I heard "low oil pressure" and had flashbacks 😬 But this will probably be a badass engine in about three years.

Cant wait to see how this engine turns out. Having a '18 114 heritage and having to replace the oil pump and the cams looking very worn at 32k miles im just gonna sit this one out for a few years.

Can’t wait to see the bike! Thanks for all the info! Very interesting stuff Harley is up to. I sure hope all their new designs and technologies work as specified cause they really do need a reliable way to cool these big engines down.

Thanks for this valuable information brother!👍🏾

Excellent video

I think I will keep my 2015 twin cam with a gear drive cam. I know that will always work

Good video 👍

Warning! Better be better than the all SE 114 kit that went in my 2018 M8 LR when it was brand new. The SE valve spring went 'kaput' at just 13K miles. Told the dealer to FO and install S&S valve springs when they wanted to replace them with new SE.

HD should allow this 121 VVT M8 to trickle down to their LowRiderS models. I would buy one.

Harley owners will complain about everything, but Harley dealt with the heat back in 2017 when the m8 first came out. Those who tamper with the bikes, with aftermarket tuners, shut off Harley safety features. They also raise the engine idle rpm from 800 to a twin-cam,1000 rpm.

Nice Harleys have VTEC now

Funny how they use a phaser for cam timing. Not that it makes that much of a difference. The early engine cams were gear driven n S&S has a gear driven setup for the Twin Cams. I suppose the phaser is used to make up for the cam chain slop as the chain wears out. The other thing I observed is that this system will run quieter because the oil acts as an insulator n cushion for the action of the cam n valve train...

You're gonna be an early adopter? Cool, Subbed. Im interested to see how this all goes. Best of luck!

Looks like the head intake port is changed also.

Thank you for your post. Could you post the video that explains how the oil cooling system works please?

Really good information - I was wondering how the new engine works. After a couple of bad experience with my Pan America, I'll surely wait several years before even thinking about an upgrade tho.

Most cars and even trucks now run very thin oil due to the cam phasers. Im curious if HD will spec a thinner oil than their normal 20w50. With the high temps HD engines normally run that cam phaser won't last long.

Very interesting. Have you already ordered your new CVO? I live in the Milwaukee area and want to see one first before ordering. I'm sure I will find one next weekend with all of the festivities. I ride a 2015 Ultra Limited w/SE 100, its been great, but I'm ready to upgrade.

My only worry about the oil control system of the vvt it may not allow for higher pressure/flow oil pumps.

This is quite similar or same as VANOS used since the mid to late 90s car motors like BMW. So you can expect similar reliability 😅 and occasional solenoid diagnosing and replacements.

With Harley’s recent history of failure in new designs,I bet there will be a lot of people who will want to wait and see.

Good info! I have mine on order too, have an Ultra Limited Apex currently. Hope to get a date, vin or any solid update after the "release" this weekend at the festival, just have the confirmed order so far! Do you already have an eta assuming you ordered one?

Thank you for this video. How do you purchase a printed copy of the service manual? Thanks!

I LIKE. NOW DO IT ON ALL TOURING BIKES.

Im sure there will be some bugs to work out. Exciting stuff 😮

Any news when your cvo is coming in? I just got info that mine is coming in between October and November

Great video... time will tell if they have tackled the overheating issue. Do you know if they are also running an oil cooler/fan combination? I would assume they are. As a buyer, I would wait several years before considering this new engine. If the M8 oil pump and sumping issues in the 17-19 model years is any indication, this new design will also have some bugs. And, with the price of these new HDs, I have zero interest in being their test rat. HD should provide a 5 year warranty at no cost to the buyer for all new engine combinations in their first year models. With that said, I believe HD will have to go to a full water jacket cooling setup in the near future to compete with Indian's current engine. They will have to for EPA reasons eventually. As a buyer, I want engine reliability and longevity. To keep these M8s from exploding due to excessive heat, owners are installing very expensive cooling modifications. Instead of $4000 paint upgrades, HD should be focusing on keeping the engines cool. My two cents :-)

Didn’t Hurley use the VVT system on previous bikes?

It's going to be a very weird sounding engine. The M8 already sounds very different to all other Harley engines; it may not be immediately obvious but if you hear it side by side with any other Harley engine, it's totally different. VVT is going to make it sound like something other than a Harley

Welp it looks like Harley just drove up the price tag for all this innovation, it'll be fun to see how doing a simple cam swap on a VVT system will be.

Eventually with Harley coming out withall these bigger displacement engines they will eventually have to have the cylinders and heads both liquid cooled, Harley Davidson engineers must of forgotten that the cylinders get hot too. If the temperature reaches over 250° the piston rings will break. And those cylinders are massive in size. You could almost fit a small dinner plate inside perfectly. With bigger cylinders comes more heat. You have more air and fuel going in Makin a much bigger explosion inside thus the byproduct is heat, and alot more of it, plus they could redesign the crank pun to be squared off on both ends instead of them being rounded, that will gurontee the flywheels will always stay true. They won't go out of balance and make the crankshaft go out of 0. Like the twin cam motor did. Every reliability issue they have they need to fix all these problems and make Harley Davidson a reliable product, it's 2024, Harley Davidson shouldn't be having any reliability issues anymore. If they make an engine with zero vibration and fully liquid cooled their customers will be alot happier, especially when they know, that they don't have to keep taking their bikes to the repair shop. Keep the push rod design but make it fully liquid cooled, they are going to have to do that anyway, the bigger the cylinders the more heat they produce. I have studied the internal combustion engine for well over 30 years. I have worked on many different types of engines. People are paying alot of money for these bikes, its time that Harley Davidson build a quality engine

I'm sure that won't break and the knuckle daggers won't screw this up.

Can I ask you a favor. I'm waiting to see if my login is accepted. Could you tell me the torque specs of the top tree bolt (the one that screws I to the stem?

I had 3 f150s all cam phasers failed ! No thanks HD !

watercooling oooooooohhhhhhh noooooooo!!!!!! where are the hardcore harley guys now! i own a v rod .....

L would not buy the first year engine . l bought the first year m8 and got 5000 miles and the engine went down .it took 2 mouths to get my bike back .tire pressure was very low but the dealer said they checked it ,oil was low same BS L would guess all the parts and low oil pressure . oil changes would be often .it took 4 years to get the oil pump right in the m8 L would wait 3 years before buying .

The coolant..cooler..the coolant tube....coolant goes in an S shape.....next the coolant goes into the coolant cooler.... the then cooling cooler collant cooling system cools the cooling coolant to cool the bikes coolant to then cool the bike.....coolant.

So basically don’t get this bike until it’s 4th generation is out and they work out all the bugs

Just bought this bike. I so regret it. At 6'3" the bike does not fit. So Harley davidson is primarily owned by bikers. Alot of bikers are well over 5'7". This bike wwy to small. 54k out the door. I am so pist!!

PASS

Way too complicated for HD

Very poor design

Here is lots of Honda, Kawasaki,etc with oil pressure VVT without any issue.About cooling...better than nothing.🤷