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@mikeroberts7921
@mikeroberts7921 8 сағат бұрын
Nice ride! I am envious of your bike paths. We must visit Sacramento just for those. It’s a two hour drive for a great bike trail here. (Silver Comet / Chief Ladiga)
@im2yz4u17
@im2yz4u17 Күн бұрын
Beautiful trail there.
@bikestrikesrazors
@bikestrikesrazors 12 сағат бұрын
Thanks very much for watching!
@thetwopointslow
@thetwopointslow Күн бұрын
Bought an 80s Bianchi ten years ago and ride it a few times a week, usually on rides 10ish miles in length around the neighborhood area. She’s a beauty, so fun to ride, and I wouldn’t trade it for any new bike
@bikestrikesrazors
@bikestrikesrazors 11 сағат бұрын
I had a nice Bianchi in the 90's which I regret selling!
@hardladislas828
@hardladislas828 Күн бұрын
Schwinn Csepel is still making them, check them out.
@bikestrikesrazors
@bikestrikesrazors Күн бұрын
Thanks, and thanks for watching!
@user-xx2hj7xb6b
@user-xx2hj7xb6b Күн бұрын
You're preaching to the choir. I ride a '93 Bridgestone RB-1 and an '86 Schwinn Paramount. On group rides, I'm usually the only one on a steel bike and the only rider with down-tube shifters when riding the Schwinn. As you point out, old bikes are works of art. I'm a rebel, I think, with a good cause - a contrarian against electronic shifting, disc brakes, internal cabling and carbon everything. Not to mention that prices for modern road bikes are insane.
@bikestrikesrazors
@bikestrikesrazors Күн бұрын
Those are both beautiful bikes! Good on you for exposing your group ride buddies to a little culture and education! :)
@alisonleach1552
@alisonleach1552 3 күн бұрын
😂
@martinkrautter8325
@martinkrautter8325 3 күн бұрын
My bike stable comprends 90% steel bikes. Still, I dont agree fully with your arguments. The race bike frames shown with special, often butted tubing, are not easy to repair at all. Simple welding will not work in many cases - and if it works, it will still make the frame worthless for collectors or other 2nd hand buyers. Brazing and replacing tubes or lugs is possible, of course, but you will have a hard time to find a frame builder with appointments available - and you will have to repaint the frame - very expensive procedure if if you are aiming for restoring the original condition.
@bikestrikesrazors
@bikestrikesrazors 3 күн бұрын
Absolutely true, Martin. I was pretty much referring to mechanical repairs on components, but if you do have an issue with the frame, a repair is not cheap. We have a frame builder around here that will replace tubes, dropouts and such, but he's not cheap, and as you said, you'd have to repaint if you'd want the bike to look as it originally did. One positive thing about steel compared to carbon, is that if you get a dent in a tube, usually the bike is still ridable. Nope, it won't be pretty, but usually still safe to ride. I had a carbon BMC frame repaired at Calfee not long ago which cost me $600, so I'm thinking that actually repairing a carbon tube probably costs the same thing as replacing a steel tube. Thanks for your input!
@palmvictory
@palmvictory 4 күн бұрын
I promise you, with more practice climbing on those bikes, you’ll do better vs the trike. I came from northern Texas, where there is plenty of oxygen to lower oxygen Denver area. Here, hills are everywhere and I regularly tackle an 11% hill with a Performer low racer, one of their high racers (650 wheels) and a Catrike 700. After three years of this I am much improved in my hill climbing on all vehicles, though I much prefer the trike and * much better in my body’s use of oxygen.
@bikestrikesrazors
@bikestrikesrazors 4 күн бұрын
Thanks for the information and thanks for watching! I really should get more climbing in with the two-wheeled recumbents. I do climb a lot these days with the trike,
@GavinEhringer
@GavinEhringer 4 күн бұрын
I have a vintage 80s-era DeRosa with a tri-color paint scheme that is beautiful and still provides a great platform for performance and fitness. I am proud to ride it and even display it.
@bikestrikesrazors
@bikestrikesrazors 4 күн бұрын
Sounds like a beautiful bike! Those DeRosa bikes are some of the finest bikes ever made!
