I just bought one and we are very impressed. Yeah it takes a bit of time but it's worth it. My wife and I couldn't believe the difference. I actually did one record 5x. It's not meant to do a whole collection in one night. The sound improvement justifies it. After all the money I spent on junk record cleaning products this is the one that actually works. I'm actually surprised it cleans records way beyond what I thought was a clean record. Regardless at the end of the day the "work" justifies the results. It only feels like alot of work until u hear the results then it makes u want to get them all cleaned. Anyways great machine and I'm really happy with the sonic results .

Excellent and informative video. Definitely interested in the system. Sounds like Dan Aykroyd is in the room cleaning vinyl. Thank you Michael for posting.

This makes me not want to collect or play anymore lps! All the work is insane!

Michael I can’t wait for your review and how this will compare to the Audiodesk that you have. I didn’t know that you were still into cassette decks, that’s a nice Nakamichi Dragon and Revox deck that you have there. Thanks Kirmuss Audio for doing the demo.

After 3 years of research we discovered where most systems cosmetically cleaned. Nice to see 1.5 to 5 db gain using the process. Enjoy your restored records and the breath and air of the original recording!

My heavens, that's a lot of work for each record. I wish I had this kind of time

Our process allows you to see first hand when we have stripped out past cleaning residues and the like. I beleive we are the only people to talk about signal gain after use of our process. I HOPE SO!!! We have received many positive comments from users of other processes. Enjoying very much talking to users.

Thanks for the recommendation! Enjoy the newly discovered breath of a restored record with release agent removed!

Got mine today and already cleaned 3 records. It WORKS!

Other processes only surface clean. This as both the record and water have the same charge. Our process changes the charge of the record attracting the plasma wave created by the ultrasonic to first remove past films left by other processes and cleaning methods. Then we proceed to remove the release agent that surfaced and was left by the pressing process. At the California Audio Show this past weekend we processed even new records presented by Lynn Stanley in her session. offering 1.3 db increase over floor. We do not only clean.

I bought the KA-RC1 a few weeks ago. It's amazing, It's pricey, yes, but it trumps Spin-Clean & Vinyl Styl, but it is a much deeper cleaning system than a vacuuming-based offering. Friends, after using the KA-RC1 with several of my old LPs, they literally sound brand new. It will NOT repair deep scratches, but if people have carefully handled their LPs and stored them properly, the KA-RC1 genuinely restores the original sound of your records. If you care about your vinyl, get this thing.

Great question and point for us to respond to. First, we do not use a cleaning solution. We use an ionizing solution. There is a difference. Our agent is not a cleaner as our process deals with the record grooves. At $ 85 US dollars for a 300 ml refill bottle which allows one to restore between 300 andv 600 records , number depending on the number of cycles needed to remove first the left over films from prior cleanings that were air or vacuum dried onto the record's surface, then the record release agent, ...At between 0.28 cents and 0.14 cents per record, and for groove restoration, this is very, very reasonable, one would think. Another manufacturer has agreed where their cleaning solution of $ 25 USD per bottle which cannot be left in their machine's tank overnight but even so, if one could wash 100 records in a day, that equates to 0.25 cents a record just for a washing. Clearly we provide the lowest cost of ownership.

I purchased this equipment and I must say...It rocks. I am very pleased. It cleaned a 40 year old record that I bought when I was a kid and it the album sounds like it was freshly pressed. Definitely recommended.

We restore and not clean 2 or 3 lps in 20 to 25 minutes depending on what process you used prior. We remove even release agents from 30 years ago exposing for the first time the grooves as originally pressed less release agent! New records see 3, five minute cycles for German pressings. Four 5 minute cycles for new American pressings. Records washed by some ultrasonics and vacuum systems take 25 minutes.

Works. Cool.

The spinning rollers help guide the record into proper position.

We would love to do this. We will make a recording of before and after as well as provide signal strength measurements. We also use the Sugar Cube SC1 as do many of our dealers to count the clicks and provide and record the audio just of the pre and post restoration process clicks and pops as reference. Great proof of our restoration process. No one else as a manufacturer talks of quantitative and qualitative measurements and processes. In fact one sonic cleaner is not even using ultrasonics, we discoveted... Please do read Paul Rigby's test report in HiFi World Jan 2019 edition where a record restored by our system and then subject to the Audio Desk System, his prior reference system, affected negatively the record that we just restored and where the record was then returned to it's full glory when returned to our system for one cycle. Hifi Pig published the same results independent of Paul in their January 2019 review, giving us Outstanding Product award. We cannot say more , we work with record custodians on a professional basis and use test equipment to prove our claims, but it seems globally where the snake oil is everywhere else... not in our process.

Sticking with my Loricraft.

