I got the newer version (of course by now I would imagine this is an ancient laptop being 1 year old) but I got it around $1500. Would that be a good price for a laptop this caliber in today’s standards?
@Alexander_Sannikov22 сағат бұрын
i wish your reviews contained more detailed information on the cooling capacity. namely, what's the maximum sustained wattage that the cooling system is capable of dissipating long term. also information on bios is very important for gaming laptops, especially if you're planning to use linux: ideally you want to set up all overclocking/undervolting in the bios without messing with any of the windows bloatware that the laptop ships with. i also want to see more emphasis put into repairability analysis: how hard is the laptop to take apart? how hard is it to repaste it? how robust are the I/O ports that are usually the first to break (power and audio jacks)? not just this model, I wish every laptop review had more in-depth information like this.
@Alexander_SannikovКүн бұрын
Why do they make workstation laptops without an air intake on the top panel? In my opinion, it's a must have.
@cleyt973Күн бұрын
And I just added foam to my crappy deepcool x6 at 1000rpm😅😅. From 100 to 85° cpu /70 gpuno throttling, full 4.5ghz all the way 🤑🤑🤑. But I will try this Llano soon 😊. Msi pulse 15 : i7 13620h 32 gig/4070. Sadly the cpu fan is smaller than the gpu side 😢.
@OWNORDISOWNКүн бұрын
That is awesome 👍
@MikeyLSКүн бұрын
I think my laptop have a problem, my screen freeze for a second or two after i open a game and there is a sound like of disconnect usb, can someone help?
@myth712 күн бұрын
The lid should be aluminum too. On the 2023 which I have it is.
@largamau2 күн бұрын
from 99c to 76c at 1200 RPM. I love it I have the Acer Predator 16 i9 13900hx and RTX 4070
@enyejiapono24133 күн бұрын
Good value for the money. I love it💪💪
@OWNORDISOWN3 күн бұрын
Thanks Gerald, I agree!
@phoenixphonkhouse4514 күн бұрын
I’m using the 2021 3050ti model but when I go into bios I don’t have an option to switch the hdmi output
@OWNORDISOWN3 күн бұрын
I'm sure they have released a new Bios since I did my video...
@phoenixphonkhouse4513 күн бұрын
@@OWNORDISOWN I’ve tried to find a new bios version for my model but couldn’t find anything. I’ll keep looking
@HICHOSOLO4 күн бұрын
icrease the clock speed as well for cpu
@Alexander_Sannikov4 күн бұрын
here's an update for m18 r2: - they removed the max power options from both bios and the AWCC - undervolting options are severely nuked (can't put more than 15mV which makes it pretty much useless) - however, the TCC(thermal offset) works really well. I just put it to 15C in AWCC and it keeps the CPU temp at 100-15=85C very reliably - even better, setting the TCC and the fan profile under windows seems to carry over to linux! - AWCC seems to override bios settings overall my experience gaming on m18 r2 is so far very positive: all peripherals worked right off the bat (i'm on NixOS(don't use it if you're a beginner, use linux mint or something like that)), no drivers needed, all steam games work decently well.
@Alexander_Sannikov4 күн бұрын
this video really needs an update for m18 v2 version, as its bios exposes fewer parameters to play with. i'm also interested to see which OS options are available under linux and also which options i can set under windows and carry over into linux.
@OWNORDISOWN4 күн бұрын
I can see about getting a new machine later this year.
@JasonAtkin-tk2ze5 күн бұрын
Thank you so much for the review of the titan. I was going to buy this laptop as so many videos have hyped it up to be this beast. But the Asus seems to be the more sensible option. Your video highlights things that others don't. Much appreciated I will now sub you. Max respect
@OWNORDISOWN5 күн бұрын
Glad I was able to help and thanks so much for the sub 😊👍
@OWNORDISOWN5 күн бұрын
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@BinhNguyen-cc9hs5 күн бұрын
The screen had problems after 6 months of use, encountered by many users
@OWNORDISOWN5 күн бұрын
That sucks!
@astrokinng5 күн бұрын
Is this better or rog strix scar 16
@OWNORDISOWN5 күн бұрын
Yes, I would say so
@siyzerix6 күн бұрын
Good video. That handheld gaming device seems far more reasonably priced than the likes of PC handhelds. And most phones. Though, I do wonder if you can get like an older flagship phone or gaming phone for ~$150. That would be a better option since it would do what the handheld can but also be a phone. Do you think you can review some gaming vertical mice? They, as I heard, are more comfortable to hold and use. Would love to hear your thoughts on them because I was looking towards a wireless vertical mouse from kensington.
