I will never get rid of my Kirmus restoration system I’ve had a pleasure of speaking with Kirmus on the phone . I had an issue and he called my cell who does that these days ! Thank you Mr Charles Kirmuss.
@kirmussaudio757813 күн бұрын
@jerryandlisa27 Thank you for your kind words. I enjoy what I do and the people that I meet. At trade shows and record fairs, I have the privilege in touching records that mean something to both audiophiles and record lovers alike. The facial expressions I see while someone is listening to a restored record is a treasured moment for me. Let's keep those records spinning!
@MrNicks-gn8jc7 күн бұрын
Now, if you REALLY want to have your head spinning; go 10-15 cycles of restoration on a new, AUDIOPHILE pressing and what you think a good sounding record sounds like will be RE-INVENTED !!
@kirmussaudio75786 күн бұрын
@MrNicks-gn8jc We at the show had several folks wanting their personal records restored. So I would have added another two cycles. Indeed we did actually do two more at the end of the event and truly saw what was already agreed as a great sounding record was even more immersive. Lots of fun. I really enjoy what I do and meet music lovers of all gendres.
@MrNicks-gn8jc6 күн бұрын
@@kirmussaudio7578 My record is 18 cycles for a 1970s pressing on Decca "Square box" of Benjamin Britten's Cello Suites 1 and 2.....and it is argueably the best sounding LP I currently have.....so now, as of current, I am doing some of my lp's with 7-11 cycles and the results are UNBELIEVEABLE !!
@RescuedRhythms4 ай бұрын
Is there a way we can hear the difference of vinyl playback through an audio sample for reference, by comparison between a vacuum cleaner and the Kirmuss?
@kirmussaudio75784 ай бұрын
Go to our KZfaq channel. We have two records that were brought in by music lovers for restoration. Before and after testing done with a spectrum analyzer. Testing unscripted.
@kirmussaudio75784 ай бұрын
Yes. On our KZfaq we restored a record as noted previously cleaned by a vacuum system
@fashionofthechrist4 ай бұрын
Sometimes when I watch videos like this as an audiophile, I start to think we’re all sociopaths (except our sociopathy doesn’t hurt anybody) 😅
@user-rn9mt1gx7l6 ай бұрын
What is the surfactant name thanks
@kirmussaudio75786 ай бұрын
Used as an ionizing agent, not a cleaning agent. Propanediol 1-2-178
@user-rn9mt1gx7l6 ай бұрын
@kirmussaudio7578 great thanks!
@kirmussaudio75786 ай бұрын
@@user-rn9mt1gx7l 👍
@danijelsan816 ай бұрын
We need more of these types of examples. Before and after is a very appropriate way to demonstrate your restoration process
@kirmussaudio75786 ай бұрын
We have more audio clips and images of before and after restoration, where in the latter, we measure the thickness of the release agent and the film removed. Thus using a Keyence VHX-7000 2D 3D imager. Thanks for the time to express what everyone should be doing to confirm what their processes do. False sense of a working process is where most if not all processes out there leave a film, and thus at times hides the fused dust in the release agent where a film left over by a cleaning process inadvertently covers a fused dust particle originally fysed into the cooling relesse agent at the pressing plant. . ...After several plays the stylus removes this film. And the pop returns!.
@kirmussaudio75787 ай бұрын
Proof is in the pudding: LATEST NEWS on our KZfaq channel: 1. Restoration of a Frank Sinatra Record. Mexico City Nov 2023 KirmussAudio event. Before restoration: Lots of noise. Crackles abound. Sound Muddled. The record was processed before in a 120 KHz ultrasonic. Processed 5 times. Before in a vacuum based cleaning system, so I was told. Video Before Kirmuss Processing: kzfaq.info/love/q6s2TT2s7SgZu_7F1D37SQ Video After Kirmuss Restoration: Increase in signal and frequency response, pops gone. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/lbiKaJN-rrbYhnU.html 2. From our record restoration event in Mexico City in front of Billboard Magazine and with an invitation only meeting of Discos two weeks ago held at the Margules factory, very nice of him, a record that was brought in that was processed prior with a vacuum cleaning system saw these results: Before Kirmuss; kzfaq.info-L2gIqQ3nok After Kirmuss: kzfaq.info_6_fhGWMBjM
@helthuismartin7 ай бұрын
Now i underdstand how Michel gets the money to buy a 170 thousend Dollar turntable
@kirmussaudio75787 ай бұрын
1. Restoration of a Frank Sinatra Record. Mexico City Nov 2023 KirmussAudio event. Before restoration: Lots of noise. Crackles abound. Sound Muddled. The record was processed before in a 120 KHz ultrasonic. Processed 5 times. Before in a vacuum based cleaning system, so I was told. Video Before Kirmuss Processing: kzfaq.info/love/q6s2TT2s7SgZu_7F1D37SQ Video After Kirmuss Restoration: Increase in signal and frequency response, pops gone. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/lbiKaJN-rrbYhnU.html 2. From our record restoration event in Mexico City in front of Billboard Magazine and with an invitation only meeting of Discos two weeks ago held at the Margules factory, very nice of him, a record that was brought in that was processed prior with a vacuum cleaning system saw these results: Before Kirmuss; kzfaq.info-L2gIqQ3nok After Kirmuss: kzfaq.info_6_fhGWMBjM
@biketech607 ай бұрын
He's wrong about the only cause for a track that's not shiny . Records that have a heavily modulated track (loud music) are always less shiny than quiet tracks , and this is especially true with classical music which usually have greater dynamic range than popular music .I'm as old as him , played lots of records .
