I like this expositor. HE is one of the few I can listen to all the way through from one topic and study, to the next.

Thank you very much for the message on the Epic of Gilgamesh professor Gore. Great teaching.

It is interesting how the speaker asks, I don't know why Hollywood has picked up on this interesting story? The reason is they don't want us to think about real history or know the truth. Great video.

Just purchased your book Thank you Mr. Gore for all of your hard work through the years. I had not heard your name until I somehow stumbled upon your channel just a couple of weeks weeks ago. Browsing through the comment sections in several of your videos it is apparent that there are others who appreciate you as much As I am. Thanks again

The similarities of accounts makes perfect sense after considering Abraham came from Ur which is where Gilgamesh’s account was found. Every similarity confirms a similar source. Every difference confirms Mankind’s desire to pattern the God on Mankind as the ultimate tyrants.

I'm a Catholic and I have really enjoyed listening to your classes, hearing your perspective. Your presentations are really captivating and quite funny at times.

Gilgamesh travels extensively Just purchased your book Thank you Mr. Gore for all of your hard work

So engaging. Such a fantastic lecturer.

Liked your rendering of Gilgamesh. How profoundly human and inspiring,

Awesome presentation.

Great lecture!

Wow, this was amazing!

Bruce Gore you are a teacher by all standards of the word. I've visited not only this page, but your website also. And all I can see is a man determine to invest all he has in to the hearts and minds of those who want it.

Thank you so much professor for your presentation.

I can’t believe you left out the entire Bull of Heaven story. Ishtar tells Anu that Gilgamesh has spurned her advances and insulted her. She convinces her dad , Anu, to permit her to send the Bull of Heaven to punish Gilgamesh. Enkidu ends up killing the Bull and while dismembering it hurls a piece of flesh at Ishtar all while insulting her. THIS is the reason that Enkidu is sentenced to death - NOT because Gilgamesh insulted Ishtar.

This is incredible work. Thank you.

So interesting. Thank you

Gilgamesh: 2/3 god, 1/3 man, 100% Chad. Me: Suck at math

The Great Epic describes the "Advanced Beings" in the Middle East ! Gilgamesh travels extensively throughout the region! Happy New Year 😇

Mr. Gore, Happy Greetings again from Lisa (your student in Atlanta GA)! My sweet doggie pass of old age, hurt so bad. Finally got a new baby.... my best friend already. I named him Enkidu (inspired by your class) 😊. Big smiles from Enkidu and I.... and thank you again for posting your great (very helpful) classes!

Great presentation and insights thanks. Are there any ancient scriptures detailing Nimrod at all?

Maybe this was based on an actual meeting between a Mesopotamian ruler, Nimrod or someone else, that traveled to talk to Noah about his experience. If he truly lived as long as the bible says and everyones lives thereafter were shortenend he would have seemed like an immortal to his immediate descendants.

Hi Great lecture. I was hoping that you or someone could help with the date setting though of the said tablets. I appreciate that any good study on the Taldots of Genisis and the written accounts of Genealogies in Genisis disprove this fairy tale, but anything on other facts that show the tablets couldn't have been written prior to Genisis ch 6?

Thanks, you reminded me to read the Iliad again. If Utnapishtim is Nuabu/Zuabu/Ziusudara/Zin Sudu, Gilgamesh (Bilgamesh) would be of the same generation than Nimrod (Nemrut). I'm not saying they are the same historical figure but they must be at least relatives, at least cousins. If Utnapishtim were the grand father of Gilgamesh, the author would have simply put it. The use of "ancestry" instead of "grand father", it suggests that Utnapishtim was at least the "great grand father" of Gilgamesh.

I really wish more people knew about the Enuma Elish and the Epic of Gilgamesh! To me it makes the Old Testament more genuine and real. I could rant forever about this, but I'll just say that we as Christians NEED to recognize the existence of pagan gods or at least the power of idols. We need to take paganism as seriously as Abraham did.

I also love Ovid's representation of the Deacalian flood in the Metamorphosis.

Excellent

I am an atheist but I do like your presentations.