@massive_eggo
@massive_eggo 4 күн бұрын
I used to race these at school with carbon/Kevlar bodys in a 24hour endurance race the speeds you colud go for hours were insane sometimes upwards of 80kph for and hour or two then you wolud swap riders and normaly tires aswell we had meny blow outs they were alot worse on the race trikes as we used independent front brakes no rear to help with cornering insanely fun
@bikestrikesrazors
@bikestrikesrazors 4 күн бұрын
Yes, putting a shell on one of these really increases the aerodynamics and they become speed demons! :)
@spicybread6643
@spicybread6643 4 күн бұрын
I saw like one of these type of frame and I as think I remember , the frame brand name is called Koga Miyato and they put it on sale for like 50$ (sorry for bad English)
@bikestrikesrazors
@bikestrikesrazors 4 күн бұрын
Koga Miyata is a quality bike brand! Here’s some history: www.koga.com/en/about-koga/history
@BernardPowell-iv9ke
@BernardPowell-iv9ke 5 күн бұрын
Amazing well done !
@bikestrikesrazors
@bikestrikesrazors 5 күн бұрын
Thanks for watching, Bernard! That was a fun day! :)
@ilikesnow
@ilikesnow 5 күн бұрын
Those decals are absolutely magnificent. Unreal.
@bikestrikesrazors
@bikestrikesrazors 5 күн бұрын
Yes, the artist really did an amazing job on those! Thanks for watching!
@jerryswingle7650
@jerryswingle7650 6 күн бұрын
Thanks for lots of insights based on longtime & varied experience. Am shopping for an eTrike (currently ride a BikeE 'bent) & you've provided lots of food for thought. Loved the sound-effects w/simulated blow-out. Noted addition of rear light for Safety segment - but also irony (apologies for cheap shot) of rolling thru a stop sign in same segment. Great camera teamwork, BTW. Thanks again!!
@bikestrikesrazors
@bikestrikesrazors 6 күн бұрын
Thanks for watching and your comment, Jerry! I still have my BikeE! Got me into recumbents! Yes, Joe did blow that stop sign! Bad on him!
@user-dt6uq8ib2f
@user-dt6uq8ib2f 6 күн бұрын
Vintage perfection
@bikestrikesrazors
@bikestrikesrazors 6 күн бұрын
Thanks very much for watching, Bob!
@nicolegiguere3027
@nicolegiguere3027 6 күн бұрын
ont voit qu'en general ils descendent,ca parait bien beau mais1) il faut de belles pistes avec de la belle asphalte et pas trop de grosses montées donc tres limité pour les belles routes et tres dangereux dans le traffic car tres bas donc non visibles par les autos.J.aurais aimer en avoir un mais au canada tres peu de pistes cyclable pour ce genre de vélo
@bikestrikesrazors
@bikestrikesrazors 6 күн бұрын
Oui, ils nécessitent des conditions routières très spécifiques. J'ai la chance d'avoir une piste cyclable de 30 miles près de chez moi, et c'est là que je prends habituellement le tricycle. J'ai de jolis quartiers à faible trafic à proximité qui font du bien. "triking". :) Merci beaucoup d'avoir regardé !
@ianjohnson4987
@ianjohnson4987 6 күн бұрын
Very nice video. Thanks. My abiding memory of owning an unsprung trike is how it would shake your fillings out going over bumps. Great fun though and trikes are super fun drifting round fast corners. Cheers from England
@bikestrikesrazors
@bikestrikesrazors 6 күн бұрын
Hey, Ian! Yep, we’re lucky to have a nice trail and pretty nice roads around here. I’ve hit rough pavement a few times with an non-suspended trike and you realize the need for suspension pretty quickly. :) Still, the VTX seems to me to be the smoothest riding unsuspended trike I’ve ridden. Thanks for watching!
@claudiomartins5768
@claudiomartins5768 7 күн бұрын
Old School bikes are better than modern bikes. Road bikes, mtb, were built to last. No doubt.
@geralddavis7401
@geralddavis7401 7 күн бұрын
Better? No. It's subjective. I am 74 and started racing in 1965. I have modern carbon (I wont be going to discs - too many great rim brake wheels - yes including deep section carbon) And vintage chromoly. Which is better? Its a silly question. They are different - face it - if vintage bikes were better at converting human energy into forward motion they would still be in the pro peloton. So I love riding my steel . . . but from my teens I have been a race cyclist and in my 70s still ride TTs. Even the club runs get competitive in the last 5km . . .so guess what weapon I am gonna be on for the the dash to home? Clue: It aint the steel . . . And I love the ride of my Giant TCR Advanced SL . . . I would rather ride that over cobbles on 28s than steel on 19s like I used to . . . just saying . . .
