Zack Snyder Ruins Everything

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Michael Saba

Michael Saba

7 жыл бұрын

Do you ever wonder how zombies became so played out? Or why blockbusters have to be 'dark and gritty' these days? Or why you can't shake that overwhelming feeling of exhaustion and nihilism when you watch a Zack Snyder movie? Dreaming in Neon has the answers.
This is a story about a bad film director, and the very bad ideas their movies are spreading. (Parts of this essay were greatly inspired by Christian Thorne's piece "The Running of the Dead": sites.williams.edu/cthorne/ar...)
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@MinaF99
@MinaF99 7 жыл бұрын
I think I'm the only person watching this video who clocked the Rihanna in the background
@UltimateLegoFan324
@UltimateLegoFan324 5 жыл бұрын
Mina F What
@rfrec733
@rfrec733 5 жыл бұрын
What about OutKast and Killer Mike?
@T0y8rose
@T0y8rose 5 жыл бұрын
I missed Rihanna, but Eno at the end, nice touch...👌
@djangounchained2754
@djangounchained2754 3 жыл бұрын
Ohhh compelet marvel boy!!! Don't wanna see outside of his chilidish fantsy movies..
@rahuanch
@rahuanch 3 жыл бұрын
I'm did too....
@haku-jin
@haku-jin 4 жыл бұрын
"The 2010s have been a pretty crap decade so far." Oh you sweet summer child.
@RB01.10
@RB01.10 4 жыл бұрын
Let's only hope 2020 isn't a sign for things to come. Starting with 2021, hopefully things will go up from there.
@CoronaMage
@CoronaMage 3 жыл бұрын
@@RB01.10 lol, you're all completely and totally fucked
@leary4701
@leary4701 3 жыл бұрын
CoronaMage well given that millennials don’t run any major nations. It’s gen x and boomers fucking the world
@kupalisky3553
@kupalisky3553 3 жыл бұрын
@@CoronaMage Unless you're an alien or something and don't live on planet Earth, you're fucked too.
@strider117aldo9
@strider117aldo9 3 жыл бұрын
Laughs in every Cold War decade (okay, maybe the 2020s will be bad, but not CW-level bad).
@kirbymarchbarcena
@kirbymarchbarcena 6 жыл бұрын
Why WB and DC agreed to hire a director to direct their movie but has no passion on comics is so puzzling to me.
@omjadhav9128
@omjadhav9128 3 жыл бұрын
Nolan suggested them !!
@SuCKeRPunCH187
@SuCKeRPunCH187 2 жыл бұрын
@@omjadhav9128 i think they wanted somene who was willing to emulate the tone of nolans batman movies.
@mosesoftheblock2311
@mosesoftheblock2311 Жыл бұрын
He has pasdion for Frank Miller comics only.
@wholethedogsout880
@wholethedogsout880 Жыл бұрын
@@omjadhav9128 well nolan is a damn fool
@Knoispowr
@Knoispowr Жыл бұрын
Bro, Zack has so much passion.
@thebatman9648
@thebatman9648 2 жыл бұрын
It’s crazy how one man could destroy the prospects for an entire cinematic universe through one movie
@thenoirknight5729
@thenoirknight5729 2 жыл бұрын
Eobard Thawne!
@Donvks
@Donvks 2 жыл бұрын
BINGO!!!
@mosesoftheblock2311
@mosesoftheblock2311 Жыл бұрын
It was a combined effort of Man of Steel, BVS, and Justice League.
@theunknowncommenter725
@theunknowncommenter725 Жыл бұрын
@@mosesoftheblock2311 it was a combined effort of all you stupid MCU and dcau stans not getting it
@theunknowncommenter725
@theunknowncommenter725 Жыл бұрын
Yeah Warner Brothers.
@stevenriften7561
@stevenriften7561 3 жыл бұрын
Snyder tries too hard to be edgy and it is annoying. Just look at the way he depicts Batman and Superman.
@cloroxbleach6039
@cloroxbleach6039 3 жыл бұрын
Batman killing and Superman not kind I mean wtf? We still haven’t had a live action of Superman’s nice side literally
@hello-gx6oi
@hello-gx6oi 2 жыл бұрын
@@cloroxbleach6039 bruh cristopher reevs Superman existand that's the good side of his Superman returns:hated becys it's a copy of cristopher reevs Man of steel: hated because it was different
@herloss448
@herloss448 2 жыл бұрын
@@hello-gx6oi no mos was hated cuz it was a reallly bad superman movie .telling superman should maybe let ppl die or bsing a douche isnt different .its being edgy by thinking its cool . snyder have never picked up a superman comic and im sure nor snyder fanbois .do u believe if i say snyder did 2 movies with superman without no fucking character development
@hello-gx6oi
@hello-gx6oi 2 жыл бұрын
@@herloss448 you missed the whole point of the movie lol
@Dxntoo
@Dxntoo 2 жыл бұрын
@@hello-gx6oi Don't bother. This dude is an idiot and can't form a proper sentence to save his life. I've talked to him a couple times before.
@fernandofontenla8466
@fernandofontenla8466 5 жыл бұрын
The same happened with robocop! The Padilha remake brings the opposite message from the original! It's made to fit the narrative of "good" military absolutism of USA. The might is right ideology.
@peterp2153
@peterp2153 4 жыл бұрын
I never got that idea from Robocop remake. I think that film’s mistake was existing, regardless of its merits or lack thereof. By that, I mean that the original is such a well known, well regarded, Singular classic that the remake would have an even harder time than most remakes in being compared to it. If there was never an original Robocop, then the newer film might come off better, though it would still be a fairly ordinary film. It does try to tell a different story, or at least have a different overall theme and character arc. Which is to its favor. But when it references stuff from the original, it tends to try and invert them or use them in a different way, which actually draws more attention to them. Like you’re watching and say to yourself, “Ahh, Padilla is clearly trying to reference the original film but invert those references.” I guess the problem of remaking that film is similar to what would happen if someone tried to remake Gone With the Wind or Lord of the Rings or The Matrix. The shadow cast by the originals are just to big.
@corneliahale7871
@corneliahale7871 3 жыл бұрын
Oh gosh Padilha os so controversial here in Brazil. He directed two movies called "Tropa de Elite" that are about the police brutality on the favelas on Rio and organized crime. Even though the movie and even the main actor (Wagner Moura) says that the main character is a "monster", he still thinks he is a hero, just like the people here who thinks "a good criminal is a dead criminal".
@mistermastermind528
@mistermastermind528 3 жыл бұрын
@@corneliahale7871 I never thought he's controversial in his home country. That's a revelation to me.
@poweroffriendship2.0
@poweroffriendship2.0 3 жыл бұрын
@@peterp2153 The problem is that bad reboots like Ghostbusters 2016 or Charlie's Angel 2019 is not only that failed to reach the level as the original, it can also damage the reputation of the franchise as well. This leads to the audience that the aren't going trust the studio about the reboots and remakes anymore as if they are tired of it, and demanded for originality. However, if you want to make a reboot that can be done right, then you should respect the original source material and the hatred towards reboots and remakes would be reduced.
@ksvba9670
@ksvba9670 2 жыл бұрын
@@corneliahale7871 tropa de elite is a good film if you are aware of the socioeconomical problems of south America as well as the cultural problems, if you are unaware of the message its like a fascist movie. Tropa de elite 2 fixed that. Greetings from Argentina btw
@CollinBuckman
@CollinBuckman 5 жыл бұрын
> 1k likes > 1k dislikes Perfectly balanced, as all things should be.
@obamaspaghettitoiletsauce9150
@obamaspaghettitoiletsauce9150 3 жыл бұрын
@ThisIsMyRealName thats two evils tho
@leary4701
@leary4701 3 жыл бұрын
Obama spaghetti toilet sauce literally how did what he said made sense. How about centre-left dems and centre-right republicans.
