2023 KTM 300XC TBI First Impressions Review

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PNW Enduro

PNW Enduro

Жыл бұрын

First ride on the all new 2023 KTM 300XC TBI. More to come but for now I'll say this is the best running and most fun KTM bike I've been on. The TBI coupled with the electronic power valve is a big improvement over TPI.
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@PNWEnduro
@PNWEnduro Жыл бұрын
You may have seen a certain review on this bike saying how bad the suspension is "almost unridable". Keep in mind they are trying to sell you thousands of dollars worth of aftermarket suspension parts.
@gpaull2
@gpaull2 Жыл бұрын
Anyone who complains about ANY modern suspension definitely did not start riding on bikes from the ‘70s and ‘80s. Ride a ‘78 Suzuki for a year and you’ll know just how rideable everything is nowadays.
@jamesdenton3692
@jamesdenton3692 Жыл бұрын
@@gpaull2 Yep ,kids today.😁
@DmitriyAdv
@DmitriyAdv Жыл бұрын
Many of the same people say the same thing about Xplor suspension on the XCW/FE’s, KYBs on Beta…etc. I think it does depend on the terrain a lot, but most modern bikes are really good for the average rider. The A/Pro racer guys, or those really picky about their setup will change the suspension anyway, on any bike.
@Siskiyouoffroad
@Siskiyouoffroad Жыл бұрын
That “certain reviewer” also thinks you need 10k in mods to make a bike rideable on single track… 😂
@bbieger2
@bbieger2 Жыл бұрын
Screw JS. I have bought a lot of stuff from him over the last decade but honestly he is just a grumpy old man now. Oh? There XC race bike isn't set up out of the box for slow speed Colorado choss? Shocking!!
@onthethrottle7104
@onthethrottle7104 Жыл бұрын
Excellent vid as always. I was super impressed as well. The suspension is excellent after just a few clicker adjustments. I also noticed the more time on the bike, the suspension kept impressing me and got better and better. Totally agree, it's the best 'out of the box' suspension to date of any bike. Great show, PNW Enduro.
@SOBchannel
@SOBchannel Жыл бұрын
Greg, you look good on a KTM! Actually I appreciate you enthusiasm for any sound machine, no matter the color! And as for suspension, glad to hear your thoughts resonate with mine!
@PNWEnduro
@PNWEnduro Жыл бұрын
This bike is just so much fun to ride, and that's the most important thing imo.
@UltraSS-nj8kd
@UltraSS-nj8kd Жыл бұрын
Ill wait until the bugs are out but they look good for the most part. Went back a step to me with the plastic subframe and kickstart delete. Was downer of the E-power valve as well but maybe uts a postitive
@stevedouglas1654
@stevedouglas1654 Жыл бұрын
The 2024 300 XC is going back to spring forks 👍
@rogermty1971
@rogermty1971 Жыл бұрын
Hello Greg Nice to see that you like the TBI. Since you already tried the smooth Smartcarb, I take your comments very seriously. Time for me to start saving money, to get next year a 300 XC-W with a TBI. Currently have a 2014 TE 250 with a Smartcarb and works very well.
@stevedouglas1654
@stevedouglas1654 Жыл бұрын
The 24 300 XC-W is supposed to have TBI with oil injection like the TPI’s 👎
@usa45v26
@usa45v26 Жыл бұрын
Appreciate the honest review put out here! With the 2024 enduro bikes set to get all the upgrades that the xc and mx bikes got it makes me wonder if it's better to just wait for the XCW/TE to get the spring explorer forks?? I do like the versatility of the air fork for any kind of gp style tracks for jumps. I plan on buying a 2t trail/woods bike to compliment my '21 450sxf mx bike. At first I wanted the 2023 350xcf but felt that it would be too similar to my 450 to justify buying. I'm old so 4t always seemed the easiest way to go, but i hear a lot of good on these new 2t.
@PNWEnduro
@PNWEnduro Жыл бұрын
Personally I prefer the spring forks. The trip computer and lights are a bonus as well. I do much prefer the new XC transmission over the XCW wide ratio though.
@usa45v26
@usa45v26 Жыл бұрын
@@PNWEnduro I guess it depends on what you value more...the XC trans or the springs + acc. I havent tried an xcw. I imagine the trans could be annoying in some slower situations.
@tonn333
@tonn333 Жыл бұрын
I discovered your channel because of your TM 300 review... I hoped you’d talk about the differences between the two. Or was it too long ago?
@pashaenduro
@pashaenduro Жыл бұрын
How is it compared to Sherco?
