YouTube's Most Psychotic Vegan

Рет қаралды 1,240,659

8 ай бұрын

Vegan Gains: / @vegangains
Instagram: / tombutdark
Second Channel: / @tomdark
Last Video: • DarkSydePhil: A Decade...
Random Video: • How SSSniperwolf Got A...
Music: www.mvlden.net/
Editors
Lukas: / ldkmadeit
Lotan: / @l0tan
Research/Writing: / @guwi
Filming: / @chleepy

Пікірлер: 7 300

@nickm2046 8 ай бұрын

Tom is the kind of guy to release a documentary on a vegan dude on Thanksgiving

@exaggeratedswaggerofablackteen 8 ай бұрын

I want to make a culturally relevant joke but I'm not american and never celebrated Thanksgiving. So I'll just end my comment with a terrible dad joke and say that he's named *Turkey* Tom for a reason, heh. Amarite fellas ?

@JamesWagner-vv9iz 8 ай бұрын

But it was transphobic

@kint5379 8 ай бұрын

@@JamesWagner-vv9izNice

@TwilightWolf032 8 ай бұрын

Not to mention he's TURKEY Tom! :D

@frogmouth2 8 ай бұрын

He’s really the chuck.e cheese of KZfaq.

@Griffin050A1t 3 ай бұрын

“Yellowstone national park was doing fine without the wolves” except it wasn’t. And they literally had to reintroduce wolves to balance out the ecosystem

@poggerwhite 2 ай бұрын

Same thing happened in the Adirondack Mountains

@craigchaytor9109 Ай бұрын

I feel like people like him need to learn it can't be black and white. Ecosystems are a complex balancing act.

@johndoe4004 Ай бұрын

that was the comment that made me have to look down at the comment section just to make sure people are sane, and thank god im seeing people calling it out all over this comment section lol

@Griffin050A1t Ай бұрын

@@johndoe4004 the dude wants to have the objectively right opinion he denies how the world works. It’s kinda sad

@TheBirb101 25 күн бұрын

i think vegan gains watched to much Zootopia

@sumoslamer180 7 ай бұрын

1:14:00 Yellowstone ecosystem was fine without wolves?!?!?! I know this guy has issues, but saying that isn't only insane, it is blatantly wrong and stupid beyond imagination. When the wolves in Yellowstone were hunted to extinction the deer population sky-rocketed and begun overgrazing to the point that other animals started dying off or migrating elsewhere. "I am compassionate to animals because they are weak and so I decree that all carnivorous life-forms should be hunted into extinction", Said the "compassionate" person.

@aidanhoskinson4269 12 күн бұрын

this comment had me going insane, im so glad people called him out

@prettybullet7728 9 күн бұрын

He takes it too far. There needs to be a balance in the ecosystem.

@brooke11111 6 ай бұрын

As a biologist Yellowstone is definitely an example of how lacking predators causes an environmental impact. It was found the overpopulation of herbivores changes the water ways. It affected the vegetation. I find it absurd that he says he judges people for being “misinformed” yet he has some very flawed logic based off of things that aren’t even true.

@ImpetuouslyInsane 6 ай бұрын

He's thinking with is emotions and manipulating people into thinking he has a point despite being 3000 miles away from the point

@clammerify 3 ай бұрын

Lmao exactly. he is a dumb city idiot with no understanding of nature. Lack of wolves PROFOUNDLY affected Yellowstone's ecosystem down to the aquatic invertebrates in the rivers.

@david.7417 3 ай бұрын

You moron, he literally says he's fine with killing carnivorous animals AS LONG AS it doesn't hurt herbivores animals. So if killing a lot of them caused environmental damage which would hurt herbivores then he wouldn't be in favour of that.

@GhostCorvid20 3 ай бұрын

Unfortunately there has been a lot of sensationalist media on this topic in favor of the idea that reintroducing wolves helped fix the yellowstone ecosystem but there wasn't ever solid evidence of that in the first place. Look up the article "Scientists debunk myth that Yellowstone wolves changed entire ecosystem, flow of rivers" As well as the actual study titled "Does restoring apex predators to food webs restore ecosystems? Large carnivores in Yellowstone as a model system" The author of the study, "It is a classic example of how saying something many times with enthusiasm can make it true, regardless of what the science says".

@giovanimaradei9865 3 ай бұрын

That is a Vegan's stupid mindset. Even I saw an idiotic Vegan says her dog/cat is vegan too, but ended eating meal.

@CHURCHISAWESUM 8 ай бұрын

The funniest interaction I’ve ever seen with this guy was when Tristan Haggard asked him in a debate: “If you saw a bear eating a fish, would you arrest the bear for violating the fish’s equal right to life?” And he said yes.

@superfarful 8 ай бұрын

Bear prison hell yeah dude

@spunkush 8 ай бұрын

Vegan gains would be more reasonable if he limited his ire towards factory farming. But he goes full r-word when he talks about killing carnivorous animala

@TomS1205 8 ай бұрын

I don't think he actually believes that more so that he just says he does to avoid accusations of logical inconsistency @@spunkush

@randylahey2242 8 ай бұрын

@@spunkush thats his entire brand lmfao if he was like everything other vegan he would be unknown. This is this guy's job

@earthy205 8 ай бұрын

Imagine being such a misinformed loser you're vegan

@ransomnotes666 8 ай бұрын

When he said he would be in favor of killing carnivorus animals to protect other animals, my jaw dropped.

@chmchn 8 ай бұрын

Trying his very best to not drown in his own logic

@crownedintitanfire 8 ай бұрын

his brain is unimaginably small it hurts

@karambadodox 8 ай бұрын

I mean, it does make sense... at least on ecosystems where it wouldn't just end up causing more harm.

@V_Deity 8 ай бұрын

Why is this alarming to you in any way? What do you honestly think will happen to planet Earth in the year let's say 3000? Do you think nature and forests will still exist by then or we will have full manipulation and control over every aspect of science and understanding of animals which would include figuring out how to make nature more efficient with less suffering? I swear man, people trigger themselves with the inability to think about other beings and steps ahead.

@BulkernatorKerb 8 ай бұрын

@V_Deity You trigger yourself with timeframes and results completely outside of your control and influence.

@consequences9803 7 ай бұрын

Has near death experience, realizes life is precious Laughs at his grandfather having a heart attack and states he would kill meat eaters if it was legal.

@goobert221 4 ай бұрын

And the funny part is meat eaters are the common gun owners lol he ain’t getting through a 12 gauge with his iron deficient ass

@kirikakirikakirika 6 ай бұрын

So his grandfather lived to the ripe old age of EIGHTY-TWO, and for whatever reason Richard thought he had a bad diet? Most American men, on average, have a life expectancy of 75. Does Richard not understand that, no matter what you eat, you're going to die? Age will eventually get you.

@ashebennett7726 3 ай бұрын

My uncles dad was almost 90 when he died and was DEFINITELY not vegan. Man loved his steak and processed meat. True a poor diet can be your undoing if you’re not careful, but so can anger due to stress raising your blood pressure. I’ve seen people with anger issues drop dead like May flies after screaming the way Richard did. Heart problems can also be hereditary. Then there are people who can eat whatever they want and STILL not suffer heart problems, high blood pressure, obesity, etc. it just depends on the person.

@Jacklevics 2 ай бұрын

That’s not evidence that something is healthy though. You can find smokers that have lived into their 80, 90s etc. The oldest human ever recorded to live smoked well into her 100s. Doesn’t therefore equal healthy/unhealthy because of the longevity.

@kirikakirikakirika 2 ай бұрын

@@Jacklevics Longevity has almost everything to do with health, though. Living to the age while being unhealthy is extremely rare.

