Because I don't have flamer suits I go all burst cannons on my Starscythe

@@Puretideprogram would you if you had them? I have both so I'm flip flopping. Thank you for the reponse!

I’ve been using it since codex drop and it’s a huge deterrent. Especially in nid and ork meta where I’m at

I used a flamer unit without a commander to delete a 10 man necrons warriors unit and left the lord on 1 wound. Tanked shocked and completely took objective.

Its for the Strat to get Sustained. I take a unit of both with great success with both

@@Emperialdakka626 i use them for Overwatch a lot, and/or move in, flame something and fade

The commentary specifically says "When using out-of-phase rules to perform an action as if it were one of your phases, you cannot use any other rules that are normally triggered in that phase." Meaning that the rules which are excluded are the ones that as "in your shooting phase" or "in your fight phase" or "in your movement phase" etc. but since the fireknife rule simply states "each time a model in this unit makes an attack..." it doesn't specify it happens only in the controlling player's shooting phase and is therefore allowed during overwatch.

Where are you getting re-roll wounds from?

@@stephenfeeney2966 twinlinked, but only on the drones, not in the plasma shots.

@@stephenfeeney2966 Gun Drones are the ones getting the reroll to hit and to wound, as they are twin-linked. The Plasma shots are "only" rerolling hits.

Because you start on the battlefield and can go into strat reserve just like necrons and grey Knights

When I rapid ingressed it was not turn 1 it was custodes turn 2

@@kachentepmeethong8718 due to the Starfire ignition system from the enhancement given to the Commander. This lets him pick this unit up during the end of his opponents fight phase and place it back down on turn 1 since it originally started on the board. The deep strike and strat reserve rules on placing them down on turn 1 only affect models that started off the board.

Nope only shadowsun has that restriction

Read the Overwatch strat it says one unit from your army within 24" can shoot at something the successfully makes the charge but you do it at the starts or ends a normal,advance, fall back or charge move.

​@@Puretideprogram Thx, maybe it was an old habit of me from 9th.

@@Zolepapa yeah somethings do carry over from old editions it's why I aim not to skim read over new rules (we all do it) but you tend to miss small things that end up being huge

​@@Puretideprogram exactly, and thank you for pointing out i knew the movement phase, simply forgot that charge phase works this way as well. Thanks again

Markerlight specifies now that it gives advance and spot.

@@roycetevistownes6831 k, but did assault rules change? Gun drones also do that by virtue of keeping you eligible to shoot after advancing

Did u watched the video , he said he did it for the swagger , that's it

Yeah I did it because I like the wee marker drone 🤣

All correct but I just like the marker drone looks cool 🤣

Yes that is correct and I was not saying you do not spend the 2" to piviot but measure the long distance of the oval, you pay 2" but you gain around enough to make the charge 1" less

The base is 120-90. So the amount gained would be half the 120 (60) minus half the 90 (45) = 15mm. It’s not even close to more than 2 inch. You actually loose 1.4 inch of movement.

@@davidjones4772 Yeah I've seen a lot of people simply measuring half of the long side and forgetting you're losing half of the short side..

@@davidjones4772 This is the correct math

I will be doing more of these and have plenty more planned and extra value content within my discord patrons.

I've had it confirmed that they missed this and a few other abilities like this that will be changed to be usable next update

You can ignore the -1 to hit for indirect, correct. However, if you intend to split fire(Heavy Rail Rifles vs heavy target, Smart Missiles for indirect), then one of the targets will be with a penalty to BS(assuming you are guided). And penalties to BS are not the same as a modifier to hit rolls. Example: You Guide the Broadsides and target a transport with the HRRs. You are also stationary for the Heavy Keyword(your BS becomes 3+ and you get +1 to hit, so you are looking for 2+ to hit). You then use your Smart Missiles to target a different foe indirectly. You take a penalty to BS(your BS4+ becomes a BS5+) for splitting fire and would normally also take a -1 to hit(looking for 6s) due to Indirect, but that is negated by your Weapon Support System. The problem with Smart Missiles is that they are only strength 5 and 0 AP. I guess there could be cases where your Broadsides have an indirect target with 12"(+1 to Strength) and maybe even 6"(better AP), but it would be rare. And when only 1/3 of the shots hits in the first place, they are not going to do much. Not horrible, but not outstanding either. Weapon Support System does help against any form of modifier to hit(Stealth, suppression etc.), and so will also help your main weaponry when targeting such threats.

No you can because you start on the battlefield therefore don't follow the normal restrictions. They have Also allowed it for other factions so there is a precedent for it like necrons, custodes, grey knights etc...

That is an option 😁