no. we get no party members of then mintara for not siding with the druids. and even then, there are ways to get her while siding with the druids even without mods via non lethal attacks.

What white cat is that? I missed it

Wait there’s evidence that some people in the grove already know? 😮 like what?

@@camerondundale811 So apologies but I realized that I had misremembered a book called _the evil eye_ as being exclusive to the druid area of the game for some reason. I've updated the comment Without that there is no _direct_ evidence that anyone would know Ethel is a hag. There is some circumstantial evidence, mind you For one that book, along with another (A brush with evil: on hags) spawn all over the Druid's library and enclave. They both outline dealing with hags and given how dangerous hags can be and where green hags like to inhabit it would be extremely bizarre for the druids to have no knowledge of hags and their habits There's also the fact that the meeting place for the shadow druids cannot be reached (afaik) without going through the hag's swamp. And druids have pretty decent rolls when it comes to perception since they have high wisdom. Meaning at the very least the shadow druids would know there's a hag in the area, and it seems likely Kagha may have as well. And a hag in the area is not something anyone would typically be taking lightly. Even if the shadow druids opted to let Ethel cause as much chaos as possible The fact that Ethel is, essentially, the only "human" in the grove, and the only person in the grove not concerned about goblins, or of being turned out by the druids, or completing the ritual, _and_ that she sells "lotions and potions" of an extremely rare and valuable variety makes her stick out like a sore thumb. From a dnd perspective it seems somewhat odd none of the tieflings suspected her either given I think hags play a major role in the economics of the hells but that's just conjecture Given what she did to the one tiefling with the paralyzed legs combined with all the other red flags I'm not sure why no one has confronted Ethel before we got there

I agree with you, but Isobel is a half-elf. （Half high elf）It's marked in her status.

where about ?

@@davidbocock7679 There's a little graveyard just outside the inn's protection. Cast Speak with Dead on Marcus and he'll tell you where to find it. Even then, I think there's a dice check to pass when you get to the grave.

@@jameshealan2881 you don’t need to cast speak with dead on him, you just need to pass the check when you are near the hidden grave. But I’ve passed the check every time so far

If they allow mods on consoles. They make another 500m, and the heart of gamers for another 20 years

@@quasarsword7479 That is coming! In september. They want to make sure it will run smoothly hence the extra time.

Act 1. It’s near the beginning of the Underdark. You need to go out through the window in the chapel. Just be warned, the fight before this dialogue can be difficult if you aren’t well-prepared and properly-leveled.

@@Existentialist649 thank you 🤗 I did that already but I think I just had a different scenario then😅

@@c0nfused_cookie No problem! I reckon that means it’s time for another play through.

You can trigger the fight using ranged weaponry on statues from the chapel window itself which can give you a bit of an advantage on the spectator Just be mindful of you haven't triggered the enemy at the gate already there is a chance he'll break through and then it's a real party The Drow have a high chance of dying during the battle if you don't micromanage them a bit so be prepared for that. Dhourn is the only one that needs to survive for the cutscene iirc

They wouldn't have said anything about it at all, because the game can only have dialog for a certain situation if the developers anticipated it. Since Aunty Ethel was never meant to be killable in the grove, they wouldn't have made dialog reflecting that happening.

Yeah it should be