@Jacklevics 2 ай бұрын

@@kirikakirikakirika Yeah, I didn’t say that longevity isn’t heavily dependant on health though. My point is one can’t claim X is healthy just because of an anecdotal case. Should be based on health outcome data.

@kirikakirikakirika 2 ай бұрын

@@Jacklevics Sure, but health outcome data shows that eating meat (especially fish and poultry) is healthy for you.

@seangriffin5524 8 ай бұрын

There’s literally an entire documentary about how removing the wolves from Yellowstone severely damaged the ecosystem and reintroducing them directly helped in restoring it.

@occultnightingale1106 8 ай бұрын

Yellowstone's ecosystem suffered mainly because the humans in the area did not take up the responsibility of filling the role of the predator within the ecosystem. Hunting in Yellowstone Park is *strictly prohibited,* which means the vacuum left by the removed predators was not filled with an appropriate check to account for it, leading to the local herbivorous fauna running completely unchecked. Meanwhile, in England, the ecosystem remains extremely healthy, even vibrant after the eradication of their native Wolf population in the 1300s, because the English people adapted, and developed a strong hunting culture.

@princesspikachu3915 8 ай бұрын

I watched a documentary about wolves on Scripps News (formerly Newsy). Wolves are making a comeback with the reintroduction program and the ecosystem is slowly beginning to recover. The wolves aren’t even targeting livestock much and are being deterred with scary “ribbbons” that blow in the wind. Some are being tracked with collars. It was a fascinating watch.

@seangriffin5524 8 ай бұрын

@@occultnightingale1106 this is really interesting! Makes total sense though. I still believe in a place like Yellowstone the natural order should be maintained over removing the wolves and then adapting. That’s kind of the whole point of Yellowstone. But that totally makes sense In a more inhabited area like that where the wolves need to be under control. Thanks for that bit of education, I’m gonna look into that more!

@seangriffin5524 8 ай бұрын

@@princesspikachu3915 yup! It’s definitely really interesting and I think the more natural we can keep somewhere like Yellowstone the better. It’s an amazing place.

@MrBonebus 8 ай бұрын

without predators prey grow to levels where they destroy their own ecosystem till food is so scarce that whole herds die.

@Cruzer108 8 ай бұрын

It's funny how he brings up yellow stone as a "fine ecosystem" when without wolves the biodiversity was horrible and so many species disappeared from the area you need wolves to actively keep the elk in check

@striker0243 8 ай бұрын

I almost lost my mind when she said that. Completely ignorant or locking into confirmation bias.

@expertGam3r58 8 ай бұрын

He wasn’t trying to prove there were no negative externalities. He was just using it as an example to prove there wasn’t some kind of complete ecological collapse

@asticou14 8 ай бұрын

I literally said out loud "No it was NOT" when he said Yellowstone was fine without wolves. I think it's so crazy when people view wolves as something to get rid of.

@spartacus2650 8 ай бұрын

@@expertGam3r58he's a delusional moron who's 100% wrong.

@kyrohowe3156 8 ай бұрын

@asticou14 it really shows he knows NOTHING about nature or animal environments

@hauntedshadowslegacy2826 4 ай бұрын

1:19:18 Cats are obligate carnivores. They NEED certain proteins that plants do not naturally produce. So either he's been feeding the cat heavily genetically modified plants, he's been feeding the cat fake-vegan foods that contain the animal-based protein, or someone's been sneaking in behind his back to feed the cat what it actually needs to survive. If he wants pets that are vegan, he shouldn't have a cat. Period. Trying to force a cat to eat vegan is animal cruelty.

@User-bl5cw 3 ай бұрын

What’s the argument for this? All I’m seeing is a ramble with a bunch of vague propositions on the table. Under what modality is “need” being used? His cat is still alive and healthy.

@joeywtf7040 3 ай бұрын

taking the term "obligate carnivore" at face value is not using critical thinking. cats dont "need" meat to survive, they need the nutrients from meat to survive. one of the most common examples of this is taurine. taurine is pretty much not produced by any plants, and cats need to eat taurine to survive. But taurine can be artificially synthesized in a lab and then supplemented into vegan cat food. heres the real kicker, cat foods that do contain actual meat are often also supplemented with taurine because in the food making process the taurine from the meat is destroyed.

@fanwee5048 3 ай бұрын

The two comments above me leave me very happy that there are smart people in this world ❤

@Jacklevics 2 ай бұрын

Typical cat foods are not “natural” and even though meat based they also have these nutrients fortified in the cat food (E.G. Taurine). A plant based cat food would be the same.

@radicalsini 2 ай бұрын

If he thinks obligate carnivores don't deserve to be alive please get the cat away from him, I don't doubt he's been abusing the poor thing in one way or another!

@lothwicke 7 ай бұрын

I'm getting heavy compulsive liar vibes from this dude. Start to finish he stinks of insecurity. Kudos to Tom for keeping a straight face through it all and handing us another insightful documentary!

@originalprecursor 6 ай бұрын

Richard is no liar. Although I can agree he does give off the vibe.

@daveyjones8969 6 ай бұрын

Part of that was he frequented bodybuilding conventions or whatever, and he was consistently smaller than EVERYONE who ate meat, couldn't lift nearly as much either. There seems to be a superiority complex that developed to overcompensate.

@remitto8367 5 ай бұрын

He has mental issues and is on medication for it, give the dude a break.

@daveyjones8969 5 ай бұрын

@@remitto8367 He abused a puppy. No, he gets no break.

@lukeempty3386 5 ай бұрын

@@daveyjones8969hasn't he already addressed that. The dog had a illness which is now under control

@wonkabars6982 8 ай бұрын

Releasing a documentary of a vegan on Thanksgiving is low-key hilarious.

@nerolzaphobia 8 ай бұрын

I'm dying of laughter right now, pissing and shitting my pants and rolling in it. Kicking my feet in the air as I sneeze snot out of my nostrils. Chuckling and gargling on my own saliva, then vomit. Having to push my stomach against a chair because I almost passed out from not being able to breathe. Passed out anyways. Woke up to my dad beating me with a belt for staining the carpet. I beat his ass. Went back to see the date of the video, return to laughing and choking. Low-key hilarious.

@delskif1425 8 ай бұрын

@@nerolzaphobia Low-key tho

@freefromillusions 8 ай бұрын

I'm a vegan and I initially agreed with a lot of the arguments that Vegan gains made, all the way up until he proposed that we kill all carnivorous animals, which is anti-vegan and plain stupid. Carnivores have to eat meat in order to survive, and they play a vital role in the ecosystem. The vegan argument against meat eating is the fact that humans don't have to eat meat, and in fact are doing so at the detriment to not only our health, but also the environment and other animals. Killing animals not in self-defense would never be justifiable in my opinion.

@predeterminedmeat5024 8 ай бұрын

Oh shit. I didn't know americans celebrated it today

@jonathansoko1085 8 ай бұрын

Turkey is literally in his name here, i dont think its low key. Its in fact, as high key and direct as possible

@meilikino 8 ай бұрын

there's something so funny and interesting about seeing someone that is typically so volatile and troublesome act so chill and open to a casual conversation. it's a genuinely fascinating perspective we usually never see in these types of people.

@violetblythe6912 8 ай бұрын

He’s actually chill most of the time these days. He hasn’t done the over the top screaming with a knife stuff in years.

@MasterAgentGhost 8 ай бұрын

I mean you can tell he was intentionally unhinged to get attention

@brianmurphy250 8 ай бұрын

Or it could be he’s heavily medicated

@alhassirakhdugani5813 8 ай бұрын

@brianmurphy250 definitely medicated. Understandable though, I would have been super angry if I was denying myself all food of substance.