@kirmussaudio75787 ай бұрын
Not just one reason. But when I speak to owners of records that bring them to us for restoration, on asking original owners of the processes used prior and seeing the grey on one track, using Tergitol cleaning base and confirming the repeated play of one song repeatedly confirms on of our observations when compared to the same music styles
@paulhallford19047 ай бұрын
Happy new year everyone 🎉🎉🎉🎉
@kirmussaudio75787 ай бұрын
Peace, love, happiness, prosperity and health to all for 2024! Keep those records spinning! Music unites the world.
@jeffreygorey55408 ай бұрын
Or you could just buy cd's and not have to worry about all this nonsense
@kirmussaudio75788 ай бұрын
Records are known to have better frequency response and dynamic range than a CD .. irrespective we all love music in any format!
@jerryandlisa278 ай бұрын
What other surfactant do you recommend with your machine ?
@kirmussaudio75788 ай бұрын
We do not use a surfactant per say. It is an ionizing agent with our colorant added that changes the charge of the record to be opposite to that of water that attracts the effects of cavitation. It is not a cleaning solution. It is made for us to our specifications. No other solution can be used to achieve this that is available in the market.
@kirmussaudio75788 ай бұрын
This recording shows the results AFTER the Kirmuss Record Restoration process. The crackles are gone and notice the increase in signal from the cartridge heard and increase in frequency response. Once processed, the record does not need to undergo the record ionization and restoration process. Only a 2 minute cycle when the record owner deems it necessary to remove fingerprints as we always leave them no matter how careful we are. The emotion of the artist revealed! The needle rides the detail of the stamper!
@kirmussaudio75788 ай бұрын
This video was made at the KirmussAudio event held in Mexico City where journalists and discos were invited to bring in records to restore. This was recorded BEFORE KIRMUSS RESTORATION. This record was processed in the past with a vacuum based system. Notice the noises at the onset and limited frequency response. Obviously there was a film left on the record as well as the original pressing oil accounting for the lack of soundstage.
@oiygfdxssfgg8 ай бұрын
Very interesting video Charles, I bought one of your machines from London Drugs in Canada.
@kirmussaudio75788 ай бұрын
Congratulations. Do review our KZfaq channel for tips on using our system.
@oregrown8 ай бұрын
Snakeoil salesman
@kirmussaudio75788 ай бұрын
I only sell the best snake oil. Look at the recent tests made by Fremer and impromptu tests by Audiophilejunkie. Ask manufacturers like Jeff Rowland Design, Eric from Magnapan, Riendeau from Oracle, Wolf from Sota, Isaac from Acora, Hayes from VAC, and over 7,000 others before you make such an ignorant comment. We guarantee 1.3 to 3, 4 dB gain over floor and 8 to 32 % increase in frequency response. Your ears hear it you feel the imagery and increase in soundstage. Bring us a record to restore at a trade show. None of our peers talk about what they provide you as an record and music lover with their process. Science says it all. Best snakeoil available for your records. They'll love it!
@kirmussaudio75787 ай бұрын
Now on the KirmussAudio KZfaq channel recorded last November in Mexico City two short video clips with audio in sync with a spectrum analyzer with before and after restoration of two records using the Kirmuss process. Note the increase in signal and frequency response.
@rogerdjs9 ай бұрын
Nice system and Lab coat, but being a ex DJ with over 5000 albums this is not for me. I've been using a Vevor complete album cleaning system with a DYI filtration system and it works wonders, and all for about 185.00 out the door. And you can clean 8 albums at one time! 1 Year warranty plus the added guarantee of purchasing about 6 of the Vevor systems for the price of the unit on this demo...
@kirmussaudio75789 ай бұрын
Restoration using record ionization with an ultrasonic is not surface shining. We offer 1.3 to 3 to 4 dB gain and 8 to 32 % gain in frequency response. Fremer has proven where skewered records see no cavitation.
@rogerdjs9 ай бұрын
I shine the surface after the ultrasonic cleaning and I get about 10db gain average depending on the overall condition of record. Cavitation persist as evident by the evidence left behind... @@kirmussaudio7578
@markmendenhall7348 Жыл бұрын
Overpriced, over complicated, do yourself a favor and buy an isonic. The white coat should be a clue, he’s straight from the looney ward.
@thecelebrationdj Жыл бұрын
My heavens, that's a lot of work for each record. I wish I had this kind of time
@kirmussaudio7578 Жыл бұрын
PVC repells water with or without soap. To remove the release agent we need to ionize the record to be opposite to that of water. No known method except for ionization. If you want to surface shine a record, 3 minutes in our machine. We are not a surface cleaning process. Once you have processed a record in our machine we never have to repeat the process. Except for 2 minutes later when you decide that there are new contaminants or large amounts of fingerprints and the like accumulated over time and much handling . We guarantee 1.3 dB gain over floor for new records and upwards of 3 to 4 dB in records of provenance unknown or records processed with other cleaning systems. Proof is where our processed records do not need any air or vacuum drying. So yes, a little elbow grease is needed. Your needle is now riding on the detail as pressed by the stamper and not the grooves covered by the pressing oil as discovered originally by the Shure Brothers in 1977. Do look at our 10 part instructional video taken in Seoul Korea on our KZfaq channel that shows what a vacuum leaned record looks like after processing. Our process lets you see first our removing the film left by a vacuum system. Then the release agent also where dust was fused at the factory creating 3 pops in the record.
