and created a new being, so in that same way the six day creation was a "re-creation." But now I think that's quite a stretch. But what changed my mind is death in creation had to come from Adam, not Satan. 1 Corinthians 15:21 and 22 says "For since death came through a man, the resurrection of the dead comes also through a man. For as in Adam all die, so in Christ all will be made alive." It doesn't say death came by the fall of Lucifer. This video brought that to mind. I think I've had lingering considerations toward gap creationism, but this video sort of is the nail in the coffin for me. Thank you!

The earth is 4.5 billion years old.

The "cool shame"... I like that term.

Good Vid. Y’all should have Wendell Berry and Joel Salatin on Man Rampant

Dinosaur bones in the ground, billions of years old starlight, pre-fall great white sharks that are vegetarian, plant death but not animal death (what about bacteria, can they die pre-fall?). Do you think its more coherent to adopt all of those problems compared to the interpretative issues thrown up by an old earth? I can't help but think the young Earth view is ignoring the cautionary lesson of geocentrism vs heliocentrism.

Humanity can be young, doesn't mean the Earth is. Old earth isn't automatically theistic evolution either. Check out Dr. Hugh Ross

Being close or near is very interesting seen possibilities that can't dare say in.

I think the important question is not whether or not science in the creation account can be made coherent, even though that is an issue, the real question is are you really a calvinist? How is it people who have so much theological education can actually claim an association with an unrepentant premeditated murderer who spent most of his life taking a check from Rome?

Ben: Doug, are you really a young earth creationist? Doug: hehe

May the Lord return!! Amen. God is merciful. He always forgives. Never be ashamed to take your failures to him. He is for you, not against you! God is with you in the storm. He knows your troubles, he hears you! He is for you, on your side, always! It may feel silent at times, but he’s holding you close! May the Lord return soon! We are drawing closer. He is coming! Believe and trust in the Lord, you will be saved. Period. May the Lord bless you all! Hang in there family. Stay strong. It is not easy following the Lord. We are scoffed at. We give up our earthly dreams, our fleshly desires. What the enemy offers is short lived, but heaven is forever! Life may seem or be unfair, but God is with you! Always remember that. Things may get better or worse for you, but a kingdom awaits you! Finish the race! Repent daily and carry your cross. This world is fading fast. Your troubles are temporary! New channel here, I’d appreciate any kind of support. Don’t give up! God loves you so much! So do I. The Lord bless you!!

I find it cool the whole of creation was baptized

Every time I’ve been asked I’m totally honest, I don’t necessarily care to much but I’ll ask him when I get home nonetheless.

Is it possible that God created Earth in six days and at the same time Adam and Eve (and their offspring) were in the Garden for billions of years?

One of the greatest Reformed Theologians, if not the greatest, B.B. Warfield believed in evolution and old Earth

To believe in yec you don’t have to deny just evolution. You have to deny zoology,paleontology,dendrology,geology,and many many more fields of study

Yesssss!

Thank You man!! Usually all the smarties that are “Christian” say literal 6 day creation is foolish! Maybe I am only a high school graduate but I believe truth is truth no matter what the scientists say! Glad to see an highly educated man like yourself with a bit of conviction!!🛐🛐🛐🛐🛐🛐🛐🛐🛐🛐☮️☮️☮️☮️☮️☮️☮️☮️☮️☮️

I am not disagreeing with your young earth view, but physical death was never our enemy. Spiritual death was always the enemy.

When and where will we be able to access the debate with James White?

That seems like a logical fallacy...."well it ruins the ending so, it can't be true".

I may not understand what the Bible means, but I fully believe what it says. And no, I don't really care if that bothers you.

How old was Adam on his first day? Was he a baby? Or,was he both one day old yet fully mature? Same may be true for universe.

compared YEC to Calvinism, sounds just about right!!!