@speedbooferganjalf 8 ай бұрын

He's pretty chill when he's streaming. The best parts are when he gets angry xD

@theartright4650 7 ай бұрын

The mental gymnastics vegan gains goes through to justify his beliefs is mind numbing

@Alethiometer 7 ай бұрын

Amen, I'm less than 20 minutes in & my brain has tapped out

@kingcosworth2643 7 ай бұрын

It's the true superpower of the Left, logic goes on a true rollercoaster ride when trying to be utilised by them.

@mctbaggins2084 6 ай бұрын

@@Alethiometer same, bro. Not sure how he can think he's a sociopath but then is sooo empathetic to animals. Makes no sense. Atleast I understand better now why I don't like him.

@user-lh4oz7gr2s 6 ай бұрын

People give him flak for saying that carnivorous animals should basically go extinct because their existence is immoral. But he actually needs to believe that or else his ideology falls apart. So he believes in an insane thing, but at least this way it’s more solid lol

@Merc306. 5 ай бұрын

All vegans are like that lol

@AngyBoi69 6 ай бұрын

This guy is the incarnation of "moving the goalpost" there will be nothing that satisfies him. There will always be a counter point therefore proving that he's just there to prolong the drama.

@mitchio83 5 ай бұрын

Why aren’t you vegan?

@AngyBoi69 5 ай бұрын

@@mitchio83 I never really thought about it. Spent most of my life in a meat eating family you kinda just think of it as second nature.

@mitchio83 5 ай бұрын

@@AngyBoi69 But you wouldn’t kick a dog right? Seems hypocritical.

@AngyBoi69 5 ай бұрын

@@mitchio83 And yall wonder why people hate vegans 💀💀💀💀💀💀

@mitchio83 5 ай бұрын

@@AngyBoi69 See, i knew you had no argument when i read your original post. Was just confirming. 👍

@blackknight22-tn8bw 8 ай бұрын

Funny thing is that this guy single handedly turned more people away from veganism than any anti-vegan youtuber out there

@Legitpenguins99 8 ай бұрын

Its almost like being an arrogant cunt hurts your cause

@mrmhj9925 8 ай бұрын

Probably because they don’t wanna be a fuckin looney bin like this.

@TheLazyLemmon 8 ай бұрын

He definitely made me interested in veganism. If you actually watch his content, he's pretty chill.

@max3eey 8 ай бұрын

@@TheLazyLemmon you are a minority then

@mayconlcruz 8 ай бұрын

@@TheLazyLemmon You can be a chill person, while at the same time demonstrating sociopathic behaviors and weaponize veganism. Nothing new under the sun.

@woventheweird 8 ай бұрын

I really appreciate him being open about possible sociopathy. I wish more people who lack empathy were like that

@imortalsharingan2146 8 ай бұрын

Unfortunately that plays against the sociopath, giving them no real reason to divulge that sort of info

@dendrien 8 ай бұрын

his unhinged. but i highly doubt his a sociopath consider that hes never actually harmed anyone. if anything he talks the talk without walk the walk. if he genuinly could easily hurt someone hed done it long ago, which he havent which is the opposite a sociopath would actually do. heres a little fun fact when people refer or mention homocidal urge or rage. it means you have the tendency to easily act upon set action that comes in your mind. thats what it means. his entire so called anger issue is a constant contradictory. i bet about all of it is bullshit. if anything he embellish everything he says for views and it works.

@rachaeljones4731 8 ай бұрын

There’s a few people on quote - one specifically - who openly talks about their sociopathy in a very candid, unabashed, informative manner. I find them very interesting and knowledgeable.

@PeterT1 8 ай бұрын

Worst thumbnails in the game, Turkey Tizzom!!!!!

@TheStreamThatJakeBuilt 8 ай бұрын

@@imortalsharingan2146my brother has sociopathy, thats not how it works lmfao. Most of them recognize that about themselves

@jeannedeaux540 7 ай бұрын

I really like how V.G. is calm and all. He has a very clear speech. It's a great change from when he threatens to beat people up, or turn babies into a pulp under his feet. Sadly, I also find this calm somewhat threatening because of the outburst we've seen in the past. You always wonder at what point he will break and suddenly decide to punch you one step away from death.

@aboliokhazana7022 5 ай бұрын

Dude is all talk and no bite. Someone who intially tries to potray themselves as a tough boy pretty quickly find out if they actually are tough or just a poser compensating for low self-esteem. After that (if they have not gotten themselves killed by acting the fool), hopefully they do some self-reflection and drop the facade. People like vegan gains however is incapable of self-reflection, and eventually he says something to the wrong person and it's lights out. Reminds me of all those SJW's who ran around talking shit and then get completely flabbergasted when they receive a assbeating.

@DarkAngel3280 7 ай бұрын

This is the type of person who would save a grizzly bear instead of a human, only to then have the grizzly bear eat him for lunch.

@MartinProductions 8 ай бұрын

Happy Turkey day, Turkey Tom.

@Orthgnl 8 ай бұрын

real

@bothermenone 8 ай бұрын

But Turkey Tom was never a Turkey, was he?

@davidcurry332 8 ай бұрын

Happy turkey day everyone eat turkey 🦃 😅and be well Un like this woke beta 😅idiot

@turboshazed7370 8 ай бұрын

@@bothermenonehe is today.

@666slateran666 8 ай бұрын

Damn, was about to say the same 😂

@TheEggSlayer 8 ай бұрын

you're vegan becuase you "love animals". I'm Vegan becuase i hate plants. We are NOT the same.

@Shinobubu 8 ай бұрын

Vegetables are weak defenseless creatures. easy prey.

@Ballerman94 8 ай бұрын

@@Shinobubu LMAO

@LunarLocust 8 ай бұрын

@Shinobubu when you eat vegetables, nobody bats an eye. When I eat vegetables, I get fired from the coma ward.

@hunterzolomon1303 8 ай бұрын

Just in this section, please continue with ur veggie puns

@accidentallyamy1063 8 ай бұрын

@@Shinobubuyou shouldn’t talk about coma patients that way, but I commend your undefeated streak 🙌

@schizosamurai8840 3 ай бұрын

>apparently had out of body experience that made him experience oneness with the universe >is a die-hard extremist for his cause, fighting the long fight > *says he is nihilist* So...did no one told him what nihilism is, or is he just utterly redarded?

@thisisdowntime8231 2 ай бұрын

I come back to this channel every couple of months to binge new vids. Insanely high quality content my dude

@endorsishorn 8 ай бұрын

Holy shit this is crazy. I appreciate that you’re willing to talk the people you commentate on instead of just spectating at them like animals.

@Based_Gigachad_001 8 ай бұрын

I will eat all the turkey and ham at thanksgiving dinner just because of this guy.

@jasebaz9941 8 ай бұрын

@OfficerBMTThere's nothing valuable about anything on your channel. Ropemaxx

@DGAMINGDE 8 ай бұрын

@@Based_Gigachad_001 Am I the only one who thinks its weird to change ones opinion on veganism due to such psychopaths. Do or dont do it for your own reasons. Probably a joke, but there are actual people doing that.

@Lt.Impossible 8 ай бұрын

@OfficerBMT didn't ask

@ARandomComment123 8 ай бұрын

shitty ragebait will get your channel nowhere @OfficerBMT

@bendovabich4690 8 ай бұрын

This video is way less hit piece and more measured and detailed Criticism but also explains the subject's view point in the most honest way possible. Would really love to see more content like this and the increased time and effort it takes definitely is worth it when it comes to the quality of the Video. Well Done! Definitely not what I was expecting and I am happy to he surprised!