@jerryandlisa27 Жыл бұрын
Hello Mr Kirmus I enjoy the machine my only issue is the surfactant price . Is there something else I can use? Thank you
@kirmussaudio7578 Жыл бұрын
Our liquid is the only ionizing agent that we know of to change the charge of the record to be opposite to that of water in the tank. The cost per record comes out to between 0.26 and 0.32 cents depending on the number of cycles in the machine. You do not have to wet the entire record. A dab at 12, 4 and 8 o'clock positions is needed. Then to brush the spray in. It is not a cleaning solution. Used just to apply a charge to the record. The large 300 ml refill bottle at 95$ US all in is reasonable compared to other solutions. Transportation from Germany to Asia and then to the US accounts for 1/3 of the cost. The Trump Tax of 25% added to 3.8 % duty also is difficult to digest. The results though speak for themselves. We try to keep the cost reasonable but the additive also makes it hard as we are the only client for the mix.
@rickmilam413 Жыл бұрын
Hi Charles. I have what seems to be a practical question, at least to me. I know you consider the Degritter to be a "bubbler". Since cavitation is, in fact, creating bubbles I'm not sure how that's a disqualified but obviously you're saying it is not, in fact, an ultrasonic device due to the aluminum foil test. It seems obvious that the cavitation effects produced by a 120kHz machine will be far smaller than those created by yours and most others. If I throw a rock at a glass window with a certain velocity at a glass window, let's say it breaks. However if I throw a pebble at the same window with the same force, it likely wouldn't. Why doesn't that apply here? Thanks
@kirmussaudio7578 Жыл бұрын
Check out our testing of ultrasonics in our 45 minute session on our KZfaq channel. We used a cavitation meter to measure cavitation in three advertised ultrasonics. This piece of test gear is used by ultrasonic repair technicians to locate both faulty or failed transducers. Not any home made tester. Added you may make for yourself aluminum foil test records using specialized aluminum foil that is mandated by governments to test daily their ultrasonic machines. The foil should see dimpling if in fact if it is using cavitation. I started first with the foil test. Then as Fremer did not trust foil test that I used at NASA in 1978, I then bought 2 testers in September and October 2022 at a total of 38K invested to further provide proof. I am not from this industry, but was surprised the lack of any testing... a shiny coated record means nothing to any reasonable person studying the art. ...also added to my Keyence VHX-7000 2D 3D a $175,000 2D 3D imager. To your point, in China we see many sonic water bubblers used to clean vegetables. They do not use cavitation. Cannot say more. Self explanatory. Buyers need as Michael Fremer said in the Stereophile August 2022 issue SEE this industry sector SET PERHAPS standards as to safety and ingredients of chemical used etc.. In my 45 minute session recorded in Seoul are images of testing two advertised 40 KHz systems as well as a 120 Khz system. ADDING TEST OF ROTISERIE STYLE RECORDS USING BOTH ALUMINUM FOIL RECORDS AND A CAVITATION TESTER. surprise surprise surprise... Also where using a Nakamichi T100, a TC3000 from Ortofon, we do before anf after processing tests on any cleaner. So far we see a decrease in Signal to Noise ratio, and while we at times no longer hear a pop from a particular area on the record, our Keyence VHX 7000 measures also an increase in record height also seeing the contaminant still captured in the pressing oil. After many plays the needle gouges this out. Pop is heard once more. A restored or properly cleaned record based on the table of Tribelectric charges should repell water and not need air or vacuum drying. A much larger issue.
@kirmussaudio7578 Жыл бұрын
Added to my reply, in the slide presented, ultrasonic cavitation is generated by one or more transducers mounted on a metal surface, not plastic, generating a sound. 25, 35, 40 etc kHz. Bubbles generated due to the definition of cavitation as they rise do implode and generate an industry termed plasma wave. NOT BUBBLES. Chinese manufacturers are selling underwater air agitators that disturb standing water creating bubbles. This is low velocity. Used to clean vegetables. Incorrectly termed as an ultrasonic created bubble. Look at some of these machines. With no record in a true ultrasonic machine use the degas cycle. There are no visible bubbles as cavitation creates a wave. If you now see bubbles and if a soap was added , you will see foam. Equated to the product not being a true ultrasonic using cavitation. . Sonic activity sees rising and moving 'waves" created by implosion. Does not create visible bubbles. Cavitation generates invisible bubbles not seen by the human eye. Check out many web sites. They talk about micron level bubbles that implode, creating a wave and having sub visible bubbles that implode. Everyone also knows that the downfall of an ultrasonic"s efficacy is based on the presence of air. ...That is why we need to use in our case a degas cycle to remove air. So if a sonic shows no dimpling of the foil in the aluminum foil test or you see large air bubbles,, not using ultrasonic cavitation. If a true ultrasonic one should see dimpling of a special aluminum foil used to create a record of sorts. A cavitation meter should measure in CAVINS the pressure generated by a true ultrasonic. It should also be relatively even from edge of the record to the dead wax area only if some resonance has been added as ultrasonics by nature are violent with varying levels of intensity. Check out the slides showing this. Measure of wattage or current draw as most peers represent on a product sales sheet as to ultrasonic pressure means nothing as to cavitation, or ultrasonic cleaning efficacy. If we had a true ultrasonic there is a calculated load charge. Only a certain number of records per liter of water may be processed. ..this especially of concern one would think if we are looking at closely spaced records as seen in DIY rotisserie style record suspension systems in a 6 liter tank ...while an ultrasonic, seen first hand where standing waves if a true ultrasonic due to close proximity of records to each other negates the premise of cavitation... as also seen in my slides using both foil and using a cavitation meter. ASK AN ULTRASONIC MANUFACTURER WHAT IS THE PRESSURE MEASURED FROM THE BOTTON OF THE BASIN ADJACENT TO THE EDGE OF THE RECORD ALL THE WAY UP TO DEAD WAX AREA , THIS IN CAVINS IN THE ULTRASONIC' S BATH. ... OR ITS PRESSURE EQUIVALENT. NEVER WATTS!
