I had this setup for a week found that it impacts the internal fans after a long play session. What I found is most reviews only show the first 10 minutes or less of gaming. Once you go to 20+ minutes there is no difference or it actually ran 5 to 10 degrees hotter. I kept the case but removed the thermal pad and peltier cooler.
@scaryifliteral Жыл бұрын
The other day I set my fans to a set speed and let a game idle for about half an hour. Attached the fan and let it sit and the temps did not move at all. Just isn't a good product lol.
@TravisHi_YT Жыл бұрын
Without seeing the methodology, anyone seeing lowering of temps with this case probably aren't thermally saturating it before actually testing temps.
@kris2501100 Жыл бұрын
this thing basically increase “volume” of a heat pool. Thermal pads inside are too thick to let cpu temperature responses quickly to cooler settings.
@Alfadog831 Жыл бұрын
Awesome video dude! I'm glad to see I wasn't the only one with this idea! I recommend using this in tandem with the fantastic plugin for best results as seen on my channel.
@tranyenthanh5282 Жыл бұрын
because when the external fan cool the SD down, the first thing will happen is the internal fan will slow down. that why the tempeture drop slowly. To test exactly you need to keep the internal fan speed stay the same. this way you'll see the benefit more in internal fan speed (RPM).
@scaryifliteral Жыл бұрын
I actually did this yesterday after installing Windows using steam deck tools. I even filmed a bit hoping I'd see a tiny difference, but I didn't. It's just not doing anything for me. I even took the thing apart and replaced their thermal pads with good paste to see if that was the issue lol.
@SaucerX Жыл бұрын
i have one of those peltier cooler fans that i use for my fold 3 when i'm gaming, the steam deck might not be able to supply anough power to feed the cooler and the fan, they ussually pull between 10-20 watts of power and they really cool the phone down, maybe not the steam deck because of the higher TDP over the cooling power of the peltier cooler, it might work if they made higher power ones that you could use with a PD wall charger. exelent video as always Shane!
@jnj83 Жыл бұрын
Such a good video. Thank you for making this.
@ClassicRedEye Жыл бұрын
That fan is a semi conductor that will frost over with no load. It would work alot better if it made direct contact with the metal plate of the deck rather than the magnetic plate it came with. Also check as I've seen them have a 50% and 100%
@revmaillet Жыл бұрын
I added a graphite pad to replace the thermal paste and it lowered the rpms by around 1k so I wonder what it would do in conjunction to the back plate. was thinking of doing the blue one
@Alfadog831 Жыл бұрын
Frostsheet?
@rudyrudy5384 Жыл бұрын
What Temps were you getting while running triple a games?
@Killernochance11 ай бұрын
I cannot believe that there are no rechargeable options for the fan on the market right now. I just spent an hour digging through the entire internet. That's freaking insane. Such a heartbreak.
@TechOut Жыл бұрын
I think C to A with the fan is because they intend you power it via a hub or Power bank so you can still charge the steam deck
@scaryifliteral Жыл бұрын
Correct
@nickshaffer7659 Жыл бұрын
I'm using this same config and i definitely recommend it. when its docked or in handheld i use this and its amazing how well it helps. If you are also tinkering with the amount of wattage and other settings you can get temps down really well. For cyberpunk 2077 at 9-10 watts and fsr2 running with a mix of low and medium settings minus a few high setting for color and lighting it does really well. on average i can get 2.5-3.5 hours off a max battery playing the game.
@nickshaffer7659 Жыл бұрын
average fps is anywhere from 40-65 fps depending on where you are.
@alt666 Жыл бұрын
Im so used to my laptop fans that the steam deck fan at 7k rpm is really nothing lol. Especially since my laptop is on an IETS gt500 which is almost 2 times louder than my laptop and the deck combined. My deck never goes into the 70s and its still stock for now.
@colbyboucher639111 ай бұрын
FYI JSAux has released a revised version of this backplate, which extends the aluminum down to the rear vent and includes _another_ vent right on top of the APU fan to reduce how much heat is getting to the aluminum (so it doesn't burn you quite so easily and the other components stay cooler). It sounds like they adjusted the thermal pad to not screw with airflow as much as well? Not as sure about that though...
@scaryifliteral11 ай бұрын
I've reviewed it too
@colbyboucher639111 ай бұрын
@@scaryifliteral Yeah, this was a stupid comment
@DaBigCheeso Жыл бұрын
That clear back plate is fantastic. I noticed better performance almost immediately too. Guess they knew what they were doing with that heat sync
@scaryifliteral Жыл бұрын
It's really good. Not sure I've seen better perf, but certainly quieter fans.
@DaBigCheeso Жыл бұрын
@@scaryifliteral I was playing Hogwarts and noticed it being a little less stuttery when I fired it up post-case upgrade. It's POSSIBLE that was a performance patch since it's new but had a couple other newer games that APPEARED to run smoother too. But definitely less fan noise too.