@banger320 8 ай бұрын

It helps that when tom reached out to gains, gains offered to just hangout and go eat with tom. Like a blessing or a "sure whatever dude" when told about a video on you would be fine. But vegan seemed forthcoming with tom about the whole thing. At least thats what i gleamed from when tom started talking to vegan during destinys streams. One day they're shooting the shit, the next vegans like "hey destiny me and tom are gonna go out to eat, you wanna join?"

@MrGFloyd 8 ай бұрын

He needs to do a Harvey Weinstein one bc i honestly think that guy gets a bad wrap

@automaton2953 8 ай бұрын

@@MrGFloyd🧐

@waffestompinusa3857 8 ай бұрын

@@MrGFloydI see what you did there

@CoalCoalJames 8 ай бұрын

@@MrGFloyd You did an unintentional truth~ Harvey was Hollywood's god and most everyone played the game and got what they wanted from the exchanges, metoo was just an excuse for all those that took the deal to go back on it and portray themselves as the victims instead of willing participants. And now that it's years alter most of the founders of Metoo where confirmed to have literally abused young and teenage boys. (The reason Anthony Bordain killed himself, when he found out his wife and mother to his daughter one of the founders of metoo had abused boys.)

@Cintzo 7 ай бұрын

Hey Tom, love the new format. If by any chance you happen to read this comment, I just want to point out that maybe you shouldn't explain so much in V.O. what your subject is about to say in his interview. There are lots of instances in this video where you explain in detail what Richard says afterwards in the podcast/interview. Being said, I like a lot this new direction you're taking. Maybe it isn't the first you've done but it's the first i've seen. Thanks for the great content, hope to see more of this sort of projects from you.

@HulkIncredible81 Ай бұрын

Oh...and awesome video. I've been sort of binging your content and your research and effort out into these videos is impressive

@voidfish4224 8 ай бұрын

This is a weirdly specific thing to focus on, but to say that Yellowstone was doing just fine without wolves is an insane take. It's extremely well-documented and is one of the best examples of *why* predators are important to an ecosystem. When wolves were wiped out of Yellowstone, elk and coyote populations exploded. Elks overgrazed on grasses and trees which loosed the soil and drove out songbirds. The soil became less stable and the river banks eroded, eventually driving out beavers as well. Not only that, but the elk's overgrazing also affected bighorn sheep, bison, moose, and mule deer, to name a few. By reintroducing wolves, beavers and aspen trees came back to Yellowstone, and more vegetation became available. In fact, the reintroduction of wolves to Yellowstone is widely regarded as one of the greatest ecological successes in recent history. By taking wolves out of Yellowstone, we broke the equilibrium and dramatically affected the ecosystem in a negative way. I'm not going to claim I'm an expert in any regard, but I AM an ecology student and it's so frustrating to see such a poorly informed take when the information is literally at his fingertips. He just ignored the facts of the situation to try and further his claim.

@CharlieTheTexan 8 ай бұрын

I was shouting at the screen at that point in the video. Of all the examples that exist (wild boar, for example), he could've found a better one.

@idvdump 8 ай бұрын

A lot of the people in this movement of deleting predators (which is unfortunately gaining traction) do not believe Yellowstone had any issues without wolves. They believe all the research on it is bogus. That's why he's so confident saying that.

@dismurrart6648 8 ай бұрын

I can genuinely understand vegans thinking humans shouldn't eat meat. I disagree but I can understand why they think that. To think no predators is the ideal is so genuinely stupid. Creatures evolved to have predators and they can't just say "wow, since last summer, my kids have been more likely to survive. I better start only having 1 kid a year." No they're still going to have their hundreds of kids, the sickly would live longer and pass on issues. Predators are necessary and natural.

@Sadmiral 8 ай бұрын

@@dismurrart6648 why do you disagree that humans shouldn't eat meat? I mean sure if it's lab-grown I can understand that, but by funding animal agriculture you are funding the unnecessary and massive environmental damage of animal agriculture (burning down rainforests, ocean deadzones, one of the largest contributors to climate change, species extinction...) and funding the suffering and death of trillions of animals annually due to supply and demand why do you disagree? Unless you think it's somehow unsustainable or unhealthy? If so could you provide those arguments?

@dismurrart6648 8 ай бұрын

@@Sadmiralit's not possible for humans to not use animals. For modern society to exist, you need billions of pounds of oil a year to keep the world functioning. You go fully plant based and you cause the entire world ecosystem to collapse. You destroy modern society, and you need animals to be able to survive. Beyond that, I don't think it's immoral for an omnivore to eat as an omnivore. Animals should be protected but that's not the goal of veganism. Veganism isn't an objection to suffering or agave abandon cashews wouldn't be tied to veganism. It's a hyperreaction to our fear of death. It's rejection of the natural for a life that can only be sustained with modern medicines.

@Kaosi 8 ай бұрын

"I wanted him to see his death coming" Tom : *NERVOUS LAUGHTER*

@MainerMMA 8 ай бұрын

The guy needs to be put in an asylum. We need to bring those back asap

@thecompareablezombie 8 ай бұрын

After specific things have stopped happening.

@thatonepipsqueak887 2 ай бұрын

@@MainerMMA Forget Asylums. Reinstate the Death Penalty!

@gothkurata 6 ай бұрын

even with how insane this whole situation is, what really caught me was "we should give animals rights. Oh, but not carnivores though, we should kill those." like how are you going to "advocate for animal rights" if youre not gonna advocate for all animals? Btw, this would mean that cats, despite being pets and are carnivores, would be on the list for "termination" like the man does not know what hes talking about.

@Jay-qu2bc 6 ай бұрын

Because carnivores kill other animals. I don’t think the argument is inconsistent.

@BrotherBarakiel996 5 ай бұрын

Its a constant one, but stupid none the less@@Jay-qu2bc

@mrlloydval2887 5 ай бұрын

@@BrotherBarakiel996 Is it also stupid when police officers kill the criminal to stop them from murdering civilians?

@That1artguy. 3 ай бұрын

@@mrlloydval2887not at all, considering killing carnivores would ruin the eco system.

@Criteon 3 ай бұрын

U don’t see his point cause ur a kid

@supersonic5973 5 ай бұрын

This was a fantastic video. Richard actually seems like a likable guy in person.

@BrownEyedBeauty2008 8 ай бұрын

There's something so funny about sitting down with someone and having a real heart to heart conversation about veganism and animal rights and then naming the video "KZfaq's Most Psychotic Vegan" 😂

@Yourebeautyfull 8 ай бұрын

Yeah I noticed that also... At the end of the video they are getting along really well, almost as if they are becoming best friends. I really wonder how the interaction would go if they met each other again after he watched his video. Honestly, it looks pretty obvious from his behavior that the guy seems to have invested a lot on his anger issues over the years, so I don't expect he would beat him up or anything like that. I just wonder if he would still be as open as we see him in this video. Though I also think he wasn't being an idiot, and knew upfront that his history with aggression would be mentioned in the video. I just don't think this would have been the ideal headline he would have hoped for as an introduction to his personality :P

@aae.619 7 ай бұрын

@@Yourebeautyfull They appeared on Destiny's panel show Kick or Keep this week and seems like they're still good buddies

@louisrackler 7 ай бұрын

Did you watch the entire video? Richard is very respectful, intelligent, and articulate- but he definitely is psychotic. The context of the video matters, Tom intentionally put this man's history of online (and real) disputes to show he is pretty unreasonable. Even if you agree with his stance that we should be killing apex predators, which is delusional and unrealistic, you can't agree that his nonchalant approach to saying he would absolutely murder people if he could, that the only reason he DIDN'T kill people is because he was going to get put in jail, and telling people who are going through immediate losses of family members that they deserved it are normal in the slightest. Yes, they did have a heart to heart, no, they doesn't mean this man isn't psychotic.