@jerryandlisa27 Жыл бұрын
I was very skeptical about your record restoration system. It takes trial and error to get the records cleaned, I had alot of questions that Mr Kirmuss always answered not only by email but called me directly to help me with the process. I can assure you that his process works and works amazingly, . The first run of records was Miles Davis Kind Of Blue 45 RPM UHQR. After the following instructions my record was noisy , Mr Kirmuss called me and explained how to clea new records , my records have not sounded this good!!! Believe the man he has science behind his findings.
@kirmussaudio7578 Жыл бұрын
Your interpretation of what is a bubbler and what is cavitstion is incorrect. Bublers seen sold in China to wash vegetables do not rely on cavitation. Do look at our 45 minute video on our KZfaq channel or the upcoming video shot yesterday at the Florida Audio Shie as to what is cavitation. To appreciate what we bring to the table one needs to first study what is cavitation. Cavitation creates pressure measured in Cavins or watts per square inch. We generate cavitation of 810 Cavins. To solve the dilemma, What is the pressure generated by your systems? I know the answer. Let me know before I continue. If you appreciate the relationship between surface area loading and rules governing this as it relates to an ultrasonic bath, youbwill appreciate I an sure where the level of cavitation intensity first varies as the bubbles rise and implode and a relationship in frequency as well needs to be first selected based on what are we trying to remove, a release agent and contaminants fused into the pressing oil. Added, We add a 70 khz resonance to our 35 khz generated signal to even out the areas that rise. Using cavitation amone one cannot remove the pressing oil or release agent as I call it. Much more complex. The Tribelectric table of charges states where both the record and water with or without soap repell each other. So our IP requires one to ionize the record. Thus applies to all sonics when dealing with records. Do cone back with the homework so I can then summarize the misconceptions presented.
@kirmussaudio7578 Жыл бұрын
@Jerry Padilla Many thanks! FYI... We restored dozens of records here at the Florids Audio show, many records previously processed prior by a variety of so called cleaning methods that reported to us by the record owners sone using sonics with purported frequencies of 40 and 120 Khz. While these records were shiny before our processing, the audience including notable industry experts such as Michael Fremer witnessed the successful restoration of these previously processed records using our process. Witnessing both the contaminants and films being removed as well as witnessing using our spectrum analyzer, the resulting gain. Obviously the playback and listening saw the imaging tightened and soundstage incressed. Glad you are realizing the same results as our visitors at the show.
@frankvanhelvert6231 Жыл бұрын
how many records could be done with 6 liters distilled water? thanks for your great video!
@kirmussaudio7578 Жыл бұрын
Happy New Year to you and yours. While restored records come out virtually dry after using out process we suggest that you change the water after processing every 10 to 15 records based on looking at the color of water. This is more out of common sense rather than required by process. To maintenance after use.. The water irrespective should be drained from the machine and discarded daily. The underside and removable felt pads should be misted with distilled water then dried using the supplied rabbit workstation cloth, with a small amount of 70% IPA poured onto the stainless steel tank, then dried and polished also with the rabbit workstation microfiber cloth. Back to your question as to when to change water, as one removes the record assembly cover every 5 records to perform one degas cycle, one can also note if the water is excessively cloudy. This would occur faster than 10 or 15 records being processed if one has been processing records with very visible coatings of fungus.
@frankvanhelvert6231 Жыл бұрын
@@kirmussaudio7578 i see.thanks for your extended answer!!
@kirmussaudio7578 Жыл бұрын
Noted and you are most welcome. Your question was very well received and where I wanted to respond in kind to also add the matter of maintaining the system at the end of day once water was discarded. To note and to expand on your question, in our system no filters are needed to TRY to filter water as restored records repell water. Proven to the many audio journalists where discovered the fact where many advertised filters used in many systems have pores 60 times larger than the dirt, dust and fungus coming off records. They should have working filters as their records come out wet and air or vacuum drying simply adds a film to the record, making it shiny but little to improve sound and seeing the needle over time gouge out thus film.
