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@blackbandit1290 Сағат бұрын
Me after looking at the conditions and asking pilot how bad the ice was and not getting a positive response. I would have decided to remain another night or two.
@privateer0561 Сағат бұрын
How could the pilot be so stupid?
@koby15 3 сағат бұрын
What was your indication for calling it? Think that could be informative.
@PilotInstituteAirplanes Сағат бұрын
We weren’t able to keep climbing.
@RaceMentally 4 сағат бұрын
As a new pilot I find this absolutely insane. Like on every level just crazy.
@markgrunzweig6377 5 сағат бұрын
Egoitiss?
@openbabel 7 сағат бұрын
Consider in depth..the extra weight the airframe had due to ice build up. Then consider pilots actions near stall. It would be apparent that the pilot actually used the ailerons close to stall at low speed instead of exclusively using the rudder controls. Accidents usually happen when there is a series of events happening together. An avoidable accident.
@donalddodson7365 8 сағат бұрын
So very sad when the hubris of one person claims the Iives of many. 😢
@budm9982 10 сағат бұрын
This makes me wonder just what the pressing issue was that had this pilot ignoring so many red flag warnings for this flight, putting so many people's lives at risk and ultimately paying a tragic price. So sad and so preventable.
@korky122 11 сағат бұрын
knute... is that for notre dame ?
@scratchypants1 11 сағат бұрын
Not excusing, but I could see how a pilot/owner of a PC-12 could be betrayed by its tolerance for flirting with its limitations. Just not all at once, as mentioned.
@sparky6200 13 сағат бұрын
PPLs with Instrument ratings should NOT be flying this plane....its not a giant TBM man. That right there is what is causing all these crashes. Pilatus will sell them to anyone. Remember when Cirrus did that in the early 2000s? That also worked out well
@armorer1984 15 сағат бұрын
There's just so much wrong with this flight. Taking out the bad decision to go, the decision to rotate early and try to climb at that rate WHILE TURNING is absolutely mind-boggling. Simply accepting a modest rate of climb and slowly building airspeed straight out would have likely avoided the loss of control. In looking at the area, climbing just 200' straight out would have put them over everything and had a clear path to climb at a paltry 100 feet a minute if need-be to keep their speed up. Just poor airmanship all the way around when you combine that with all of the bad aeronautical decision making. Just goes to show you that no matter how advanced the aircraft, the basic flight principles will always apply.
@dwighttaylor5107 18 сағат бұрын
So helpful thanks
@dwighttaylor5107 19 сағат бұрын
Lots of great information very helpful.
@PilotInstituteAirplanes 18 сағат бұрын
Glad it was helpful! 🙌
@alsecen5674 19 сағат бұрын
Too much ego, too little pilot
@sethcampbellmusic 22 сағат бұрын
Get-there-itis strikes again.
@tazman8697 23 сағат бұрын
What caused this crash?...STUPIDITY.. Nothing else really..
@BridMhor 23 сағат бұрын
If I were a passenger no way would I go on that plane in that weather. Some things are just too obvious even to non-pilots.
@GeorgeSemel 23 сағат бұрын
The PC-12 is a very good and capable airplane, I never got to fly one thou I wanted to in my career before I retired in 2021 due to covid and some medical issues. In simple terms this was pretty much a take off and departure stall. There is a whole lot of worms in this one. Just not going would have been best, heck I sure would not have gone. Since they all had accomatations . the number of Pax is troubling as well as not being in CG. Not a day to fly that for sure. Lack of attention to detail and the regulations.
@hassi55 23 сағат бұрын
Does military pilots in other countries can get CPL/ ATPL. and what about job in USA after getting FAA certificate.
@ronduncan9527 Күн бұрын
Get-home-itis. One of the leading causes of aircraft accidents! You’d think someone flying a PC12 would de-ice!
@68slayer Күн бұрын
Money changes people. Mother nature wasn't going to get in his way.
@franflan11 Күн бұрын
Pilot was full of himself, plain & simple.
@secondrule Күн бұрын
As soon as the plane started to stall, he should have pitched down to pick up speed, but maybe the CG was too far back, he could not keep the pitch down.
@svenf1 Күн бұрын
"The pilot insists that they need to get home" - the definition of Get-there-itis.
@erichetherington9899 Күн бұрын
nice ty :)
@Darkvirgo88xx Күн бұрын
Hold up if I'm not mistaken this is the crash where they were deicing the plane with janitorial equipment missing most of it. Then they were told the runway was too bad and the airport owner advised them not to depart. Instead the pilot basically rushed his crew of the runway plowing through the unprepared runway and taking off. Once airborne the instantly started having stick shaker activations until eventually smoking it into the terrain. Plus they were flying with all those people like it was a school bus.
@puriphi Күн бұрын
Some rich dude: "i dont understand why.. usually laws bend when i pay for it"
@herbieschwartz9246 Күн бұрын
Arrogance is a deadly disease that pilots sometimes get with increasing flight hours.
@ATSK_eDiTs Күн бұрын
Where is y'all guys school?