@diy_cat9817 7 ай бұрын

Him not flipping that table and throttling Tom doesn't change the fact that Richard is psychotic.

@Barbarossa_F 7 ай бұрын

He's definitely a psycho

@deviousredneck5109 8 ай бұрын

Tom is great at interviewing people. He has really grown as a great content creator. It’s been great watching him grow into what he has.

@snegluf 8 ай бұрын

Very true, it takes a lot of effort to not give all your own opinions to someone when interviewing them

@ash.r9k 8 ай бұрын

Not glazing hard enough

@zzxgj 8 ай бұрын

@@ash.r9kyou right next time I’ll make a mess

@h5l364 8 ай бұрын

the interview is good but the video is trash, why do we need each segment to be narrated by the turkey then again by vegan

@Macheako 8 ай бұрын

@@zzxgj that’s all we ask ❤

@dkozel 7 ай бұрын

You're goated for this one Tommy boy. Legends, both of you.

@toolegittoquit_001 7 ай бұрын

‘Thou shall not commit murder’ Why do they always get that wrong ?

@jasonhahn8797 Ай бұрын

Very true.

@AppleOfThineEye 10 күн бұрын

In their defense, it is often mistranslated.

@DeadAccount_CC1 8 ай бұрын

Turkey Tom's the kind of guy to wake up in the morning, then proceed to breathe oxygen and drink water throughout the day.

@TheMsdos25 8 ай бұрын

Water? Im pretty sure he only drinks Monster.

@superfarful 8 ай бұрын

hell yeah dude

@dontbahater394 8 ай бұрын

Ok. I gotta respect the dude for not haveing kids.... We all know he is mentally unwell, and his parents where obviously crazy. That shit passes down. He knows he wont love his kid so he wont have one, ending his bloodline that is cursed with this mental defect.... I gotta respect it.

@BrunoMalmann 8 ай бұрын

he probably is unfertile from being vegan anyway

@wordnado9788 8 ай бұрын

I am not having kids, and people tell me I will die alone. I have amazing friends and their kids are kinda my kids. I care for them and leave my wealth to them

@thespartan2902 8 ай бұрын

no one asked@@wordnado9788

@newtonmarques1271 8 ай бұрын

@@wordnado9788 i mean leaving your wealth to them is 100% cucked, but to each someone else's own.

@insertnamehere6191 8 ай бұрын

@@newtonmarques1271 And where do you suppose they should put their wealth instead? If they aren't going to have kids and they die, I think it's the best decision instead of letting the state claim it.

@Demiurgos.Michael 5 ай бұрын

I love how he just compares everyone in his life to South Park characters

@rudya8504 6 ай бұрын

This is like talking with someone who's there but also has a few screws lose, you can tell something or a combination of events in his life just fucked him up to a point where there's something off but you can't quite tell what it is.

@derekm424 5 ай бұрын

Well, at least he got a vasectomy....😅

@shr1mpsush1 8 ай бұрын

It shouldn't be possible to make Onision look the most sane man in the room

@moufronn 8 ай бұрын

moufronn

@Ic3xx0 8 ай бұрын

I legit gasped when I saw this comment...

@shadowsonshadowson3929 8 ай бұрын

If that’s the case, it’s by a millimeter at best.

@MariKyuu 8 ай бұрын

"This is my vegetarian BODYYYYYYYYY!" - Onision

@christopherkinsella3912 8 ай бұрын

Eh, I’m not too far into the video yet but the vegan doesn’t fuck kids, to my knowledge. Onion grease is still worse.

@Blind_Hawk 8 ай бұрын

Huge respect for Turkey Tom to actually show both perspectives and being so based to actually make an interview with him and ask questions not judging.

@BackyardDuelist 7 ай бұрын

May you answer a quick question. Is based now a good term? Like being based in your comment sounds like a compliment

@Blind_Hawk 7 ай бұрын

Always has been... Why should it be negative? @@BackyardDuelist

@BackyardDuelist 7 ай бұрын

@Blind_Hawk it 100% has not always been like that. Based was used to call someone basic, someone who has no original thought or anything that makes them unique. Essentially an NPC

@Blind_Hawk 7 ай бұрын

That's literally made up, based is the opposite what you are describing. You describe a normie or as you said it NPC... @@BackyardDuelist

@fuzzit 7 ай бұрын

Normally I would appreciate and respect the effort getting both sides of an argument. Vegan Gains is NOT deserving of that and absolutely IS deserving of judgment. He says he hates hypocrites and in the same breath will say all life is precious and then say how much he wants to murder people. He's a walking contradiction

@josephwhiskeybeale 7 ай бұрын

Probably the best video I’ve seen looking at Vegan Gains

@adrianblanchard416 3 ай бұрын

Found you through watching destiny, you seem like a really wholesome dude and hard worker, just subscribed ❤

@Semorebooty 8 ай бұрын

As a former cannibal i never push my beliefs on anyone, you do you, you eat what you want to eat

@TheKillingJoker1980 8 ай бұрын

Did ur mum taste like u imagined?

@nolancampbell4451 8 ай бұрын

Amen

@matthewpitre8159 8 ай бұрын

You are what you eat!

@thevoicesaregettinglouder16 8 ай бұрын

Meat is meat

@Blackatchaproduction 8 ай бұрын

plants scream when you cut them. all sorts of animals get killed while harvesting your shitty grains as well so...

@Doctorolivercook 8 ай бұрын

That "Eating a Chicken" ad. Did PETA really make this stupid ad?! Because if they did... Talking about the size of a child's... Third leg raises VERY concerning questions.

@ASSASINE0 6 ай бұрын

the fact he doesnt like apex predators is so ridicioulous, letting preds die out would collapse the ecosystems and by that would kill or change the rest of wildlife with the human having to intervene by killing again.

@Achromatic_0 6 ай бұрын

i like this form of interviews, just meeting the guy in person and hanging out. i feel like a lot of people could settle their differences if they were to just take the time to get to know eachother better and try to understand where the other is coming from. also, a lot of people are actually pretty nice people, even if they have the opposite opinion from yours on a certain topic.

@blazeboy798 8 ай бұрын

This was a very well made video. As someone who doesn’t hold much of an opinion on Richard. I found it very fascinating to watch and come to understand him and things better. This is why I keep coming back to this channel. Amazing stuff man.

@TurkeyTom 8 ай бұрын

thank u!

@kingj9664 8 ай бұрын

@@TurkeyTom In the beginning of the video when you said you didn't know any other vegans does that mean you don't know about toss Peterson AKA vegan b**** or the most famous of all vegan teacher

@therealbigjerm444 8 ай бұрын

@@flaatheaad7544i would like him more probs

@rochae0343 7 ай бұрын

The amount of jokes that didn’t land with him was alarming and I feared for your safety lmao

@caliglid 7 ай бұрын

he’s autistic…

@valentinbezdan570 6 ай бұрын

He got the jokes, that's just his personality and humor type. He's very dry.

@rise-my-angel 7 ай бұрын

Its almost impressive how Richard manages to say the most insane shit I've ever heard but in the most bizarre way that ends up making it funny. He's like a cartoon character in the way he talks

@peropaffu 6 ай бұрын

i remember him from 2016 and leafy omg this is a throwback

@benweinstein7140 7 ай бұрын

The only thing worse than hearing a Vegan Gains childhood story? Hearing it twice. Holy F, I’m not going to be able to make it through this one.

@samson7294 7 ай бұрын

TRUE!!! That editorial choice made so much of this documentary feel like such a drag

@ashleywilkonson386 6 ай бұрын

It’s so annoying that he recaps a snippet of words that VG says and then shows the snippet. It makes the narration completely redundant… 😒

@Trollololololful 6 ай бұрын

Didn't understand that either. Just show the raw interview and let him tell his story.

