It´s great to upgrade the Chiron to Klipper. Also upgrading the bed is nice. However, I am not sure Switchwire is the best option to go. With a printer this size, it is already limited in accelleration due to the big bed. And you normaly set same accelleration in x and y. So if you convert to klipper, imho using a longer x-axis and a second extruder (or at least keep this option open) would be the right think to do. Of course using belts on z to get rid of z-wobble is an advantage of the switchwire. However, you can use belts without using coreXZ. There is an interesting conversion on an ender3 based on the voron 2.4 z-beltsystem. One downside of such a big printer of course is the time you need to print. You can use bigger nozzles of course. However, you see this in the results. This is one advantage you get if going Idex instead. You could use different nozzle sizes. While no slicer supports this at the moment, you could combine gcode slized with different settings depending on the layer. So for example first 4 layers with 0.4mm (and maybe multicolour with ercf) at 0.2mm layerhight. Rest with a 0.8mm high flow nozzle at 4mm layerhight. Just modify and join the gcodes accordingly. Duplex and mirror mode are not usable with an idex at this size, esp. with bedslingers, as ABL correct the z-height depending on the position of the head. As both heads always have the same z-height, but different positions, they would have contradicting needs for z-correction. So I strictly recommend not using Duplex or mirror mode. However modifying to (I)DEX without support for Duplex and Mirror makes a conversion more easy. You can adjust different z-offsets in software instead doing a manual calibration to get the nozzles to the same hight. If only one head is used and the other parks outside the bed area, both nozzles do not need to be same hight. You might even use totally different printheads. I am also not sure about the linear rails for the bed. Maxbe 12mm hardened steel rods and brass bushings might be a better solution. Cheap linear rails are a problem, as very precise ball bearings are expensive. Also you have to service them regulary (grease them), while self lubricating brass bushings are not only more quie, but also practicly service free.
@sn31t336 күн бұрын
You said you had layer shift in Y. Thats why i dont tune my Chiron anymore. I let it stock with klipper good is. In future i will build a Ratrig with the motor and stuff but this big slinger is not worth the time to upgrade. Except you got 2 and can build an new CoreXY with that. But then its a diffrent printer
@ratty2austin6 күн бұрын
@@sn31t33 yes, i agree. i had hopes that this upgrade would have helped with speed, but it cant overcome the mass of the bed, which is the limiting factor of any bed slinger... in the end, i will just have to suffer with slow speeds, but it will be very tune -able with klipper.
@giorgio91gtacar10 күн бұрын
what kay-bak did you use? I'm converting a CR-10 to SW, I got one as per the guide for SW but it's short (13oz)
@watpub490623 күн бұрын
Hi, great video that's inspired me to build some of these models. Would you please do a video showing how the lights are created using the Arduino Nano and perhaps also the wiring and code to hook into the two channels. Thanks.
@JonathanCohn420 күн бұрын
+1 to this. Those lights, especially the headlights look hyper realistic. Curious how you’re building them.
@claxdog25 күн бұрын
Wouldn't happen to have the link where you found the skirts that fit?
@MrNathanvleckie26 күн бұрын
Can you give me an estimate for the cost to do this? I am using 1 of my 2 chirons and have other printers. Your video makes me want to possibly tinker with my chiron im not using. Now that you can buy a sovol s08 for around $600-800 i need to compare prices.
@ripmax3332 ай бұрын
Which one you think is best as a crawler. I Printed both Landy (2 door ) version and the Toyota but the Pickup version, both feel really top heavy. Personally I prefer more the Toyota but IMO if you install shocks greater than 80mm does look right and its easy to tumble.
@ratty2austin2 ай бұрын
They are all a bit heavy/delicate to be a real "crawler" but, the longer wheelbase models (4 door landy, long van) would be a little more stable for crawling- I've had the short wheelbase models flip over end while climbing a steep grade. I've also considered re-printing the roof rack parts with TPU, (98A) because it would be a lot more resistant to damage if they tipped over... Also, adding weights to the wheels/floorpan can help with stability. All of my models have 90mm or larger shocks, The shorter ones are less common for me.