@OWNORDISOWN6 күн бұрын
Yeah, phones are the jack of all trades. I would have to use one of those controllers that the phone attaches too. Send me a link to the mouse you are wanting to test. Perhaps I can buy it and mail it to you afterwards if it isn't too expensive
@siyzerix6 күн бұрын
@@OWNORDISOWN The mouse is the Kensington Ergonomic Vertical Wireless Mouse (K75575WW). I don't know if YT will let me post links here.
@OWNORDISOWN6 күн бұрын
@@siyzerix Thanks Eric. I have made a note of it
@siyzerix6 күн бұрын
@@OWNORDISOWN appreciate it. But there'sno need to mail it to me if you don't like it. Its too far away and customs will jack up the price too much
@OWNORDISOWN6 күн бұрын
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@SteVoUniT9146 күн бұрын
OwnorDisown with the cracked deals 😎
@ACE112ACE1126 күн бұрын
the mouse is super heavy at 103 grams. a lot of wireless mice are sub 60 grams
@OWNORDISOWN6 күн бұрын
Doesn't feel heavy to me and I have about 6 mice.
@Pepega906 күн бұрын
Yeah but you also have mice like Logitech G502 X LIGHTSPEED with is over 100g and is wireless. I moved to it from G Pro Wireless and this extra weight don't bother me at all.
@ACE112ACE1126 күн бұрын
The hand held has hella emulated games damn. not sure how that's legal but neat
@OWNORDISOWN6 күн бұрын
I really do like the handheld. Really good for the price.
@br4kecheckd6 күн бұрын
Chinese don't have a word copyright in their language. They also find the word lawsuit laugh inducing
@TheSonnyhorse6 күн бұрын
Thanks for the updates.
@OWNORDISOWN6 күн бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@user-ns7wn7rp7h6 күн бұрын
thanks a lot for your responses 🙏 , still I have one more question , when im putting balanced mode wich is the recommended plan from win , it gaves me the best results, less temp ans less noise and more fps unlike the balance +ai mode or performance mode that's giving me 12c more on temp , fps slightly better but maybe 10-15 more fps only and the fan are noise , how it can be ?
@OWNORDISOWN6 күн бұрын
Are you talking about the balanced mode within windows itself or the balanced mode in the advantage software? I think in my testing I switched the windows power profile to high performance but I don't think it makes a whole lot of difference. Certainly the AI in their software ups the CPU power in game which results in a higher temperature and depending on how your cooling is it may throttle if it goes above 95 degrees. Mine cooled quite well, although there were instances where I saw the CPU go above 95. Also, it is very game dependant so you may see one result in one game and you may get something different in another. I tested the AI in 4 games if I recall and all 4 were faster (and hotter) than standard balanced mode.
@Selimify6 күн бұрын
0:23 They do have better choices for their customers in women tights for sure 🤣🤣🤣💀
@OWNORDISOWN6 күн бұрын
LOL, I was going to click on that and zoom in :)
@kamm30216 күн бұрын
Good deals
@OWNORDISOWN6 күн бұрын
Thanks, I thought so :)
@AA-yk3bj6 күн бұрын
1st commet
@iraklimgeladze52236 күн бұрын
you should try Eye traking in racing
@OWNORDISOWN6 күн бұрын
Yes, or a flight simulator.
@iraklimgeladze52236 күн бұрын
It's look like GPU was on when you tested battery life.
@OWNORDISOWN6 күн бұрын
If I had more time I would have tested it in iGPU mode too. Perhaps the auto thing wasn't working too well.
@iraklimgeladze52236 күн бұрын
@@OWNORDISOWN I have gaming laptop and i encounter similar problem. Some app even igpu can handle with easy, it still uses dGPU. Mine at list have light indecator, beside lenovo has light indicator when gpu is used, i think
@OWNORDISOWN6 күн бұрын
@@iraklimgeladze5223they just have the light on the power button showing the power mode you are in...
@crimsonflash-eo2xs6 күн бұрын
Which is better, I can’t decide. Specs i9 13/14 gen Rtx 4070 Asus rog strix G18(2024) or Acer predator Helios 18
@Crosyph7 күн бұрын
KZfaq suddenly suggested this video to me, and I really enjoyed it. I miss the time when this laptop came out; it gave me a nostalgic feeling. Thanks, Stephen!
@speedhd40907 күн бұрын
hi, ive done the same exact steps and have seen no improvement in temperatures, i used the same thermal paste. cpu reaches 100c and gpu throttles at 86c. does anyone know what could be the issue, fans and debris are all clear. the only thing i haven't changed it the thermal pads but was wandering if ive missed anything before i replace them
@ninjatogo7 күн бұрын
Finally someone does a game performance analysis using this cooler. Pretty much every other review just looks at the temperature difference.