@BobBuilder-vn4ux 6 ай бұрын

It is the most lazy thing I have ever seen. At the least, Turkey should have started telling the beginning part of the clip, then cut to VG ending it. And this video is 1 hour and 40 minutes. It’s not like he needed to milk extra time. I am truly baffled that he wrote and edited that together. Do they not watch their own videos?

@HatKidPeck 6 ай бұрын

Rare TurkeyTom L

@TheHeartThatRunsCold 8 ай бұрын

Tom the kind of guy to laugh in the face of a psychopath.

@FullbringerQuincyGlazeGod 8 ай бұрын

Shit he just had a 1+ hour interview with one.😂

@moufronn 8 ай бұрын

moufronn

@_WalterWhite 8 ай бұрын

@@moufronnOkay buddy… you need to shut up 😂😂😂😅😅😅

@Astrid-cc3mg 8 ай бұрын

I’m hoping some of the laughs were the awkward “wth am I listening to and doing here”

@Paprikacha 8 ай бұрын

"I eat meat, I don't feel bad about it. Maybe a little but not enough to stop" while one foot away from future Vegan Hannibal. Tom bold as fuck.

@nameofthegame9664 7 ай бұрын

He should have renamed his channel to 'Vegan stopped making gains' a long time ago.

@RaymondSK10 4 ай бұрын

He’s off the gear lmao

@hampuztt 6 күн бұрын

He just benched 405 natty. What are you on about

@malachipaul5078 7 ай бұрын

Interesting question would have been what if an animal died naturally but was still fresh enough to eat? Would that be morally okay since it lived it's life but died a natural death too. There would have been no mistreatment of the animal.

@derekm424 5 ай бұрын

Id eat it... Just sayin

@14branflake 8 ай бұрын

Tom's humor with VG's deadpan reactions are hysterical. I want streams of them just hanging out tbh.

@user_abuser_o7 7 ай бұрын

The painful subconscious irony of him calling people out for exploiting others for their agenda only to literally do the same that goes completely unnoticed lol

@zorkin2013 5 ай бұрын

Yeah, I wanted Tom to bring up the thing with his Grandpa dying when they were talking about the guy supporting the kid with Cancer for clout. How do you not see you are the exact same

@kuramamastah5270 6 ай бұрын

The Francis Of The Filth clip has set the ground in a way no other clip would, I really miss how between controversies there was actual lore

@TheKhakikid 7 ай бұрын

This format made for great content, Tom.

@catman2136 8 ай бұрын

The fact that he uploaded a documentary about a vegan guy on Thanksgiving is the funniest thing to me 😂

@acethirtysix8378 8 ай бұрын

Common Turkey W

@moufronn 8 ай бұрын

moufronn

@vegageorge_vegan_texas_1998 8 ай бұрын

Go vegan

@plantbasedpira 8 ай бұрын

Vegans can enjoy thanksgiving too? lol

@Drako9823 8 ай бұрын

@@vegageorge_vegan_texas_1998 No.

@grimgrahamch.4157 8 ай бұрын

You know you're a sociopath when you're more flat-voiced than Charlie.

@registeredjopper 8 ай бұрын

does Charlie have apd?

@DeadAccount_CC1 8 ай бұрын

@@registeredjopper I'm 99% sure that he doesn't lmao.. A monotonous voice isn't necessarily indicative of that either

@grimgrahamch.4157 8 ай бұрын

@@registeredjopper no, but he hardly shows emotion.

@truthhammer69 8 ай бұрын

@@grimgrahamch.4157 Who gives a fk? Emotions are for npcs, superhumans use reason.

@WisdomAkpan211 8 ай бұрын

@@grimgrahamch.4157he used to not show emotions. But ever since last year, he laughs, smiles, emotes, does silly dances and expressions etc. He's not the monotonous robot he used to be for a decade straight

@natsinnett9751 4 ай бұрын

The dead calm demeanor while saying the most outrageous disturbing shit is crazy

@Apeisfuckinginsane- 7 ай бұрын

This is just my perspective, having watched this video, and a few others on Richard. It seems like he definitely is scathing, and a very angry man, but considering the heart-to-heart interview, maybe thats changing. I haven't seen anything incredibly recent from him aside from this(Last thing I believe was Charlie's Controversy with him), but i do hope this is genuine, and that he's getting better, that he's giving a genuine effort to be a better person!

@realgreyfish 8 ай бұрын

i genuinely think this is one of your best videos yet tom, the in person segments really humanized Richard, great video man, really hope to see more like this from you, you handle in person “interviews” like this very well, in a way that doesn’t feel super robotic and hyper professional but still looks and sounds very professionally done. well done man. keep it up

@nauseaceo 7 ай бұрын

i agree it all felt so real like you were out with ur friends

@HerSoyJak 7 ай бұрын

He covered the hersovyac Hansamuman situation so he has my respect

@CharlesTheFearsomeTrain117 8 ай бұрын

And we all thought That Vegan Teacher was the craziest vegan person. Edit: 1k likes? Nice

@Orthgnl 8 ай бұрын

real

@ab-gail 8 ай бұрын

Clearly you haven’t seen John Sakars.

@avamelchior4302 8 ай бұрын

In the world of vegans… you never know what could happen.

@Renkencen 8 ай бұрын

It does make me wonder what happened if the two were to meet each other either online or irl?

@sigmamale4147 8 ай бұрын

There is always a crazier vegan somewhere

@fie4426 6 ай бұрын

It would be hard to guess what issues he really has. I wish a psychologist would evaluate him.

@derekm424 5 ай бұрын

Id pay to see that psych evaluation the police made him get.

@bboyfocus12 5 ай бұрын

its not that hard to guess, hes disconnected, fairly lacking empathy , only cares about his own goals, anti social disorder spectrum with some autism maybe

@AppleOfThineEye 10 күн бұрын

As someone with Asperger's, I assure you, Richard does *not* have it.

@patigelstarberry4302 8 ай бұрын

I like how regarding his grandfather's heart attack, he implies his "bad diet" is to blame, but the guy was 82, which is way above average life expectancy for a male. So because of his "bad diet" he live a long and mostly healthy life.

@jonathangoodwin5609 8 ай бұрын

That's not 'way above'. That's 'slightly above'.

@ogolthorp 8 ай бұрын

@@jonathangoodwin5609for a black male born when he was? Yeah, it’s pretty high.

@wontonschannel 8 ай бұрын

@@jonathangoodwin5609 generalizing his age and the year he was born, the life expectancy would have been around 60 years old for a man. So pretty notable increase

@nickreynolds9745 8 ай бұрын

Seems like pretty maladjusted coping at the least, he’d benefit from therapy if he was willing to go.

@smiley4995 8 ай бұрын

True but as he said his original reason wasn't truly why he wanted to do it

@SwaggyG_2102 8 ай бұрын

On the day that people would be eating turkey, Turkey Tom decides to upload a video of KZfaq's most psychotic vegan. _I see what you did there._

@moufronn 8 ай бұрын

moufronn

@Ulsaf 8 ай бұрын

Should be a tradition now for Tom to make turkey day some wild documentary drop.

@SurrogateActivities 7 ай бұрын

He's afraid of babies because he looks like an overgrown one

@derekm424 5 ай бұрын

Looks or acts, or both lol? At least he got a vasectomy... Don't have to worry about mini this guys running around

@garrettnewton2220 6 ай бұрын

It made me so happy to see Tom wearing an a day to remember shirt

@selphconscious 8 ай бұрын

.. you gotta be gaslighting the vegan teacher with that ".. I don't even know any other vegans online" lmfao.. 💀💀

@diggsfather 8 ай бұрын

i'm ngl i had completely forgot about her before this video

@DiahRhiaJones 8 ай бұрын

@@diggsfather None of us have or will ever forget the animals you torture and murder every day.