@jonasfelisilda5777
@jonasfelisilda5777 3 жыл бұрын
2k likes now
@lolilollolilol7773
@lolilollolilol7773 2 ай бұрын
All the Trumpists are Snyder fans.Snyder fans are all conservative morons. They love Snyder because Snyder is a conservative moron who showcases conservative "values": muscles, guns, white aryan superiority, religious fundamentalism, ridiculous patriotism, etc. Snyder sucked right from the onset in "300", which is the most conservative and outright racist, sexist, anti-LGBT piece of propaganda Hollywood has produced in decades, where the enemy (the Persians aka Iranians) are blatantly dehumanized and just cannon fodder, where the fascist Spartans are glorified and quote the fucking Bible (yes, I'm not joking), where the enemies are either effeminized or painted as gay. That's why the conservatives and the alt-right love it so much. That's why the Bush administration loved it so much.
@tubbyconnorapparatus9764
@tubbyconnorapparatus9764 Ай бұрын
Only difference is the 1k likes are actual people, the 1k dislikes are just mindless Snyderbots and Snydertrolls.
@PejmanMan
@PejmanMan 7 жыл бұрын
wasn't deadpool fox?
@donaldsossamon5095
@donaldsossamon5095 6 жыл бұрын
PejmanMan I was with him until he said that.
@parker469a
@parker469a 5 жыл бұрын
It's says ** And 20th Century Fox in the top left corner.
@ChrisMaxfieldActs
@ChrisMaxfieldActs 4 жыл бұрын
@@parker469a Also, Disney promptly bought Fox, so now they profit from all of it.
@djangounchained2754
@djangounchained2754 3 жыл бұрын
He is fucking annoying . I mean he just wanna watch these marvel movies. I also like them but they are kinda childish. Some of them are pretty good
@-randomedits-4612
@-randomedits-4612 3 жыл бұрын
Not anymore
@neophenom
@neophenom Жыл бұрын
Whenever I see videos like this I do wonder how much can we blame the director, and if the writers responsible for some of this too. I mean Dawn of the Dead remake was written by James Gunn, but we don't hear anything about him when discussing the film. Seems like an incomplete assessment, if we are aiming to really unpack this.
@neophenom
@neophenom Жыл бұрын
And politics will always be part of entertainment. Even a movie like Top Gun Maverick is political by avoiding to be so. To think something can be politically natural, is to accept certain politics views as the norm and that is a statement in itself.
@carlospaim3287
@carlospaim3287 11 ай бұрын
This is usually not the screenwriter fault. Most of it is directing and editing
@jamesduffy7549
@jamesduffy7549 5 жыл бұрын
these were my exact thoughts as soon as I saw his interpretation of rorshach, even alan moore has said he doesn't understand the popularity of the character
@gnarrcan108
@gnarrcan108 3 жыл бұрын
He totally missed the whole point of the fucking book lmao. He’s literally only read Frank Miller shit.
@FangsFirst
@FangsFirst 3 жыл бұрын
@@gnarrcan108 And he doesn't even understand Frank Miller, either... He thought _The Dark Knight Returns_ was filled with Batman murdering people.
@FangsFirst
@FangsFirst 3 жыл бұрын
These were my exact thoughts when I saw his _Dawn of the Dead_ . Then when I saw _300_ . Then when (under some duress at this point) I saw _Watchmen_ and then swore off his movies forever.
@jorgecortinhal7654
@jorgecortinhal7654 3 жыл бұрын
Dudes, of course he reads and understands comics and wtv. BUT I do like he don't make his movie characters simillar to the comics. It's his vision, it's different, it's cool and its unique, and not more of the same thing.
@jamesduffy7549
@jamesduffy7549 3 жыл бұрын
@@jorgecortinhal7654 he absolutely doesn't. Im fine with adaptation, but his film can't really be called watchmen. It's theme is the exact opposite.
@RagnarRoxShow
@RagnarRoxShow 7 жыл бұрын
Snyder Snidini Lupus Est. I lost it when Guinan popped up. This is pure gold!
@dignerds
@dignerds 3 жыл бұрын
This vid is trash
@toasega
@toasega 7 жыл бұрын
The thing about Zombies is that they generally represent the fears of the general public at that moment in time. For example, while I did not see the original Dawn of the Dead, it took place in the late 70's. Woodstock had taken place 9 years ago in 1969. The traditional values that had held up American culture were being heavily challenged and rejected. Hard work and quality tools and materials were being replaced with convenience and the "Mall Culture" of the 80's and 90's. So of course, the zombies attack in the malls, stripping you of your humanity until there's nothing left but a shambling, mindless mass of moaning meat staggering from store to store, looking for something (or someone) to "consume". Shaun of the Dead. 2004. The fear is that of complacency, and the consequences that result from said complacency. Shaun's girlfriend is leaving him because he's TOO content with his life and has no ambitions. His best friend is a lazy bastard who lives on his couch, and his roommate despises them both, though he himself is trapped in his own level of complacency, which ultimately leads to him becoming a zombie. Every zombie throughout the film is another person who lived a complacent life; the store clerk, Mary (the zombie), Shaun's own mother, the neighbors, and finally Ed (Shaun's friend). And even after the smoke has cleared, people use the zombies for the same menial tasks that they would have done when they were alive. Shaun and his girlfriend accept a life of mediocrity, and the whole message is that we're ALL zombies, it's just that some of us aren't dead yet.
@jrmop0965
@jrmop0965 6 жыл бұрын
Thor Ragnarok sales compared to Justice League make this video prophetic. Great analysis man!
@glintongordon6811
@glintongordon6811 3 жыл бұрын
Lol 😂🤣😂🤣 that says more about people being shallow than the movie as much as it wasn't the original idea
@cjstryder5441
@cjstryder5441 3 жыл бұрын
The funny thing is WB probably thought Justice League 2017 was going to bury Thor Ragnarok and then that first Ragnarok teaser trailer dropped and WB was like "oh no" this wasn't suppose to happen.
@dabblerdeluxe775
@dabblerdeluxe775 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheBaBaTV true but I do think the character development and world building has gone downhill. Avengers 1 was much better in those terms then endgame which was lazy at best(professor hulk origins for example)
@0x0michael
@0x0michael 2 жыл бұрын
If you didn't watch Thor Ragnarok, yes Professor Hulk backstory would seem lazy to you
@dabblerdeluxe775
@dabblerdeluxe775 2 жыл бұрын
@@0x0michael Thor ragnarok hulk plot works with the original professor hulk origins and not the 2nd one they filmed that became endgame origins
@sugarenthusiast2519
@sugarenthusiast2519 7 жыл бұрын
Hey, Zack Snyder doesn't ruin everything. There are some movies he wasn't allowed to touch.
@rekhamangairkarasi9801
@rekhamangairkarasi9801 7 жыл бұрын
And what are those
@astillia6073
@astillia6073 3 жыл бұрын
@@rekhamangairkarasi9801 Citizen Kane and The Room
@diamond_dude1063
@diamond_dude1063 2 жыл бұрын
@@Thebellreve dceu sucks.
@herloss448
@herloss448 2 жыл бұрын
@@Thebellreve yeah thats why it failed and needs a reboot
@brandonchristopher9657
@brandonchristopher9657 Ай бұрын
This video is aging like fine wine. I've always said Zack Snyder is trash as a filmmaker and especially as a writer and the way he sees character types and developing characters is trash and time is always going to reveal the truth
@Tomgaar
@Tomgaar 6 жыл бұрын
I was JUST finishing the video and thinking "you know, all these observations could also be applied to a certain other director a lot of people seem to like nowadays" and BOOM, there goes the stinger. Fantastic piece Mr. Saba!
@andrewmaingi255
@andrewmaingi255 3 жыл бұрын
Which director was that?
@TheTurbanator123
@TheTurbanator123 3 жыл бұрын
Who is it Micheal bay. They went to film school together i heard lol
@HarryS77
@HarryS77 3 жыл бұрын
Lol same.
@michaelmoore1697
@michaelmoore1697 3 жыл бұрын
@@andrewmaingi255 Christopher Nolan
@toshdeluxedr.680
@toshdeluxedr.680 5 жыл бұрын
That is why James was directed aquaman
@dreamthief286
@dreamthief286 5 жыл бұрын
Perhaps more than Hobbes, Ayn Rand is a big influence in the Snyder worldview, as he declared himself to be a admirer. Yes, the Atlas Shrugged, "I'm better than you so I should be in charge" Ayn Rand.