@jondubb35 Жыл бұрын
Interesting. Seems that some of the steps in the process have been updated. I purchased my Kirmuss Restoration System back in 2019. The “How-To-Use” manual that came with my system did not mention different processing instructions for new and used records. In this video here, you’re saying that new records, as in anything under 15 years or brand new records, need to go through 4 2 minute cycles, with a final 5 minute cycle. And old records, older than 15 years, the process is standard, with the surfactant spray being applied and then into the machine for a 5 minute cycle, and then repeat this process until the white paste disappears…. Now you got me all confused on how to properly process my records with Kirmuss system.
@kirmussaudio75788 ай бұрын
@@jondubb35 Please consult our web site with the latest details as how to use our machine. We have discovered over the last five years many issues with records and where in our products we provide the latest instructions. Since 2022: For new records 16 years or younger or records that see sheets of water on the surface of the record or hundreds of water droplets on the surface of the record (use of LAST preservative), after processing the record using the first cycle with the ionizing agent, 1) Take the record out; wobble it to remove excess/pooled water 2) Use the lint free microfiber bunny cloth to remove pooled water (so as to not dilute the ionizing agent (spray)); 3) Apply the spray; 3) Insert in the machine for a 2 minute cycle, 4) Remove record; 5) Repeat steps 21to 4 for another 3, two minute cycles; Record should come out virtually dry. Polish per the instructions. Other tips: Cavitation generates heat. You will see the temperature bar move from left to right, from green to orange to a long red bar then a short red bar. Then a flashing red bar. Rather than taking the cover off of the machine and turning the machine off to see the water and the ceramic transducers cool down, empty the tank, recover the used water, pour fresh cold water in the tank, add the 2 shots of 70% IPA used to kill fungus, perform two degas pulse functions, then continue restoring records. With the discarded water back in their original containers, keep the cap off of the containers to allow the evacuated water to cool. Water should be discarded every 15 to 30 records depending on what you see in the tank. Never keep water overnight in the machine. After daily use, discard water, mist the underside of the record assembly with distilled water, use the bunny cloth to dry gears moving them by hand, as well as remove the felt pads, mist with distilled water, pad dry using the bunny cloth, then air dry before reassembling. Use a little of the 70% IPA on the stainless steel tank and polish with the bunny cloth.
@67Pepper Жыл бұрын
I was considering buying one but it looks like it takes 30 minutes to clean one record using this process and there's warning to turn the machine off after 35 minutes of use and let it rest for 15 minutes, so that means close to an hour to clean 1 or 2 records, sorry but that's ridiculous. And why do you have to push the pulse button twice in succession? Why no just make it so you push once. And the 1.30 timer sequence you repeat twice. Why not just make it a 3 minute cycle? Sorry but I don't get it.
@kirmussaudio7578 Жыл бұрын
Incorrect the process. We can process 20 records before turning the machine off to cool down the transducers. The 35 minue rule is applicable only if applicable if we do not stop the machine. We can further continue if we change the hot water when the small red bar flashes with a cool refill. We processed here in Seoul in a media event yesterday 11 records, 4 cycles before a 10 minute stop when the small red light started to flash. Give us a call.
@garyindiana9329 Жыл бұрын
Two other things I would do differently are first: never let a microfiber cloth anywhere near a record at all, even as just a drip towel. Why? Because of what you said about the 'lint.' This material sheds plastic fibers like mad and I had to find out the hard way about the danger that microfiber poses to vinyl records. Just a few of these lint fibers on a record can gunk up your stylus and cause distortion, and worse case the the needle jumps the grooves, skips and skids. I would only use a new very fine-weave cotton towel that you shake out real good and it must not have gone through your washer/dryer ever. (The center elevation with a fur pad is a good a idea here.) Second, I would cut the amount of alcohol used to 3/4 or half the 40 ml you suggest, as it is still a solvent, and with different vinyl formula over the years there may be the chance of records having less resistance to damage from contact with *any* amount of alcohol. Also, I would have two goat hair brushes: one for surfactant, and one for plain water or dabbing. I use a similar system with my 45 record restoration technique. Plus you have to be very careful applying a fluid to only one side of 12" record, especially thinner pressings, as doing this just begs these discs to warp. You've got to be quick and use as little fluid as possible. From 40+ years of collecting and cleaning experience.
@kirmussaudio7578 Жыл бұрын
We use an opticians lint free cloth and parastatic felt brush at the end of the process. Pse review our manual for complete details.
@kirmussaudio7578 Жыл бұрын
Rrspectfully this is Incorrect. 70% IPA 1.4 ounces in 1.78 gallons does not affect the plasticizer. The 70% is not a dilution of 91 or 99%. Different chemical process. Not used for any actual cleaning of any grooves as the record repells the distilled water with the 1.4 ounces added, it is used to kill live or dormant fungus that comes off the record so one does not inhale it.
@kirmussaudio7578 Жыл бұрын
Please review the latest materials on our web site, version 10 of the manual. Tge videos date back to 2019.
@garyindiana9329 Жыл бұрын
I agree with your methodology and approach to cleaning 12" vinyl using ultrasonics' to remove contamination, but I personally would recommend doing some of your preparation much differently, namely not ever using a "circular" motion to scrub record groves (like if you were cleaning your floor); it drove me nuts watching you do that in your presentation. I talk with the authority of a lifelong collector, starting in a high school radio station in the 1970's up to today, and that is that you only follow the grooves cleaning and never try to wipe away from or towards the center. I see it is just an application phase for the cleaning solution, but you are busting a protocol on standard care methods. I don't think you are doing the record any favors that way. See my next post.