@atlandfrisk 8 ай бұрын

i forgot about her untill we was eating at the table for thanksgiving, we somehow started talking about vegans@@diggsfather

@BlackJacked 8 ай бұрын

That Vegan Punching-Bag

@joshuafraley21 8 ай бұрын

Yellowstone had to re-introduce wolves due to overpopulation of their prey animals leading to eco collapse from starvation. So his Yellowstone argument is bunk

@kokobopjammer2571 5 ай бұрын

I'm an avid wolfquest player (I knew about the Yellowstone wolves because of the game) and the way I cringed when he brought up Yellowstone 💀

@Criteon 3 ай бұрын

@@kokobopjammer2571he came to this conclusion through debates his most recent one talking about this was with scientific snitch who literally stopped talking cause she had no response to his argument that’s how all of you guys would look if u tried to correct someone who’s actually right and been debating this stuff for years 😭

@kokobopjammer2571 3 ай бұрын

@@Criteon dude. Hes not gonna pick you. Stop coming to his defense like a sad white knight

@Criteon 3 ай бұрын

@@kokobopjammer2571 he’s not gonna pick me? Are u 12? Ur literally spreading misinformation, ur the bottom of the barrel, u literally got ur info from a game, and im the one who you feel sorry for? Ur lost

@Criteon 3 ай бұрын

@@kokobopjammer2571 mostly it’s you that’s the problem, so confident and wrong and the same time, I had to respond to the cringe I’d love to see u pop into his stream and try to debate him, any viewer can challenge him anytime if you have a discord. Tell him ur a wolf quest player he’ll take you more seriously

@snowdoll622 3 ай бұрын

The way Turkey Tom has himself drawn vs how he looks in real life is crazy 😭

@voidisboxking9947 6 ай бұрын

His comparison of carnivorous animals to nazis had me absolutely dumbfounded. This man is fascinatingly insane.

@zombiepenguin7134 8 ай бұрын

This man did what other channels couldn't. Props to you, Turkish Thomas.

@bb-double-yuh 8 ай бұрын

Bro, I know a guy named "Turkish Tom". Met him in St. Louis, and his first name was spelled "Tomas". 😂

@Aristocraticgobo 8 ай бұрын

i agree tau man, i agree.

@wormcollects 8 ай бұрын

I think he’s definitely neurodivergent, as an austitic person myself, his insane dedication, passion and knowledge on the topic is very in line with a special interest alongside being a lifestyle. His empathy towards animals being much larger than that towards humans, and lack of social awareness when not understanding or particularly caring about ‘socially incorrect’ ways of interacting with a situation (laughing at death, being very outspoken, double/tripling down on controversial opinions) leave me heavily convinced that he is on the spectrum. With toned down anger, management of emotions and any attempts to take a second to practice empathy, I could definitely see him succeeding in projecting his message. If not to change others lifestyles, then just to start discussion. While I did not take changing to a vegan life from his message, it definitely made me think about my dietary choices in terms of animal produce and how they may effect my body in the long run. I hope he takes time to learn, grow and adapt, because in the 1-1 conversations with turkey Tom, he has a great sense of expressing himself and his views

@matthewpitre8159 8 ай бұрын

I actually agree with you this is probably the most intelligent comment here

@xxthatsnotmexx 8 ай бұрын

I have ASD and I agree. I used to watch him.

@thundabearz5092 8 ай бұрын

Everybody's a fuckin' autist these days.

@DeadBarbarian 8 ай бұрын

This is the perfect example of the separation of mental illness and moral character

@xxthatsnotmexx 8 ай бұрын

@@DeadBarbarian Autism isn't a mental illnesses, it's a neurodevelopmental disorder.

@somerandomguy2316 6 ай бұрын

Dude I remember the old drama between this dude and leafy. Ah the good old days

@ignatiusjackson235 5 ай бұрын

1:05:44 Former line cook here. That statement is Bullshit with a capital B. I've been forced to serve meat substitutes, of several varieties, and not a single one of them taste better than meat. At best, it's passable. I don't know if Charlie has eaten anywhere besides McDonald's, frankly. Nobody who has EVER had a real, med-rare steak would ever make such a patently false claim. I suspect that he's just trying to avoid an arrow to the cranium from Sir Richard the Lionbrained here. It's baffling.

@michaelscrilla125 8 ай бұрын

Dang. That pencil case back in 4th grade in Ms Fry's class was more important to you than I thought. I'm really sorry, Richard.

@lindboknifeandtool 8 ай бұрын

He learned about the world that day

@kalypso4133 8 ай бұрын

missed opportunity to call him Dick xDD

@Larkos212 7 ай бұрын

I love when you explain the story and then put a full clip of vegan gains explaining the same situation to you after

@valk4657 5 ай бұрын

i thought i was going crazy bro ty

@nathanjacobs1468 5 ай бұрын

Yeah, Tom is citing his sources.

@goobert221 4 ай бұрын

Why does he need to explain it? He had it all on KZfaq

@summerbummer1930 4 ай бұрын

Lol right. An intro or summary or something, sure. But that was unnecessarily repetitive which made it slightly annoying. >

@palmspirit1833 6 ай бұрын

3:42 is such a good impersonation of VG.

@Qzechmate 8 ай бұрын

This is all of the vegan stereotypes put into one person and amplified by 500x

@Based_Gigachad_001 8 ай бұрын

He's your average vegan. It's just that most of them are silent.

@DaMeowster 8 ай бұрын

Idk most vegans I know don't even mention it unless it's actually relevant. But I do love the "vegans try not to mention being vegan" memes@@Based_Gigachad_001

@dorjuan 8 ай бұрын

Not really on the topic, but I absolutely love that you have Power in your pfp while talking about vegans🙏

@Based_Gigachad_001 8 ай бұрын

@@dorjuan why?

@dorjuan 8 ай бұрын

@@Based_Gigachad_001 she despises vegetables AND makes it a problem for people around her, so, sorta mirrors the vegan meme

@amyhannis1440 8 ай бұрын

'Kill all carnivourous animals' is the most insane take I have ever heard

@cynicalidealist11 8 ай бұрын

That’s not what the take is 🤦‍♂️that’s a straw man. You and the other people who liked your comment either weren’t paying attention or are being deliberately obtuse. His view is that it’s good to kill carnivores in specific instances where it would reduce overall rights violations. When people actually attempt to argue against this position in live debates they fail hilariously, in fact, even Vegan Gains himself tried to argue against it with Dr Avi (the man who originally presented this view) and Vegan Gains ended up failing to defeat Dr Avi in that debate (which you can still find on KZfaq btw), and because Vegan Gains is intellectually honest he changed his position after that debate and adopted Dr Avi’s view. Are you also intellectually honest enough to engage with the proponents of the view directly or are you content just asserting it’s insane with no actual rebuttal or argument?

@Blo0draven172 8 ай бұрын

@@cynicalidealist11 dude relax and have a burger

@Blo0draven172 8 ай бұрын

⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@@cynicalidealist11 may I ask if we watched the same video? You claim vegan gains is intellectually honest yet we watch a clip where he flat out skips the line about lobsters having a brain.

@godofrock117 8 ай бұрын

He's a pretty insane person.

@thealmightyjack 8 ай бұрын

@@cynicalidealist11 name says it all. Bro has the IQ in the double digits

@mitchellmoris6729 6 ай бұрын

We had to watch dominion for a university course once. It made me go veggie for at least a week. Great film though if this is the type of diet you want to pursue

@TheWeebinar 19 күн бұрын

I would marry the editing in this video, it looks good and it's intelligent.

