there is its called a s208 with 242kw

Ben Chesterman it should come in all of them .

And it will cost 55k in usa ,and less consumers will buy it

Ben Chesterman but it shouldn’t .

Go whinge at Japanese government that push up manufactures cost

Blame Japanese government a ra cost that much , the s208 with 242kw is 56k in japan

I’ll take my AMG GT-S all day too lol

Suave House Thanks for supporting the company.

Suave House am i missing something? Isnt that car quite a bit more than 50k? You are either trying to show off or just a little slow

I'll buy a used porsche thanx

Already spoken for in the United States?

BRETT CROWTHER yea like 8 months ago

CFCCP...I was able to reserve one in early January.

I’ve got mine spoken for! Have it on reserve now.

Got mine reserved! Can’t wait to get mine. Hate how people that haven’t driven this car looks down upon it while this guys that are actually driving it understands why this one is special.

Yeah. He was shooting a one take. I believe it drops on The Smoking Tire tomorrow. (Monday)

Holla!

Do Boy's Garage At least many parts developed for it..

at least it's not utter garbage like ford RS motor.....

Raymond Hachmishvili At least ford can muster 350hp out of a turbo 2.3L while Subaru's fastest performance car makes 50hp less out of a 2.5L

Uncle Ruckus we all saw how ford rs handle 350hp...epic fail.

and more unreliable than the ej. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/bd1kZKaLkp7Hdqs.html lmao another lemon

I agree with you Raymond!

Agreed. Stronger pistons means... it can handle more power than original sti

You predicted the future, STI is no longer available in 2023.

Can't wait to see what they charge for the next gen STI! Maybe the Type RA will be a good deal after they release pricing for the new STI? Maybe they are getting everyone use to $50k plus pricing with this RA?

will be hybrid so 60k with 400hp

not enough buyers to justify it , most Subaru fans like sedan more

Ben Chesterman nyahahahhaa. Of course theyre gonna like sedan. Its the only available in the market. 8 to 14 sti hatches are and has always been sold instantly.

@@coopsnz1... Because Subaru charged more for it over the sedan and ppl went with their wallet and not practicality. I for 1 would like a wrx hatch too, but oh well...2011 here I come

Unlikely most owners would be nearly that good of a driver too. ;)

+Driving Sports TV Doesn’t change the fact that the claim is false.

yukikevo he's agreeing with you champ

I thought the exact same thing too when he said it 😂😂😂

it will cost 45k a base sti with 350hp

Some people have the money to buy a ready track ready car like this RA.

We did shoot something for that. It should be out next week.

Production-based.

Asked a friend that is an instructor and pro racer with a lot of experience with STIs. He said, "Pretty standard issue. Most likely exacerbated by excessive use of throttle mid corner before the car is settled. All AWD and FWD cars are designed to lift and inside wheel to aid in corner entry rotation under heavy brake and initial corner entry. Slamming the throttle down at this time will cause diff fluid to overheat. He needs more front roll resistance, or he needs to wait a moment on corner entry before forcing the DCCD to fix his ham-fisted throttle useage."

Driving Sports TV Thanks Ryan. Really appreciate the help. Thinking about my driving style, and watching some footage from yesterday, I do indeed slam full throttle almost instantly at Apex and have the AWD do it’s job. Funny thing is that the diff wouldn’t overheat on my OEM Yokohama’s. My car is still stock now, I just have sticky track tires. I guess those sticky tires made it even worse.. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/mtJ9ebGHuLLdZYk.html

Afraid we’ll have to wait for a new generation car which is still a couple years away for that.

Driving Sports TV unfortunately you're right. Don't get me wrong, 300+ horsepower is sufficient and moves the STi but while all the competition has been evolving and becoming more powerful the Subaru has been lagging behind and leaving the door open for others to come in and steal the show from them. Hopefully they make a big leap forward whenever the next generation of WRX STi comes along.

Subaru has never been about the horsepower wars. The WRX and WRX STI outsell their just about everyone in their competitive orbit and has done so for the last 7 model years. Subaru learned well to listen more to the people who actually buy their performance cars.

s208 has 242kw , but that costs 55k usd and its only in Japan , I doubt Subaru will build a wrx sti with more horsepower for less money

the completion cant compete with mechnicals in a wrx sti

Agreed that the record is a bit... convoluted. If you agree or disagree their claim as valid, it’s still the reason subaru built a new Type RA limited edition.

snke32. Doubt it

snke32 310 hp lol

it would still cost 45k with 310 hp . business cost are way higher in Japan than usa

if they did build a lot of these one problem , a lot of consumers will be priced out at 45k in Usa , would be less demand if a base sti was like a ra . Learn economics

Based on the Subaru owners we know, I’m sure many of them will see track days.