@brandonmcheyenehoward1077 Күн бұрын
Insane pilot 😮
@jmiq Күн бұрын
So sad. I'm just an imaginary pilot, but watching some of these GA tragedies makes me wonder if there isn't a tendency, on the part of some including this pilot, to place too much confidence in the power, bells and whistles of newer, higher-end aircraft. "No worries, this is a PC-12." Just a thought.
@bobace83 Күн бұрын
This is one of the most ignorant pilots I’ve ever heard of
@scottmoseley5122 Күн бұрын
SAD. :{ I would like to know what was sooooo important not to stay at the lodge again another night or two? I cant' believe he had the nerve to take the innocent pax up (over loaded) into that weather. What was so important? People need a reality check that they are not sooo important and that they can actually be late a day or two, or week and the Earth will still keep on spinning. Take care pilots.
@bwro66 Күн бұрын
Arrogance. Privilege.
@sparty94 Күн бұрын
i don't understand these cowboys that are willing to put other people's lives at risk. passengers are counting on your sound judgement so you've got to play it safe.
@simonpotter7534 Күн бұрын
The mentality of the pilot is amazing that he was prepared to put his family and friends fataly at risk against the advice of others. He had 3 hours to mull this over while deicing the aircraft in continuing bad weather conditions. The airport manager was practically begging him not to take off and he ignores the 'runway is closed'.
@georgiabobcat8695 Күн бұрын
Pilot: "We're going to be just fine." and his passengers trusted his judgement.
@katsbreez Күн бұрын
So sad for the passengers. The one that was worried about the icing and the one who said the traveler's prayer really got to me. I wonder if the child was among the survivors.
@maurice7413 Күн бұрын
12- & 5-year-olds died. The narrator of this video says the youngest was 7, but Kathryn's report has photos and shows Houston Hansen was 5. Don't recall how many children were on the plane.
@althalus401 Күн бұрын
Cause of the accident, the nut on the control column
@Darkvirgo88xx Күн бұрын
One of them was also sick all you hear is sniffing and coughing on the cvr. I think someone unqualified was trying to help in the right seat I'm I remember correctly and it was whoever was sick.
@arpeltier Күн бұрын
This guy thought he was invincible. That plane never should have taxied, let alone taken off into low IFR with ice on the tail, overweight and outside the CG limits. Oh... and who flies with 2 people more than there are seats!!?? Unreal. I guess you get a couple thousand hours under your belt, and you think the rules don't apply to you anymore. He exhibited so many of the bad mindset/behaviors the FAA warns us about. I feel bad for his passengers. Great presentation.
@blazer6248 Күн бұрын
They lost 4 generations of his family because of his carelessness. Smh.
@PilotInstituteAirplanes 8 сағат бұрын
Thank you! 🙌
@normg2242 Күн бұрын
What I want to know is - why did the prayer not work...?!?!?
@AlbertHess-xy7ky 22 сағат бұрын
Imagine there's no heaven It's easy if you try No hell below us Above us, only sky Imagine all the people Living for today
@keppscrossing 7 сағат бұрын
Contrary to what many people think, prayer does not alter reality. It cannot. Properly executed prayer helps us align ourselves with reality.
@AlbertHess-xy7ky 6 сағат бұрын
@@keppscrossing Prayer is bullshit.
@normg2242 5 сағат бұрын
@keppscrossing; @AlbertHess-xy7ky ... I hope you guys realize that my comment was "tongue-in-cheek"... 🤣
@AlbertHess-xy7ky Сағат бұрын
@@keppscrossing Explain how it helps?
@redb.3885 Күн бұрын
Motels are cheap
@bayouflier6641 Күн бұрын
Solid analysis.
@jeffreyhansen6740 Күн бұрын
Retired, Old, Bold, I used the rule of 3 fits for many circumstances. The 3P’s Procedures Policies Philosophies In flight training, they give you a handful of skill and a handful of luck. Don’t runout of either. I won’t discuss at ramp!!! Obvious Even during taxi out the rule of three. 7mins From ATC NEGATIVE TELL THEM WHAT YOU NEED!! Radio 📻 transmission warnings from airport The taxi 🚕 Stay safe thanks for sharing.
@plasticmojo8384 Күн бұрын
Schweet,Bad Juju on the pilots Decision to take off,As Waun Brown would say a classic case of Get there Itis?
@bunglejoy3645 Күн бұрын
I would have said im reporting you to FAA if uou tske off youre endangering your passengers and id fone it yo vover mysellf
@madezra64 Күн бұрын
I was wondering this myself. Did the airport have the authority to ground him though? I feel like since it was a private aircraft that ATC didn't have authority to stop him from taking off once he got IFR clearance. Honestly it's probably the accepting airport's fault for granting him clearance, and they even only gave him like 7 minutes to taxi and take off so I have to wonder if they gave him the shortest amount of time possible in hopes that he would give up and try again later. I definitely agree though that threats of reporting to the FAA should've been thrown one way or another. I can only imagine how heart broken the lodge owner was. He knew it was coming and did what he could. Hell I have to wonder if the video was to report him if he made it. Hell even calling the police to make a pitiful attempt at slowing them down might have been enough to screw over his short IFR clearance.
@jrhartley6742 Күн бұрын
very well done, thankyou
@Zzrdemon6633 Күн бұрын
this guy is the reason why there are so many regulations in aviation, still didn't help this id ten dot error