@SchulzEricT
@SchulzEricT 5 жыл бұрын
Some people on here are just crying because they like Snyder, or some of his work, so they're arguing that the author of the video is just mad that Snyder's politics don't reflect his own. (Some are more measured in their criticism but make a similar point.) I think there *is* something there; Ayn Rand is fucking garbage and I think telling a story based on her edgelord worldview is going to result in a pretty unsatisfying movie. But it's not like he's unfit to direct *any* movie; it's not like he was a bad choice for something like Watchmen. But for "Superman"? My fucking god, I can't imagine a worse director. (I can imagine some equally bad. None worse.)
@imtm
@imtm 4 жыл бұрын
i'm from brazil, so i don't know much about Ayn and her books, but could you please explain the ""I'm better than you so I should be in charge" Ayn Rand"? Out of context the quote don't seem wrong, so i'm imagin the context of you using this.
@dignerds
@dignerds 4 жыл бұрын
I know about Ayn Rand and Snyder only likes aspects of her ..His DC movies is inspired by Joseph Campbell...Snyder has a great passion for Joseph Campbell's philosophy , yet you haters don't want to harp on that ..
@imtm
@imtm 4 жыл бұрын
@@dignerds still don't getting the "I'm better than you so I should be in charge" quote, but he's just a hater, i should not expect nothing at all anyways
@CrissAssasin7
@CrissAssasin7 4 жыл бұрын
@@SchulzEricT I'd say he was a bad choice even for Watchmen. The 300 however...
@juanlambda27
@juanlambda27 6 жыл бұрын
Watchmen was one of the worst movies made in the last 30 years. I was cringing practically the whole time I was watching it.
@prajwaljayaraj5887
@prajwaljayaraj5887 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed, it did not understand the source material at all
@berettaxd7566
@berettaxd7566 3 жыл бұрын
Watchmen was bad. He is completely tone deaf. Like it will go from this brutal rape scene to this romantic scene like wtf???! It was painful to watch. But Sucker Punch was far worse. It was God awful.
@Ebrahim_17
@Ebrahim_17 3 жыл бұрын
Shazam is a great example of a DC movie as its super light hearted and fun. It would have been a disaster if Snyder directed that film!
@avanns
@avanns 3 жыл бұрын
@@Thebellreve Maybe the contrast between Shazams lightheartedness and Black Adam's darkness and brutality make for an interesting comparison. Or maybe Black Adam will make Billy take things more seriously and to become a more grounded person, I don't know - but I really don't want that light tone gone - it worked perfectly in Shazam.
@thomaspanditfan2435
@thomaspanditfan2435 3 жыл бұрын
@@avanns and that was what bvs war supposed to be.
@theunknowncommenter725
@theunknowncommenter725 Жыл бұрын
I already saw Shazam if directed by Zack Snyder. It was called Man of Steel and it was awesome.
@keanuxu5435
@keanuxu5435 9 ай бұрын
I would love to see Shazam directed by Zechy Snider just for the shitshow that is his 14-year-old, “It’s-not-a-phase,-mom,” Libertarian/Conservative brain.
@xuxuang8574
@xuxuang8574 6 күн бұрын
​@@theunknowncommenter725 you mean it was hot trash.
@Oldschool1943
@Oldschool1943 Жыл бұрын
that was fox not Disney regarding Deadpool 1 & 2 15:28
@vincentprado
@vincentprado 3 жыл бұрын
Snyder is not a director, is a slowmo machine.
@user-re3nr9fd6f
@user-re3nr9fd6f 3 жыл бұрын
@General Skywalker In my opinion yes
@inigobantok1579
@inigobantok1579 3 жыл бұрын
@MistaJ2002 Jon Favreau, James Gunn and Anthony and Joe Russo: Hold our beer
@oldarthurmorgan6319
@oldarthurmorgan6319 3 жыл бұрын
@MistaJ2002 zack Snyder made JL good but it still isn't a legendary film or amazing film by any means it still doesn't rival mcu at all I like that it's trying to be darker I love that and they should be making more rated r films but saying zack Snyder is the better director than any mcu ones is stupid as hell my guy
@death2able
@death2able 3 жыл бұрын
@@oldarthurmorgan6319 Yet the one that destroyed Justice league is Whedon. One of the MCU director. No MCU movies can be considered as Masterpiece unlike a lots of DC film. Too much comedy and no memorable villain proves that its a badly written.
@oldarthurmorgan6319
@oldarthurmorgan6319 3 жыл бұрын
@@death2able agreed but joss only directed the first avengers (which is good) but had help of the Russo brothers which are legends in the mcu and age of ultra by himself and that movie sucked ass so no it's joss just being garbage the proble not mcu because infinity war and endgame which are directed only by the thesis brothers are really good films so in the end it's joss wherein that sucks ass AND he made one bad mcu film
@jasonb6860
@jasonb6860 7 жыл бұрын
This video essay needed more citations from snyder's works beyond dawn of the dead and 2 seconds of Watchmen. It also should have noted how much Snyder has been influenced by Ayn Rand, rather than focusing solely on Hobbes; Snyder's repeatedly tried to make a film of Ayn Rand's The Fountainhead to no avail. How did anyone think it would be a good idea to give Snyder, the ultimate cynic, the job of portraying Superman, the ultimate embodiment of Locke's humanist ideals?
@MichaelSaba
@MichaelSaba 7 жыл бұрын
You raise a really good point. I had thought about including something on Ayn Rand when I was writing the script for this, but I balked at making the video any longer because at the time I was still pretty new to editing. The objectivist / 'rational self-interest' lens does go a long way in explaining why Snyder's films are so philosophically muddled (or just plain confused, as with Watchmen). I think this is worth bringing up in the video essay on Joss Whedon I'm planning to release in the run-up to the Justice League -- thank you for the thoughtful comment.
@jasonb6860
@jasonb6860 7 жыл бұрын
You're welcome! Tbh imo Rand is largely the 1940s iteration of Hobbes (like Hobbes sans religion), so focusing on the Hobbes wasn't a mistake or anything like that. I'm not sure if my initial comment conveyed how much I agree with and enjoy your video; it's really well made and convincing. Mostly I just would have liked a few more citations that show Snyder's cynicism, but maybe that's an indulgent ask of a video that's already 16m long.
@runningcommentary2125
@runningcommentary2125 3 жыл бұрын
@@jasonb6860 Pretty sure Hobbes would have hated Rand and seen her ideal society as just another form of the State of Nature.
@LPempty
@LPempty 2 жыл бұрын
That’s so embarrassing maybe it’s a good thing this was left out 😭
@Cameron_TPTNS
@Cameron_TPTNS 7 жыл бұрын
Disney didn't make any money on Deadpool considering its a fox product.
@parker469a
@parker469a 5 жыл бұрын
It's says ** And 20th Century Fox in the top left corner.
@HNDDRXX
@HNDDRXX 2 жыл бұрын
Nothing about BVS is "surface" lol
@NeoReoxis
@NeoReoxis 2 жыл бұрын
It’s surface pretending to be deep ☠️☠️☠️
@MrBruh-yb9qi
@MrBruh-yb9qi 2 жыл бұрын
@@NeoReoxis and accomplishing it, just like me to your mother
@adityanarain9428
@adityanarain9428 3 ай бұрын
​@@NeoReoxisIt has interesting concepts but the execution was horrendous.
@xuxuang8574
@xuxuang8574 6 күн бұрын
Its all surface, and what is beneath that is idiocy.
@SuperWolfkin
@SuperWolfkin 5 жыл бұрын
Lovely use of Outkast by the way. It made me chuckle.
@MacysShopLifter
@MacysShopLifter 5 жыл бұрын
Angsty edgelords coming an disliking this video without even watching it
@redranger337
@redranger337 4 жыл бұрын
I watched it, I still disagree, I disliked.
@koichidignitythief7429
@koichidignitythief7429 4 жыл бұрын
I watched it but I didn't need to watch it to understand it's just another person blaming Zack Snyder for literally everything under the sun.