I feel so blessed to have come across this man of God and his teachings! Thank you Jesus and Holy Spirit led us into Your Truth!!❤🙌🙏

Almost every culture in the world has a great flood story. It is probable that there was a catastrophic flood in ancient times and stories were handed down orally before being written down. It does not follow that the story of Noah was copied from the epic of Gilgamesh. The Jewish people had probably been passing down the story of Noah orally for centuries before it was written down.

Great explanation of the differences in the psych of this non believer gilgamesch and noah....and the true facts. Facts explained is dependent on the way we see the world. I love the bible and i love jesus

Lots of great work done on this by Answers in Genesis, Creation Ministries International, and Institute for Creation Research. The Biblical account is clearly the inspiration for the Gilgamesh one-though written down later. The biblical narrative is clearly coherent and grounded realistic details, whereas aspects of Gilgamesh (e.g. a non-seaworthy box shaped boat) are distortions in the fashion of telephone telephone.

I am so glad I found these videos! So insightful! It makes my Bible reading so much richer! Thank you!

I am very curious of the time table here as it relates to when the epic was written, or when it took place compared to when the Biblical account of the flood was written in Genesis and then even compared against when Noah actually encountered the whole flood. I think it was explained to me that the time of the actual flood predated the Gilgamesh account.

I think it describes the creation of the Black Sea and the destruction of the Neolithic settlements there.Either way,it's a great story.

The similitudes between the flood of the Bible and that of Gilgamesh can not be underestimated. It is very likely that the Hebrews living in Summer/Babilon were very familiar with the Epic of Gilgamesh and adapt it to their needs and understanding of the world. The opposite is not an option.

This is a quote found on Wiki with the foot notes removed only: "Andrew George submits that the Genesis flood narrative matches that in Gilgamesh so closely that "few doubt" that it derives from a Mesopotamian account. What is particularly noticeable is the way the Genesis flood story follows the Gilgamesh flood tale "point by point and in the same order", even when the story permits other alternatives. In a 2001 Torah commentary released on behalf of the Conservative Movement of Judaism, rabbinic scholar Robert Wexler stated: "The most likely assumption we can make is that both Genesis and Gilgamesh drew their material from a common tradition about the flood that existed in Mesopotamia. These stories then diverged in the retelling." Ziusudra ("he who found long life"), Utnapishtim ("he who found life") and Noah ("he who found rest") are the respective heroes of the Sumerian, Akkadian and biblical flood legends of the ancient Near East. The tablets are dated 2600 BCE ... ...From the diverse sources found, two main versions of the epic have been partially reconstructed: the Standard Akkadian version, or He who saw the deep, and the Old Babylonian version, or Surpassing all other kings. Five earlier Sumerian poems about Gilgamesh have been partially recovered, some with primitive versions of specific episodes in the Akkadian version, others with unrelated stories.." The book of Genesis is often misunderstood to be 'the word of god'... here's a little hint of another possibility: "Genesis appears to be structured around the recurring phrase elleh toledot, meaning "these are the generations," with the first use of the phrase referring to the "generations of heaven and earth" "Since the 1970s there has been a revolution in scholarship: the Elohist source is now widely regarded as no more than a variation on the Yahwist, while the Priestly source is increasingly seen not as a document but as a body of revisions and expansions to the Yahwist (or "non-Priestly") material. .." My conclusion is these collections of stories were in fact continuously redacted to suit the political and governmental needs of the times and have been redacted ever since. There does not seem to be a 'original source' anywhere as our abilities to produce one are limited to what is found. Perhaps in some future date another more ancient copy will be discovered but never the less... They are ALL the words of men with agendas.

No man will ever know the truth of our past world so speculate, theorize, hypotheses and give lectures, but if will never be known!

I was hoping for a more discussion on how an earlier flood story does or doesn't discredit the Biblical account of Noah.

Nimrod might be Enmerkar who was king before Gilgamesh according to the Sumerian Kings List. Research Enmerkar and Lord Aratta

Galgamesh/GilGamesh. In kurdish means Gal/Gil= cloth, Ga= Bull or Gamesh means = Buffalo, Or Mesh= sheer fabric pertaining to skin. Bilgalgamesh: Bi= without, Ga= Bull, Gamesh= Buffalo, mesh= sheer fabric pertaining to skin.