Compared to the standards of mainstream secular science I am YEC, but a few distinctive differences. Ultimately I believe that the Bible is God's inerrant revelation, I honestly believe the text of Scripture allows for these things but I am open to correction: Not totally convinced that the 6 days are literally six periods of 24 hours. For one, I honestly read in the text that the first day starts at verse 3, meaning that verses 1 and 2 saying God created the Heavens and the Earth which was barren and desolate happened previous to the first day. This makes sense as on the first day it describes God as instituting the orderly cycle of night and day, the first day was when God ordained a "day" as a unit of time. Also 7 is a highly symbolic number referring to totality or completeness, and there are other places in Scripture where it says 7 when we can confirm for a fact that is not the literally accurate number to use. For example, there is a place in Proverbs where the text says that if you steal from someone you will have to repay seven times the value of what you stole. In the Law it is clearly stated you only need to repay a maximum of five times the value, but the meaning of saying seven times is not literal it's saying you need to repay in full or completely. I could go on but my only point is that I'm not convinced the text requires you to view the six days of creation as literally 6 x 24 hrs. Of course it is possible, and I certainly don't think the creation was stretched out over vast amounts of time. I don't buy the secular figures for the age of the Earth or universe, but I also don't find the reasons for accepting a figure of around 6000 years. Maybe it is 6000 I don't know, but like I said earlier there's too many symbolic numbers, rounded or idealized dates, genealogy compression etc. for me to accept this one part of the Bible has right on the dot totally literal genealogies and time figures. If I had to guess the age, I'd give a max range of 6000 on the lowest end and maybe a few million on the extreme high end, more narrowly 15-200 thousand years. That's old compared to typical YEC but pocket change compared to the ages the secular world gives. Either way man and all the other animals have been on the Earth since the beginning, Darwinian evolution is nonsense. I believe in co-Adamism, the idea that other humans were independently that did not directly descend from Adam and Eve. Mostly due to several things in Genesis 4, such as Cain being worried people will kill him for which God places the mark on him. Who exactly is he afraid of? Without co-Adamism, the only people in existence at this point are Cain, Adam, Eve, and maybe some of their daughters (my reading is that Cain and Abel were the only two sons born yet, even if that isn't true it only adds some unnamed sons as Seth definitely was born after Cain's departure). If he feared his father or brothers, it's a very strange way to refer to them. Seems to me as though there were other people. Additionally it says Cain built a city, who exactly lives in this city? A small settlement for your own family is not a city. The biggest piece of evidence is the question of who the sons and daughters of Adam were marrying. Most common answer I've heard is that they married their own siblings. 1, it's very frustrating when fundamentalists accuse me of "adding to the Bible" and then give explanations for things that are also not in the Bible, and nowhere in Scripture is it stated or implied Adam's children married each other. 2, incest is a sin, for this to be true it would need to have been God's appointed plan for mankind that they accomplish his command to be fruitful and multiply by sinning sexually. Yes it's true that incest was prohibited explicitly in the Mosaic covenant, however we know that at least some things in the Mosaic covenant (like the ten commandments) apply not just to national Israel under the old covenant but all mankind. Paul in 1 Corinthians calls for church discipline on a man who had sexual relations with his father's wife, this is specified as a sin in the Mosaic covenant yet Paul of all people still holds gentiles to it. Sexual sins still very much apply outside of the Mosaic covenant, and God does not change his mind, sibling incest was as much a sin in Adam's day as it was in Moses' or Paul's or ours. And this can't be attributed to the Fall. If God created Adam and Eve only, He knew the only possible way to fulfill His command to be fruitful and multiply would necessitate sibling incest, a sin. And it seems like even before the Fall sexual reproduction was part of His appointed design, He made us sexually dimorphic creatures and instituted marriage. I won't say I refuse to believe the contrary, but I would need to hear an airtight case as to why what I'm saying is not an issue. This isn't like the above two where I'm just not convinced of one specific answer, I really think the position of no people specially created besides Adam and Eve has this glaring problem and so stand with reasonable confidence in the necessary alternative.

I do appreciate Doug’s honesty here. As soon as he answered yes it’s confirmation he has no concept of language, literature, history, or religion and his opinions can’t be intelligently formed

I was a friend of Doug until now.. everything that came out his mouth was pure wrong.. truly disappointed..

Good for Doug Wilson! If the earth is old, Christianity is false!😢😢😢

ATE WCT AATB (Channel) has some "show and tell" videos on how things can be created by words. Just a thought.

