1585: 17-Year-Old Ponzi Scheme Mastermind & Ex-Con Ian Bick

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00:00 - MAPS Giveaway
01:17 - How does a 17-year-old kid get three years in prison?!
07:24 - Why he was not driven by money as a kid.
08:10 - The dangers and consequences of chasing popularity and likes.
11:27 - Blame me, not my parents.
14:55 - Why he liked the buildup to the parties, not the actual parties.
17:42 - From house parties to nightclubs, the next evolution of his business.
22:14 - Feeling like the King of Danbury High School.
28:22 - The next steps to getting attention and building his likeness.
31:37 - The critical moments leading to the unraveling of his legitimate business.
55:10 - The point when things start to get shady.
1:07:47 - The series of unfortunate events leading to being caught.
1:21:00 - When the law becomes aware of the situation.
1:25:13 - His focus now post-prison sentence.
1:30:27 - What was the ultimate high and low of this experience?
1:37:46 - Why prison is everything you hear about on TV, but it's not.
1:44:40 - What opportunities does he foresee post documentary?
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Ian Bick (@ian_bick) on Instagram
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@lukascoburn863 3 жыл бұрын

went out for a "15 minute walk" and threw this on, returned home 1 hour later lol now im finishing the story here!!

@perezsammy 3 жыл бұрын

The HBO documentary was awesome but after this interview my views on him definitely changed. He’s definitely a good kid who had good intentions but went about it all the wrong way. Like you guys said there’s definitely two roads he can take now. If he does things honestly and does right by everyone, who knows what amazing things this guy can do. I just hope that once he gets a taste of the fame and popularity and gets put on a pedestal again that he doesn’t revert back to the teen aged Ian Bick. However, I do believe he’ll be put under a microscope moving forward. I would like to see a series telling the whole story more in depth such as how this interview went. Great interview boys.

@SquiresEntertainment 3 жыл бұрын

Appreciate the shout out Ian 🙏🏻 amazing podcast guys! I’ve known Ian forever and dudes heart is in the right place! The Tuxedo Junction era was a special one 😂 that Steve Aoki show was an absolute sardine fest 😂😂😂

@maeganrae 3 жыл бұрын

I really love the humility of this guy. It's obvious his street smarts are way beyond his age because of all he went through but he's not afraid to admit where he made mistakes. He's also really honest about the temptations of doing these stuff again, but I really love the answer he had about hosting concerts again and stuff -- how he should first rebuild his reputation and trust again before he delve back into that area of his life. I would so wanna see a tv series on his life!

@Alice-lai 3 жыл бұрын

This is another great interview, you weren’t lying when you said your next 5 interviews are you best ones and I can’t wait till the other ones comes out! You guys are so good at asking questions during these interviews! The story was definitely interesting and this kid is hella smart! Hope he does get a series out of it, it would be so interesting! So glad I found your podcast through fitness stuff I was looking up too! Always leaning heaps from you all! :)

@TheEssentialReads 3 жыл бұрын

Guys! These past interviews have been amazing! You guys just keep getting better and better

@ftballmvp99 3 жыл бұрын

This was probably one of my favorite episodes. I have listed to this podcast for a while, and this was a great mix of content! Ian had some major drive, and I think he just got caught up in some bad business that he didn't think would happen.

@khairommuzaffarbinbaharom6405 3 жыл бұрын

This is easily one of the best interview on mind pump!! Love the guy and the way he explains the story and stuff. Good job guys!

@boonster1970 3 жыл бұрын

Ian’s story is insane! I’m excited to watch the documentary! Thanks for the interview guys, keep it up! Great episode!

@lavishlex 6 ай бұрын

What documentary?

@mutenroshi1163 3 жыл бұрын

I am a 19-year-old College student, and I can relate to Ian’s high school experience. Similar to Ian, I, too, was caught in the vicious cycle of seeking validation externally instead of internally. Instead of focusing on myself and getting a good GPA, I would waste time wondering what I can do to get everyone’s attention. Wearing bizarre outfits and breaking the rules were deeply ingrained habits for me. This behavior and attitude of trying to be the coolest kid in my class slowly consumed me, and I am now paying the price for it. It led to very low self-esteem and other insecurities, which could have been avoided if I didn’t make stupid mistakes and decisions growing up. When college began, I started cultivating the Self-Improvement mindset, and that is how I stumbled upon your KZfaq channel. Your content has been inspirational, not just because of all the videos pertaining to Fitness, but because you guys cover topics that lead to general wellbeing and living a better life. With that said, my situation is nowhere as bad as Ian’s. But I firmly believe that people can completely change and right their wrongs. After watching this podcast, it is clear that Ian has matured and adopted responsibility and embraced his past as a part of him instead of completely neglecting it. So, did Ian do something wrong? Yes. But does that make him a bad person? Absolutely not.