@bikestrikesrazors
@bikestrikesrazors 7 күн бұрын
Absolutely, Gerald. In the video, I only meant to point out that there are some aspects of vintage bikes that are, of course, in my subjective opinion, better than modern bikes. Conversely, there are aspects of modern bikes that are better than vintage bikes. Hey, that's an idea for another video! :) Thanks for watching!
@MPIGuyRichards
@MPIGuyRichards 7 күн бұрын
I had a spot of basil cell carcinoma on my left arm that had to get cut out. I now wear long sleave sun shirts when I mow and ride inside on a trainer year-round. I think I was only outside for less than 100 out of 4200 miles last year. My dermatologist said the best sunscreens are the ones with the minerals in them.
@bikestrikesrazors
@bikestrikesrazors 7 күн бұрын
Yep, I guess those mineral sunscreens won't leach chemicals into your internal organs like the chemical sunscreens. Still, I've tried a few mineral sunscreens and they cake on so heavy they don't seem like a realistic option for something like arms and legs. I know a lot of riders that have just gone over to SPF clothing and cover up completely while riding. Of course, riding on that indoor trainer is the absolute safest option and you can't get hit by a texting driver! Thanks for watching!
@romemancer7905
@romemancer7905 7 күн бұрын
I have a MASI from the early 2000s built by TREK who saved the brand...I have the blue and white Le Tour anniversary model from their win !
@bikestrikesrazors
@bikestrikesrazors 7 күн бұрын
Nice! Get out, ride and enjoy that beautiful bike!
@dinodaniel2237
@dinodaniel2237 7 күн бұрын
Have you read the book “Ninety Years of Masi” released in 2016.
@bikestrikesrazors
@bikestrikesrazors 7 күн бұрын
Yes, Daniel! It's sitting right next to me as I type! Great book! Are you a California Dino?
@dinodaniel2237
@dinodaniel2237 7 күн бұрын
@dinodaniel2237
@dinodaniel2237 6 күн бұрын
@@bikestrikesrazors. No the only California connection is a Torelli road frame. Are you familiar with this make?
@bikestrikesrazors
@bikestrikesrazors 5 күн бұрын
@@dinodaniel2237 I am! I had a red Torelli back in the late 90's. :)
@Olyphoto7
@Olyphoto7 7 күн бұрын
Cool bikes. I really need to take some time and watch Breaking Away again, it’s been more than twenty years. Thanks for sharing.
@bikestrikesrazors
@bikestrikesrazors 7 күн бұрын
Definitely too long! Watch it again as soon as you can. American Flyers...you can wait another twenty years. :) Thanks for watching!
@evanking920
@evanking920 7 күн бұрын
Those are beautiful bicycles. I am sure they are so enjoyable because you have rolling masterpieces.
@bikestrikesrazors
@bikestrikesrazors 7 күн бұрын
Hey, Evan! Lots of fun! I do realize how lucky I am to have so many bikes and trikes to choose from for a ride. Keeps things interesting! :)
@matthewsmith6486
@matthewsmith6486 7 күн бұрын
I have some old friends that used to ride Masi's. Oh I wish I'd bought them all those years ago when they sold them to buy the next "best" thing. I just didn't know.........As they say "hind sight is 20/20".
@bikestrikesrazors
@bikestrikesrazors 7 күн бұрын
I don't think there was much appreciation for vintage bikes say twenty or thirty years ago, Matthew. They were just "old", and everyone wanted the next, newest thing. Keep an eye on the local garage sales. You never know what might show up! Thanks for watching!
@douglas1559
@douglas1559 7 күн бұрын
Love the vintage steal frames with filed lugs, paint end Chrome had quite a few of them back in the seventies and 80s look like a great day riding thanks for sharing💫
@bikestrikesrazors
@bikestrikesrazors 7 күн бұрын
Thanks very much for watching, Douglas!
@knmagor0024-xw8pl
@knmagor0024-xw8pl 8 күн бұрын
No one. Vintage nerds: *proceeds to put vintage 5 speed on a modern road bike*
@evanking920
@evanking920 9 күн бұрын
We are watching an old video of Huell Howser on the American River Parkway. I hope you two are well since no posts for a month.