@donniedarko4497 Жыл бұрын
Confirmation bias
@emanuelarriaza3710 Жыл бұрын
What about this re 4 problem
@divinedragonkirr Жыл бұрын
Lmao
@ReluctantReader Жыл бұрын
thanks for the test Shane!
@ManChefDad Жыл бұрын
Awesome video man!
@Therion52 Жыл бұрын
I wonder if you cut the thermal pad to about 1/4th to open up the airflow channel in the shield if it would help at all.
@scaryifliteral Жыл бұрын
I think the fan is just too weak tbh
@EJsEyeDАй бұрын
Cutting off a 4th of the thermal pad does indeed keep air flow because the thermal pad closes off a heat flow path. Cutting that small side off fixes that issue and I bet that fan will make a HUGE difference that way.
@hungng8728 Жыл бұрын
You should try the fan over the vents. Just like PC case fans, fans are designed for airflow to pull out the heat. Not sure why they designed it to dissipate the heat.
@whitygoose11 ай бұрын
your wrong. the fan isn't for dissipating the APU. its for cooling the peltier. so the other side of the peltier can go cold.
@fiscalgoose7664 Жыл бұрын
Just running the mod case with the rechargeable cooling fan allows it to get cooler down between 70°c and 75°c by taking the hot air directly from the top vent of the steam deck
@scaryifliteral Жыл бұрын
I show this in the video
@fiscalgoose7664 Жыл бұрын
@@scaryifliteral with the mod case and cooler fan?
@fiscalgoose7664 Жыл бұрын
@@scaryifliteral you show something completely different from what I'm talking about you show the transparent back plate and a magnetic cooling fan the fan I'm talking about is different and I'm playing high on life at 63°c -70°c
@hamdanrazak9830 Жыл бұрын
You have facebook?can i ask u something about your cooler setup?
@fiscalgoose7664 Жыл бұрын
@@hamdanrazak9830 yeah
@titoyangs10753 ай бұрын
Is it safe to have the jsaux backplate removed with that sticky thermal pad?
@Godsrocker197010 ай бұрын
Ok. Having a hard time finding an external intake and /or exhaust fan to fit over the vented circle on backplate V2
@FireGate_1311 ай бұрын
Also learn that this back case , alters the air movement inside the steamdeck , which alters the temperature of the charging circuit. It cools the CPU but all the other components are at higher temps. Also your hangs are at risk with temps over 80C.
@raxcentalruthenta14566 ай бұрын
I bought this because it's the only backplate that comes in purple. The thermal block doesn't really help my performance or battery life. It does delay how long before the internal fan kicks on. Im wondering what would happen if i had a usb fan blowing air onto the plate while docked.
@vsighi Жыл бұрын
Cool review dude.
@MW2TF141 Жыл бұрын
Anything you recommend for screws that are stripped? The same exact screw you had a problem with is being stubborn and I can’t for the life of me get it and I don’t wanna keep going till the point of no return
@thedebtcollectors6487 Жыл бұрын
If I just get the backplate and play games for awhile is the back of my steam deck where that thermal pad thing is gonna be hot to the touch? If so I’m finna just take that whole thing off cuz I just ordered the backplate 😂
@noonebeer Жыл бұрын
I just got one yesterday. It's a good idea, but the problem is that the Jsaux back plate's clips aren't aligned with the Steam Deck's OEM case. This is obvious when you hold the OEM backplate with the Jsaux one. What happens is that you will have a large gap in either the top right or top left because the back plate won't snap due to the bad positioning of the clips. Even if the clips lined up, you still need to cut out a small part of the thermal putty on the left. Why? Because if you don't, you'll be blocking the small air channel to the OEM fan. Not a big deal, and it's an easy fix. I wish that they had better QA because i really like the idea of the metal plate. I was hoping that Jsaux was another Anker or DJI. It's not.
@scaryifliteral Жыл бұрын
You're saying the pad is blocking your fan? I can't say I have a large gap anywhere either. Maybe 1mm on the side with the thermal pad? Maybe not even that large lol.
@noonebeer Жыл бұрын
@@scaryifliteral no, it’s blocking air flow from the metal sink that’s to the left of the fan. It’s a very subtle L shaped groove. I didn’t even know what it was until someone pointed it out
@disasterincarnate Жыл бұрын
@@noonebeer yup, the L shaped indentation on the outside of the backplate is a small channel for air to flow, the thermal pad by default covers up part of the channel blocking or at least making airflow harder to circulate, your "temp stats" will still look great but thats for GPU/CPU, the stuff that ends up overheating is your IC Controller chip, your NVME SSD and everything else under the backplates meshed airvent at the bottom. You need clearer air circulation for those chips specifically as the fan "sucks" air through the meshed vent and around that indented air channel and around to the fan which then expels the hot air.
@noonebeer Жыл бұрын
@@disasterincarnate thank you for properly explaining it
@ThaexakaMavro Жыл бұрын
@@disasterincarnate just cut the thermal pad wouldn't that help ?