@conorobrien4046
@conorobrien4046 4 жыл бұрын
While I agree zack Snyder is a hack, I don’t think his works are bigoted whatsoever. That’s why it gets the dislike
@RadinV1
@RadinV1 4 жыл бұрын
@@redranger337 fuck you then
@iseeundeadpeople9
@iseeundeadpeople9 3 жыл бұрын
@@conorobrien4046 Then you're completetely blind. Or never watched a single one of his movies. Or you're lying.
@ajagustin7593
@ajagustin7593 7 жыл бұрын
Disney never made Deadpool that was fox
@laykni
@laykni 6 жыл бұрын
AJ Agustin One year later and Disney is about to buy Fox. how random is that?
@WorthlessWinner
@WorthlessWinner 5 жыл бұрын
kinda sad how many factual errors this guy makes in his video =/
@parker469a
@parker469a 5 жыл бұрын
It's says ** And 20th Century Fox in the top left corner.
@parker469a
@parker469a 5 жыл бұрын
@ThisIsMyRealName I watched Sarkeesian's three women in video games tropes video's. They didn't seem that bad. Some of it I agreed with. Some of it I don't think she explored quite enough. Some of it I felt like most people wouldn't be able to comprehend the subtlety of what she was talking about. Nothing she said warrantied the reaction she got out of it though. These people would lose their minds at this one. :) Pop Culture Detective Abduction As Romance kzfaq.info/get/bejne/qp6of5qolrazimQ.html I don't particularly like what he said about V for Vendetta but I understand that under ANY other circumstance he would be 100% right. Movies are fantasy 1 in million chance that would never happen in the real world while he's actually talking about how these things would actually play out in the real world without weird excuses for how the male character is forced into acting like an abusive love interest. The Last Jedi video he did would probably push into actual violent rages. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/o72hia2Lss6aXas.html
@caylya7869
@caylya7869 5 жыл бұрын
H Hatch yeah but Disney won’t even touch that very violent character
@chrisanderson2204
@chrisanderson2204 3 жыл бұрын
DC literally has the best animated series and animated movies writers.Paul Dini,Greg Weisman, Dwayne McDuffie (RIP),Bruce Timm,Alan Burnett.Why don't they make them write the DCEU movies???
@zhengyingli
@zhengyingli 3 жыл бұрын
Because Chris Terrio is a better writer.
@asmrbully6980
@asmrbully6980 3 жыл бұрын
you know what happened if they did, like geoff johns
@herloss448
@herloss448 2 жыл бұрын
@@zhengyingli 🤮
@zhengyingli
@zhengyingli 2 жыл бұрын
@@herloss448 I don't know about that. Argo, BvS and the Snyder Cut are pretty awesome.
@thenoirknight5729
@thenoirknight5729 2 жыл бұрын
@@zhengyingli Not better, but so far just about as good with DC stuff. All excellent
@herriothilaire1
@herriothilaire1 4 жыл бұрын
#ReleaseTheSnydercut !
@carlisle6831
@carlisle6831 3 жыл бұрын
We won 😂 losers like him are seething lmao
@gnarrcan108
@gnarrcan108 3 жыл бұрын
@@carlisle6831 seething at what lmao. His movies suck and people have been saying it for years. Snyder cut is gonna be on HBO max and it’s gonna suck most likely bc Snyder doesn’t understand the source material you enjoy watching it but real DC fans are gonna be like “wow this 3 hour JL movie where Superman has no soul and Batman is a serial killer is fucking ass” Snyder is ass at storytelling.
@HelloThere-yy6lu
@HelloThere-yy6lu 3 жыл бұрын
@Gnarrcan You haters never learn. First it was: "it doesn't exist" Than it was: "it exists, but it'll never come out" And finally: "tHe MoViE iS gOnNa SuCk" You haters just can't except the fact that the fans are getting what they want, get over it.
@carlisle6831
@carlisle6831 3 жыл бұрын
@@gnarrcan108 the film will be 4 hours long 🤦🏻‍♂️ atleast know what you’re speaking about before you come off as a fucking idiot
@omjadhav9128
@omjadhav9128 3 жыл бұрын
@@gnarrcan108 go and watch marvel film !! Don't interfere in dc
@williammonti6239
@williammonti6239 5 жыл бұрын
What was the song playing over the Hobbes images?
@FANDOMlong-live-US
@FANDOMlong-live-US 7 жыл бұрын
what classic song did you use
@---gj3qn
@---gj3qn 3 жыл бұрын
Don't let Snyder get his hands on Injustice. He'd probably try to convince us that Superman is the good guy in that situation
@zhengyingli
@zhengyingli 3 жыл бұрын
What makes you think that?
@---gj3qn
@---gj3qn 3 жыл бұрын
@@zhengyingli He clearly loves authoritarianism
@zhengyingli
@zhengyingli 3 жыл бұрын
@@---gj3qn What do you mean? MoS and BvS are blatantly anti-authoritarianism.
@---gj3qn
@---gj3qn 3 жыл бұрын
@@zhengyingli Did you watch the whole video? He doesn't handle the topic all that well.
@---gj3qn
@---gj3qn 3 жыл бұрын
@@zhengyingli The movies are based on the comics. But like any adaptation there will be changes and his changes have some very bad implications sometimes. The original source material might be anti-authoritarian, his changes not so much.
@lissy_love64
@lissy_love64 Жыл бұрын
Me having to come to terms with the fact that Zack Snyder Directed the Ga'Hoole movie, which is based on my favorite childhood book series 🙃
@kennethmcgowan333
@kennethmcgowan333 2 жыл бұрын
Chillin in 2022 loving the background Outkast music lol
@dr.spectre9697
@dr.spectre9697 5 жыл бұрын
I only watch independent films, classic films at the realto, marvel films, Pixar films or foreign films. I simply pirate the rest. I dont understand how pirating will "help" movie studios, I understand it the curiosity creates demand but if they dont get paid for it, how do they win in the long run?
@floriandick4992
@floriandick4992 5 жыл бұрын
Didn't turn out so well to make Justice League "lighter"... 😄
@curly_wyn
@curly_wyn 2 жыл бұрын
You think it’s bad because it had color? Lmao
@floriandick4992
@floriandick4992 2 жыл бұрын
@@curly_wyn Not just lighter in color, but also lighter in tone. ;) :D
@xuxuang8574
@xuxuang8574 6 күн бұрын
Justice League was garbage but it's still the best version that we've had. At least there was some degree of plot coherence. In the Snyder cut darkside just completely forgot about where he put the anti-life equation. Like what the hell That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard in my life.
@petertromp8786
@petertromp8786 6 жыл бұрын
Leni Riefenstahl - Snyder's biggest influence.
@sarubet8725
@sarubet8725 Жыл бұрын
I don't think that truck scene is a reference to 9/11
@samlatifi3254
@samlatifi3254 5 жыл бұрын
Adam Curtis tribute at the end 😉
@rfrec733
@rfrec733 5 жыл бұрын
"And the whole world wants you just to move along" I was very happy about hearing that track in here!
@nazreplicas7930
@nazreplicas7930 3 жыл бұрын
U shpw a random accident scene and say its 9/11 , u serious?
@deepakjam2521
@deepakjam2521 3 жыл бұрын
Calls Snyder cheap And doing the same
@chocolatechad5132
@chocolatechad5132 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, he's serious. This guy is a clown.
@JunguianPhantom
@JunguianPhantom 3 жыл бұрын
I loved the mgs wink at the end
@ZanderEzekial77
@ZanderEzekial77 7 жыл бұрын
Nah It's funny that you come to the same conclusions about politics in media that Errant Signal (who you referenced in the video) so eloquently rejects in his videos. Even though I generally don't agree with Snyders more obtuse points, I respect his vision and I like the way he portrays the stories he tells. I feel like you have to be an educated viewer of content and acknowledge politics while not also mindlessly accepting them. Just saying outright "don't go to see these films" is harmful, especially when you realistically know that any movie with Batman or Superman is going to do well at the box office regardless of protest.
@Spiderstan2000
@Spiderstan2000 2 жыл бұрын
Wow this vid didn't age well.