@mutenroshi1163 3 жыл бұрын

What do you guys think?

@brodiegriffin_is_Ozzy Жыл бұрын

@@mutenroshi1163 a little late , I just stumbled into this channel from Ians own channel which I found through yet another . I don't disagree with anything you said , I think it's a mental mindset aswell , you need a strong one to begin with or find a way to develop one . I had a crap upbringing in group homes/orphanages... you get 3 meals a day & adult supervision but it's sterile & you're on your own pretty much , that's why a lot of kids from those places abuse drugs , go to prison or are dead . I skated on thin ice with drugs & the law . 18th birthday present is $20 & a public transport ticket to anywhere in your region , your out & no longer the governments problem or expense with no real prep for the real world . After 18months of drugs police interaction & a few court dates at 20 I 180ed & joined the Army , met my wife & served 8 years in the Army . I'm by no means an adjusted adult , I know criminals , 1% bikie gang members are some of my good friends but I don't do crime or drugs etc.... I developed what I call a moral compass , I don't lie cheat or steal but have no quarms about beating a pedophile , granny basher , wife abuser etc.... It would be a crime but in my mind justified & never touch another mans wife , wallet or kids . Sorry man , went down a rabbit hole & vented a little . Yes agree with fly out comment , good in you for recognising & working on your own flaws / weaknesses & the betterment of your life 👏👏 . Keep up the work , 1% improvement per day is 3.5 months to a 100% better you & reset the meter 3 more months etc....

@alexeivernyi2910 3 жыл бұрын

So close to 100k subs!!!!!!! Glad to see it and amazing pod episode!

@notme1255 3 жыл бұрын

Just got MAPS starter because my homemade routine wasn't cutting it anymore. Can't wait to start on this one TODAY 🙂 I've already got HBOMax so my husband and I will be checking out the documentary later. Thank you guys so much!

@luxuryFean 3 жыл бұрын

I love that you guys are so positive and real and energetic all the time. You make my day always.

@sushantshankar6917 3 жыл бұрын

This was a really interesting interview! Reminded me of Catch you if you can. (I'd love Maps Anywhere if I get selected, as I'm expecting a baby and want to atleast keep my gains from the other Maps programs)

@boogiecrisostomo7160 3 жыл бұрын

head about this guy when you talked about generation hustle in one of your episodes. awesome that you got him for an interview!

@rovergoukenheimer3598 Жыл бұрын

Great interview!

@angelachii3614 3 жыл бұрын

Wow. I didnt think I was going to like this one but awesome interview guys. This dude is so interesting

@zeeman3891 9 күн бұрын

This is the first time im hearing his story, good channel

@Prissyde 3 жыл бұрын

You’re doing great Ian, so happy for you and to see what’s coming next! This is all so entertaining.

@jbbbjj 3 жыл бұрын

Huge fan. Another great episode, as usual! However, really wish everyone's faces weren't blocked by the mics.

@Tim_is_a_hooligan Жыл бұрын

Thank you Ian for being so transparent this was amazing

@gainsveinshypertrophy8691 3 жыл бұрын

Fascinating stuff.

@marissamorrison5875 3 жыл бұрын

When are you guys going to create an app for all your programs?!

@MrLukePowell 3 жыл бұрын

That’s so crazy. It’s interesting how quick success and overconfidence can get you into so much trouble. I think he learned his lesson because most of this was due to naivety. Still, it makes me wonder how often people do these things.

@theidwwashow2537 3 жыл бұрын

This was an awesome episode! We also had the chance to interview this great dude. Check it out if you want to see even more!

@balooshingagore 3 жыл бұрын

The comparison to Ian at 15 vs Lindsay at 15 is absolutely night and day. This is crazy to listen to!