@radomilkvetny2 ай бұрын
Hello, great work. Please what tyres/insets you used? It seems to handle the weight of the model very well.
@ratty2austin2 ай бұрын
The tires are "HobbyPark Rubber 98mm 1.9" from amazon, which are pretty soft, and the foams that are included are too soft too. I used very dense packaging foam that I cut out and installed to make them hold the weight of the van. I think the best option would be to get the TPU inserts that are adjustable stiffness (depending on perimeters, infill and shore hardness) but those need to be designed and sized precisely to fit each tire brand.
@spyrit352 ай бұрын
Nice upgrade series...that layer shift ... I know that you've done so much already but, I'm pretty convinced that Anycubic realized this issue, hence why they used the dual shaft stepper motor with 2 belts on the Kobra max for the Y Axis afterwards... maybe you could get your hands on 1 of those stepper motors (or the one for the Creality CR M4), 2 GT2 10mm pulleys, a few meters of 9mm belt and 2 idler wheels... I have the Kobra Max and I plan to do Y rails soon... Im not a Voron guy so I plan on just using my Creality sonic pad for the klipper and moonraker and camera input... i may switch the X axis for a stock extrusion for linear rails too... but I don't want the work of maintaining lots of belts and pulleys. Nice results tho.
@robsonmenezes10063 ай бұрын
Muito bom o vídeo amigo está bem realista,👍👍👍👍👍😍🤩
@LoganJohnsonWA3 ай бұрын
Great video cousin!
@zingerdwarf21113 ай бұрын
Austin buddy, nice printing and detail. i have been printing for about 8 months love it so much i bought another printer. I feel cabable enough to try something like this. You should see this guy! www.youtube.com/@greenboy3d
@jonaslundborg3 ай бұрын
This was really informative and eye opening. Thanks for sharing 🔥 What length shocks do you have on the Trophy Landy and the beige Landy? Is it the +10 or the +20 axel you have mounted?
@meltdown783 ай бұрын
Really nice shots! What cam are you using? And holy moly, those geared gearboxes are loud! One of the reasons I have converted all of those to belted ones on my cars :) - that and I got bored of replacing broken gears...
@ratty2austin3 ай бұрын
Thanks! my 2 cameras I am using for this one- a Canon 6D, with the 28-135mm kit lens, and my phone- a Google Pixel 6a. the 6D is manual focus only during video, which is why some of the shots get blurry when the car comes closer... And yeah, those gears are loud! especially the camel trophy landy- it was my first print, and I remember my printer was not calibrated at all and things did not fit together well and of course that made the gear mesh even worse- but I went with it anyway. The 4x4 van was made much later with a well calibrated Prusa, and it was a bit smoother, although still loud. I still have not had any trouble with the gear drives- but I have had issues with my belt drives! (one of the pulleys was rubbing on the casing and melted...)
@meltdown783 ай бұрын
@@ratty2austin Using the DSLR makes sense - I have an old EOS650D with the 18-135mm which I don't use often - maybe I'll try that one for video too. Regarding gears: yeah, I let my kids drive - and they tend to be not as gentle 🙄 Currently the Jeep needs some repairs... The belt drives are more reliable but need to be assembled with care to prevent rubbing...
@matt7595374 ай бұрын
hey austin! im very interested in doing a similar build. im wanting to do the x and y as linear rails and add the stealthburner mod / have it run on klipper. my question is can this be done on the stock board? ive done a klipper build before so overall i can dive further into it. but im just wondering if the stock board is capable of using a stealthburner/klipper setup and still be able to heat the bed
@ratty2austin4 ай бұрын
I believe the stock board can run klipper, but I have not tested that, as I wanted a better board with my build...
@orion97794 ай бұрын
P R O M O S M
@LoganJohnsonWA4 ай бұрын
Send it!
@LoganJohnsonWA4 ай бұрын
Looks like a good time!
@lancephelps48714 ай бұрын
Very nice build how long did it take to print? Also is this PLA or PETG? Thanks. I am new to this. If you have any other videos or how to's please let me know.
@ratty2austin4 ай бұрын
This one is printed in IIIDmax PLA+, I think it was a week or 2 for printing time? I will be making some more videos about these builds, soon.