It seems like the middle east around the time of the tower of Babel was pretty much dominated by the sons of Ham. There's Canaan, Heth (Hittites), Nimrod the son of Cush, as well as Egypt which seemed to extend to the land of Canaan until a certain point. Then there were the Phoenicians. Who were the Amorites descended from?

I found these astronomical metaphores interesting when I started reading them in the 1970's. The Noa's ark aspect and its statistics all describe the coordinates of chi and phi and how they relate to the production of a heptagon. We studied that in search of a universal mathematical formula that would give us all the answers.

It's just matching with this catastrophie now (around 36.00) ppl try to explain but at least god has everything in his hand.

I remember reading 2/3 god and 1/3 man.

How things have changed with the dating of Gobekli Tepe, Catyal Hyuk, etc. It is estimated that 600 men were required to build Gobekli Tepe, which would have come with wives and families... So Anatolia, 6500-8,500 BC, not Mesopotamia of 3000 BC, was the first attempt at cooperative living. It would be good to start here the roots of civilisation. Did they have their Gilgamesh?

Amen 👍

Greetings Sir. I'm from the Philippines...is yhwh is also a dragon ???

Very enjoyable lecture. One observation: The versionfrom which the professor reads Is the acclaimed prose synthesis by NK Sandars, A female scholar who studied at University of LLondon and Oxford University. Available in a Penguin Classics edition.

Excellent lecture and good to see a Christian dealing with the Sumerian texts. Do you think the similarities date the aouthorship of Genesis to during or after the Babylonian captivity?

Over 10 years ago and Mr. Bruce Gore says going paperless! I may have heard that over the same timeline, and I fought it (you need the hard copy in your hands, I felt) but our office has barely gotten to almost paperless NOW. AND we are a fairly large firm. Very good BG. NOW how about a study/lecture on the cult of Antinous, with shrines from Egypt to Germany and its competition with Christianity throughout Rome.

This man eludes to some very ancient secrets during this lecture. Very learnéd. I’m impressed.

jj The region of Sumer was long thought to have been first inhabited around 4500 BCE. This date has been contested in recent years, however, and it now thought that human activity in the area began much earlier The city of Uruk is held to be the first true city in the world. The cities in that area were founded, at least as villages, much earlier than c. 5000 BCE. After the Ubaid Period (c. 5000-4100 BCE) came the Uruk Period (4100-2900 BCE) in which cities began to emerge across the landscape and the city of Uruk rose in prominence. Though the period is named for the `first city’ of Uruk, Eridu was considered the first city by the Sumerians themselves, source: Kramer.

Hahahah! I laboriously created a tidy little play list for these lectures. And it was only THEN that I discovered.... lol! *le sigh

Bruce, thank you so much for the extremely high-quality of Bible teaching which I discovered a little over a month or two ago! While I am a conservative Bible believer and hold to the inspiration of all scripture (including the Book of Genesis), I differ with my conservative compatriots regarding the method by which Moses received the Book of Genesis. There is very strong textual evidence that Moses actually COMPILED the Book of Genesis from a collection of either stone or clay tablets handed down from the actual authors of each of their respective sections (Adam, Noah, etc.). In countless ancient cuneiform tablets, we find that the Title/Author/Date statements (called colophons) often appear at the end of the documents (as opposed to the beginning as we do in modern times). We find these colophons throughout the Book of Genesis (usually at the end of their respective sections, and sometimes appearing edited), but they notably and curiously cease with the story of Moses himself. These colophons are what are commonly referred to as toledoth (Heb. for "generations") statements. Typical of these is Genesis 5:1-2 {“This is the book of the generations (or “records”) of Adam. In the day when God created man, He made him in the likeness of God. He created them male and female, and He blessed them and named them Man in the day when they were created.”} If this explanation of the source of Genesis is correct (which, of course, I believe it is), it goes a long way in explaining many of the mysteries of Genesis [the seemingly stilted or incomplete phrasing of Genesis 2:5 (as if a corner of the tablet may have been inadvertently broken of), the oft-criticized two allegedly “conflicting” accounts of creation, the very orderly account of Creation in Genesis 1:1 through 2:4, the cessation of toledoth statements with the beginning of Moses personal account, etc.]. It also allows for the accounts in the Book of Genesis to be far older than any other similar accounts, including the Epic of Gilgamesh. A more complete (and far better) treatment of this theory can be found in the online article, “Who Wrote Genesis? Are the Toledoth Colophons?” by Charles V Taylor, M.A., Ph.D., PGCE, LRAM, FIL, Cert. Theol. Again, thank you for your very informative & highly-valuable teachings, and may God richly bless you!