@bikestrikesrazors
@bikestrikesrazors 8 күн бұрын
I missed that one! Did he ride a bike? We're fine. We have a video already filmed, just need to finish editing and narration. :)
@thomaspolley4977
@thomaspolley4977 9 күн бұрын
If I was to look for a vintage road bike, what would be thee one to get. The most desirable. The bike that everyone regards as the quintessential road bike from their childhood. "the one that got away". "I wish I still had my _____". Or maybe you still have it. Not necessarily rare, not necessarily the most expensive, but Seasoned riders see it and they nod in appreciation. If it was a tool, it would be a trade name like crescent wrench, or skilsaw "there are many copies, but this is the real s__t". My brother in law speaks fondly of the Fuji and Panasonic road bikes he had in his teens. 10 years ago I bought a 1979 Schwinn LeTour at a thrift store. I might have paid $10 or $15 for it. I only bought it because it said "made in America". I thought i had found something special. I put some time and money in it getting it back to rideable condition. It was actually a good looking blue bike. But I only rode it a few times. I think the frame was too small for me. I sold it. I've been kinda halfway looking for another road bike but I'm not sure what to get.
@bikestrikesrazors
@bikestrikesrazors 9 күн бұрын
Hey Thomas! Interesting question. It really depends on the person as everyone's experiences with seeing high end bikes "back in the day" and drooling was different. :) I can tell you that some folks think the top-level bikes back then were Cinelli and De Rosa. Masi was close behind (or ahead depending on who you talk to). The pre-1978 Cinelli bikes are before a take-over, so they are more desirable. The Masi bikes from the 70's are sought after and into the late 80's depending on the model. Lots to look at and learn to make an informed decision. Bikes made by people like Moulton, Sachs, Merz, 3Rensho, Eisentraut, Lippy, Serotta...the list goes on are all highly regarded. If you want the one bike that will make all the other riders jealous and fall over themselves. you can get a "Confente" if you can find one and afford it. :)
@gregsettle9725
@gregsettle9725 10 күн бұрын
You just need to be faster than the guy behind you! Great video with beautiful views.
@bikestrikesrazors
@bikestrikesrazors 10 күн бұрын
Thanks, Greg! I'll remember that! It'll give me more incentive to train. :)
@markhuckercelticcrossbows7887
@markhuckercelticcrossbows7887 10 күн бұрын
great video, i just put my 87 ozark and 89 mirage up for sale, as i just aquired a minty appalachian :)
@bikestrikesrazors
@bikestrikesrazors 10 күн бұрын
Amazing that you can still stumble across minty MTB bikes from this era, Mark! Nice find!
@markhuckercelticcrossbows7887
@markhuckercelticcrossbows7887 10 күн бұрын
the sport, was sold here in the uk, as the Raleigh Maverick GT, made in japan
@bikestrikesrazors
@bikestrikesrazors 8 күн бұрын
Interesting! Yes, I heard that they were built by Miyata.
@jdrower
@jdrower 11 күн бұрын
What are the trikes you two are riding in the beginning of each of your superlative videos? Thanks
@bikestrikesrazors
@bikestrikesrazors 10 күн бұрын
In the intro? That would be the ICE VTX! kzfaq.info/get/bejne/mNZ1YJCi18ido40.html Thanks for watching!
@jdrower
@jdrower 9 күн бұрын
@@bikestrikesrazors Thanks. Is there a location that goes into the mods you guys have done to your trikes?