I think Mike Fremer was only half joking when he said, to the effect of, “So, you’ll stay here and clean all of my records?”. I don’t doubt that this must be a very, very good way to make ones records as spotlessly super duper as close to sterile-clean as they’ll ever be. But time consuming? Like none other I’ve ever seen or heard of. While you are spending half your life cleaning your records, I’ll be listening to mine. After a quick spin on my VPI 16.5 record cleaner, of course. Which might not do what this ultrasonic procedure does, but pretty damn close I bet. Now, there IS an ultrasonic cleaner out there that automates much of the job, but it cost much, much, much more. And it’s price makes it out of reach for most. But really - after watching this I can see why some audiophiles spend the money for it!

Our goal is to remove any release agent which we consider an attractant to dust which is subsequently micro welded into the coating found in the grooves. Records do not need lubrication or a lubricant. Needles and cartridge design predicates no such lubrication. In fact, one known product purported to change the molecular structure of the record to protect it against wear was found to simply coat the record with a 9 micon film... the purpose of a record's groove is to make full contact with the dyne of the needle. To cost a record otherwise affects the intent of the entire process.

Also, all other sonic machines try to clean in 5 minutes one record. Many vaccum systems need 10 minutes or 15 minutes per side... trying to clean. Most sonic manufacturer suggest repeated cycles. Some do one size record only, one at a time. . We do multiple records and sizes simultaneously. Clean or restore, your choice with our process.

Check out the review by Andre Jennings of The Absolute Sound supporting the findings of Mr. Fremer as to the restoration capabilities of our system.

We will have a video on our site that will allow one to see how different ultrasonic machines work. One may replicate the tests at home with their own machine. Surface cleaning is not the same as groove restoration. One will discover spacing of records placed in an ultrasonic bath is important. Some purport they have an ultrasonic inside their machine. The video will support our discoveries and claims.

That's a long process to clean records. Do you have an adapter for 4 x 12" 33's ??

Well noted. Analog experts Andre Jennings and Michael Fremer both ascert where the KA-RC 1 is not a surface cleaner. We are a restoration process. To explain, We remove first films left over from prior cleanings, then the record pressing process release agent that is weeks or years old. The latter is where we find the dust microwelded into it by the heat generated by the needle, causing the pops that one hears. Restorstion is 6 or 7 two minute cycles or 4 to 5 five minute cycles depending on the provenance of the record. Yes there are repeated steps. ...This as where vinyl repels water with or without a cleaning solution. That is why for decades the many cleaning processes do not work as to getting into grooves. They also inherently leave surface films when records air or vacuum dried. . Added the size of the water molecule. Another hindrance to getting into the grooves. As our ionizing agent gets washed off in the process due to the charge of the record returning to the like charge of water, that is why the repeated steps. ...Also by chance we see the actual result of each cycle by what the goat hair brush has brought up that the sonic softened in the prior cycles. If you wish to just surface clean, use a 3 minute cycle with our machine. We may clean 4 records at the same time. Restoration per Andre Jennings brings soundstage and timbre back, hidden by films left over by prior cleanings as well as the release agent.

So clean one record takes almost 30 minutes?

1. We changed to 60 ml bottles from 250 ml in 2019, due to issues shipping. The 60 ml does 60 to 100 records based on 4 five minute cycles average. Only light spray at 22, 4 and 8 PM is needed. 2,100 customers in one year cannot be wrong. Pse make sure you review the updates on our Company web site as to supplements and asked questions. It is impossible to scratch a record with goat hair brush. The brush is held by squeezing the goat hairs and using thus to add pressure to the brush hairs to bring up the contaminants and push the ionizing agent into the grooves. Kindky review the supplemental manual pictures. The typical time for a new German pressed record is 3 five minute cycles. For a new US record pressing, 3 to 5 five minute cycles. Depending on provenance you need to apply the ionizing surfactant until you see the rise, then fall of what appears as a whitish material. This is material disturbed by the brush from the gooves. A decrease or rapid evaporation confirms the last five minute cycle before polishing. Records repel water. If you have a record coated with Last Protectant or L'Art du Son, ...You will see thousands of small water droplets on the record after the second 5 minute cycle. You will waste the ionizing surfactant. Per the QA section, change to 2 minute cycles, not 5 minute ones. Coatings such as LAST repel anything put on the record, the sonic will wash the ionizing surfactant off the record within two rotations. Using 2 minute cycles it takes 5 to 6 two minute cycles. The above info is in the supplements and web site updates.

70 % ipa is not rubbing alcohol. 70% ipa unlike higher concentrations is water soluble and as such does not affect the plasticizer. It is not used as a cleaner. It is used to kill off dormant or live fungus. The process described of ionizing the record is the key to remove the remnants of the release agent that attracts and holds contaminants. Our process has been developed over 5 years and we invite you to visit one of our dealers or us at a trade show with the record of your choice that you are very familiar with and do the challenge. Several artists who have pressed recently new releases use our process and note the difference.

We clean 4 records in 2 minutes total. 4 records simultaneously. We restore 4 records between 15 and 25 minutes simultaneously. Restoration is not cleaning. Restoration removes first films left by prior cleaning methods, then we remove the release agent from new and old records alike. 40 years of pops and clicks removed. Read our faqs section.