@curly_wyn
@curly_wyn 2 жыл бұрын
The Snyder Cut wasn’t that good at all, chill out
@guyr3618
@guyr3618 6 жыл бұрын
A bit hyperbolic, but I still agreed with all your major points. Good video.
@doctorstrange-love2166
@doctorstrange-love2166 Жыл бұрын
Has anyone every watched a Snyder film and thought "Wow, this is a metaphro for ______ *anything*"?
@inferno0020
@inferno0020 4 жыл бұрын
Snyder was inspired by Heavy Metal comics that care about ultra violence, nudity, and power abuse. I dont think he even cares about any deep message. He might love rain, sex, Jesus allegory, or apocalpyse dream sequences, but that is just his tropes that he know how to play with. When we realize that he identified with General Zod more than Superman in Man of Steel, we know something was not right with this movie.
@MistaJ28
@MistaJ28 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah sure. A director talking about his personal life and the things he liked which includes sex and violence inspired him?? Wow tells so much about your personality here. You must have a lot of friends. And if he only cared about those, i wonder why he removed the part where Laurie and Dan had sex in Antarctica after everything happened and replaced it with giving a full message about how Dan and Laurie fixed their lives and tried to live happily.
@inferno0020
@inferno0020 2 жыл бұрын
@@MistaJ28 lol if you want mature works, go watch other films or pick up a novel or non-fiction. Debating about Watchman is lame. btw Z-Synzzle's best film remains 300 because this film doesn't pretend what it isn't.
@MistaJ28
@MistaJ28 2 жыл бұрын
@@inferno0020 My man im not here to debate about movies which is far from my point. Im here to talk about how laughable your logics are in every single prespective. Debating about Watchmen might be lame which is why i didnt try to debate about that which is also not the point, but nitpicking others personal taste and taking it to your advantage to sh*t on him is the lamest among all. People like you are the same reason why no one cant talk about what they like or dislike these days. Because all you does is crying and whining about them only because you dont agree with it. I thought you would've understood how much lame that is after a 1 year but nope. Still the same Dbag. Plus, i dont give a damn on what you think about ZS's movies. Just saying.
@curly_wyn
@curly_wyn 2 жыл бұрын
He’s a fucking hack dude
@thefreerepublicofadmiralpr2935
@thefreerepublicofadmiralpr2935 2 жыл бұрын
I disagree, but you’re entitled to your opinion, as we Snyder fans are entitled to ours. It’s freedom of speech. For me, Zack Snyder is my inspiration and why I want to be a director. I agree with some of the criticisms in this video. I do think he takes the politics a little hard sometimes. But with that said, I think you and a lot of people in this comment section could benefit on seeing positive analyses on Batman v Superman and Zack Snyder’s Justice League. I’d link some, but KZfaq is anti-linking. They’ll just delete it. I’m not looking to start a fight. I just want to share my perspective on the whole matter. I think he is a master visual storyteller, but the Snyder Cut is proof that he is awesome at world building and character development when he’s not being held back by studios. I think the big studios are the real villains here, cutting the wrong stuff out of his work, so it looks like that he is a bad director when he really isn’t. I think, if some of his other less well-received films were to receive the director’s cut treatment, you all would see that his films are much deeper than you think. Again, you all are free to have your own opinions. I just disagree because I know that his films aren’t terrible. There are plenty of videos as to why. I probably won’t continue the discussion in reply threads, so thank you all for listening.
@nandu1770
@nandu1770 2 жыл бұрын
There was no character development in zsjl.
@thenoirknight5729
@thenoirknight5729 2 жыл бұрын
@@nandu1770 That's not truth or justice, that's a lie
@ADrunkSuperman3
@ADrunkSuperman3 6 жыл бұрын
Zack Snyder is like Micheal Bay. If Micheal Bay was pretentious.
@vanblitz7009
@vanblitz7009 3 жыл бұрын
nahh
@curly_wyn
@curly_wyn 2 жыл бұрын
Michael Bay Lite
@somandlanigel416
@somandlanigel416 Жыл бұрын
Micheal bay IS pretentious
@marcossandrosilva6979
@marcossandrosilva6979 5 ай бұрын
@@somandlanigel416 Elaborate
@nazreplicas7930
@nazreplicas7930 3 жыл бұрын
So back in 2016 BvS released and yall got the chance to talk shit about him and shit on his work, wow what a surprise.
@mikau69
@mikau69 20 күн бұрын
12:14 in the movie Ozymandias does mention he made himself watch all the people he killed, as punishment. Meaning he had to live with that.-
@jackmartin5393
@jackmartin5393 7 жыл бұрын
I'ts kinda obvious that Snyder puts political undertones into his films. "On this Earth, every act is a political act" is a direct quote from BvS.
@jonathangonzalez9673
@jonathangonzalez9673 7 жыл бұрын
Jack Martin yeah but he is bad at writting it, is as cheesy as independence day when the president goes all "ill fly a jet and fight the aliens.my self.woooo"
@politereminder6284
@politereminder6284 5 жыл бұрын
I think he puts more anti-religion undertones in his movies. In the DCEU, all his stories are about god-killing
@bus7343
@bus7343 2 жыл бұрын
JGC 9-0 in today’s day and age is that wrong? If Superman were real doing things, would it not stir up anything politically?
@TheReverantChoir
@TheReverantChoir 2 жыл бұрын
"Do you ever wonder how zombies became so played out? Or why blockbusters have to be 'dark and gritty' these days? Or why you can't shake that overwhelming feeling of exhaustion and nihilism when you watch a Zack Snyder movie?" No, not really
@1001johny
@1001johny 7 жыл бұрын
He did 300. That wasn't a remake or sequel, right?
@dragoneye2874
@dragoneye2874 7 жыл бұрын
1001johny it was an adaptation
@1001johny
@1001johny 7 жыл бұрын
Ahh right, okay then. Thank you for that.
@--Dipanshu--
@--Dipanshu-- 3 жыл бұрын
And sucker punch ?
@TheNerdMan2
@TheNerdMan2 5 жыл бұрын
So your thesis, all comic movies should be light hearted thoughtless pop corn movies. This has to be one of the dumbest conclusions to an otherwise interesting video. I like variety in superhero movies. I don´t want all of them the same. Some of the best to date have been serious or had dark themes, Oldboy, Sin City, Kick Ass, Batman Begins, Chronicle, Unbreakable, Superman 2 and Wonder Woman. Anyway good vid, but cos of that concliusion I can´t thumbs up or subscribe.
@tompor561
@tompor561 5 жыл бұрын
You forgot Logan and the Xmen film series in general. Freaking love them dx
@curly_wyn
@curly_wyn 2 жыл бұрын
You didn’t pay attention to anything he said, did you?
@vishnualcyone9170
@vishnualcyone9170 2 жыл бұрын
He didn't direct 300 sequel.
@jerardlopez1038
@jerardlopez1038 Жыл бұрын
well, i loved most of his movies. BVS is the best of all ! If you want comedy, go watch a marvel movie!
@WL1264
@WL1264 11 ай бұрын
Bvs has comedy too. Problem is it's unintentional.
@faisalmansuri555
@faisalmansuri555 3 жыл бұрын
fox made money with deadpool Disney didn't have guts to make a r -rated movie
@umbrellaunderdog
@umbrellaunderdog 3 жыл бұрын
And Disney bought out fox so we're fucked..
@thomaspanditfan2435
@thomaspanditfan2435 3 жыл бұрын
@@umbrellaunderdog actually it has been confirmed Deadpool will be r rated. So not to worry.
@Mazgid
@Mazgid 3 жыл бұрын
Well This video has aged bad
@curly_wyn
@curly_wyn 2 жыл бұрын
The Snyder Cut wasn’t that good, chill
@thenoirknight5729
@thenoirknight5729 2 жыл бұрын
@@curly_wyn This feels like spam
@xuxuang8574
@xuxuang8574 6 күн бұрын
What are you talking about? It's as relevant then as it is today.
@waltermelon2841
@waltermelon2841 7 жыл бұрын
Fox made Deadpool not Disney.
@parker469a
@parker469a 5 жыл бұрын
It's says ** And 20th Century Fox in the top left corner.