@yogeshsoni4217 күн бұрын
i just bought a x17 R2 refurbished laptop after using it i found overheating issue (100C Alwas ) after brief recerch i found 2 solution that help me a lot 40c on idle and 70c Max 1 options - Disable turbo max in bios 2 options - dont install AWCC thats it
@crazylfo18 күн бұрын
I like how Legion always keep their laptop design slim and minimalist. This is what MSI laptop should learn....
@OWNORDISOWN8 күн бұрын
Yes indeed. Eluktronucs even better still.
@evilhilda8 күн бұрын
i saw the 4090 variant at 2750 multiple times on lenovo website
@mrrasron18 күн бұрын
Man that price is in different regions. I paid 2175, 2376 after tax for this exact model two weeks ago. I literally put it side to side with a 2024 rog strix scar 16 and there was a slight difference but the scar will blind you. The screen is actually good and the pro 7i performance was better than the scar for less money.
@OWNORDISOWN8 күн бұрын
That's a huge price difference! Was that direct with Lenovo?
@mrrasron18 күн бұрын
@@OWNORDISOWN Bestbuy
@user-ns7wn7rp7h8 күн бұрын
by the way , the heat air is going out from the sides ?
@OWNORDISOWN8 күн бұрын
Yes
@AUTOSARTID8 күн бұрын
watching this video with my 2020 legion 5 gtx 1660 with Ryzen 7 4800H
@siyzerix8 күн бұрын
I mean the 4800h was the last ryzen 7 cpu that could be undervolted. And the 1660ti can still do 1080p at reasonable settings,
@OWNORDISOWN8 күн бұрын
Great! Just shows you don't need to keep buying a new laptop every couple of years 👍
@siyzerix8 күн бұрын
@@OWNORDISOWN Well according to louis rossmann, if you put a desktop gpu in a laptop, it will die in 2 years. Since his legion has a desktop 1660ti, it should've died 2 years ago and is a meme on account of being a gaming laptop. Looks like he defeated the laws of physics stephen.
@siyzerix8 күн бұрын
Great review stephen. Sad to see the vapor chamber go wasted on the pathetic rtx ''4080''. This laptop can easily handle a 230w 4080 desktop and retain 95% of its performance. The acer helios predator went down to $1600 recently packing a 4080 and i9 13900hx. You can do the smokeless bios method to unlock undervolting (screw acer for blocking that). Its made of metal too. I can't justify spending 2x more for just a better cpu mainly. Lenovo should offer a ryzen hs version. I'd imagine it would last 9 to 10hr if they optimize it. Can you talk about the downgrades and baffeling decisions lenovo has been doing? Worse build on some models, worse designs on others, worse ports/selection, etc.?
@OWNORDISOWN8 күн бұрын
Thanks Eric! Certainly I think they need to freshen up their Legion laptops. They have kept them the same for years. I have two more Lenovo laptops to review.
@siyzerix8 күн бұрын
@@OWNORDISOWN I don't mind the design of some of the older legions. But the problem is the price. If these designs stay the same, then surely the production cost would lower over the years. If that happens then lenovo can constantly reduce the price or keep the price the same which will greatly help offset nvidia's higher gpu prices. They could start offering more OLED options, etc. Because if you see the nitro's, they've stepped up massively. To the point of rivaling some of the older legions in most aspects including build.
@artbynaition12789 күн бұрын
Still got my legion i bought from yooouuu hella power house
@OWNORDISOWN9 күн бұрын
Awesome 👍
@AA-yk3bj9 күн бұрын
The breakthrough new generation of CPU is coming soon, so it seems it is not a good deal to buy laptop at this time. Do you agree?
@OWNORDISOWN9 күн бұрын
Personally I think it makes sense to buy the last Gen for a $1000 less. Perhaps the Rtx 5000 models that will be released early 2025 will be up to 40% better? What price will they be? It seems to me that pricing is getting out of hand. The 14900HX doesn't bring much extra to the table that's for sure.
@aa-xn5hc9 күн бұрын
thanks!
@2022spacekw9 күн бұрын
any liquid metal problem after long term usage? someone says they will malposition after some time, leakage to the motherboard
@OWNORDISOWN9 күн бұрын
I've heard that before with Asus laptops but I thought they put a better barrier down now. I've not done a tear down to see.
@2022spacekw9 күн бұрын
@@OWNORDISOWN thanks!
@zeronine-eightyfour10 күн бұрын
I do not consider this an all aluminum build. It's just thin sheets of aluminum folded around a plastic chassis as can be seen in the teardown. Just a very cheaply made laptop for the money. Especially considering the Zephyrus and Blade series.