Is there a way we can hear the difference of vinyl playback through an audio sample for reference, by comparison between a vacuum cleaner and the Kirmuss?

hi, I am interested in purchasing but would prefer the 3 LP adapter that you mentioned below around 1 yr ago, is this adapter ready yet? I never use 45s or 78s and would prefer to go all in on the 33s

As I am more into 45's than 33's and my collection is mainly 45's here is my question... can I restore 2 45's simultaneously?

$80 for a bottle of that spray. Ripoff scammer

Thank you for your querry. Please do note foremost where our peers sell their ultrasonics at 4,000, 4890, and 7800 usd respectively. These are their list prices. Our ultrasonic baed machine with sundries and proper designed record suspension system itself is no where near these retail levels. We offer the best bang for the dollar with written gustantted results in decibels. We are the standard. Our dealers have 2000 sets sold in the US alone last year to audiophiles. This indicates to any reasonable person where we are the true honest value leader. I have no issues as owner to explain our profit. Am proud of how we support our channel partners. Our product channel partners are honest, most if not all are family owned businesses, just like ours. We were seen by manufacturers such as Jeff Rowland Design, Oracle Turntable, Audio Note as industry leaders and honest. They use our product to restore their own records. We are the only sonic based manufacturer to offer a written performance guarantee in restoration.. Audiophile and dealer approved! To your question, We have pricing established at 3 tiers. Distribution Price, Dealer Price, and Retail Price. Each tier makes a profit. We also have manufacturer representatives promoting our products. They receive the same commission as they would on their other audio lines they represent. ...If you have been in retail you should appreciate this. Continuing... Import Duties are 2.5 % from China, plus where we have the Trump Tax added of 25% added. Pending is another 10%. This arrives at our product cost. I have no issue in providing you with the above as to each profit tier. I am personally supportive of audiophiles and our channel partners and our mutual responsibilities as custodians of records and recordings. Compared to our dealers and distributors, we are making very little when compared to our channel partners. ...This said, we sell primarily through dealers. We have no on line store. Our Dealers make the same amount of profit on our product as they do with their other high end lines. ... You seem like a bright person. If you have been in retail or know of someone that is involved in stereo, or have been a manufacturer's representative, you should appreciate what that profit lines are between respective sales channel tiers to remain a viable business. . Easy for you to see who makes what off of our list price of 970 usd for the us model. Overseas models are slightly more expensive due to added costs of a different power supply, three additional electrical approvals, and shipping. Overseas also have added taxation. As to the US model you refer to. we ship by air our 30 pound unit to our hq. With your calculator in hand, we, our dealers and distributors and reps are certainly the friend of audiophiles and especially where we meet our responsibilities as custodians of recordings by using our affirdable and globally proven process to restore records and bring back proudly to life those artists, engineers, musicians, studios long passed.

will this cleaning method clean old RCA records and Columbia records that were kept in plastic and cellophane sleeves where the plastic and cellophane has seemingly baked into the vinyl? Will it remove it from the record?

Would of been nice to hear the record before and after cause to me that is one long cleaning method

Also we use the specially sized goat hair brush to further polish and apply antifungal to the record while spinning on a turntable before audition or storage.

Wondering if a high pH ionized and microclustered water, like the 11.5 pH produced by the Enagic SD-501 water ionizer, will work as the post cavitation cleaning agent. Thanks!

That is why we use our parasitic felt as a finish

Thanks for the comment. There is a difference between cleaning a record's surface and restoration, the latter, restoration, is designed to remove the release agent that is found in both new records as well as old pressings, and where in both instances where the dust and contaminants that are mico welded in the groove of the record by playing it is the undisputed cause of many of the clicks and pops we hear. Clicks and pops that increase over time. Simple cleanings leave films and hide these particles. A false sense is provided the audiophile. ... We restore, not just clean. A surface cleaning will not remove these clicks or pops or bring back for one's audition the exact mirror of the stamper. One needs to remember where using mechanical cleaning means and in applying water with or without a soap, both the record and the solution repells each other. Only a surface cleaning occurs. Further, the size of a water droplet is also larger than a groove which is the root cause of systems not cleaning the grooves. That is why we designed our process to temporarily change the charge of the record and attracting the wave caused by cavitation. This now pressing on the ionizing agent that we brush in the groove. This sees us remove contaminants from inside the groove. To illustrate our point. We frst attack the film left over by prior cleanings that has been dried on the record's surface by air or vacuum. Then we remove the release agent. This holds the micro welded dust that see the needle hit and cause the unwanted pops. ... With the films and release agent both now removed, now the needle makes full contact with the pressing. Fremer has mentioned as many others where we deliver what we say and restore the brilliance of the pressing. One also does see when there is nothing left to remove in our stepped process. To time, the benefit of our process may see one restore both sides of up to four records simultaneously. Something no other method can do, all the while showing you when each side of the record has nothing left to clean or remove from the groove. Our patents pending and patented process lets you be the judge and see when there is nothing left inside the groove to remove. Do refer to the images we have taken of records cleaned by a vacuum process and then followed by ours. As to efficiency, we offer the best return on your investment as to the very noticeable audio improvement, both for new and vintage pressings. ...For all records, the total time for groove restoration is between 12 and 25 minutes, both sides. As our records come out virtually dry as they should, there are no films left on the record as is the case with air or vacuum drying. No need for an air or vacuum drying which in their own introduce more dust and static to the record. We can of course just do a quick 2 minute clean. Not restoration. We concentrate and advertise restoration.

