As a kid I thought LSP was amusing. Hilarious even at times. But when I rewatched the show as an adult, I wasn’t laughing. She’d sometimes have a line or two that got a genuine laugh out of me, but for the most part, she was just unpleasant and boring. Just as an example, I remember really liking the episode “The Monster” when I was younger. But I was just kinda bored when I watched it again, cause it’s just LSP being herself for 11 minutes.

If a bad joke about sexual impropriety from my character who is improper in every other way ruins the character then you should be watching a show about actual bubblegum princesses. Likable characters do worse stuff than the villains of the show as dubbed by the Twitter audience, it's a show about killing fairies and monsters in exchange for sexual favors that ran for 10 seasons that's going to happen. That flame princess s*** was f**** there's no other way to put it but it's finns story and we saw his hardships and his f***** up dreams. You can say that she deserves a seven season ark to explain but she's a minor side character the assault was Finn's story.

Hey lumpy space will always be a solid gag

The SA really ruined her character for me. I really enjoyed her throughout the series because of her sass and ability to make me laugh. I wish her relationship with Lemongrab 3 would've came before that episode 😭

Great video! I got curious after watching, so I looked up if anyone commented about this from the show, and this led me to Jesse Moynihan discussing it on Tumblr (He's worked on AT and Midnight Gospel.) I'm just ripping what he said with copy paste, so it's up to y'all to decide what you take out of this: "I don’t think we ever clearly defined tier 15, so I don’t know. The second question is harder to answer - because this scene was to me, the climax of Finn’s journey into darkness. Finn definitely went along with LSP’s advances. He was exploring his emptiness and wondering how far he could go. In the end Finn didn’t feel good about french kissing (or whatever, it’s not important) with LSP but maybe it was something he had to find out through experience. Sometimes you have to reach your lowest self to know what you can build on. All this stuff is pulling from my life experience and personal trials that I’m trying to transmute through the screen in a macrocosmic fashion. What I mean by “macrocosmic” is the larger Truth than just our mundane lowercase truth; Like the larger Love, Princess Bubblegum sings about at the end." It's a scene that unfortunately feels very... not right, and I think that was the point, but the execution is what I think makes this out to be way darker than it actually was. As for me, I remember dropping AT for a while JUST because Finn and FP breaking up, but I've come to appreciate the story they were trying to tell. It was never meant to be something "fun" to watch at points, and honestly it's kind of cool. I don't know whether it's worse to show french kissing or implying it, maybe the latter seeing as it sparked all of this to start.

Many songs were missing, like "momma said", "slow dance with you", "greatly appreciated", "Francis forever", "why do i look up to you", "on a tropical island"

I still like LSP, they could never make me hate you.

I was ok with LSP and liked her in some episodes....untill THAT Episode with the r*pe Finn "joke". Even as a Kid that traumatized me.

I remember hating LSP when I was younger,but on my most recent rewatch she was one of the highlights. There's just something fun about a character that revels in their own shittiness

Literally the only thing I remember about her is the episode where she SA Finn

17:01 I read this word VERY differently...

She’s a teenager?

I really really hate that they made her a r*pist. I really enjoyed her character, I loved how she talked and I thought she was funny. Luckily the r*pe episode flew over my head years ago but after rewatching Adventure time, I will never be able to look at LSP the same again.

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Am I the only one who hates the "We don't talk about..." thumbnails of some of the most widely talked about characters in their series? Like who's we

0:14 I don’t know about that, I think that title goes to Trina Riffin from grojband

2:19 schnoz berserk?

i like pendleton ward. i think he's a good writer - adventure time, and midnight gospel are two of my favorite works of fiction. but i don't think the writing in adventure time is good at portraying either gender. whenever the show focuses on it, it seems to go sour. i think princess bubblegum is an even worse example than lsp in this case. she's a f@scist, hypocritical monster that cuts people apart for fun, and that's not out of place for a leader in adventure time. but when you add on that layer of manipulating finn so deliberately, and unapologetically, it takes the cushion of surrealism away. as demonstrated with lsp, and that nonconsensual scene, it only takes one botched joke to recontextualize an entire character into being unforgiveable. that joke reminds people of real situations where romantic, or sexual activities were forced on them. bubblegum reminds me of real people who have tricked me into believing they had good in them, when they're full of nothing but evil. for me, the equivalent of that lsp moment for bubblegum is when she's revealed to actually be jealous of flame princess being with finn. and when it's revealed she used ice king to secretly engage in environmental warfare against the flame kingdom, just so she could dominate flame princess. if it was just one, or the other, it wouldn't be so bad. both of them happening paint her as a deeply depraved sadist who derives her greatest joy from controlling others against their will. and the show does not call her out in ways that convey an awareness of what's wrong with her. having her turn off those cameras was already meaningless before it was shown that she still spies on people, because it's just her narcissistic way of trying to feel like she's a good person, after justifying her petty campaign of vengeance on flame princess with fake paranoia. yeah, bubblegum. i'm sure your desire to harass a teenager makes you very paranoid of her nation's superweapons. what a good person you are for leaving her one of them, that's totally not just a selfish ego stroke at the expense of your kingdom's safety. the one you supposedly destroyed the other superweapons for. that context makes everything else she does in the series foul. marceline isn't her girlfriend, she's her toy. the candy kingdom aren't her people, they're her toys. ooo isn't a setting, it's just a big toybox, for the ✨🍬_most perfect person in the universe_🍬✨ to use, and discard. she's had centuries to learn about the world she lives in, and she hasn't learned a thing about morality, other than the fact that she can get away with violating it. there is no magic artifact corroding her brain, and there is at least one other organism that came out of the mother gum who's not evil. there is no excuse for her behavior. bubblegum should have died with the lich's introduction. if we could've known back then the kind of person she was, her perishing in that radioactive waste would've been poetic, because she's a walking analogue for what probably started the mushroom wars in the first place. phew. i'd been keeping that in for a while.