It's "Strategic Horizons" by Olive Musique

Driving Sports TV thanks so much that was fast!

True. We realized that when we put it together, letting the viewer answer it for themselves. Could it have used another script pass? Probably. As for modifying a car to be like this one: yes, would could get close, but you’d spend way more than 10k unless you’re doing all the work yourself. At that point just start with the RA which is a better baseline.

Business cost a much higher in Japan , so ofcousre its cheaper to modify a wrx sti in Usa

spec c ra wasn't cheap brand new 2003 38k . 2015 s207 was 50k brand new in Japan

I love the refreshing reception of the feedback! Keep up the good work though, I enjoyed the vid!

skinny faTony worth every penny

Of the cars you listed I would only agree with the Focus RS. The rest are RWD or FWD (totally different in terms of dynamics), some are even more expensive than the Type RA (M2) and the rest I wouldn't trust to lap all day at Willow Springs in August without their engines and brakes overheating.

Golf R and S3 are both AWD. The point is, the cars that are 10k-15k less than the TYPE RA perform better overall than the 50k STI. RWD or FWD is irrelevant. Dynamics will be different but performance standpoint at the price, it doesn't cut it for being 50k at all. The M2 is 3k more but the TYPE RA is no where near the M2 in performance. The TYPE RA Is 15k more than the CIVIC type R and is also no where near the performance. Given that all these cars are literally better, how is the TYPE RA worth 50k? is it really 10k better in performance than the Golf R? Nope. Is it close to the performance level of the M2? Nope. You review that the Type RA is worth it, without comparing any other car. How can you review a car not comparing it to cars in the relevant price point?

gotta remember the STi was a rally car. I would love to see the above compete off road. But 50k is wayyyy over priced though

So when was the last time Subaru won WRC? 2003. Which 2 brands have won the last 5 years? VW & Ford.

s208 with 242kw is 56k in Japan , so a ra for 7k less with 228kw . The 56k s208 sounds better value

Prodigious 909 yeah but stinger aint have 6speed manual.only auto (for old pips)

The Toyota Prius plug-in Hybrid has an official lap time of 20 minute, 59-seconds. (It was officially an economy run, but the 2014 time is still legit!)

Gordon Murray those are just there until you get muffler deletes

Especially sad since the BRZ tS even gets the new system with CarPlay.

I have a 2016 STI and mid-level head unit is just god awful. It's an embarasssment for Subaru to use that piece of trash.

Yeah my friend at work just bought one and feels the same way. Awesome car though.

TheGryf0xxx but why impreza has better head unit than wrx/sti?! I dont get it! Racers needs to listen to music too lol

It’s more cost effective to have an in house audio unit especially when it comes down to Software issues .... you don’t have to wait for 3rd party companies (ie. Apple , android ) to release updates and hope your audio unit will work after that update is applied. The car manufacturer can release there own updates whenever and deal with software or hardware issues internally...

s208 with 242kw , cost 56k in Japan . s207 was 50k brand new , the now sellng for 60k in japan 3 years latter

True but some poor smuck will buy it anyways.

BMW charges over 8K for a carbon fiber roof too. That alone charge added to a loaded sti gets really close to 50k.

worth every penny. you got blind by HP numbers.

Even the base STi is not worth $40k for an aging EJ25 that gets 20mpg. There are 4 cylinder turbos that make 300hp that get 30mpg. If you want to waste your money, then go buy it. I'm not buying this bullshit.

Nope.

Hahah, this is a commercial.

Anyone can buy an M2

W Scott or a used GT-R

The Type RA is for track days, the Stinger is a GT. Two very different cars.

No EJ no rumble. People like u complain like the NSX when it's eventually gonna be hybrid

the s208 has 242kw in japan for 56k , 11k more than this RA

MikeM you don't need a EJ for rumble. The rumble comes from unequal length headers.

Mike Hundredson that's correct the Subaru rumble comes from unequal length headers. It's not inherent to the EJ motor. I'm complaining because this car will never be worth $50,000 as long as it's running the EJ motor. It's time to bury the EJ and move on.

A twin charged flat 6 I think would solve a lot of issues (lag) and make the car more premium. It'll sound better than the rumble too.

I bet you're enjoying the hell out of that car. The Type R is really great.

Absolutely!

Yup

Kong Lee completely wrong and disagree...the spoiler is easily the coolest feature and it also has a purpose. If you look around on KZfaq, look up "differences between tuner vs ricer"

Paid commentator.

How’s that head gasket recall going?

Driving Sports TV Going well, FORD is stepping up and fixing the mistake. Not the first car to get a recall.

Driving Sports TV savage lol

Luis Negron not really, it's just an informecial for Subaru, no car journalism here.

Ye but then you'd have a ford...