If you don't want to put the record on the microfibre cloth because it will transfer lint, why would you use the microfibre cloth to vigorously clean the brush which is then going to be used again on the record?

It usually takes 20 to 25 minutes on average to restore record grooves and clean it, this for 2 records handled simultaneously. To note, a three LP adapter is coming allowing 3 LP's to be restored in the same time. We cannot control the provenance of the record. We have proven at the many trade shows taking records brought in by audiophiles from their collections where previous cleaning methods used by visitors to our booth have not touched the grooves, sorry to say. Most systems used whether sonic or vacuum actually added more contaminants to the grooves. Proven using using a 3d microscope to measure the film's left in the grooves. A green light or vacuum motor stopping does not indicate grooves being cleaned. Even 8 times in a competitive sonic system and when the record is afterwards placed in our system and our process sees 4 cycles of 5 minutes I cannot say more. To note where even new pressings from Germany see 15 minutes, 20 to 25 for some US ones. To know when to stop the process, make sure to rinse and then pad dry the brush used between applications of surfactant, and to discard the brush after 60 records. We use the brush to see an increase and decrease of the contaminants being removed indicating end of process. Of concern. Records coated with Last or other protectants cannot use the standard recommended 5 minute cycles. Consult our web site to learn how to identify this. You will need 9 two minute cycles to strip these off as the coatings wash off the surfactant applied within minutes. If you used 5 minue cycles with a record coated with an agent you I am sure would therefore easily pass the 50 minute mark. With lots of beads of water visible, or sheets of water on a record, change to 2 minute cycles. Record now restored in 15 to 18 minutes. Two like coated records restored in the same time.

To clarify and help, the 70% of 1.4 ounces in 1.78 gallons of water firstly is not used to clean. It is to kill the live and dormant fungus that comes off the record. Contact with or breathing fungus is not good for one's health. The 70% is produced in a different fashion than diluting 90 plus percent In water, and while one may try to make 70% out of 99%, as we are dealing with an ionizing surfactant and need to promote the action of the surfactant, this is affected by 90 plus alcohols. The 2 are not made the same if we discount dilution. In any event, as to plastics and if you check the pvc compatibility chart the 70% in the diluted form of 1.4 ounces to 1.78 gallon ratio is negligible and does not affect the ploymerized pvc of the vinyl or the plasticizer. If one would use a higher concentration especially of 90 plus percent, say. 1/3 alcohol to 2/3 distilled water, or 1/4 to 3/4, that is certainly of concern and affects pvc.

Respectfully. One cannot do two sides simultaneously with a vacuum system. There are several systems out there. As vinyl repels water by nature the solutions applied to one side of a record at a time needs to see multiple applications of the cleaning solution to the record if we are to try to attempt to clean the surface of prior films left by prior cleaning agents. We have microscopic images of this where after 3 nechanucal and vacuum surface cleanings have not resulted in any groove cleaning, sorry to say. Send me an email and I will send you some slides. Added where vacuum brings dust into the record from surrounding air and depending on the velocity of the venturi pressure differential brings static onto the record.

1. Restoration of a Frank Sinatra Record. Mexico City Nov 2023 KirmussAudio event. Before restoration: Lots of noise. Crackles abound. Sound Muddled. The record was processed before in a 120 KHz ultrasonic. Processed 5 times. Before in a vacuum based cleaning system, so I was told. Video Before Kirmuss Processing: kzfaq.info/love/q6s2TT2s7SgZu_7F1D37SQ Video After Kirmuss Restoration: Increase in signal and frequency response, pops gone. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/lbiKaJN-rrbYhnU.html 2. From our record restoration event in Mexico City in front of Billboard Magazine and with an invitation only meeting of Discos two weeks ago held at the Margules factory, very nice of him, a record that was brought in that was processed prior with a vacuum cleaning system saw these results: Before Kirmuss; kzfaq.info-L2gIqQ3nok After Kirmuss: kzfaq.info_6_fhGWMBjM

