How do you compete, one thing service service and service

I will never purchase anything from Amazon due to their anticompetitive practices

Do you have any more steel bikes like this that your looking on which would be up for sale soon? Saw that you were selling this too late.

What was the internal width of these wheels? Should I use the 19mm or 22mm for a Bontrager Aeolus Pro51 with internal width of 23mm?

I have been living and working all the things you said. Our stories are actually quite similar...

"...without further ado let's dive into this!" beings at 1:41

My dad handed me down this bike. I am wondering what the seat post diameter is? 27.0 or 27.2? Thanks

My wife has a Cannondale Treadwell that is like a grown up cruiser bmx bike, just like that. It's light, reliable, and really fun to ride. She commutes to her office on it.

I've got a non-step through Roll... Bought a new take off set of wheels and put studs on one set and slightly thinner tires on the other. All season rolling now:) I also got rid of that seat and those handlebars for a less "cuppy" seat and some VO granola bars. I agree, it's just fun and actually performs pretty well. The Marin Larkspur is just as fun.

I don't think cleaning will hurt but it's a good time to start teaching eye protection. Glad to see her helping.

I have the dropbar version and love it. Upgraded to compressionless housing and the braking is much better. Changed the front chainring to a 44 from the 38 and it gave me the little extra on the top end that was much needed for the flatter areas. Overall great bike!

I had comp version, built like a tank, but heavy.l think they used Hugi design hubs. Great reliable wheels!

I own 03' zurich pro team, still best frame ever made in my opinion. 18Ibs built with full carbon fork and upgrades.

I have a 2002 5200 triple in Smoke Carbon finish that I bought new 22 yrs ago. I’m in the process of overhauling it and scored a N.O.S. Dura Ace BB 7703 on EBay that I’m installing. The original BB felt notchy and a tiny bit gritty inside so I wanted to upgrade it. After removing it it didn’t feel notchy anymore so I think it might have been over torqued when it was built originally. Looking forward to my first ride on it in who knows how long.

WISDOM sought. I have the opportunity to trade a $350 camera for a $200 GT ZR3000 with the Shimano 105 hardware. Am I getting a good deal? Or can I find just as good, as well as new at a big box store?

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Appreciate the authenticity and truth telling.

I really liked riding my 2003 Zurich when I had it. Currently rebuilding a Versailles while riding a Croix de Fer.

Love my Campy Veloce 9 speed bikes!

When does a LBS say F it and reach out to winspace, farsports and LTwoo and say Give me good margins and parts availability - i will rep your uci approved gear in the USA? If Trek is going to evil empire you - then screw them.

Trek dealers in bigger markets can switch to smaller brands, but there's a really good chance that Trek will open a corporate store, taking a bunch of those customers away. Listen, we are doing this to ourselves. We embraced imported goods, and we praised the 'disruptors' who discovered that, by turning careers into low-wage, dead-end jobs, they could enrich themselves. This is a continuation of that, but more perverse, because most bike shop jobs were already dead-end jobs that can't support a normal, adult lifestyle. Specialized couldn't stand that its dealers were making money, so they began the process of eliminating them. Trek sees that the door has been kicked open, and they're happy to walk right through. Ultimately, the goal is the same amount of money spent on cycling, with less of it going to workers.

Don't expect to just pop in and out of I Know A Guy's shop. This man has the gift of gab!

In the past, the bike business had a wide diversity of suppliers, products, and retailers. Those wild, fun days are ending. The Treks, Shimanos, and Pearl Izumis will dominate. They will have pricing power. Like other mature industries, consumers will have fake choices. (Accord or Camry?) Unspoken price fixing will prevail.

The Lemonds had the best geometry and ride of the road bikes that came out of Trek. The Treks were a Trek. The Kleins were Kleins. But all the years and miles that Greg Lemond had in the saddle showed up in his bikes. You could ride them all day and still be fresh at the end of the day. Making that long decent worth the work. The handling with these is so natural it's almost like a dream. With new wheels even at $1500( especially considering it wasn't used much) it's a bargain for long recreational rides. The triple has a wide range of gears and no real penalties . I can get 30mm tires in my Zurich ( I don't remember the clearance for ths bike, but it probably had clearance for 28mm tubulars for the spring classics ,yeah old school tubular paves were what I used ) 28 mm should be just fine for a modern set of wide alloy rims and 28mm tires ....worth the investment, because the ride is timeless. Seem to remember this road very nice too since the fork and stays were well dampened for the road shcck.

A lot of this started with the manufacturers catering to the elite buyers and forgot about the grassroots riders. The blue collar under 50k a year family. Now people even the elites arent buying the $14k bikes. We want these companies to market to the consumers that can afford the sub $500.00 bikes. Look at Walmart and Kent bikes. All over 150.00 for the bikes. No less than 250.00 for their higher end bikes. This is why I stick with used bikes and recondition and flip them for a fraction of the retail price.

The Rolf wheels the rear ones just fail period....pretty much a design flaw. It not so much a matter of them being overtensioned. It's that the rim couldn't handle proper tension, especially with the spokes paired and so close together. Just use it as a bargaining chip when buying because you will need a new rear wheel at the minimum and probably a front if not now certainly down the road. The thing is with the relatively low spoke count you need the extra tension to compensate or reduce your weight to 120 pounds.

I rode the wheels off of my white Diamond Back Viper. Parents paid $130 in the early 80s. I remember the Super Viper being out of reach (I believe it was around $175). Strangely, my bike came in white but the internet databases only show it available in chrome, black, blue. I repainted mine pink and went racing. Undefeated in the beginner class 😂.