@kirmussaudio7578 Жыл бұрын
We are not cleaning the grooves. We are using the brush to first change the charge of the record to ve opposite of water. It os not a
@kirmussaudio7578 Жыл бұрын
It is not a cleaning agent or a soap. It is an ionizing agent to see the effects of cavitation be attracted to the record as usually records, water and soap repel each other based on the Tribelectric table of charges. As we cycle records in and out of the machine as the induced charge dissipates, the subsequent application of the ionizing spray also allows one to see what the ultrasonic softened in the prior cycle. First removing films left over by prior vacuum, manual or sonic methods. Then finally the release agent itself. The rise and fall of whitish materials and rapid evaporation there of validates the groove has been restored...the needle now riding the image of the stamper. Swirling motion aids in changing the charge. Also allows one to see the effectiveness of the prior cycle. New records dated 20 years or younger are notorious with their PVC mix so we use a 5, four 2 minute and a final 5 minute cycle irrespective of the whitish material appearing.
@nattyco2 жыл бұрын
This is all overly complicated. I would rather use a quicker system so that I have more time to listen to the music.
@kirmussaudio75782 жыл бұрын
Look over details on our website and appreciate the fact where the Tribelectric table of charges proves that one needs to attract the effect of cavitation and as the record spins our induced charge sprayed onto the record needs to be re applued.applied. this if we want to remove the release agent. The heating of the water caused by cavitation has a negligible effect on removing the 70% IPA used to kill live or dormant fungus. Thus as we change out the water every 10 records or so per the manual.
@kendavis36042 жыл бұрын
A shot glass (1.5 Oz) is perfectly sized for measuring the isopropyl alcohol
@kirmussaudio75782 жыл бұрын
Mine are larger...little humor! Thanks!
@kendavis36042 жыл бұрын
@@kirmussaudio7578 I’m very impressed with my Kirmuss RCM (from Dr. Vinyl). The surfactant is so key to the overall level of clean that can be achieved, as you demonstrate very effectively. When Jose called you about missing parts, then found them and called you back and said “I’m an idiot”… that was my Kirmuss RCM, lol.
@iraeich2 жыл бұрын
Hi, Can you reuse the water the next day if you haven't restored15-20 records yet with that solution?
@kirmussaudio75782 жыл бұрын
No. The tank needs to be emptied every day and where we also mist with distilled water the gears and belt followed by using the rabbit microfiber cloth to dry, then let air dry before reassembly. Fungus will grow over time and where residues taken off records may stick to the gears.
@erikmolnar65852 жыл бұрын
Wait a sec, did my eyes see correctly? Is this machine only 1000 thousand dollars??? Thats very affordable. I still wont be buying one... not at this time at least.
@kirmussaudio75782 жыл бұрын
Everyone deserves a way to enjoy their precious and loved pressings. We set affordability for all.
@erikmolnar65852 жыл бұрын
Ringo Star! Michael must not be totally sold on it yet??? This guy sounds like he knows what he's talking about??? Definately a great rep. Was he one of the engineers? Or more on the marketing side? Ill never be able to afford this. I only have 50 lps, mas o menos, but I find it all very interesting. I know I kinda troll Michael by comparing him to Lou Reed. But im being completely honest and mean no disrespect. He's not as wrecked looking as Lou got later in life. He and John Cale made some really groundbreaking music and sound. Love Transformer also. I Need to get that one again. Anyway, I look forward to seeing if this becomes the record cleaner for Audiophiliacs to get :^)
@kirmussaudio75782 жыл бұрын
Noted your notes. Both JR Boisclair of Wally Tools and I have been noted as disruptive as We provided technical details for the first time in decades to disrupt the many myths out there using test equipmentand scientific processes. . As to record care I ask openly the question if industry peers have ever told their potential customers what their chemicals are and do, as well as what a cleaning machine advertised is supposed to do? Our seminars are generic and have started to demystify old myths and therefore erase many of the reports published in many magazines over decades. . At our seminars at the various audio shows and as to cleaning solutions sold we have provided details as why some do not work or where some are harmful to pvc per the pvc chemical compatibility chart. With hands on matetials presented to the audience , kowing that ultrasonics should dimple a record made out of aluminum foil, hand outs are given. In fact two machines advertised as 40 khz ultrasonics show no cavitation and fail this test. Some cleaning solutions were shown to coat records once we showed before and after measurements. At our seminar sessions at the audio shows we allow the audience to make their own decisions after they see and can touch the test samples. In fact we show how audiophiles may do their own independent testing and make their own observations. Michael has seen these materials. In fact his seeing the effect of ultrasonic cavitation on skewered aluminum records spaced so tight in sold rotisserie style skewer systems that hold records in ultrasonic machines sees the lack of even distribution of cavitation, so any person would not doubt why Michael in seeing these tests, tests that anyone can replicate, certainly creates doubt as to the efficacy in some of the advertised products out there. So indeed he noted that it seems there is lots of scale oil out there. One of our assets is a VHX7000 Keyence $170 000 microscope used to take imagery of before and after use of our system. One can use a simple VU Meyer also to note increased signal, so to your point, I certainly saw his frustration about thus industry product sector..