Thanks for your opinion. The forum is for an exchange of ideas. Noted your point. Everyone has theirs. This said,...I do not beleive where you understand or appreciate the fact where our liquid agent is not a cleaner. It cannot be used by itself on a record. It cannot be used with a vacuum or other ultrasonic system. Or a manual cleaning. Whoever perhaps mentioned this to you does not understand what an ionizing agent is. And how it has to be specifically used. That is our Patent. Our process is different. Our spray is not a cleaner. To assist both you and our audience, No other process that we know of removes the record's release agent. Home to those unwanted pops. Do review videos as to how records are made. There is a reason why records "pop out of the stamper ". As analog expert Michsel Fremer has written, no one is seen spraying Pam onto the stampers at the pressing plant. To price and to restore the record grooves of 1 000 records, with our ionizing agent the consumables cost as it relates to our spray would cost you 140 to 283 USD. For processing 1000 . Very reasonable if we can restore a scratched and scuffed 60 year old pressing or new pressing, and bring both back to life. I am sure you have seen the images taken by our 2d 3d digital microscope and the measurements of groove size, detail and depth. Before and after. . Our restoration process with our ionizing agent, not a soap or cleaner, brings recordings to life by stripping out the release agent. Back to your point and setting the record straight, we cannot use our liquid as a cleaner with other machines and processes, and most respectfully stated, you wanted a solution for 10 cents a record. That would relate to $100 USD to clean and not restore 1,000 records. Small difference for the benefit of the bargain that our total process has to offer one... I trust you have a 500 $ and up turntable,??? We offer the best bang for the dollar. Why spend 3,000 USD on a new cartridge or upwards of 1,000 USD on a set of new silver turntable interconnect cables. Our restoration with our ionizing agent delivers... . Our solution when used only with our process and at 14 to 28 cents a record is the least affordable for gain guaranteed. That is the result we offer. Again and as a warning,...You cannot use our fluid with any other system or manually apply it as it is not a cleaner. It will not improve anything. You need to appreciate the fact where we with our machine and ionizing agent, not a soap, is the only method to remove the release agent from the pressing's grooves, offering you between a measured 1.4 dB to 4+ dB over floor of gain. You cannot compare this as a cleaner you buy. So granted your price comparison while flawed sees our agent, and considered as a consumable, in the restoration of 1000 records with a 40 to 148 USD difference over what you'd like is only a little more expensive. Over perhaps a year or two. If you restore 1000 records over that time period. In any event if you are familiar with our sales network, in the US alone we saw our authorized dealers sell over 2,200 systems last year. (2019). While none of your concern, we are proud to say where this month alone 171 sold in the last 2 weeks to our dealers, repeat sales. Even with the pandemic affecting all of us. Audiophiles and record custodians alike cannot be wrong as to what we offer them as an end result. ... ....but you are confusing matters with your flawed comparison, sorry to say. .as to lowest cost of ownership... We also have now the global blessing and validation of independent analog industry experts. Back to your insistence. ... I ask whether you are buying a cleaning solution liquid. If so, and for you to perhaps do a fair and just comparison, do ask any cleaner manufacturer considered to provide you with details as to what is their signal gain over floor that their cleaning solution offers. Also how many microns of release agents that their solution removes... I doubt very much they can guarantee anything. To explain better what we do, Please do visit one of our dealers and bring in a record, both new and vintage suggested. Then compare before and after. Some quality surface cleaning products cost you 45 cents per record. I trust you know this. Very expensive... Confirming again, we restore while others try to clean or polish. Audio manufacturers such as Jeff Rowland Design, Audio Note, Grand Prix turntable, Helix, Yamaha Canada among others use our process to restore records brought to their studios at global audio shows by audiophiles such as you. The reason why they do this is very obvious. Cellist Vincent Belanger among other musicians use our process to restore their new pressings before autographing them. Vincent's sound engineer validates the gain of 1.3 to 1.4 dB over floor on their new German pressings. This as well as turntable manufacturer Oracle. ...None of these above mentioned industry peers has any relationship to our Company. This stated, we all love music. That is why we are on the business. My company is there to help you restore the brilliance of your records, new and vintage, never before heard when the time comes We are confident of the results...thank you for allowing us to better explain the difference between cleaning and restoration. Cleaning soaps and ionizers. So, as a summary and while you may perhaps still not think where an extra 4 to 18 cents per record is worth it to you, may I strongly suggest as where you are seemingly keen about this pastime, suggest to you in not upgrading your turntable or to to e arm, you do visit one of our dealers and use our ultrasonic record groove system with our ionizing agent used with our process. You will hear the difference immediately. Apologize for taking extra time in responding to your comparison as our ionizing agent is not a cleaner, rather , it facilitates our system to remove first surface films then the release agent which has the microwelded pops embedded in the grooves. Of course we cannot please everyone, but we do guarantee the increase in signal resulting in a more spacious soundstage and improved timbre, quoting Audio Engineer Andre Jennings.

We did not release yet the 3lp accessory

Only use distilled water, de ionized is not the same as to purity. U may consult many sites regarding this.

A shot glass (1.5 Oz) is perfectly sized for measuring the isopropyl alcohol

Wow, probably a great machine, but hell, after all of those applications could probably get damn near same results from use of Spin Clean and Vinyl Vac. But the lab coat is readon we should listen!

More and more brand new records seem to have excessive surface noise, hiss, ticks, pops, crackles where my other new records are fine. Can the cleaner assist with this surface noise/hiss?