@Evilslayer735 ай бұрын
Beautifull retro model i love it :)
@BDudasProductions5 ай бұрын
😮 very cool!
@charpssss5 ай бұрын
3D printing and cars, next we’ll find out you’re also a drummer 😅
@ytwhite59305 ай бұрын
There used to be a club up here in Washington called "Hatch Patrol". I haven't seen or heard anything about them in quite awhile...I wonder if they're still at it. They were pretty crazy!
@ratty2austin5 ай бұрын
Oh yes, I was part of the Hatch Patrol! it kind of fizzled out, as not many of us have hatchbacks anymore, or even off-road subarus for that matter. I think the NW Washington offroad group is still going, in the Skagit valley area
@TheButchersbLock5 ай бұрын
I have been looking to do this Switchwire mod on my Tevo tarantula pro for a while but had the same problem with the frame sections being different sizes. This x and z drive mounts will work perfectly. Great video mate and a very nice Switchwire mod 👍🇦🇺😊
@Chuck-tl6no5 ай бұрын
Van is awesome
@jjmaxjjmax2895 ай бұрын
ciao e complimenti x il lavoro, sarebbe fantastico un video dettagliato su come installare klipper grazie
@callecallewitz21625 ай бұрын
Did i miss the second part? Love ur project! ✌🏼
@ratty2austin5 ай бұрын
This is the second part... Sorry I did not record any of the actual wiring or programming of the build, my current setup at home makes it rather difficult, as I do not (yet) have a dedicated studio/workshop.. Plus, I am still trying to get used to documenting things with video- for many years I mainly did photography, so planning out the audio and background noises were never really things I had to worry about.
@TinylandsRC5 ай бұрын
Nice drfiting with the kei😊😊
@kloboucek5 ай бұрын
Nice conversion, I'm working on one as well for my bedslinger machine... just curious - that rattling noise during XZ movements - did you bother finding what's causing it?
@ratty2austin5 ай бұрын
Ahh yes, I probably should have added a subtitle that mentioned what that noise was- I figured out that it was the cardboard spool, "rolling" on the PLA spool holder, when the X rail was going downward (-Z)... I want to find a better spool holder, maybe one with bearings, or maybe do the reverse bowden setup and have a spool roller down low, off the machine entirely.
@Gfunkbus765 ай бұрын
@@ratty2austinI went reverse Bowden for mine. Roll sits beside printer... One less mass vibrating around lol
@originalrcfun73685 ай бұрын
Before social media ruined the world. Love the genuine camera work. Very glad it is unedited. Editing old videos is like putting filters on selfie posts :)
@marcusbuschbeck11215 ай бұрын
Yes the weight (about 4kg) of the Y Bed ist the only real thing that limit this Monster. I peel off the Glas Ultrabase and replaced the Sliders wiith own designed and printed Parts made with PETG. Now its less than 2kg and i noticed a smoother movement with less vibrations. It's not perfect yet because of the thin alu-heatbed there is a strong bending when it is heated up. Thinking about a rigid but lighweight solution so far..
@sn31t336 күн бұрын
You got some files? Thats the only upgrade thats sounds worthy. The bed is and will be the limiting factor so what the OP did is basically useless without a fast bed
@marcusbuschbeck11216 күн бұрын
@@sn31t33 yes of course, i will upload the Files tomorrow on printables! Nowadays i have taped the original Ultrabase on the Heatplate.. sadly. But without it, the bend is too mutch until 80°C. But the PETG Carriage is working good so far.
@RicondaRacing5 ай бұрын
That Brat ripping around is pretty awesome
@uwebultmann44695 ай бұрын
Hello, nice build. It is very good looking. Wich ESP do you use ? Greatings from Germany. UB
@ratty2austin5 ай бұрын
On this model I am using the Traxxas XL5 ESC, (it was a spare from another car) But in my other 3Dsets vehicles I use the Hobbywing Quicrun 1080 Brushed or the Hobbywing Quicrun 16BL30 for my brushless models
@uwebultmann44695 ай бұрын
@@ratty2austin Hello, and thanks for the Information. In other Car I use bigger, larger ESPs. This is my first try with 3Dsets. 😀
@x_jaydn5 ай бұрын
Are you using the stock XZ tensioners or custom ones? To my knowledge, after tensioning, the fastening bolts don't have anywhere for the T nuts to grab-onto since the Chiron has 2040 extrusions instead of 4040 extrusions for the base.