@andreasbrodie4901
@andreasbrodie4901 Жыл бұрын
I came off 2 seasons riding a 350XCF and switched to the 23 250xc. I noticed the frame had much less flex. Much more rigid for sure, I think a lot of guys could be blaming this on the suspension. If you are always sitting down it will feel harsh at times but if you are standing a lot it feels great. I only have 5 hours on mine, curious with some more hours of the frame will gain a bit more flex. Either way I’m really enjoying the bike. It’s an absolute weapon in the woods !
@krazed0451
@krazed0451 Жыл бұрын
It boggles myind that we're only just now coming back to electronic power valves, given Yamaha were doing it in the 90s.
@PNWEnduro
@PNWEnduro Жыл бұрын
It's so much better than the spring loaded system.
@joeyevans6118
@joeyevans6118 Жыл бұрын
What fan kit/part number are you running? Thanks in advance Sweet review
@PNWEnduro
@PNWEnduro Жыл бұрын
Have a look at noahr on KZfaq. It’s his bike and he’s got a video detailing the parts a while back.
@grutzmac
@grutzmac Жыл бұрын
Bike is nuts. Where is this trail? Looks super fun!
@i_dodge_trees
@i_dodge_trees Жыл бұрын
I believe this is mcnutt/blue mountain in BC.
@infidelmat
@infidelmat Жыл бұрын
If anyone has experience on the 2023 250XC for this terrain I would love to know. My 2012 250xc left me wanting in the low end for the steeper trashier climbs out west where the 250 usually needs the higher revs which makes it much more difficult. I do love the 250 for its nimbleness and not sure I want to give it up.
@PNWEnduro
@PNWEnduro Жыл бұрын
@Infidel Mat I'll hopefully be trying the new 250xc out soon as well. Need some snow to melt first!
@JordanFrayn
@JordanFrayn Жыл бұрын
Curious, have you ridden a tpi bike with a tsp power kit or coober ecu? Wondering if the power and smoothness would be similar to this bike?
@PNWEnduro
@PNWEnduro Жыл бұрын
I have not.
@k2marine
@k2marine Жыл бұрын
hi there, hey could you give your pros and cons compared to sherco 300se? i'm looking at either a husky tx300 or sherco. thanks for any info
@PNWEnduro
@PNWEnduro Жыл бұрын
Both great bikes but very different. TX300 is fuel injected so no need to tune for elevation and temperature, the new TBI motor has tons of power. Air forks are not the best IMO, I prefer spring forks The stator on the Husky is not very powerful so it may be an issue if you want to run lights and you will likely need to add a fan. The Sherco has better suspension and comes with a fan, trip computer and lights. It's still carbureted (for now) so you will either have to jet it or spend the money on a Smartcarb. It's best to try both first if you can. Sherco's feel quite a bit different, lots of people love them right away but some can't seem to get comfortable on them.
@k2marine
@k2marine Жыл бұрын
@@PNWEnduro thanks for the info
@fosterkatchen7010
@fosterkatchen7010 Жыл бұрын
Just out of curiosity, I noticed you swapped maps when at a full stop. Can you flip between the two while moving like on the previous models? Or does it not want to change?
@PNWEnduro
@PNWEnduro Жыл бұрын
Yes you can, I just find it awkward to use the new switch.
@fosterkatchen7010
@fosterkatchen7010 Жыл бұрын
@@PNWEnduro okay good to know. Thanks for the quick response!
@navaron8868
@navaron8868 Жыл бұрын
How is the low and mid range vs sherco 300? The low range is better than older ktm models? Thanks
@PNWEnduro
@PNWEnduro Жыл бұрын
The TBI hits way harder than the Sherco. Low range is a lot better than the TPI bikes.
@connorlewis8547
@connorlewis8547 2 ай бұрын
Did they fix the ccps on tbi bikes?
@PNWEnduro
@PNWEnduro 2 ай бұрын
Yes.
@husaislander4838
@husaislander4838 Жыл бұрын
I saw a guy last fFiday on the trails he was on a 2023 TX 300 TBI.He was not happy with how it was getting fuel said he was having fueling problems
@PNWEnduro
@PNWEnduro Жыл бұрын
I've seen a 250 locally that has issues. This 300 runs amazing though.
@ModularMuscle
@ModularMuscle Жыл бұрын
8 hours on mine. no issues.
@BAYAREAMX
@BAYAREAMX Жыл бұрын
As with anything you hear more from the bad experiences than the good. The people having issues are letting everyone know. The people not having issues are out riding.
@bbieger2
@bbieger2 Жыл бұрын
14 hours on my 300. Having owned 7 different 300xc, I can tell you out of the box it is a MONSTER and better than any model that has come before it. Full stop.
@onthethrottle7104
@onthethrottle7104 Жыл бұрын
no issues whatsoever - wonder who these people are that have "fueling issues" like what are they up to?
@jamesdenton3692
@jamesdenton3692 Жыл бұрын
Still the XC,s are focused on "racing" , are the air forks still given the nod over the explorer for us trail hacks ??