De ionized water does not have all the nutrients of bacteria removed. Speak to our staff in the UK. www.kirmussaudio.net

Sometimes when I watch videos like this as an audiophile, I start to think we’re all sociopaths (except our sociopathy doesn’t hurt anybody) 😅

Is this THE cleaning machine right now?

What other surfactant do you recommend with your machine ?

It probably works, but who the heck is going to take this amount of time and trouble?. Twenty minutes, maybe more, to clean an LP. I can't believe the guy keeps a straight face as he starts yet another 5 minute cycle, HOPING that 3 cycles is enough on this occasion. And gallons of liquid bite the dust.

4 clean records in 2 minutes. 4 restored records in 25 to 30 minutes simultaneously restored.

We do not have an insert to do more 45's or 78's. Response to the availability of an insert to restore four 45's at a time was not that positive. To make new molds is a serious investment. Your request has been noted.

Ringo Star! Michael must not be totally sold on it yet??? This guy sounds like he knows what he's talking about??? Definately a great rep. Was he one of the engineers? Or more on the marketing side? Ill never be able to afford this. I only have 50 lps, mas o menos, but I find it all very interesting. I know I kinda troll Michael by comparing him to Lou Reed. But im being completely honest and mean no disrespect. He's not as wrecked looking as Lou got later in life. He and John Cale made some really groundbreaking music and sound. Love Transformer also. I Need to get that one again. Anyway, I look forward to seeing if this becomes the record cleaner for Audiophiliacs to get :^)

Thanks for your comment! We had a before and after clip on the web. It is being redacted to include restoration of Edison cylinders in our new product as well as lacquers and transcripts. Do you have a dealer that could assist nesrby,? At the major global audio shows, bring us a record. We play the before and after of any record brought us. Contact us for the name of a dealer nesr you that would gladly restore a record in front of you. Do read the July 2019 issue of Stereophile and the results noted by Mr. Mr. Fremer on 2 records he used to test our process. His words at the RMAF 2019 panel (video) reports his results. Yes hearing is believing. Hope you have a dealer nearby. We do guanantee your results. You can both hear and measure them.

A simple wash is 2 minutes. If you want to pick up the imagery as witnessed and reported on by Michael Fremer after a year of testing, we remove all contaminants from the grooves. In 2 or 5 minute cycles. Several records at a time usually taking 20 to 25 minutes. Noted your comment. Over 2,000 audiophiles and music lovers have bought our product in just over a year. Even audio manufacturers such as Jeff Jeff Rowland Design, Yamaha Canada, Oracle turntables all use our process on their records before use in their own listening rooms at global audio trade shows. Again, while not for everyone, at less than $1,000 pur process provides immediate results over buying cartridges that are over $4,000, change out tone arms at $8,000, adding silver cables at $2,000. Obviously not for everyone. Guaranteed to even improve imagery and timber from even a basic entry level turntable coupled to a modest or restored vintage low cost system. Everyone has their opinion. The extra effort removing release agent and contaminants from recent as well as records that are 40 plus years old is well worth it. To note current processes have been found to leave residues, we also remove these.

Just received my Kirmuss restoration device. No matter how long I let it cool, when I turn it on the red led is lit. The small one on the far right also lights up within 1-2 minutes. Room temperature is 23C. Any tips?

Very wise to wear a lab coat to not wet by accident your Hong Kong tailored shirt and dress pants.

I have 100% isopropyl, so 30ml instead of 40ml should be OK?

We do not put the record on a lint free micro fiber cloth. We suspend the record on a lint free, dust free circular pad that we supply , or offer a the same 5 inch pad with an optional support made by a company called Stable 33.33. Model called a Transit 7000... With the latter accessory, the record sits 1 inch above the work area. It also spins. ...The workstation rabbit cloth protects the work table, the record does not touch the record. ...Added, we use this same cloth to pad dry the goat hair brush between applications of the ionizing surfactant to the record's surface and in this application as we are now changing the state of charge of the record thus accepting now the plasma wave to work on the grooves themselves, by now pad drying the goat hair brush with the rabbit microfiber cloth thus drying the brush between applications of our ionizing surfactant (not alcohol), we see better the initial rise and then the fall and also the rapid evaporation of the whitish toothpaste like materials that were softened by the sonic and disturbed and brought out by the brush.... thus giving us the visual validation where there are no contaminants or release agent left in the record grooves. Groove restoration now accomplished ...end of process.... part of our patented process. Works for both newly pressed and vintage records.

The slots accommodate 180 and 200 g records. Room to spare.

Agree with general sentiment here: 20-30min to clean a record is a non-starter aside from exceptional and dirty finds (like some old mono blue note). I was looking at this video because I was about to order the machine. Would be helpful to understand how well this works vs. vac machine if we only do a single 5 min cycle. I only have at most 2 hours at most to listen every day, mainly because I need to work like a dog to afford my record and hifi addiction! This extended process is simply unrealistic for daily listening.