@c.i.a.932
@c.i.a.932 2 жыл бұрын
Holy shit, this aged so poorly lmao
@Charzy1230
@Charzy1230 2 жыл бұрын
1 decent movie and it was farrr too long. Way more excited to see what Matt Reeves does.
@curly_wyn
@curly_wyn 2 жыл бұрын
ZACK SNYDER’S JUSTICE LEAGUE WASN’T THAT GOOD AT ALL.
@MrBruh-yb9qi
@MrBruh-yb9qi 2 жыл бұрын
@@curly_wyn oscarsn't?
@thenoirknight5729
@thenoirknight5729 2 жыл бұрын
@@Charzy1230 What 1 decent movie? I'd say that's the Theatrical Cut of Dawn of Justice for me. Thoughts and opinions on Matt Reeves The Batman? Personally, I believe the movie is awesome and I love the character arc for The Batman. What about you?
@thenoirknight5729
@thenoirknight5729 2 жыл бұрын
@Aroko 76 Why ZSJL?
@snakemont
@snakemont 3 жыл бұрын
1:29 and if we dont all chip .....we'lll never paaaaaay thaaaat biiiiill
@ReggieMCH
@ReggieMCH 6 жыл бұрын
Disney Didn't make Deadpool. Fox did.. And I do want some Serious Comic Book Movies 🎥 they all Can't be Funny PG13 like Marvel. I also Like Marvel. But it also good to have Different variety of Comic Movies 🎥
@mattg6106
@mattg6106 3 жыл бұрын
Sucker Punch had the potential to be a ridiculous over-the-top campy joy ride but just kind of turned out as an awkward, relatively boring and forgettable experience. It had schoolgirl samurai, war mechs, and a fucking dragon yet I can barely remember any of it.
@psicopato2460
@psicopato2460 2 жыл бұрын
Everytime someone mentioned the movie in those list videos and showed scenes of the movie it made me want to watch it, but every review I saw me want to stay away, lol
@LarryHazard
@LarryHazard 2 жыл бұрын
Cause Snyder just can't make movies. The premise was cool especially if you're a male and you like action movie stuff but he couldn't help fucking that up. The guy had Emily Browning dressed up as a japanese schoolgirl with a katana fighting robots and couldn't make a movie that was at least fun to watch
@edhero4515
@edhero4515 2 жыл бұрын
Sry folks, SP is very good and very important. It deals with very uncomfortable issues but uses imagery, that we are used to enjoy. This movie is not enjoyable or entertaining in a "traditional" way. A good starting point to decipher it is the work of the romanian psychiatrist Jacob Levy Moreno, the inventor of Psychodrama. Just a few keypoints: violence in psychiatry, oppressive elements in christian culture, systemic exploitation of the female body, sale of human rights, war as defining element of human culture throughout history. If you look at the movieposter or the dvd cover, you would not expect this kind of content. But this is the starting point of the subversive nature of this movie. In my opinion, the only problem of this movie is, that it is ahead of its time, maybe until today. That said, i do not disagree with Michaels points in the video. I am not a huge fan of Snyders work, especially the recent one, but Sucker Punch deserves a video with a huge red "THEY WERE WRONG" on the thumbnail. ; )
@LarryHazard
@LarryHazard 2 жыл бұрын
@@edhero4515 I read hald your comment thinking you were making fun of the movie then realized you were serious
@curly_wyn
@curly_wyn 2 жыл бұрын
Anyone who loves that movie, I just don’t think we can be friends.
@DeadlyDanDaMan
@DeadlyDanDaMan 2 жыл бұрын
Most of Snyder's films that he DIDN'T WRITE were his best ones, which include Dawn of the Dead, 300, and Watchmen. One's that he DID help write were all complete flops. That should tell you all you need to know about Zach Snyder.
@IDreamElectricSheep
@IDreamElectricSheep 2 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣🤣 You're right, 300 doesn't AT ALL fall under the umbrella of his uber-fascistic totalitarian "euro-merica first and greatest" political propaganda, not at all, it doesn't falsify history by purposely claiming that iranians were racist fascists, i mean it WASN'T iranians who wrote the first declaration of human rights that includes the ban of slavery, payment for working class, women and even war captives, and everyone's right to speak their mother tongue and practice their own religion, in all of the 23 satraps under their government spanning three continents; right? 🤡
@MistaJ28
@MistaJ28 2 жыл бұрын
I wonder why Zack Snyder was credited as the "Co-Writer" of 300.
@LarryHazard
@LarryHazard 2 жыл бұрын
Watchmen is his best film and I can barely give it 5/10. It works just because the original story is great and it almost copies it shot for shot, the problem is it betrays its spirit and tone over and over in fact 5/10 might be too generous. The guy has never made good movies. If you think 300 is a good movie then I guess you're the type to think The Dark Knight is the best movie ever
@curly_wyn
@curly_wyn 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah dude, he’s a hack.
@curly_wyn
@curly_wyn 2 жыл бұрын
@@MistaJ28 It was written in a graphic novel by Frank Miller, and Snyder only wanted to take credit in writing the movie-only elements of 300. It’s a movie that’s a product of its time and has aged terribly.
@a.f9234
@a.f9234 5 жыл бұрын
The only Snyder movies I liked are Legends of guardians and Man of Steel
@piratemeow
@piratemeow 3 жыл бұрын
Please do an update.
@Martin_TheCollector
@Martin_TheCollector 3 жыл бұрын
In my opinion, he hasn't directed anything good since Watchmen. Despite all its flaws. No film will ever top the original source material though. Except maybe V For Vendetta. Many folks seem to enjoy Zack's work but it's just not my thing. Really not.
@vanblitz7009
@vanblitz7009 3 жыл бұрын
Man of Steel was greatly misunderstood in my opinion. BvS was also very good imo.
@Martin_TheCollector
@Martin_TheCollector 3 жыл бұрын
@@vanblitz7009 Those were massive letdowns and bored the hell outta me. Plenty of better comic-book movies plus shows. If you enjoy his work, that's perfectly fine.
@Apathesis0
@Apathesis0 2 жыл бұрын
Watchmen was fucking terrible
@magicmonkey978
@magicmonkey978 2 жыл бұрын
@@Apathesis0 I agree
@emc7405
@emc7405 3 жыл бұрын
Snyder - NOT a fan! Don’t like his movies
@snakemont
@snakemont 3 жыл бұрын
7:48 I am the law! and there is only one judge dredd^^
@attackofthecopyrightbots
@attackofthecopyrightbots 5 жыл бұрын
the watchmen reboot is gonna suck
@sleuthentertainment5872
@sleuthentertainment5872 3 жыл бұрын
Tonight I watched the great THE 7 SAMURAI, by master Akira Kurosawa. Snyder, before choose to be a director he (and these jerks who claim to be their fans) should have watched that classic and learn a little bit what is REAL CINEMA, something he doesn't do
@psicopato2460
@psicopato2460 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, people praise Snyder's pointless good visuals like if they made up for the rest of the problems, but 7 Samurai looks amazing and every scene matters, and that's without talking about the acting and story itself
@thenoirknight5729
@thenoirknight5729 2 жыл бұрын
I believe I remember that film being on Zack Snyder's watchlist or whatever on HBO Max back in 2021? Could have been another movie though
@carb_8781
@carb_8781 2 жыл бұрын
i strongly agree. his movies are so annoying. he sucks the joy out of everything.
@rilist_7603
@rilist_7603 2 жыл бұрын
That’s his style, if u don’t like his style that’s fine, me personally I love his gritty and bleak style. It’s different and unique and made for me
@pyrefly7575
@pyrefly7575 2 жыл бұрын
@@rilist_7603 hahaha damn man some people really don't like cinema
@thenoirknight5729
@thenoirknight5729 2 жыл бұрын
I disagree Bout him sucking the joy out of everything. I've watched Man of Steel plenty of times. I always get some joy out of it seeing as it is a Clark Kent movie (the real identity). Plus the scenes of him interacting with his mom and just how he interacts with people in general is nice
@rahul-qm9fi
@rahul-qm9fi 6 жыл бұрын
The amount of dislikes please me
@SuperSeenith
@SuperSeenith 4 жыл бұрын
I'm not sure if the shade thrown at Nolan at the end was necessary. Nolan is nowhere near as guilty as Snyder is for the crimes mentioned. It was a nice MGS parody though.