Good presentation. There is no question there were floods. They lived in a river valley :) So.. Joseph goes into Egypt and shares with his a story of a particularly rough flood that was passed down since before Abram. The fact that this story is so similar to the biblical one suggests they both came from an earlier source but changed a bit over time as it is retold by peoples in a new land. Later, Moses includes that story in his new Monotheistic cult religion. I'm sure other stories like Daniel and the Lion, Samson and Delilah were passed down in similar fashion with a religious element added later.

This is not just made for movies it is most movies... You look at this and the enoch stuff and its basically the same as the epics of homer and star trek star wars the guardians of the galaxy dc and marvel universe starcraft and a lot more... at some level of magnification its either coming from or heading you to the nibaru alien visitor thing Making you want terminator genises and aliens and galactic federations and gaia ma ka, ma ga

Abraham was from Mesopotamia. He could have taken the story of Gilgamesh and the flood to his ppl.

Wow!

Good summary... I wish more people read the narrative in the bible. There be less to reason with people.

This is aliterally

why .. no one talk abut Siduri ?

I don't know if you've taken a look at the work of Rob Skiba, but it's pretty compelling stuff. I believe that Nimrod and Gilgamesh are one and the same, and I find him popping up in pretty much all ancient cultures. The stories are the same, only the name is different. And the name difference is easily explained if you believe that God split the nations into 70 different languages after the Tower of Babel.

There's good old Nimrod!!

Great work Proff. A little error there though. Gilgamesh was 2/3 god and 1/3 man.

Just thinking, is it possible there were actually two floods?

Huang Di first Emperor of China in 2500 BC has the flood story also! That is about or predates Gilgamesh?

The relative dimensions of the Biblical ark are identical to all modern large ships because they provide best stability. The Gilgamesh ship is round, less stable. The largest wood ship built was of the approximate size of the Biblical ark. How did the Hebrews, who weren't sea farers, come up with the exact dimensions for best stability and largest practical size of a wooden boat? I used to be an agnostic, with extensive STEM background, who decided to prove the Bible scientifically inaccurate. I am now a young earth creationist BECAUSE of the science.

CORONA GANG WHERE U AT

Hi Bruce, Where do you think the Chinese race originate? Are the the descendants of Ham (through Sin), Shem (through Joktan) or Japheth (through Kittim)? Regards

What was the book the prof was reading for the story of the flood?

Having reviewed this story, is the Noah account of the flood historical or not?

The acceptance of 1 God over the idea of a gaggle of gods, fighting with each other, means recognition that the world has order instead of being whimsical. From this, comes the idea of natural law and from that we derive Western science which is the envy of the world.

From what ive been reading Gilgamesh was 2 thirds god and one third man which made him greater than any other king because he was made with the best attributes of two gods instead of one and there was none like him and that is why enkidu was created. Also that is why hev was granted favors more than those less pure.

What edition of Gilgamesh are you reading from sir?

Enkidu is pronounced differently than the way he pronounced it. Also, I thought Enkidu was subjected to death because he delivered the fatal blow to the God of the forest? I have recently become interested and fascinated with this story, so I'm sorry for my inaccuracy, if any. Can someone explain why the stories are told differently? The first audio I listened to on this was from Audiobook and it was told a little differently I think....

"I speak of the origin. Heaven and earth divided in two as creation is eulogized by the void. My Sword of Rupture shall cleave the world asunder. The millstone that rotates the stars guides the eve of genesis to the hell that lies above. May death silence you. Enuma Elish!"

Well....how long were the bible stories being told before they finally got written down?

Poor little inky-doo.

Makes you wonder if he was a giant. The picture would seem to suggest that he was.

❤spears,... i have plenty!...some arrow grinding in you? Jesus is Lord! Thanks again Bruce. Thank you,your friend Jon.

A story created some 5000 Years ago can create such controversy. Who says history doesnt matter?

❤ see my comments in the debate here.