Two other things I would do differently are first: never let a microfiber cloth anywhere near a record at all, even as just a drip towel. Why? Because of what you said about the 'lint.' This material sheds plastic fibers like mad and I had to find out the hard way about the danger that microfiber poses to vinyl records. Just a few of these lint fibers on a record can gunk up your stylus and cause distortion, and worse case the the needle jumps the grooves, skips and skids. I would only use a new very fine-weave cotton towel that you shake out real good and it must not have gone through your washer/dryer ever. (The center elevation with a fur pad is a good a idea here.) Second, I would cut the amount of alcohol used to 3/4 or half the 40 ml you suggest, as it is still a solvent, and with different vinyl formula over the years there may be the chance of records having less resistance to damage from contact with *any* amount of alcohol. Also, I would have two goat hair brushes: one for surfactant, and one for plain water or dabbing. I use a similar system with my 45 record restoration technique. Plus you have to be very careful applying a fluid to only one side of 12" record, especially thinner pressings, as doing this just begs these discs to warp. You've got to be quick and use as little fluid as possible. From 40+ years of collecting and cleaning experience.

Any static. Anti fungal, 4 mil HDPE with or without a sandwiched alkaline and not rice paper. The latter adds more rigidity.

Seems to me if you already own a vaccum based RCM you could use this system and then just use the vaccum RCM to suck up the distilled water used in the final rinse so you're not hand drying it , no ?

I like how you worked in that caveat where he is "Drafted" into cleaning your entire collection as part of the demo! Always Be Closing! A very thorough process. But, if you have say....30,000 records l(ike somebody we know) he will be there till the end of time watching those bubbles cavitate. I mean, I thought I was anal in my cleaning process. Geez. Not a criticism, just an observation. P.S. I now understand that this is a restoration process, not just a cleaning process. I stand corrected. Thank you for the demonstration.

Try contacting our UK office at www.kirmusssudio.net. Here in North America a US gallon goes for 1 US Dollar. Our peers in Europe all recommend distilled water. Deionized water here costs 8 US dollars a gallon. Yet, it is not as pure as distilled water. Our grocery stores, aquarium shops, corner pharmacies sell distilled water at the price mentioned.

By the time it is done I would have got bored of the idea of playing a record and gone off and done something else instead :p

OK, I'm sold. Do I get one of those rabbits?

In most instances no.

Aren’t you supposed to wash a record after applying a surfactant? I use Tergikleen and the tell you you must wash the record after using it. You apply it last without a rinse.

Ok for a handful of records, will take ages if you have a few hundred/thousand records. $890 on Amazon. Not as pricey as I was expecting. Was expecting $2k. Still a lot of work but prob worth it if you have a 20k system

Give us a call and we can direct you.

Before and after sound demonstration missing. Thats what I'd have to hear

Seriously, we can supply you with a lab coat if you order a system from one of our local dealers.

This is sounding like bs, well I wouldn't put rubbing alcohol that probably got it is at 70% contains other substances like oils. There's nothing wrong with 99% isopropanol as long as you don't exceed 10% of the entire mix but instead I would use AdBlue instead what is 32% urine 68% deionized water you can get it from petrol stations put in diesel cars for the emissions, and a few drops of hair conditioner wouldn't go amiss either but make sure it's salt free. Is it an ultrasonic sonic cleaner? I think they're bad for your records will damage them over time could cause microscopic cracking. After cleaning and drying Spray your record with a dry silicone lubricant like ttd ds100 a very pure silicone lubricant. Just a gentle spray put a pencil in the record spin it then spray vertically. Ethylene glycol is very poisonous toxic I wouldn't be spraying in the air specially if you're clean a lot of Records can cause nervous damage even death even in smallish quantities. Why don't you make a container for the brush that has a exuberant sponge and you can just dip the brush in it would be better than spraying it in the air not sensible is it. clearly you're wearing that doctors coat for comic effect.

Now i underdstand how Michel gets the money to buy a 170 thousend Dollar turntable

So before you play it, wet the record with surfactant, drag my $5000 stylus through a wet record? Why even dry the record if you have to wet it before playing it?

I used one for 1 week now and the result is very disappointing. Not only it takes ages to clean records I spent 1,5 h to clean 2 records and still there was crack sounds on the records. Then I pushed the brush a bit harder to clean better witch resulted in scratches so the records we´re destroyed. In another video he says: "One 9 $ bottle lasts for 300 records" That´s the biggest lie I heard in HiFi business. The bottle costs bout 25 $ in Europe and lasted me for 5-6 records so it´s terrible expensive too!

this is way... too time consuming for me.

All vinyl is not created equal. PVC is only one ingredient and while that may hold up to heat how does one know the other vinyl ingredients will hold up as well? There are countless vinyl recipes in existence and each manufacturer over the decades probably has or had multiple recipes. So unless every vinyl recipe on planet earth has been tested in a 95 degree ultrasonic bath of water/alcohol combination and then tested thereafter year after year after year, etc.. for (loss of) sonic quality, it seems factually impossible to make a blanket statement that isopropol alcohol will not damage your vinyl. How could anyone possible know that? Good luck.