@jancz357
@jancz357 7 жыл бұрын
I never noticed anything like that in the dawn of the dead or the watchmen, maybe because I haven't seen the original and I don't know the source material, and maybe I am just stupid, but I didn't expect to look for political agenda in a zombie movie or deep moral question in a comic book movie :D
@victorsales4215
@victorsales4215 7 жыл бұрын
Well, Watchmen is from Alan Moore, so you can expect a lot of literature references, political discussion and subtle (and some not so subtle) criticism of society (that, even though it was released in 1986, it is still relevant). That's why I think Snyder fails: he fails to capture the essence of the narrative, but who can blame him? It's a 3-hour-long movie to one of the most intricate comics of all time.
@futurestoryteller
@futurestoryteller 7 жыл бұрын
The social commentary in George Romero's zombie films was apparent to nearly everyone, even before he (consciously) intended it. An artist who is _only_ looking to entertain, has failed as an artist.
@TheGeorgeD13
@TheGeorgeD13 7 жыл бұрын
future storyteller: I don't think you have the place to say or define what art is. It's different for different people. For some, it's merely entertainment. For others, it's something else or something more. The definition of art is fluid and subjective to both time periods and to the individual themselves.
@futurestoryteller
@futurestoryteller 7 жыл бұрын
George Daugherty I do, and can, sorry, I have.
@TheGeorgeD13
@TheGeorgeD13 7 жыл бұрын
futurestoryteller From an individual perspective, you do. I misspoke there. From an institution or era perspective, you do not, sorry.
@TheEbbemonster
@TheEbbemonster 5 жыл бұрын
I agree that his movies are bleak and with no personality, but I did, however, enjoy Dawn of the Dead quite a bit.
@ChrisMaxfieldActs
@ChrisMaxfieldActs 4 жыл бұрын
James Gunn's script helps.
@nazreplicas7930
@nazreplicas7930 3 жыл бұрын
@@ChrisMaxfieldActs and zack's Cinematography helps alot too.
@valenluca3253
@valenluca3253 3 жыл бұрын
Ehh, no
@nazreplicas7930
@nazreplicas7930 3 жыл бұрын
@@valenluca3253 ehh, yes , haters been crying since the snydercut is coming out
@ordeporama
@ordeporama 6 жыл бұрын
*hears Brian Eno* *subscribes*
@jeffrhodes8465
@jeffrhodes8465 6 жыл бұрын
I think that I your point and I do think that Snyder's style was antithetical to what Superman and Batman and I feel like I'd we had gotten to see Snyder's JL or would have confirmed it. Incidentally, Joel Schumacher was the original worst enemy of DC
@curly_wyn
@curly_wyn 2 жыл бұрын
All Joel Schumacher did was make Batman more comic campy and fun with queer touches. Sounds homophobic to me. Don’t want to assume you are, but that’s the impression you’re giving off.
@junemugazabala
@junemugazabala 2 жыл бұрын
ZSJL was a success jo!
@thenoirknight5729
@thenoirknight5729 2 жыл бұрын
@Aroko 76 It was and is still good though. That's a positive.
@isn0t42
@isn0t42 3 жыл бұрын
But how would I know that a movie stinks before seeing it for myself?
@thecommie8891
@thecommie8891 3 жыл бұрын
Agree everyone said birds of prey was the greatest movie before it released from early test screenings & look how that turned out a meh movie
@harrybechtle4333
@harrybechtle4333 2 жыл бұрын
Zack Snyder made the guardian’s of gahoole movie?
@thenoirknight5729
@thenoirknight5729 2 жыл бұрын
Dawn of the Dead (2004), 300 (2006), Watchmen (2009), Legend of the Guardians: The Owls of Ga'Hoole (2010), Sucker Punch (2011), Man of Steel (2013), Dawn of Justice (2016), Zack Snyder's Justice League (2021), Army of the Dead (2021), and I believe Army of Thieves (2021) Edit: Not Army of Thieves
@sprouteruprooted
@sprouteruprooted 5 жыл бұрын
It's sad that you don't understand the sheer Symbolism Snyder shows in his movies, you're one of those people who wanna watch a popcorn flick and enjoy marvel movies
@Toonyy55
@Toonyy55 7 жыл бұрын
Just subscribed. I'll be waiting for the next video eagerly!
@TigerNightmare
@TigerNightmare 3 жыл бұрын
I have yet to have a positive experience with a Snyder fan. Not one person was like, "Yeah, I get how you wouldn't like anything about Batman v Superman, it's not for everyone, but I really appreciate Ben Affleck's performance, etc." Nearly all of them weaponize the tragic death of his daughter, evoke a vague air of persecution by referencing a receipt-free, "they mocked his daughter's suicide, therefore they aren't allowed an opinion," towards anyone who even mentions Superman. One person even got upset when I called out his oft referencing of their suicide prevention charity as a shield for criticism for all these toxic assholes that harass others. "That's not all of us, we saved lives!" Y'all want a better reputation, stop using the supposed good deeds of a few to defend the douchebaggery of the many. Call them out, end the dismissal of different opinions to the point of harassment, stop trying to invent a rivalry where you have to say insane things like, "Man of Steel destroyed Iron Man!", stop chiming into every discussion just to be contrary, stop yourself before you say something and ask, "Will this make other Snyder fans look good?" Please try to not be a dick.
@death2able
@death2able 3 жыл бұрын
I always love snyder movies. Hoping for justice part 2. He's a great director.
@KelX91
@KelX91 3 жыл бұрын
@@death2able You should watch world finest batman...it makes ZS batman a lazy billionaire..batman can do so much better
@PosthumanHeresy
@PosthumanHeresy 3 жыл бұрын
I dislike most of his work but enjoyed the Dawn of the Dead remake because if you swap out "western civilization" with "the human race, or at least all but the richest humans, and also like all biodiversity on Earth" you have a much more factual statement than the crap he believes. The disaster happens. The world goes to hell, and humanity uses it as an excuse to unleash their inner demons. And the people who survive are the ones suited for such a world, those who are happier in it. It's an expression of a desire to get it over with and just enjoy what you can while it lasts, because it's hopeless to actually plan your life around success here and expect to enjoy a single moment and not die filled with despair over your regrets. For a lot of people, their lives feel like a prison. When their normal life is destroyed and there's no hope for it anymore, paradoxically that is hope. By letting go of the hope you have for saving yourself or the world, you have access to the hope of enjoying the world you live in. Yeah, definitely nihilistic and cynical. But, if we already were thinking about socioeconomic and climate science politics as a person when we watched it first instead of focusing on the creator's awful subtle racism, there's a massively relatable story in there of a desire I think a lot of us feel pretty often these days. Sometimes it seems like it would just be better if we stopped this will-we-or-won't-we with the dystopian hell, because we're so tired of fighting this culture war that's sometimes just a straight up war. If it didn't matter anymore, the constant weight we feel on us would be lifted. For all the awfulness that requires, nobody is wrong for feeling the power of that idea. You go bad when you stop keeping the awfulness in mind. Otherwise, it can be a comforting fantasy for people to imagine a life where, regardless of how they have to struggle to survive, the current struggle is _finally_ over. The next one might suck even more, but at least it's something else. I'm fine with such matters being in a zombie movie (just... drop the racism!) but it doesn't belong in Superman.
@death2able
@death2able 3 жыл бұрын
@@PosthumanHeresy Still one of the best director out there. I'm glad lots of directors and actors think that as well. He deserved all the success in life. Also the Dawn of the dead remake is one of the best zombie movie ever. So god like skills.
@death2able
@death2able 3 жыл бұрын
@@KelX91 Yea i now, lots of cool batman stories that a far better than his cut from different timeline in comics, tv show and movies. But its okay because it is not the focus of this film or series. Still one of the best superhero movie.