@benalvis672211 ай бұрын
Tyvm
@markusmitchell8585 Жыл бұрын
That thermal pad blocks air intake i would recomend cutting it a bit on the side the fan faces to hekp with that.
@scaryifliteral Жыл бұрын
The thermal pad is a full quarter inch from the intake vent. It has the exact same access to the outside air as it did before.
@colbyboucher639111 ай бұрын
@@scaryifliteral Not the intake vent, it's an internal air channel right underneath the plate. That L-shaped groove? Yeah that's for airflow. The thermal pad gums that all up.
@michl141 Жыл бұрын
Would a combination of the back plate and a good thermal pad on the CPU cool down the steam deck even further? A thermal pad like UFD Tech added in his video
@mcbubbles2492 Жыл бұрын
Do not get the thermal pad. It failed. Get honewell 7950 thermal. Do not get this fan. Cooling get the jsaux cooler. Trust me been through it all. Down to a custom heatsink.
@michl141 Жыл бұрын
@@mcbubbles2492 you mean the honey well in addition the back plate?
@mcbubbles2492 Жыл бұрын
@@michl141 you can yes. The Honeywell pad will take like 2 weeks to get to you after you order it. Overall if you get the jsaux cooler call that a day it all. The cooler is all you need unless your gonna go with the custom heatsink route.
@michl141 Жыл бұрын
@@mcbubbles2492 ah ok thank you
@Ethann2150 Жыл бұрын
Wait how do you have sons of the forest? Thought that didnt work on the sd
@arghpee Жыл бұрын
I dont get the dislikes. Great review
@sandrahiltz Жыл бұрын
I'm hoping they make a version of this with solid black plastic, I love the idea of the aluminum plate to help dissipate more heat, just personally not a fan of the 90's translucent plastic look.
@linox9073 Жыл бұрын
That's retarded. Then just use the original back plate then and put thermal pad in it.
@Sippycupman Жыл бұрын
What graphics preset were you using on sons of the forest 26 fps is extremely low … I lock 45 on low settings with cryoutilities 2.0
@scaryifliteral Жыл бұрын
Video wasn't about SotF performance, it was about getting this thing hot and testing temps.
@Sippycupman Жыл бұрын
@@scaryifliteral lol was just making sure colt when I seen them frames drop I forgot what the vid was about … my fault 😂
@donniedarko4497 Жыл бұрын
Are people even having Cooling issues? Both mine have cooled perfectly the entire time. Extra cooling seems very unnecessary
@scaryifliteral Жыл бұрын
As I said in this video, unless you're thermal throttling (you shouldn't be) there isn't a huge benefit to this as far as I can tell. You could say lower temps are better for the battery and it's possible that some games might run ever so slightly better, but by and large this is just for fun.
@sandrahiltz Жыл бұрын
While likely you wouldn't see performance differences unless you are playing it in a hot environment, it will lower the fan RPM which will make the fan quieter, and will actually help slightly with battery life as the faster the fan spins the more power it uses.
@gavinthomas8513 Жыл бұрын
@@scaryifliteral have to say, I experience thermal throttling if playing very high settings on warzone2.0, (on Windows 10) especially if playing off the battery, and that’s having applied kryonaut thermal paste. Have bought this backing plate to enable cranking up the settings again. On Steam OS, I haven’t found a temp issue
@d4rkst0rm16 Жыл бұрын
the bigger advantage is that the fan will run slower, resulting in quieter deck and marginally better battery
@kris2501100 Жыл бұрын
this thing could lower fan noise
@dorzlee6606 Жыл бұрын
The cooler underperforms with less power output
@cacao1312 Жыл бұрын
You should add a thermal pad and do a test again!
@scaryifliteral Жыл бұрын
There's a thermal pad directly under the spot amounted it to
@rajgill7576 Жыл бұрын
Dudr i got thr one without a fan and that metal back plate gets HOOOOT
@cristianJoker2512 Жыл бұрын
that fan can't do much , i have it on smartphone and barely keeping the smartphone worm while gaming but steam deck it's way more powerful for this cooler
@SgtKickAzzYT Жыл бұрын
Bro I have the blue transparent version and honestly I feel like my deck is even hotter now. I am running Cyberpunk 2077 at 89c WTF.... IT WASNT THAT BAD BEFORE. .. & the plate on the back that's for heat dissipation, will BURN THE FOOOOK OUTTA you, I have learned from experience.
@Stevens3D69 Жыл бұрын
It gets hotter when you play on the screen 😅
@scaryifliteral Жыл бұрын
Not significantly from what I saw testing
@FireGate_1311 ай бұрын
change the back plate is changing the hardware ?? ? omg..
@damonremy3568 Жыл бұрын
Clear back plate looks grest
@krisrobitzsch Жыл бұрын
That cooler pulls too much power to be powered by the steam deck. You need to retest with a 20w charger
@scaryifliteral Жыл бұрын
You should try watching the entire video before commenting.