Can I ask you a question please. I inherited one of these 8 ball bikes and it is almost like new....has the checkered wheels and all..very well cared for...have paperwork and all too. What would you say is a going price for one of these? I dont ride it at all so its gathering dust....I just need a reasonable starting price on it...Thanks, Steve

Beautiful job. I would definitely ride that bike. Hope it goes to a good owner.

I must be lucky. My local trek dealer spent an hour with me, making sure i got the right size. Gooddales in Nashua NH. Super friendly staff and helpful.

Looks awesome man!! That chrome really pops in the sun😎 Hyper Cleanse and an old toothbrush works great on older grips..

I love long distance biking 300-500m For the last 30y I have owned couple different Brand's but the last 10 years I had Specialized. All I can say love the way the fitting on me Is kind off become one with it This year tested the new Sirrus 5.0 short story I fall in love Of course Money matters but this is the one :) BTW Im not in to every year new bike this is for the next 5 to10 years. Personally I can understand the Bike industry thought Specialized is keeping their consumer products in cosistence quality and that counts. Small bike shops many of them Have become greedy with disapointing repairs which most of the time I rather pay for and never got back Its a 50-50 situation!!

Trek needs to fail so the industry can survive.

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I agree completely that this move by Trek will hurt what may be left of independent Trek dealers. As a former Trek dealer (bike shop owner) and also working for David's World back in the day, I realized much too late that the bicycle distributers did not give a flip about the dealers that bought their bicycles. The profit margins on bicycles ranged anywhere from -2% to 3% tops and it was the bicycles that tied up all of your capital and precious rented floor space! With the consumer buying direct the abilty to cushion the blow by the customer buying a pair of shorts or anything else just went out the window. You are aslo correct that to survive you must be your own brand. I knew that from the beginning, but I succumbed the the theory of you must grow or die (larger store more bikes floored).

Bikes in general have become more expensive with lower quality components. I feel bad for the local bike shops that struggle, but I won’t pay full price for what is being offered now. On top of that, small bikes generally have to be special orders, meaning full price and no ability to try the bike before buying it. Bikes today are too expensive for that.

Do all this ultegra shifters have work with a triple chain ring or do you need to get triple specific? Thanks

Built a bunch of Jamis road bikes the Satellite was also nice....always an enjoyable test ride.

Global bikes in AZ dropped specialized and brought on trek because of their decision to go consumer direct. Talk about out of the frying pan Into the fire.

Good video, thanks for putting this together even though on vacation. I was texting back and forth with a guy in Winnipeg from the shop I worked at until February. We've both been following along on these developments.

What effect do you think this has on mid size and boutique brands that don't have direct to consumer sales? Will Trek, specialized, and the online only brands (canyon, polygon, etc.) disrupt dealer networks to a point where small to midsize companies no longer have a sales outlet if they don't sell online?

I don’t think going to online sales will help Trek much. Their bikes are overpriced boat anchors. In the world of xc and racing, bike weight vs price is one of the first things I’m looking at. Sub 25lbs bike at Trek, Supercaliber 24.65 lbs $8999 Canyon Lux 22lbs $6999. Would never buy a Trek- they lost their trail cred:/

Why are Trek and Specialized so valuable to local bike shops? Do many shops believe they wouldn't survive without them? Several bike shops in my area do not carry either brand. One has Marin, Felt, and Scott. Another only carries more obscure Italian brands, such as Basso. I think the reputation of the bike shop is much more valuable than the brands they carry, like you said Justin. I own an older Raleigh competition road bike and a Bianchi endurance/sport bike. I purchased the latter from the Italian bike shop because it was one of the few inexpensive bikes in 2001 that came with Campagnolo, and the mechanic knew how to do certain modifications to Campy. I have cerebral palsy on the right side of my body, so I can't use the right brake lever or brifter. The mechanic was able to set up the left brifter, so it would control the rear derailleur. I am able to shift a bar end shifter with my right hand to control the 3x derailleur. The mechanic now owns the shop, and he is still open-minded about unusual set ups. Not all bike shops are willing to do weird stuff Bike shops, that are willing to make modifications, are invaluable to me regardless of what brands they carry. This move by Trek may make it easier to bring a Trek to my favorite shop, if I decide I to buy one.

I have the orginal poseidon x before the ambition. Awesome bike i love it. I did swap the brakes on mine and i have the dropbar version. I'm glad you did the comparison to Ozarka trail bike because i was curious how the two stacked up against each other. Great video. Poseidon also has a mountain bike called Norton hope you get one to share your thoughts and comparison.

I miss my friends in the bike industry but definitely don’t miss working in the industry.

I use a threaded bar, washers and coupling bolts for the press.

Well, I know for me, I love being able to have bikes shipped to my door. I live in the middle of nowhere, and the nearest shop with any selection is about 3 hours away. I'm not traveling 6 hours to buy a bike. I appreciate your breakdown of a couple companies and their history. It was interesting and I can't believe how fast 55 minutes went by.

This kinda feels like how Apple has been doing big stock buybacks. Basically taking back control of their business.

I really love this video. As a guy who's just getting back into mountain biking, I've been super fortunate to find an extremely good local shop. These videos make me proud to continue supporting them. It's sad to see what's happened to all the local bike shops over the years. I hope those who excel at service and advice will find a way to survive.

My biggest takeaway from all this is that neither consumers nor brands understand the value of the local bike shop anymore. Not sure how we walk that back. Service won’t pay the bills in a retail space for small markets and the pool of knowledgeable employees for better customer service in a constantly changing industry is rare nowadays even for specialty shops. The effects won’t be immediately seen so look forward to the synopsis in a few years 😂 Honestly, it’s amazing bike shops have outlasted every other retailer in existence. There was a reason for that, it’s community which has been under attack for past few years 😮