@ratty2austin5 ай бұрын
The files for the XZ tensioners/motor mounts, are modified so that they are +5mm thick because it's 2020 and not 3030 extrusion (for the upright Z tower) to keep the belt system aligned. As far as where the T nuts go, I'm not sure if that part was modified in the files I downloaded or not, but it does work fine with the 2040 Chiron's extrusions.
@RobAllenTurbone5 ай бұрын
Great footage Austin!
@gojogingo5 ай бұрын
The Great Challenge! I am impressed.
@gojogingo5 ай бұрын
Thank you for making this available to the public. These trivial recorded images will become valuable cultural materials through the ages! It will be a few decades before mankind will know about it I'm sure our grandchildren will be very pleased.
@BDudasProductions5 ай бұрын
Great footage Austin, brings back memories from WCSS7. A lot of clean looking cars making a great show!
@michaelrogocz11605 ай бұрын
Thank you for your videos. I bought two CR10 Max motors for the y axis. Nick parsons has a STL file on printables for the second Y Axis motor mount for his Kobra Max. I think it’s usable.
@radusirbu42145 ай бұрын
Thank you so much for posting this. I am in the process of building my own Chiron Switchwire and your videos are very helpful.
@charpssss5 ай бұрын
Yesss!!! This is super cool. Clean build man! I’m running dual Y motors on my Chiron, in series off the same motor driver right now. Try this to potentially eliminate the Y layer shifting. I want to follow in your footsteps and convert my machine too, this is bad ass!
@ratty2austin5 ай бұрын
Thanks! Are your motors mounted along the center with the one belt? (like, second motor up front using same belt?) or did you put them side by side and add another belt? I have plenty of stepper driver slots on the Octopus board, I could add another to spread the load for another motor...
@charpssss5 ай бұрын
@@ratty2austin two motor driving one belt! Printed a mount that clamps around the frame across from the original y motor!
@Gfunkbus765 ай бұрын
I'm thinking of doing that too, just for better overall performance.... Maybe lol
@joeanderson26425 ай бұрын
I think the octopus is overkill for a switch wire, you could use an skr mini e3 v3 for this build because you don’t really need that many stepper motor drivers.
@ratty2austin5 ай бұрын
Yes, I realized that after I bought it and was beginning my build, but it was mentioned in the build guide I was following, plus it was on sale when I bought it. And- if this project doesn't work out, I can always use it again in a V2.4 build or something along those lines :)
@jannejcperme3238Ай бұрын
True but if you wanna use deployable clicky, you should go for a 5 driver setup or maybe if he wants dual color also... so he would not need to upgrade he will just add a driver and cfg tuning...
@charpssss5 ай бұрын
That’s sick! Gonna be able to make so many with the Chiron switchwire
@conqueeftadors5 ай бұрын
I love that van! So cool.
@jamieg31656 ай бұрын
thanks for the video mate. If you get around designing the skirts ans covers for the electronics please post it and use the remix so we can make the Voron model. JamieG
@RobCampman6 ай бұрын
Very nice to see this build process. i'm having a chiron laying around in pieces and like to do this conversion. did you already have it printing ?
@ratty2austin6 ай бұрын
as of the posting of this video, it was still a work in progress- I just finished the electronics and some basic setup with the firmware this last week. It does print now and I will be making a video about that part soon!
@CineZoneYT7 ай бұрын
How did you get the lights?
@ratty2austin6 ай бұрын
I added them myself, using basic LEDs (3mm and 5mm for all but the headlights, 3W high power LED chips with intergrated aluminum plate for the headlights) I soldered wires to them, added small DIY circuit boards at each end with resistors for each LED, and then connected all of them to a central Arduino Nano MCU, which uses the CH1 and CH2 signal to determine if turn signals, brake or reverse lights are needed.
@LewisDavidson7 ай бұрын
Excellent work! Did u paint it, or was it printed in color?