@jassymommy 3 жыл бұрын

Very interesting story, a businessman in the making

@briangan3133 3 жыл бұрын

What does Ian's experience have anything to do with fitness and health? Isn't your podcast mainly dedicated to talking about those 2?

@gamingphatigue8347 3 жыл бұрын

Mind Pump Episode 1585: Adam Schafers 17-Year-Old ghost from the past 👻

@MegaUtube99 3 жыл бұрын

Where do I submit my question?

@333Mrhunter Жыл бұрын

Ppl find yourself someone that loves you like Ian Bick loves Ian Bick

@DT-kl7uf 11 ай бұрын

You're supergay

@RyanSmith-UPN 3 жыл бұрын

He seems like a nice kid with good morals that got caught in some tough situations without the wisdom to find the way out. I work in finance and you see this happen in nearly every fraud case when good people get in a hole and hold on to the idea that they can make it out all on their own rather than being honest with their lender. Eventually something unexpected goes wrong and everything falls apart. It’s unfortunate but he’s lucky to have experienced this as a kid and not an adult with hundreds of employees or even a family that depend on him .

@meenasubbiah3795 3 жыл бұрын

Building a business with nothing but blind ambition, Ian Bick transforms himself from a nerdy teen into a concert promoter almost as legendary as the bands he booked.

@bretro23 2 ай бұрын

Bro was trapping out the ice cream social lol

@carlos0192 3 жыл бұрын

LOL nice jersey, Sal

@donaldlandon1475 10 ай бұрын

I like this guy. One theme is his willful ignorance. Just because you intentionally stay blind to the crimes doesn’t make you innocent.

@kenwheeler7212 3 жыл бұрын

Why does the beginning of this story sound like Ferris Beuler? Should have been a Ferrari involved

@debbiedill3927 3 жыл бұрын

Sal your tshirts rock!!!!!

@mukeshkhanwani5822 3 жыл бұрын

The guy is wise, he’s manipulative and on top of that he knows how to get their money doubled easily. But keeping them in dark, I mean where the money is coming from or is it even there is one of the biggest things for investors. In his show mostly are small investors initially like his friends and known so there he kinda loses their friendship also when he fails to explain the money dilemma to them. Although not a bad guy, there actually are alot of bad guy out there, he did something in his own way and the only thing was his way was a little bit shady.

@lowlifegarage Жыл бұрын

Great story

@MindPumpShow Жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it

@Michael-jt4qo 3 жыл бұрын

Great group of guys with a lot of knowledge, you guys should go on a promo run so more people can know of you guys

@kingsjsj123 3 жыл бұрын

I need to try maps prime pro

@anaelena0000 3 жыл бұрын

Guys where can I ask a question for you to answer during a podcast or really anywhere! As long as you answer ahaha. Is a medical question and would mean the world yo me Thanks!!!!

@jayh.8676 3 жыл бұрын

You heard about Pluto? That’s messed up, huh?

@lilman0820 Жыл бұрын

This guy is awesome

@MindPumpShow Жыл бұрын

For sure!

@mukeshkhanwani5822 3 жыл бұрын

Need for attention is one the thing which is leads teens to do something they know can have real dark consequences.

@axelgoldfineds5328 3 жыл бұрын

Can you give your thoughts on melanatan

@Jose-cb3tj 3 жыл бұрын

Dang i think I'm late for the giveaway! Oh well.

@largemargeog1023 Жыл бұрын

This is one of those guys that I can’t easily judge how unlucky he is. On one hand that’s such a young age to go to prison and to think clearly about a ponsi scheme. On the other hand this guy’s talents are an exponential factor for whatever he is trying to achieve; and I don’t know if skills like that are teachable, they are incredibly valuable when used for good and legally. So yeah prison sucks but what a gift he has.

@johnstephan9962 Жыл бұрын

@bigbadaves Жыл бұрын

This is why you keep books

@robertwojcik4458 Жыл бұрын

He should have known danbury is the home of one of the biggest federal prisions

@hangarhull148 3 жыл бұрын

he seems like a “cocky, overconfident” young man who had a ton of “unguided ambition,” and counted his chickens before they hatched. He had so much initiative and so much ability well beyond his years and all of those things should have led to a success story, but I think he took that a little too far, With Ian, you get the sense that if he had just made a few decisions differently, he could have been the kind of wunderkind success that people said he was,

@dwrightcarter7419 2 ай бұрын

Yeah those investors got they money cause you knew they’ll be on that ass

@claymonaro68 3 жыл бұрын

I didn't want to like this guy and i didn't untill he said he will pay everyone back, i understand how this could happen to anyone, i think it might happen again. I hope I'm wrong. Great show guys.