@bikestrikesrazors
@bikestrikesrazors 8 күн бұрын
@@jdrower The trikes are pretty much stock. No mods. :)
@michaelmcdaniel5053
@michaelmcdaniel5053 11 күн бұрын
Hey Rich & Joe, Laguna Seca is open again tonight (June 11) from 5:30 to 7:00. I'm going to try it. Come on down
@bikestrikesrazors
@bikestrikesrazors 10 күн бұрын
I just saw this now, Michael- 9:20pm, on the night of the track event! Did you go? What did you think? I'm always the last to know! :)
@michaelmcdaniel5053
@michaelmcdaniel5053 10 күн бұрын
@@bikestrikesrazors Yes. I went. Weather was warm and sunny. The uphill to the Corkscrew was a bit strenuous. The Corkscrew was great! I did four laps. I was the only trike there. I had a great time. Thanks to you guys for the reminder about Twilight Cycling. I think I'm going to try to do it often. I got a couple of comments about my going really fast through the corkscrew. I found it was quite comfortable going fast when I didn't have to worry about deer and pedestrians jumping out in front of the trike. It would be fun to meet you guys if you came down to the July event. Hope to see you there. By the way, I retired from Pebble Beach and can't get free golf any more. Sorry about that.😃
@bikestrikesrazors
@bikestrikesrazors 10 күн бұрын
@@michaelmcdaniel5053 Great to hear you had a good time out there, Michael! Yep, I was shocked by how steep that climb was up to the top of The Corkscrew. It was worth it though for the ride down! I just checked and all the remaining Twilight Cycling nights this year are during the week, when we can't take the long trip down from Shingle Springs, so it looks like we'll have to wait and see what next year's Twilight Cycling schedule looks like. No more Pebble Beach?! I guess now you'll have to settle for the Pacific Grove course, which, while it's no Pebble Beach, is pretty dang nice. :)
@michaelmcdaniel5053
@michaelmcdaniel5053 10 күн бұрын
@@bikestrikesrazors If you guys happen to be coming down this way for riding or golfing, let me know. I'd be happy to join up and play golf or ride on the bike trails around Monterey with you. I'm retired now so unless my lovely bride has me doing something, I'm usually free as a bird. By the way, I think the ride from Marina to Pebble Beach has the Tahoe trail beat for "beauty". But of course that's just my opinion.
@bikestrikesrazors
@bikestrikesrazors 8 күн бұрын
@@michaelmcdaniel5053 I think I agree with you. That ride to Pebble Beach is a stunner! I'll let you know the next time we're down there with the trikes!
@ricowhoo1313
@ricowhoo1313 11 күн бұрын
race bikes cant be art
@agustinblanco7673
@agustinblanco7673 12 күн бұрын
I got a 90 batavus champion and that is like a f1 when ride it i feel like senna in monaco 88 with one hand at shifter and the other to the handlebar gg . And non stop over taking bikes on the lane
@bikestrikesrazors
@bikestrikesrazors 12 күн бұрын
Cool bike! And you don't need any pit stops! :)
@johngulino2651
@johngulino2651 12 күн бұрын
When I saw the video title, I thought the ride was one person riding a standard road bike, the other on a trike. 😀
@bikestrikesrazors
@bikestrikesrazors 12 күн бұрын
We've done rides like that, but we both took trikes on this ride. :)
@BruceFarrar-ir1zy
@BruceFarrar-ir1zy 13 күн бұрын
I would have enjoyed some stats: avg. speed, top speed, elapsed time, for instance. Also, would you have enjoyed a higher top gear, a 60 tooth front sprocket maybe?
@bikestrikesrazors
@bikestrikesrazors 12 күн бұрын
Hey, Bruce! This time around we were so busy shooting the video we couldn’t really make an effort to go fast, which is the natural inclination on a race track. :) We’ll be going back at some point just to push it and enjoy the ride!
@nitinh2499
@nitinh2499 13 күн бұрын
I bought a basic Bianchi Trofeo back in the mid 1990s. I’ve put thousands of miles on it since, and with basic periodic tuneups, the old steel bike still runs just fine. I have a more recent carbon fiber Pinarello Gan as well which I ride every day. I really enjoy the faster rides on the newer bike, but I roll the old one out once in a while for a leisurely ride as well. Old bikes are great. Long live old bikes.
@bikestrikesrazors
@bikestrikesrazors 13 күн бұрын
Thanks for the input! Those are two beautiful bikes you have there!
@HermannKerr
@HermannKerr 14 күн бұрын
all the following relates to touring style DRUM BRAKES: The Stormy Archer drumbrakes can over heat enough to warp and long steep hills. HYDRAULIC DISK BRAKES if you know and really good at maintaining Hydraulic brakes fine, if not then steer clear of them. I have owned three trikes and I would ride any of them without a Head Rest. I just have to think of a long climb to know why. BLOWOUT I blew a rear tire doing about 90 km/hr. It was a bit wiggly but I brought her safely to a stop. I figured I had a slow lead and the tire side wall got taken out when I hit a bit of a pot hole. ROLLING I have rolled a trick three times at slow speed doing something stupid. Going down hill on a windy paved road at high speed I use my inside brake to determine if I am leaning out enough. If it easily skids I am not. SAFETY: Visibility is key. bright clothes, lights, flags and hand signals and most importantly use your eyes and your mirrors.