@Cesar-ze4ou2 жыл бұрын
I want to buy one of those covers for my US machine but it does not have the connector on the side to plug it into so i want to use an adapter. Do you know the DC voltage it runs on? Cheers, Cesar
@kirmussaudio75782 жыл бұрын
The assembly only works with our machine. It is not just voltage but cavitation machine frequency and resonance
@kirmussaudio75782 жыл бұрын
The machine you are referring is not made by us and if our ionizing agent is used will affect negatively your records just as our spray when used with other machines will see the records sandblasted.
@bencausey2 жыл бұрын
Too Much Trouble
@kirmussaudio75782 жыл бұрын
It's the only way to remove the release agent. One needs to apply several charges to the record to change the charge of the record to be opposite that of water or a soap. That is why all other processes only surface clean.
@kirmussaudio75782 жыл бұрын
..These cycles are needed as the record looses the charge induced by the ionizing spray that was applied by the goat hair brush as the record spins in the machine. So we strip off first films left over from vacuum, ultrasonic and manual spin clean systems, then the release agent from the time of pressing. A new record sees an average gain over floor of 1.3 dB. 3 to 4 dB on records of provenance unknown. You can see the science on the Zoom of Feb 7 2022 hosted by the NJ Audiophile Society. Also PM our web site.
@fuadramsey32 жыл бұрын
What is that brush you're using with the surfactant?
@kirmussaudio75782 жыл бұрын
We are using a goat hair brush to apply the ionizing agent to the record.
@fuadramsey32 жыл бұрын
@@kirmussaudio7578 Thank You.
@kirmussaudio75782 жыл бұрын
We enjoyed the NW Audio Show in UK so far
@charleshandley56612 жыл бұрын
Aren’t you supposed to wash a record after applying a surfactant? I use Tergikleen and the tell you you must wash the record after using it. You apply it last without a rinse.
@kirmussaudio75782 жыл бұрын
Terhiclean contains ethylene oxide. Not to be used on pvc. Our agent is not a surfactant cleaner. Our process applying a spray onto the recotd over several cycles changes the charge of the record to be opposite to that of water to benefit from the effects of cavitation. Once the record has been restored removing any films left over from prior cleaning methods as well as the record pressings release agent, the record comes out virtually dry. No need for any wash as our process is completely different than others. Hope this responds to you question.
@markwallerich14552 жыл бұрын
I do not believe that Mr. Kirmuss is a chemical engineer, otherwise he would know that vinyl records made since the 1960's is more chemically resistant than the cleaning references that he quotes from the 1960's. Those references are for the 78's that were previously made and still prevalent at the time. Also, ethylene glycol can be used as a wetting agent, but it is not a soap. On any vinyl record made in the past 50+ years, you can use a stronger solution of alcohol, and instead of ethylene glycol, it is more advisable to use a soap and then thoroughly rinse with distilled water. Shake off excess water, dry with a clean towel, and use a discwasher to take off the residual fibers.
@kirmussaudio75782 жыл бұрын
I believe you are mistaken in your posting. The premise of our process is to change the charge of the record to be opposite to that of water no matter the vintage of the record. We do not care about ethylene glycol per say. That explains in order to use the benefits of cavitation we in our process change the charge of the record temporarily using a coating. If you are trying to remove the release agent from within a 35 micron diameter groove and any microwelded dust using a liquid of whatever type and noted where the suspension further with a droplet size of over 100 microns cannot do this.
@kirmussaudio75782 жыл бұрын
Added. No matter the vintage of the pvc pressing.
@DuzBee2 жыл бұрын
More and more brand new records seem to have excessive surface noise, hiss, ticks, pops, crackles where my other new records are fine. Can the cleaner assist with this surface noise/hiss?
@kirmussaudio75782 жыл бұрын
Absolutely. We use a fixed process. One 5 minute cycle. 4 two minute cycles.l, then one 5 minute cycle each with the ionizing agent applied. The Sound engineer for cellist Vincent Belanger processes their new pressings and notes the 1.3 dB gain.
@DuzBee2 жыл бұрын
So before you play it, wet the record with surfactant, drag my $5000 stylus through a wet record? Why even dry the record if you have to wet it before playing it?
@kirmussaudio75782 жыл бұрын
No . Mist on a dry brush ionizes the record after processing. Then one either plays it or stores it. One or the other. It is only done once. It is an anti static treatment
@DuzBee2 жыл бұрын
@@kirmussaudio7578 Thank you for your reply - appreciate it as I try to understand this all. Mist is a liquid on the brush then the brush puts the liquid on the record before playing, so in my mind the record is now wet before playing? or am I over thinking it?
@kirmussaudio75782 жыл бұрын
The mist on the brush applied at arm's length evaporates on contact with the brush. All you ate doing at the polishing stage is to ionize the record and negate the charge
@chuckgaut2 жыл бұрын
In in
@tonywillans75562 жыл бұрын
Man, at this rate I'll be as old as Fremer before my last record is 'supa dupa' washed! Sorry, I like listening to my records, not washing them.