@PNWEnduro
@PNWEnduro Жыл бұрын
Personally I prefer the spring forks. The air forks are just not as plush.
@bbieger2
@bbieger2 Жыл бұрын
I agree with the author that the air forks are better than any fork I have ridden. That said.. I am taking the lucky spring conversion forks off my 2020 and putting them on this bike. An air fork will never ever never be as compliant on the slow speed square hits. The stock fork isn't horrible but it could be better
@davidgrunklee8407
@davidgrunklee8407 Жыл бұрын
What's with all the smoking out of the sherco?!
@PNWEnduro
@PNWEnduro Жыл бұрын
Hot exhaust + cold water = smoke.
@stacksmasher
@stacksmasher Жыл бұрын
Holy cow its soooooooooo Green! Is this from last week? You may need to let some of us fly up there to get out of the snow bunker hahahahha!
@PNWEnduro
@PNWEnduro Жыл бұрын
Yes, last weekend but it snowed this week so we probably won’t be able to ride here for at least a few weeks now.
@Mostviews111
@Mostviews111 Жыл бұрын
I want one bad but they lost me at premix
@PNWEnduro
@PNWEnduro Жыл бұрын
I don't get it. Mixing fuel is not that hard to do and it's one less failure point on the bike.
@jjmckay6man1
@jjmckay6man1 Жыл бұрын
@@PNWEnduro I agree!
@bbieger2
@bbieger2 Жыл бұрын
Good, who wants to hang with someone who thinks mixing gas is a chore. Just ride your recumbent bike on the weekend then.
@joshscoot2231
@joshscoot2231 Жыл бұрын
Ima stick with tpi for now… more trustex
@mroffel
@mroffel Жыл бұрын
What happened to your GoPro?
@PNWEnduro
@PNWEnduro Жыл бұрын
It just randomly shuts off all the time now. Had to buy an 11.
@ceaser6411
@ceaser6411 Жыл бұрын
Does the Husqvarna have TBI
@DmitriyAdv
@DmitriyAdv Жыл бұрын
The 2023 TC and TX bikes are TBI and all new chassis. The TE (enduro) is still TPI and same chassis as 2022.
@ceaser6411
@ceaser6411 Жыл бұрын
@@DmitriyAdv thanks
@TheKitchenTechnician
@TheKitchenTechnician Жыл бұрын
Next year all KTM’s will be running carburetors.
@brentv7299
@brentv7299 Жыл бұрын
We can only hope!
@onthethrottle7104
@onthethrottle7104 Жыл бұрын
No, and within a few years carb owners (believe it or not) will be jonesing to get a new TBI bike, wait until you ride one of these and see how reliable everything is! ...and how GREAT it runs and handles.
@Bubbleuprubberdown
@Bubbleuprubberdown Жыл бұрын
I hope the GasGas gets the TBI!
@PNWEnduro
@PNWEnduro Жыл бұрын
It will, on the 2025 models.
@dougfalstad5227
@dougfalstad5227 Жыл бұрын
Why? I’d like to see GasGas go back to carbs and backup kickstart. I love KTM but won’t be buying any new bikes. Too much electronics.
@PNWEnduro
@PNWEnduro Жыл бұрын
Ktm cannot sell carb bikes due to emissions regulations and the number of bikes they sell. Sherco and Beta will be the same soon.
@onthethrottle7104
@onthethrottle7104 Жыл бұрын
@@dougfalstad5227 You still have a flip phone bro?
@dougfalstad5227
@dougfalstad5227 Жыл бұрын
@@onthethrottle7104 don’t use a cell phone….
@MR.TOYBOX
@MR.TOYBOX Жыл бұрын
Have you ever been on the yz 250x? I wonder which one I should get?
@PNWEnduro
@PNWEnduro Жыл бұрын
Yes, I have a few times. Without a doubt the KTM. They are not even in the same category IMO.
@MR.TOYBOX
@MR.TOYBOX Жыл бұрын
@@PNWEnduro Awesome. Should I get the 2023 xc 300 now or wait for the 2024 model?
@PNWEnduro
@PNWEnduro Жыл бұрын
The 2024 will likely have very little changes on the XC so grab a 23. Unless you want the XC-W model which will be TBI on the 2024's.
@MR.TOYBOX
@MR.TOYBOX Жыл бұрын
@@PNWEnduro ok that’s a another question. Coming from yz 250 . I will be racing amateur b class 40 plus in Alabama. So it’s east coast woods. Seems the first gear is actually pretty low on the new xc 300. Should I get the xc 300 or wait for the 24 xcw 300?
@MR.TOYBOX
@MR.TOYBOX Жыл бұрын
@@PNWEnduro Thank you
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