@thefreerepublicofadmiralpr2935
@thefreerepublicofadmiralpr2935 2 жыл бұрын
This aged poorly. #RestoreTheSnyderVerse
@damnsoda8286
@damnsoda8286 2 жыл бұрын
Still pretty accurate imo, Snyder's "vision" was the worst thing to happen to DC
@MrBruh-yb9qi
@MrBruh-yb9qi 2 жыл бұрын
@@damnsoda8286 not whedon harassing actors?
@riccardo3071
@riccardo3071 2 жыл бұрын
@@MrBruh-yb9qi if whedon had had the possibility to doing a 4 hours movie it would have been far better than the Snyder cut
@thenoirknight5729
@thenoirknight5729 2 жыл бұрын
@@damnsoda8286 A vision is a vision. Why is the word "vision" in quotation marks? I disagree that it is the worst. There are others... far, far more terrible
@thenoirknight5729
@thenoirknight5729 2 жыл бұрын
#RestoreTheSnyderverse #ReleaseTheAyerCut #ContinueTheSnyderverse
@icantread4011
@icantread4011 5 жыл бұрын
wha wha he did the owl one?
@kamuiyu7387
@kamuiyu7387 4 жыл бұрын
Snyder ruin batman for me he is a hack
@holyronin
@holyronin 7 жыл бұрын
hmmm ... The moral arguments made here in reference to Dawn of the Dead apply equally to Paul Verhoeven's adaptation of Starship Troopers but in my opinion that is a film worth seeing. Maybe when it comes don't to it the bottom line is that you (and I) just don't agree with what Snyder has to say / finds interesting.
@parker469a
@parker469a 5 жыл бұрын
Isn't Starship Troopers more of a satire about fascism?
@zhengyingli
@zhengyingli 5 жыл бұрын
improves*
@Iden_Elihio_1999
@Iden_Elihio_1999 3 жыл бұрын
Well this aged well ....
@darkcucoify
@darkcucoify 3 жыл бұрын
It did. He got to release JL only because HBO max needed subscribers. It still highlights all his weakness and repetitive themes, not to mention lack of understanding of the characters and stories he's given in exchange for "style."
@Iden_Elihio_1999
@Iden_Elihio_1999 3 жыл бұрын
@@darkcucoify Yes, I agree .... I think the film was a clustered CGI mess and I am suprised I alot of of people think it is a masterpiece ......
@darkcucoify
@darkcucoify 3 жыл бұрын
@@Iden_Elihio_1999 well the problem is that the Snyder fans are so invested in this product, that it was going to be a master piece for them no matter what.
@Iden_Elihio_1999
@Iden_Elihio_1999 3 жыл бұрын
@@darkcucoify Bruh ....
@Jeff-lc7lp
@Jeff-lc7lp 3 жыл бұрын
The only reason ZSJL is being called masterpiece is because the whedon cut existed
@rekhamangairkarasi9801
@rekhamangairkarasi9801 7 жыл бұрын
I think he kinda does a good job it's Warner Bros. who screws up everything and if they shorten Justice League movie for more showtimes and then release a ultimate edition with all scenes oh fuck me iam gonna kill them
@kimfuruwal9285
@kimfuruwal9285 3 жыл бұрын
We'll see now that he got 4 hours. If he fails his fans not gonna admit it but be damn sure I will.
@weplayatnight3913
@weplayatnight3913 4 жыл бұрын
The Muslim scene where theyre praying on their rugs is meant to show how people in mass are praying for the world because of zombies, and what does a gas station blowing up have to do with 911?
@kimberleywilliams7802
@kimberleywilliams7802 5 жыл бұрын
B-b-b-but I love sucker punch
@mike_sauce
@mike_sauce Жыл бұрын
Snyder didn't direct rise of an empire fam. He only produced it. He did direct the first one though.
@peterricketts8645
@peterricketts8645 7 жыл бұрын
All art is political. All philosophy is political. The problem is simply that you dislike the sort of politics that the movie promotes.
@CyberLance26
@CyberLance26 6 жыл бұрын
Yea people never complains about stuff like that when they like it and agrees with it.
@BuFFoTheArtClown
@BuFFoTheArtClown 6 жыл бұрын
Art is not political. Art is a recreation of reality and is meant to inspire. Whatever you call art that is political, is just propaganda.
@youtubeuser3357
@youtubeuser3357 5 жыл бұрын
I agree with Buffo the Clown
@MutantsInDisguise
@MutantsInDisguise 5 жыл бұрын
Art and philosophy are not in favor of politics, jerk.
@ridanann
@ridanann 5 жыл бұрын
@Mr Temporal war war war war o yes lokk how moral politics is lol can u not tell when ur being lied to or somthing. poltics is control thats it. now if ur ok with being controled ok each to there own but if u wish to try an live as free as possible dont vote dont play the game. dont worry about hobbs hes was an idiot in a time of religious morons an irish genocide. all the political thinking needed is just try not to be a cunt if we had vote on that it'd be the end of politics. rip the people hobbs book killed in the name of lies
@Stinky805sm
@Stinky805sm 5 жыл бұрын
I completely agree!! I love this video. With all due respect, Snyder believes that "shots" and stylistic scenes make a "great" movie. That is far from the truth. Look at all the great movies that were done historically which didn't have all the fancy post editing and cg. They were movies focused primary around character development and story telling . As a result you become engaged with the movie and feel connected with it. In short, you "care" enough about what's happening in the movie.Snyder does not care about any of the true elements that make a great movie. I believe Snyder has his place in Hollywood but just not anywhere near great movie projects.
@zhengyingli
@zhengyingli 4 жыл бұрын
What makes you think Snyder only cares about stylistic shots?
@Stinky805sm
@Stinky805sm 4 жыл бұрын
The majority of his movies primary shift towards creating the best shots, lighting, cg, and angles that best suit his style. Now, I must admit I reaaaallly enjoyed Man of Steel and Dawn of the Dead. But, why is that??? I enjoyed Man of steel because it really did a good job providing a decent back story, build up, emphasis on storytelling. As a result, I was able to emotionally connect to Superman, Martha Kent, and Zod. That us because they had a purpose and made their purpose more meaningful. When Clark's dad died, it made me feel sad. Sad equals connected. Connected =Good! We need more of that on Zack's films! I said the "majority" of his films focus on stylistic shots and scenes without attempting to create a meaningful back story or connection beforehand. Zack's preference is create awesome scenes and shots first. Create interesting dialogue and story telling, second.
@zhengyingli
@zhengyingli 4 жыл бұрын
@@Stinky805sm You've separated visuals from storytelling when visual storytelling is a thing. Snyder paid as much attention to dialogue in BvS as he did in MoS. Maybe BvS is just not your cup of tea.
@Stinky805sm
@Stinky805sm 4 жыл бұрын
@@zhengyingli I see how you can make that point. But ,he "attempted" to tell too much or lack there of I'n a 3 hour movie that should have been separated into multiple deriving from BvS. It brings me back to the argument of storytelling and the lack of character development and fluidity and cohesiveness to make me want to care about things that happened in the movie. My gathering of Zack's mindset for BvS was:" Awesome shots=Check Character's Drive and Purpose=Kinda makes sense I guess, so check. Avoid crucial plot point issues so that the audience will understand forthcoming scenes and as a result will become more engaged with characters and the story= Um...I think we are ok..it makes sense to me.. kinda..but who cares. I have the shots I need to make the movie look cool"
@sevenchambers
@sevenchambers 2 жыл бұрын
@@zhengyingli Snyder is mediocre at visual storytelling.
@syafiqjabar
@syafiqjabar 5 жыл бұрын
After Justice League, this video is not so funny now. Like watching a video about how unsinkable the Titanic will be before drowning in the Titanic's lower deck.
@prajwaljayaraj5887
@prajwaljayaraj5887 3 жыл бұрын
I mean Justice League was awful with or without Whedon
@syafiqjabar
@syafiqjabar 3 жыл бұрын
@@prajwaljayaraj5887 Yes, because the specific details of the movie might be his work, but the changes in general were demanded by the studio. However, it might still turn out better with a director who works better under pressure and is better at cinematic directing.
@randomnpc5066
@randomnpc5066 5 жыл бұрын
What an awesome warning label.
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