Genuine question, how long was Adam living before Eve was created? How long was Adam and Eve in the garden before the fall? Is there a time period given in the Bible? If not, couldn't that have potentially been a period of millions of years?

There is a LOT of hard scientific evidence for the Biblical account of creation. But, we seldom hear it. Instead, we are brain-washed into thinking that evolutionary theory is proven by science ... which it is not.

Thank you Doug! Wondeirng about whether the enemy is spiritual death, not physical death, separation from God is the real enemy? Also thank you for helping me to think further about the theological purpose of pain in the created process. I've found some helpful insights from William Lane Craig's book, would love to see a dialouge between the two of you on this topic.

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What is the best explanation for fossils which dated in the millions of years of young earth creationism is true?

Everything God created, he created with the appearance of age. How old did Adam look 10seconds after the life was breathed into him? Ya, once I understood this, I never questioned 6 day creation again.

Amen, me too.

I think what made me wonder the same thing was when Pastor Wilson said he believed myth was in the Bible. I think the context was also about the creation account. Maybe you could have him clarify?

The challenge is not believing in a young earth creation, but in the believing in a God that is capable enough to make everything out of nothing, and the fact He actually did. At that point, it's easy to believe that God created everything from nothing exactly as he said He did!

Honest thought. I just don't know about the idea of no death before Adam. God told Adam he could eat plants. Plants are alive. Thus Adam killed things when he ate them. Then does it mean no sentient death before Adam? There's absolutely no indication of that either. Even in Psalms it says that the lion cries out for prey and he delivers it. So God sees this as still good. Also, God said that on the day they eat from the tree of knowledge they will surely die. They ate it and didn't immediately die. But they may have suffered spiritual death. I do believe this is a secondary issue. I love listening to debates on it and hearing all of the sides. I don't really know where I stand except I trust in Jesus and God knows what He is doing.

scientific truth you can test for yourself. No matter how hard you try and apply all scientific avenues, water always finds its level. No matter the size.....observe for yourself. Boyouncy and density.

Take God at His word.

It's sad if Old Earth Creationists are shaming others, which I'm sure happens, but many hold that view not because they think it's cool. A quick survey of Christians throughout history demonstrates that Old Earth isn't a new idea. Additionally, much shaming comes from Young Earth Creationists, claiming that anyone holding to an Older Earth doesn't believe the Bible.

The Hebrew word for day is Yom. Yom has more than one meaning, it doesn’t just mean a 24hr day. It can also mean the daylight hours in a day or an unspecified period of time. So translating genesis to 6 literal days is only one interpretation. Yom could be referring to 6 periods of time. Our English word Day has multiple meanings. “He was a good fighter in his day” in this example Day refers to a long period of time. Hebrew is a rather limited language so when Moses wrote genesis he didn’t have many words to pick from to describe these 6 time periods. Plus he had to write it in a way that would be readable and understandable for the thousands of years up until now. In most of history most people weren’t educated or could even read so he had to write it simply so the story could be understood and easily told. The Bible is not meant to be a science boook so don’t ask a shark to climb a tree. Bible is meant to tell man’s relationship with God, man’s fall and redemption through Jesus. Bible isn’t meant to explain everything else in great detail.

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What about the temple view?

The Hebrew word for day is "yom", which is from what I've heard one of the only ways (or maybe the only way?) to express a period of time. So Yom translated to - day, year, time period, time period of unspecified length. I am partial to an old earth creation, but it doesn't matter who's right. If you're on God's side your on my side brother.

I don’t really take a position in this topic - though If I am honest I find the evidence for an old earth extremely powerful - just not enough to start making confident assertions on where others are required to land. I find myself in arguments defending old earth beliefs a lot but it’s not because I have a problem with young earth; it’s the way “old earthers” are represented and dismissed pretty regularly in my circles. I would argue in favor of young earth if someone said “are you really a young earth creationist”, I just don’t run into that at my church. My issues aren’t with those that hold either position but the way we try to belittle or dismiss each other over what I see is of very little theological importance.

I lean more towards YEC too, it’s much closer to the truth than billions and billions of years and the way the science textbooks claim.

I love Doug's style and personality. It's a shame YEC is completely wrong, but I like the uncompromising boldness of the honest people that believe it for the right reasons.