@Jonyj8dp 4 ай бұрын

I wonder if steiny and him know each other

@justkickingit272 Жыл бұрын

I'd watch this tv show

@tokenfatfriend68 Жыл бұрын

Bro wore flip flops at school. Rebel without a cause.

@jesseweems4851 Жыл бұрын

This is def his parents fault. Enabling the hell out of him.

@notchback93 Жыл бұрын

Tuxedo Junction!

@BWIL2515 Жыл бұрын

Man to me this kids dad should have been involved from the beginning with the business end of everything how do you let your child run a business with no experience none of this would have happened if dad was a good business person

@onehappynegro 11 ай бұрын

ho can this not be a tv serie or movie?

@one_nation_fanwear 2 жыл бұрын

The Hatebreed show at tuxedo junction when the entire bouncing staff was tossed aside & taken over by the crowd was 🥜. A 🪦 for the living…

@JuanGomez-iy1gp 3 жыл бұрын

Looks like those chickens came home to roost....

@kennethadkins8432 Жыл бұрын

If he didn't pray on week and poor then I'm ok with what he did but now that he's done with that life and changed that's good

@haliax8149 2 жыл бұрын

This guy doesn't have what it takes to be successful. He was sitting around, confident in his success when he should have been working 80 hours a week to make sure his ventures made it through. He's way too optimistic, and didn't even bother to understand business fundamentals like tax deductions. He'll be fine now though. His fame will earn him a mil or two and he won't have to start another venture. if he does he'll be back to square one.

@Sncedayone 7 ай бұрын

Tell us your stack bro. I'm guess test and trenbolone

@chronometa Жыл бұрын

He's not gonna stop scheming. These guys never do

@lilman0820 Жыл бұрын

He needs a netflix show

@MindPumpShow Жыл бұрын

Lol

@viewfromhere57 3 жыл бұрын

Kid is a hustler.

@Matt-cr4vv 11 ай бұрын

What Ian did was wrong but he genuinely seems like he made his choices as an ignorant kid more than an intention to steal from people. While it doesn’t absolve him a lot of the investors in this case get little to no sympathy from me. Any parent who is giving their kids thousands of dollars to invest in a promotion being run by a 17 year old kid is an idiot. And as soon as their contracts guaranteed them their money back and/or guaranteed them a rate of return all prudent investors know that’s always a scam, especially if the guaranteed return is absurdly high like 50%. In reality a lot of the investors who lost out were greedy and took the chance to try and cash in on a quick big return hoping that he could float things for awhile. Again doesn’t absolve him but the wya he was even able to get the money from them shows that they weren’t entirely innocent victims in the thing.

@lauracarr1209 3 жыл бұрын

Wow

@pmn3191 11 ай бұрын

Zero gravity

@billyjean9484 11 ай бұрын

He stole people's money & spent it, period.

@DixieNormousEats 11 ай бұрын

Did you even watch the podcast?

@bvs56 Жыл бұрын

Wow. Way to snitch on your fellow inmates haha. Tellin about hooch and hustles. Thats called dry snitching. I'm just giving him grief. I hope he does well. Most people go until they go to prison. He's already got thar over with, so the sky's the limit.

@jaqariousjaqueees 2 ай бұрын

So its all wiz's fault 😂 (joking)

@joeberraco5883 2 жыл бұрын

Mastermind? He stole $500k, was busted right after, spent years in prison and is now paying it off slowly.

@chriskey7440 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you!! People are praising this kid, when he knowingly ripped people off. People can make mistakes but this guy made multiple mistakes and luckily got caught somewhat early. If you watch the Generation Hustle show on HBO, his first major show didn't even make money!! He was great at hosting local parties but when he tried to go mainstream, with no plan, that's when shit hit the fan, and fast. I hate when people praise others, who are thieves. Nothing this kid did was inspiring, he was just some nerdy ass guy, who wanted the fame, money, and women, who tried a get rich quick scheme

@joeberraco5883 2 жыл бұрын

@@chriskey7440 Well stated!!