This guy seems to have a dramatic James Stewart sounding voice, does anybody agree with me.

I wonder how much the knowledge and interpretation of the biblical narrative has or had on the interpretation of the Epic of Gilgamesh ?

Earlier today I read a chapter from 'The Bible as History' by Keller describing Sir Charles Woolley's archaeological excavations at Ur with the Anglo-American Expedition that began in 1923. They dug a deep pit through various strata's beneath the 'Graves of the Kings' and discovered potsherds and vessels that had been turned on a potter's wheel. Then beneath this strata they struck a layer of pure clay that was 10ft deep and below that another strata of potsherds that were hand-made and clearly from a different era. Woolley telegrammed London with the words 'We have found the Flood'

The grandsons of Gilgamesh were here, Mesopotamia, the cradle of civilizations, when we hear the world speak of us with goodness, we know that we are people of two things, i am proud that I am from this country and i was born in the city of Your, where God wished me to be, my mother was pregnant with me, and in his journey to that historic city, I carry in my blood the fragrance of the four civilizations as if I were gilgames greeting you in this great lecture to a great person like King Gilgamesh.

If you suggest that Noha's story is real because it is accounted in the Epic of Gilgemesh, then one must also believe that the Epic of Gilgemesh is True. Are you actually saying it's not just a ancient piece of literature but a true story? If so, we must start praying to Ninsun, Shamash etc..How can you discredit that part of the Epic but take the flood story to be real ??????

Wasn’t the ‘boat’ in the Epic of Gilgamesh a 200 foot square cube with six levels? That was my understanding, which is just a little different from the description of Noah’s ark, which has been proven to be a seaworthy design.

1/3 god, 2/3 man? Nephilum?

Traditionally, the flood in the days of Noah is placed at around 2500 BC. If you take the scholarly estimate of the beginning of Mesopotamian civilization in ca. 3000 BC to be true, where in time would you place the flood? Would you place it right before the rise of Mesopotamia, and have that explain why this is when it begins?

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Genesis 6 says there were giants in those days and also after this, Nimrod I believe was a Nephilim

thank you for this very interesting well spoken me bad grammar

It should be noted that the reason that the LORD sent the flood was that he regretted making mankind: [Gen 6:7 CSB] [7] Then the LORD said, "I will wipe mankind, whom I created, off the face of the earth, together with the animals, creatures that crawl, and birds of the sky ​-- ​for I regret that I made them." We see the LORD also motivated by regret here: [1Sa 15:11 CSB] [11] "I regret that I made Saul king, for he has turned away from following me and has not carried out my instructions." So Samuel became angry and cried out to the LORD all night. I'm not sure if we are not intended to understand Noah as a righteous man who intercedes for humanity, and talks God out of destroying humankind entirely (which he said he intended to do), much the same as we see Moses convincing the LORD to spare his People: [Gen 6:7-8 NKJV] [7] So the LORD said, "I will destroy man whom I have created from the face of the earth, both man and beast, creeping thing and birds of the air, for I am sorry that I have made them." [8] But Noah found grace in the eyes of the LORD. [Jer 15:1 NASB95] [1] Then the LORD said to me, "Even though Moses and Samuel were to stand before Me, My heart would not be with this people; send them away from My presence and let them go! [Num 14:1o-20 NASB95] [19] "Pardon, I pray, the iniquity of this people according to the greatness of Your lovingkindness, just as You also have forgiven this people, from Egypt even until now." [20] So the LORD said, "I have pardoned [them] according to your word; And the reason that the LORD decided to give the rainbow covenant was the delightful smell of Noah's BBQ: [Gen 8:21 CSB] [21] When the LORD smelled the pleasing aroma, he said to himself, "I will never again curse the ground because of human beings, even though the inclination of the human heart is evil from youth onward. And I will never again strike down every living thing as I have done.

Well? Abram (Abraham) was from the land of Ur. Maybe he took the stories with him when he moved away and became the “father the Hebrews”

Amen

1000 years between Gilgamesh and Mose's account? I thought Gilgamesh was 18th century BC; Moses' 13 century BC. Looks more like 500 years, right?

My hamster's name is Gilgamesh...and he hates water! Go figure

Also, the term might Great Flood in Gilgamesh could refer to a supernova event. Possible?