@walterwang4669 8 ай бұрын

It would be sick for Tom to do something like this more in the future.

@WargBlarg 8 ай бұрын

For a dude who constantly lectures people about morals, its ironic but not so surprising that he nearly committed murder on multiple occasions but, according to him, only failed to go through with it simply because he didn't want to go to jail.

@censored116 8 ай бұрын

Tbf he was like what, 6 and a teenager?

@ClickClack_Bam 8 ай бұрын

The more you learn about VG, the more you'll see that he will do WHATEVER he wants to & he'll justify it all, but he'll damn you to hell for you doing the same thing. Like he uses steroids despite talking shit on ever aspect of bodybuilding etc. He was starting to wither away like every other Vegan & he was really bothered by the trolling he was getting so he started taking steroids to gain size. It bothered him that he couldn't gain size being a true vegan so he started taking steroids to gain size he denies this because he wants people to think you can gain size as a vegan but you CAN'T get to his size as a vegan. You'd need to take gear.

@ScarletWFire 8 ай бұрын

@@censored116 psychotic behavior at a young age. That only proves he wasn't even born with morals lol

@V_Deity 8 ай бұрын

@@ClickClack_Bam evidence of steroid use? Evidence that vegans "wither away"?

@obamna225 8 ай бұрын

wait why are the steroids bad? i don't know much about the dietary side of veganism so i can't contest those claims but i don't see why doing steroids is necessarily bad? people are allowed to engage in behaviours like that if they don't hurt others right? @@ClickClack_Bam

@donutwarry2679 7 ай бұрын

Buddies dust. Straight bender. Never gone top cheddar, flipping pizzas up the middle, dishing sui passes to all his guys. Get him off the team.

@jaikai4989 7 ай бұрын

Turkey Tom you’ve done it again I spend hours watching these videos

@brandon0sh 8 ай бұрын

I'm glad to see that Tom is as cringe in real life as he is in the videos keep up the great work, man

@iridescentsea3730 7 ай бұрын

Bro I'm not gonna be shamed for not caring enough about other species by an individual who doesn't even have care for his own species. It's just a ridiculously twisted worldview to hold.

@silentgenocide1991 4 ай бұрын

The irony of saying you care about another species whilst displaying none towards your own is lost on this clown

@tmbpotatoe5975 3 ай бұрын

Basically a "if he dosen't care about us, then why is he making us care about him" kinda thing

@D1rtyD3bra 3 ай бұрын

No not really. Saying its twisted presupposes that humans aren't worthy of that care. I'm sure VeganGains cares about other vegans the way he cares about animals but meat eating humans can be viewed as especially vile creatures given they have the moral agency to not harm animals and yet they choose to do so. Now I am not a vegan but his position is consistent and makes sense. If it truly is immoral to kill animals then all animal farming has been the biggest mass killing/torture/slavery ever. It makes sense to hate that yk?

@tmbpotatoe5975 3 ай бұрын

@@D1rtyD3bra that's a big *if* you're implying, and *if* that's true then VeganGains would also hate animals since animals kills animals, which would make him a massive hypocrite or just morally inconsistent. also moral agency doesn't really matter when people need to eat meat to survive, if there was a good alternative that everyone could pick that would be way better than animals then moral agency would now be a factor in this discussion, but as of now it can't be used just yet.

@jobo2243 3 ай бұрын

@tmbpotatoe5975 Its really not a big if and very easy to find out if thats what your moral system suggests. Do you think beating a dog is wrong? Do you think killing cats for fun is wrong? If yes then your moral system would align with killing animals for taste pleasrue is wrong espeically when you buy meat from the grocery store where those animals get treated a million times worse. You can point and yell yucky all you want but vegan gains being disagreeable doesnt give you a pass to pretend not to be a hypocrite. Nor does your logic work in any meaningful way other than appealing to your emotions. The most evil man to ever exist could shame you for graping a child just because hes 100x worse doesnt mean it isnt a valid complaint or shouldnt be addressed. Lets use our brains and not our feelings guys.

@xslashkillerxyt8855 3 ай бұрын

i love when he changes his story to fit his benefit

@xanderseyestudios 7 ай бұрын

PETA's post is WILD. I'm here for it!

@KingTalion 8 ай бұрын

Its always fascinating when someone interviews people who are generally considered the villains of internet drama. Even if theyre still shitty people its interesting to get a deeper insight into them without having to sift through their content

@klownivore 8 ай бұрын

This exactly I always want more information but I can't stomach the content to grind for that information

@ClickClack_Bam 8 ай бұрын

Richard was seriously pissed at Tom in the later half of this video. It is beyond awkward.

@Anon1gh3 8 ай бұрын

The vegan moral argument that you can't krill humanely is not true at all. Not for humans nor animals and what's crazy is that although the whole moral argument for veganism hinges on this notion, pretty much no one (to my knowledge) has publically made this counter-argument, nor has the Vegan community addressed it. Then there's the vegan health argument that fruits and vegetables are better for you. Being very generous, only 23% of the world's plants are edible and those bought in stores are sterile. So animal products are thus necessary to stave off famine. Then there's the farming chemicals and natural antinutrients to consider. As for the animal product health argument, we've been eating animal products for millions of years and they've always been highly praised for sustenance the world over, long before the industrial revolution. They have a much longer track record of success. That said, I don't support post-IR factory farms, I support local ranches for both health and ethical reasons.

@ofensatul 8 ай бұрын

@KingTalion ur post makes no sense , the only point in watching this it's because ur a fan of VG otherwise why spend the time. The whole argument about sifting through conent was off-topic aswell.

@EmperorPenguin1217 8 ай бұрын

@@Anon1gh3 Everything you said is correct but humans have only been around for a few thousand years

@BH-LGB 8 ай бұрын

Tom is the kind of guy to drive his Audi with both hands

@strawberrypillz2160 8 ай бұрын

@herrdoctor2895 Ай бұрын

Met a vegan once, he sat on my table because not many table left and I let him, never like given me the side eyes or anything but he engage the conversation with "have you ever heard of vegan based food products?" I said "yeah I have" and he basically recommended me a lot of them that can change my eatin ways, but he's cool with it if I wanna stay omnivores. Dude was chill ngl. Never even ask my or his name, its like one of those random events

@paulglynn6285 7 ай бұрын

So good you hear the story twice in full detail everytime i dont really understand why you need commentary of something then play the clip of the person saying the legitimate exact same thing i like the video alot but couldn't handle listening too it twice

@chilibeer3912 8 ай бұрын

This is incredible work Tom and I hope you are willing to do further projects like this. Also it’s incredibly hilarious when you hysterically laugh in his face while he’s trying to deliver this anime villain monologue completely seriously.

@jacksmith-mu3ee 8 ай бұрын

I remember vegan gains when he created anti Islam videos just to generate cheap heat . He triggered muslims using their prophet. Everyone defended him . Afterwards when he was annoying and sadistic tendencies shown to all , same people who defended him against muslims turned on him. They were OK with him hating on muslims but hated him when it was done to others

@yulligoteckg2 8 ай бұрын

@@jacksmith-mu3eeRemember when he had bullied a kid with cancer, for not being vegan.

@HerSoyJak 7 ай бұрын

He covered the hersovyac Hansamuman situation so he has my respect

@NothingIsArt1 7 ай бұрын

Did you know we cut pigs' teeth out without anesthesia, and it is completely legal? Do you consider yourself to be against that?

@HerSoyJak 7 ай бұрын

As long as he covered the Hansamuman hersovyac situation he’s great in my books