@PopPop_22 жыл бұрын
Was going to invest in this unit. But after seeing this video, I'm going to pass. Did anyone else notice he put the record on the turntable twice while it was running? No thanks..
@kirmussaudio75782 жыл бұрын
We are able to insert 4 records in the machine at anytime. The video was made during an interview. If a record while the machine is running is inserted incorrectly it pops out and allows you to reinsert it as it should, perpendicular to the assembly.
@PopPop_22 жыл бұрын
@@kirmussaudio7578 thank you for your reply, but I was referring to when the records were put on the turntable. If he can't do that properly, I'm not going to buy into anything else he says or does. Someone should teach this expert how to place a record on a turntable, then make a video. It'll be a bit more believable.
@kirmussaudio75782 жыл бұрын
No worries!
@tonywillans75562 жыл бұрын
It's only a Ringo record!
@kirmussaudio75782 жыл бұрын
No worries... FYI our design is to remove the release agent from the record's grooves. Not to surface clean. Removing it removes embedded dust microwelded in the "pressing oil" that Shure spoke about in the 70's at the factory, where we remove the pops caused by this and increase on a new pressing the signal to the phono stage by almost 1.3 db.. To surface clean, needed only one 5 minute cycle for 4 records is all that is needed. Surface cleaning and release agent removal are two separate processes. We purport the latter.
@SammeLagom2 жыл бұрын
I'm gonna save up for this and clean my around 500 records with it! Thanks for making this amazing product so affordable!
@kirmussaudio75782 жыл бұрын
You will reap the benefits immediately! Bob Levy Chairman of the Los Angeles Audio Society just gave us a raving review.
@SammeLagom2 жыл бұрын
@@kirmussaudio7578 Congrats guys! 👍
@ackamack1012 жыл бұрын
Me too! And yes, Thank you!
@D800Lover2 жыл бұрын
With a name like that, shouldn't he be green?
@paulomontero123 жыл бұрын
Only cleanes one at a time?
@kirmussaudio75783 жыл бұрын
4 records at a time all sides. 2 lp, one 10" , one 45
@johnkinnane5473 жыл бұрын
I noticed that you haven't replied to any one who has taken the time to write to you, why are you wearing a white coat? I reckon I know why. So what do you charge for this thing! Sounds like bullshit to me!
@kirmussaudio75783 жыл бұрын
You must be mistaken. We reply to everyone. We only reply when we see an alert. If you have a problem, call us at our office either in the UK or USA. We are not alone in using a lab coat. Audio Technica was the first. Then Bob's Devices. Used to make an impact at trade shows when new technologies are revealed. For us records that we receive at trade shows see some ridden with fungus. When removed from the record's sleeve a large cloud appears, rather have it land on the lab coat rather than our street clothes.
@kirmussaudio75783 жыл бұрын
Upscale Audio sells an exclusive machine that processes 3 LPS and one 45 for $1,100. The 2 LP, 1 x10", 1 x45 has a retail .price of $ 970.
@TheRacingSlick3 жыл бұрын
Just received my Kirmuss restoration device. No matter how long I let it cool, when I turn it on the red led is lit. The small one on the far right also lights up within 1-2 minutes. Room temperature is 23C. Any tips?
@kirmussaudio75783 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your email. The operation us normal. Do review the manual and supplement on our web site. 1. You need to remove the cover to cool the water. Usually 10 minutes. 2. The long red bar is the normal operating range. You stop only when the small red light bar lights up, now finishing the last cycle. 3. You stop immediately when the small red bar flashes.
@TheRacingSlick3 жыл бұрын
@@kirmussaudio7578thanks for your reply! the problem I have is that the small red light is always on, already after degaussing, and it never flashes. However, after about 20 minutes I can see the records warping and I feel a heatwave coming up from the machine, so I'm assuming it's too hot which causes the warp.
@kirmussaudio75783 жыл бұрын
We do not monitor our KZfaq site. Communicate to us using email. We will send you an RMA number.
@kirmussaudio75783 жыл бұрын
Please call us for warranty repair.
@sharpdressedvan3 жыл бұрын
What are the dimensions of your machine? I am shopping for a stand for set-up purposes.
@CraigLafferty3 жыл бұрын
What is plasma wave?
@kirmussaudio75783 жыл бұрын
When cavitation occurs there is a wave created. Sonic engineers call this a plasma wave. You may see waves in the tank of distilled water when an ultrasonic is operating.
3 жыл бұрын
does it remove "LAST" ?
@kirmussaudio75783 жыл бұрын
Yes. Use one 5 minute cycle, 4 two minute cycle, one 5 minute cycle. Use the rabbit microfiber cloth to remove pooling water found on the record between cycles.
3 жыл бұрын
what is that white toothpasty cream called? - how much lighter does the record weigh when it 'oozes' out ? Can you show the data?
@kirmussaudio75783 жыл бұрын
Respectfully read the documents. The whitish materials appearing after the prior cycle in the sonic are the contaminants etc. softened by the ultrasonic and being brought out by the goat hair brush when adding the ionizing surfactant spray.
@kirmussaudio75786 ай бұрын
There is a colorant in the mix that allows one to see what the ultrasonic pulled out on the prior cycle. Rapid dissipation confirms the last cycle in the machine
3 жыл бұрын
Cool doctors gown. Is this guy a dentist or something?