I do not believe that Mr. Kirmuss is a chemical engineer, otherwise he would know that vinyl records made since the 1960's is more chemically resistant than the cleaning references that he quotes from the 1960's. Those references are for the 78's that were previously made and still prevalent at the time. Also, ethylene glycol can be used as a wetting agent, but it is not a soap. On any vinyl record made in the past 50+ years, you can use a stronger solution of alcohol, and instead of ethylene glycol, it is more advisable to use a soap and then thoroughly rinse with distilled water. Shake off excess water, dry with a clean towel, and use a discwasher to take off the residual fibers.

I would only buy this if the cleaning solution was $20.00 and enough to clean 200 records. Three is no way in hell I and many others are going to pay $85.00 for enough solution to clean 60 to 100 records. Dude you want to sell you device give a life time supply of cleaning solution that is 99% distilled water and 1% what?. What a fucking joke.

risky to scratch the record, little space.

Nice system and Lab coat, but being a ex DJ with over 5000 albums this is not for me. I've been using a Vevor complete album cleaning system with a DYI filtration system and it works wonders, and all for about 185.00 out the door. And you can clean 8 albums at one time! 1 Year warranty plus the added guarantee of purchasing about 6 of the Vevor systems for the price of the unit on this demo...

I agree with your methodology and approach to cleaning 12" vinyl using ultrasonics' to remove contamination, but I personally would recommend doing some of your preparation much differently, namely not ever using a "circular" motion to scrub record groves (like if you were cleaning your floor); it drove me nuts watching you do that in your presentation. I talk with the authority of a lifelong collector, starting in a high school radio station in the 1970's up to today, and that is that you only follow the grooves cleaning and never try to wipe away from or towards the center. I see it is just an application phase for the cleaning solution, but you are busting a protocol on standard care methods. I don't think you are doing the record any favors that way. See my next post.

People who say this isn't worth it are ignorant, you're missing all of the sonic benefits you'd get with one of these, you can do a far more deeper clean with one of these then anything else, upscale audio has a demo of them using a vpi turn table after cleaning records with this thing, and their truly silent... I have a spin clean which works decent and is really the second best way to clean your records besides this thing, from what ive seen with this, it would still be an improvement.....

In in

I ask only one question because I believe in your product. $1000.00 plus. Be honest now! What is your profit margin on this machine? Make me feel like the industry is supporting its fans and not laughing all the way to the bank. I’m not Analog Planet so my endorsement probably won’t generate huge sales, so just for the hell of it , give it to me straight and honest and justify money I work very hard for!

Michael have you no shame, I hope you’re not making him clean up all you’re albums? Just kidding! I didn’t hear what kind of sleeve should you use to store the albums? When ou get a chance, thanks...

OK, my problem with this is the 70% Isopropyl alcohol. The other 30% has impurities that distinguish it by law not to be drinkable. If you read the other ingredients, I think we should be leery of their use with vinyl. Why not use 99% Isopropyl and more water?

We have proven resoundly using science and measurements where all other processes even if run for 40 minutes do nothing to remove the release agent found in grooves of 40 year old records or newly pressed ones. We are not cleaning, we are removing the release agent from the grooves taking 25 to 27 minutes to do 2 or 3 lp's, or 4 records , fir the end result, this is not much to ask. Better result than buying a 300$ silver phono interconnect cable or $5000 cartridge. In response, using a vacuum for 40 minutes, or spin clean for the same time or an hour with other sonics only surface cleans, and even where after these processes leaves a film on the record and in the grooves. If you wish to surface cleanva record, use our system for 5 minutes. Then polish. .... So not bad for our process of average 25 minutes restoring multiple records that gives you 1.5 db increase on a newly pressed record to upwards of 3 or more on a vintage pressing. ...You cannot compare our groove restoration system with other cleaners, they are just that, surface cleaners. Other processes will not remove coatings applied such as LAST, etc.. Do read the recommendations of both professional custodians, artists, engineers and music lovers and their experience. Do ask Jeff Rowland Design, Audio Note, Yamaha Canada, Oracle turntables about what their experience has been. These manufacturers with over 130 years total presence use our process to restore, and not just surface clean their own records and those of their clients that they use to promote their own audio products at shows. Nothing to do with the promotion of our process or equipment. Respectfully, With over 2,000 sold in a year we are a movement. No other manufacturer shows before and after images of grooves processed or talks about signal gain or makes available technical data, complementing one's audition ...Remember, thanks to the previously discrete release agent that we discovered, this allows us to remove contaminants that causes those clicks and pops that have been micro welded into the release agent by the heat of the needle , and now removed, the air, breath, imagery of the vinyl restored...

This is all overly complicated. I would rather use a quicker system so that I have more time to listen to the music.

Wait a sec, did my eyes see correctly? Is this machine only 1000 thousand dollars??? Thats very affordable. I still wont be buying one... not at this time at least.

If Fremer is involved, it's not surfactant, it is snake oil. Should have teamed up with with somebody trustworthy. Why are you not using a $30 000.00 power cord to run your cleaner? lol