@OWNORDISOWN10 күн бұрын
Yeah, it's not like a Razer that's for sure
@ManleyReviews10 күн бұрын
I have the gen 8 and it's still insane after a better LM repaste. probably the best high performer on the market. with some tuning was able to get 32000 cinebench out of the 13900k
@OWNORDISOWN10 күн бұрын
That is awesome 👍
@InnocentiusLacrimosa9 күн бұрын
That is pretty awesome. With laptops like that I could perhaps get rid of my desktop totally. My 5950X is at around 30k in CB23 so having a laptop topping that :-D Nice stuff.
@ManleyReviews6 күн бұрын
@@InnocentiusLacrimosa i have a 12900k / 4080 desktop that had a drive failure right before a trip, so i worked on the laptop. It's been 6 months since the desktop has been booted. Just never missed it and the laptop did everything i needed the desktop to do so not sure if I'll sell it after a drive swap or upgrade it. Never thought I'd be typing these words
@InnocentiusLacrimosa6 күн бұрын
@@ManleyReviews thank you for that perspective. I am now truly starting to wonder if I could be in that same situation at some point soon (perhaps already on the next upgrade cycle). Laptop cpus are finally getting powerful enough to handle my work tasks also. Laptop GPUs are also almost there (if Nvidia would not cheap on that). Anyhow, you provided some food for thought to me.
@kamm302110 күн бұрын
Better to wait for RTX 5000 series
@HaloblackopsTenken10 күн бұрын
Slightly over cocked 😂 i had to replay that hahaha. Also thanks for showing Ocerwatch and Halo <3
@OWNORDISOWN10 күн бұрын
Lol, yeah I was pissing myself laughing. You are welcome! Thanks for watching mate 👍
@anthonym_886310 күн бұрын
Great video. I always try to catch your reviews and give you a like when I can. You definitely deserve more subs and likes. That said, this Lenovo definitely seems overpriced. I just picked up a Gen 8 Pro 5 with the Ryzen 7945HX and 4070 for a little over $1500 after tax. It's gonna be a CPU beast for me, which is my main priority, and any gaming on the side will be a bonus. It's a major upgrade from my Legion 5 with the Ryzen 4800H and 1660Ti.
@OWNORDISOWN10 күн бұрын
Thanks, really appreciate the support! Yeah, like I said in the summary I think its too expensive. Should be closer to $2400. They need to trim some stuff like Tobii. You have a bargain right there! Awesome CPU!
@enyejiapono241310 күн бұрын
$535 extra for a 4090 is crazy when its only 9% faster. 4080 is good but also quite expensive
@OWNORDISOWN10 күн бұрын
Oh yeah, it is nuts. Complete waste of money. Overclock the 4080 by 5% for free.
@InnocentiusLacrimosa9 күн бұрын
You'd buy that mainly if you need the extra VRAM for some non-gaming usecase. Otherwise its wasted. It is a real shame that Nvidia put desktop 4080 chips into laptops and renamed them 4090s. A real 4090 chip (even when power constrained) would have been great on laptops.
@OWNORDISOWN9 күн бұрын
@@InnocentiusLacrimosatotally agree. I will be doing a video showing exactly that.
@siyzerix8 күн бұрын
@@InnocentiusLacrimosa The desktop 4080 at 220w performs 95% the same as it does at 320w. Turing and pascal both crammed 200w gpu's in laptops. Are oem's telling us they can't cool an additional 20w 7 years later? Or is nvidia telling us their chips are so low quality they have to reduce tdp's? And a 4090 desktop at 250 to 270w would be ~10% slower than undervolted/stock 4090. People already made their current 4090m's in asus scar 17's use 250w without issue. Nvidia is artificially gimping gpu's
@4evahodlingdoge22613 сағат бұрын
@@siyzerix Maybe we will see a big jump in wattage and performance next year for laptops, several oems showed that they can keep their laptops cool this generation so let's see what happens next year.
@rossdev10 күн бұрын
Great review as always thanks. I have the Gen 8 Legion 7i with 4080, I'm definitely passing on Gen 9 as going from 13900HX to 14900HX makes no sense. Last week, your exact model was on sale on the official Lenovo site in my country for only €2300 - an absolute steal! Needless to say it sold out in a couple of hours.
@OWNORDISOWN10 күн бұрын
Thanks mate, glad you enjoyed it. I agree, you are set for a few years with your machine. I have no plans to upgrade my laptop with the same specs. What a bargain!
@AleksandarT1010 күн бұрын
Just get Gen 8 for 2k$
@OWNORDISOWN10 күн бұрын
Yep, I do the same with phones. By a previous gen and save $$$