@bikestrikesrazors
@bikestrikesrazors 14 күн бұрын
Thanks very much for giving us the benefit of your experience, Hermann!
@gugalldiznii383
@gugalldiznii383 15 күн бұрын
oh whew, I thought I was just a bit of a wuss when my arms get a little tired
@custodialmark
@custodialmark 15 күн бұрын
see me, mark s g. graybeal custodialmark retired. with old tires. bikes.given dozen. 6 left. trike an e mt bike in op. butt let free spirt 3 speed to our local Marfa public radio station , for personal an visitor use. my ol Hurculese not race but gud ride. Adam at bike shop had much an we will try to maintain a few.
@ericmonty
@ericmonty 16 күн бұрын
I began riding mountain bikes in 1986 on that same trail. As soon as I saw the lake in the shot I knew right where you were. 😁
@bikestrikesrazors
@bikestrikesrazors 16 күн бұрын
How cool is that, Eric?! And it’s still a nice trail! :)
@ericmonty
@ericmonty 16 күн бұрын
@@bikestrikesrazors yeah I moved away from the area in ‘95 but got to ride the trail again about five years ago. I agree, it’s still great!
@ianwhitehead3086
@ianwhitehead3086 17 күн бұрын
The San Rensho was late to the game but I saw one and it’s amazing angles and I drooled back in the 80’s
@ianwhitehead3086
@ianwhitehead3086 17 күн бұрын
Detto Piettro
@bikestrikesrazors
@bikestrikesrazors 16 күн бұрын
Good eye, Ian! Still some of the most comfortable cycling shoes I own. :)
@ianwhitehead3086
@ianwhitehead3086 17 күн бұрын
Why is a recumbent in the video?
@bikestrikesrazors
@bikestrikesrazors 16 күн бұрын
It must have just rolled by while we were shooting. :)
@rodneyperry3124
@rodneyperry3124 17 күн бұрын
Shifters that aren't on the handlebars and skinny tires that are hard as a brick because you have to put a ton of pressure in them to avoid pinch flats isn't my jam. Sorry.
@bikestrikesrazors
@bikestrikesrazors 17 күн бұрын
Thanks for the comment, Rodney! To each, their own! I tried the fat tire/low pressure thing and it wasn't for me. Still don't have any issues with downtube shifters, but I can see that some people wouldn't feel comfortable taking their hands off the bars.
@dilmurodavalbaev1392
@dilmurodavalbaev1392 17 күн бұрын
Great video. One big factor is riding in the drops is not sustainable for many on longer distances
@bikestrikesrazors
@bikestrikesrazors 17 күн бұрын
Great point!
@barryrobbins7694
@barryrobbins7694 18 күн бұрын
I like steel bikes, but I would not put vintage components on a custom build frame. Some more modern components are just functionally better. 1. Index shifting 2. Clipless pedals 3. Threadless headsets 4. Modern brake hoods (better ergonomics) 5. Modern Handle bars (better ergonomics) 6. I don’t need disc brakes (even though they have their advantages)
@bikestrikesrazors
@bikestrikesrazors 17 күн бұрын
I'm not sure what I would put on a new custom steel bike that followed the look of an older steel bike. I do enjoy all of the things you stated above when riding my modern bikes.
@barryrobbins7694
@barryrobbins7694 17 күн бұрын
@@bikestrikesrazors The other thing about steel bikes is that they take much less energy to produce. Carbon fiber is very energy intensive to make, and contributes more to greenhouse gas emissions. Production releases gases such as hydrogen cyanide (HCN), methane (CH4), ammonia (NH3), and carbon monoxide (CO). Although almost all of it is incinerated before being released into the atmosphere, small quantities do escape. These plants run 24 hours a day for long periods.
@barryrobbins7694
@barryrobbins7694 18 күн бұрын
If someone hasn’t said it yet, lugged steel bicycles are brazed - not welded.
@bikestrikesrazors
@bikestrikesrazors 16 күн бұрын
Absolutely correct, Barry!