I feel like saying that interspecies relationships would be weird in kung fu panda is a poor and strange point. Why wouldnt they be normal? It'd have strange implications if they werent... otherwise awesome video!!!

Isn't she a bad character on purpose though? I was never under the impression that I was supposed to like her. From the very beginning she struck me as the sort of comic relief you love to hate, so she never upset me personally beyond being annoyed with her behavior.

I just couldn't see LSP the same way after she seemingly forced Finn into... whatever happened after that fade-to-black. It was a poorly done joke and I would bet that it made a few viewers remember quite traumatizing things that happened in their own life, as it did me. If that 'joke' didn't exist, I'd just consider her an ok character, but...

She’s always been one dimensional and annoying to me but holy shit that one scene with that fade-to-black with Finn. I have hated her ever since. Do I even need to say reverse the gender and you'll understand? Cause i think were past ignoring boys in the discussion of sexual assault. For fucks sake just him pulling the blanket over his shoulder like that!!! Why was this a joke in a kids show!?

anytime i try to watch adventure time this is the character that most makes me desperately just want to watch literally anything else (the first episodes are just a struggle i guess)

It my cats name,

oh i absolutely love lsp

the kiss n fade to black is my most hated 'joke' in my favourite show ever to imply she forced Finn into a make-out or sex is just disgusting and her age/attitude is no excuse it ruined LSP for me, I cannot enjoy the character anymore.... not like they really did anything good with her

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Wonderful analysis, I really hope the algorithm spreads this vid <3

I always used to love lsp since the show was first airing and I was so confused when people hated her. Her doing what she did to Finn was awful and growing up I realize that now but I feel like most people hated her because she was just an annoying, selfish girl.

Do not compare. Lspn to Turning red that's not a right comparison.

this is a great video !

Nope. Never changed my mind. Still hate the character. Is was and will always be trash.

I didn't properly watch Adventure Time all the way through until a year or two ago and LSP was one of my favourites lmao. I never understood the hate she's so funny to me. Edit: People not liking her because of the sexual assault 'joke' is totally valid. To me it reads less like something LSP would actually do and more like a harmful gag that the writers put it without really thinking about it; but if that's the reason for your hate then I can understand.

6:54 I haven't watched a lot of this show, but this is a mindset that I wish more people had when it came to writing women in fiction. It doesn't just have to be where they're forced into the binary of existing for male characters development (not necessarily limited to romance) and an unrealistic standard of perfection marketed as empowerment. We're human beings and thus are capable of making mistakes and those mistakes and personal obstacles being portrayed in media can be just as relatable as a character's hobbies, sense of humor, or aspirations.

my soul is LSP shaped

I'm loving this new plethora of Adventure Time content from you.

These opinions are just wrong

Oh yeah robots is fucking funny as fuck lile yeah and its all becuade robin williams is in it vocing that red robot named fender like a fender bender that guy lands ecery fucking joke like i dont get how people think that thats one of his weaker roles becuade robin eilliams was funny in the movie robots so quick whittef even when hes about to die

Mannys the goat of ice age hes sofnucking funny and at times he can be such a roaster at the start of the ice age movies he kind of acts like gru from despicable me like he diesnt give a shit about snyone but tahtd why we love hid sarcasm

It's their only good trilogy and with the direction the mcu is headed in it's likely to stay that way

This is the exception all mcu movies I realized were boring after the hype was gone but every time I watch gardians honestly every time it's better than I remember

So how can't people forgive relatively unknown historical inaccuracies and CAN forgive famous mythological inaccuracies?! Mythology is part of history too and Disney tampered WAAAAAY too much with it! Literally nearly everything is inaccurate, from Zeus's relation to Hades to not acual Titans maybe more representing the primordial beings! I don't know all of mythology, but I'd rather have God of War 2006-3 inaccuracies than fucking Hercules. They made a marketable version of him which they ironically referenced in the movie.

good people are good, simple as.

3:48 bruh did this guy just claim that feudilistic middle ages were rooted in capitalism...? Lol

A super subtle detail is that Ego’s revelation is actually foreshadowed in his introductory scene. When Ego is reading his review, he compares Gusteau to Chef Boyardee as an insult. What he doesn’t realize is that Chef Boyardee isn’t a household name because it’s the pinnacle of culinary excellence; it’s popular because it’s the childhood meal of many people across multiple generations. It’s the feelings of nostalgia that people feel when they eat it, a simple but very human pleasure that Ego had long overlooked. Ironic how he criticized the very concept that would sway him later.

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Before I watched Fiona and cake I, watched the entirety of adventure time and distant lands and, when finn killed that monster and there was like actual blood, like.. a lot of it I was genuinely surprised

Robots is a pretty good movie imo. Yeah it’s definitely not perfect, but it’s one of my most favorites from the studio. I love the inventiveness and charm of the movie. Dare I say it. It’s better than Ice Age.

Never before or since have I witnessed a scene that so effectively captures the feeling of nostalgia when reintroduced to a long forgotten memory, particularly in the context of food.

Here's my list. 13: Ice Age: Continental Drift (1/10) 12: Spies in Disguise (haven't watched) 11: Horton Hears a Who (3/10) 10: Rio 2 (3/10, 2/10 without the songs) 9: The Peanuts Movie (Haven't watched) 8: Ice Age: Collision Course (5/10) 7: Epic (5/10) 6: Rio (7/10, 5/10 without the songs) 5: Ice Age: The Meltdown (7/10) 4: Ice Age (7/10) 3: Ferdinand (8/10) 2: Ice Age: Dawn of the Dinosaurs (9/10) 1: Robots (10/10)