The Tainted Order Of The Piercing Thorn - 40K Theories

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4 жыл бұрын

The Order of the Piercing Thorn was said to have been tainted in some way. But what sort of corruption befell it?
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@internetzenmaster8952
@internetzenmaster8952 4 жыл бұрын
*Eccelesiarch:* "But there's no such thing as a Canoness Errant..." *Commissar Yarrick:* "Go ahead and tell her that. I'll be over here... deep inside the safety of the Fortress of Arrogance." _Backs away slowly_
@Brutalyte616
@Brutalyte616 4 жыл бұрын
The Sororitas' hierarchical structure is extremely complex and confusing, as each Order possesses its own customs and organizational standards, so much so that entire orders within the Sororitas are tasked charge with keeping track of how the other orders function, both individually and in relation to the rest of organization's chain of command. It's sometimes said that the system is deliberately overcomplicated in order to dissuade espionage and subterfuge against the Sororitas.
@RohenBlackwolf
@RohenBlackwolf 4 жыл бұрын
That reminds me of Asterix and Obleix and the permint A38
@charlesman8722
@charlesman8722 4 жыл бұрын
*Adeptus Astares take one large step the the left*
@botbuilder6677
@botbuilder6677 4 жыл бұрын
@@charlesman8722 The Codex Astartes probably contains "Those more zealous than thou shalt have right of way towards thy nearest heretic.".
@Sidragrosm
@Sidragrosm 4 жыл бұрын
@Solarchos Don't go mentioning THAT to Ghazghkull..! That'd REALLY set him off on another *WAAAAAGGGGHHHH!!!!* ...and I don't think One-eyed Yarrick will like that either!
@jjvagnar1
@jjvagnar1 4 жыл бұрын
Also don't forget in the Commissar Yarick novel she gazed into the eyes of a Tzeentchian Daemon Prince. It's not exactly clear what it happened, but it tried to corrupt her with a flow of knowledge and visions that turned her eyes funny but she remained pure somehow, and told Yarrick it had given her 'perspective'. Maybe this made her immune or resistant to whatever tainted her sisterhood
@thishonestgrifter
@thishonestgrifter 3 жыл бұрын
Or it turned her into a sleeper agent, and she murdered her order on the orders of Tzeentch.
@StylesV13
@StylesV13 4 жыл бұрын
Plot twist. She was the one that actually fell to chaos and convinced the inquisition to destroy her order.
@notcreativeside
@notcreativeside 4 жыл бұрын
She was turned into a sleeper agent by the Alpha Legion, that's my theory.
@PLpatriot999
@PLpatriot999 4 жыл бұрын
@@notcreativeside she's alpharius
@RocketHarry865
@RocketHarry865 4 жыл бұрын
@@PLpatriot999 daughter?
@dmitriygryaznov9210
@dmitriygryaznov9210 4 жыл бұрын
@@RocketHarry865 Do you mean that figuratively, or have you forgotten that Primarchs are sterile and cannot have children? Unless Alpharius got Bile involved...
@ravezon
@ravezon 4 жыл бұрын
If that is true, then she probably the smartest of all they fell to the chaos afterall she still serving the imperium compare to all other that fall to chaos. I mean most who fell to chaos somehow started to do the dumb stuff like erect a temple to whichever god they follow, doing all the blood sacrifice and stuff that can get the inqusition start to perform extorminatus on the planet they on because the inqusition get lazy to go down and clear sector by sector of chaos taints, well unless the world have any importance to the imperium such as forge worlds and others.
@brandonaughtman9091
@brandonaughtman9091 4 жыл бұрын
Sisters of Battle: We are immune to the forces of Chaos! Miriael Sabathiel laughing: Hold my Bloody Mary.
@antoinecyr2833
@antoinecyr2833 4 жыл бұрын
To be fair, she did corrupt herself willingly. Does that still count.
@Just-J-10
@Just-J-10 4 жыл бұрын
I didn't realize that Miriael's story was canon. I read a lot of people brushing it off as a fan story at best and a twisted fantasy at worst.
@weldonwin
@weldonwin 4 жыл бұрын
@@Just-J-10 There was also at least on case of a Sister of Battle being posessed in the graphic novel Demonifuge
@Fireclaws10
@Fireclaws10 4 жыл бұрын
weldonwin I don’t really count being possessed as corruption if it isn’t willing.
@Just-J-10
@Just-J-10 4 жыл бұрын
@@Fireclaws10 Plenty of Inquisitors that wouldn't care if it was willing or not. They'd kill you just as quick.
@Venneroth
@Venneroth 4 жыл бұрын
Martian Techpriest: "The Sisters of Battle don't just have ONE traitor! They have MULTIPLE Traitors! And they HIDE it!" Astartes: *Quietly try to nudge Nine traitor Primarchs, nine traitor Legions and many renegade Chapters behind the sofa.* Titanicus: *Sweeps traitor Titan Legions under the rug.* Mechanicus: *Tosses a sheet over the Dark Mechanicum.* Inquisition: *Shoos radicals out of the room.* Regular Imperials: *Trillions of traitors whistle nonchalantly.* Sororitas: "I. Hate. All of you."
@gubbikiller
@gubbikiller 4 жыл бұрын
that is >Sethenos right there
@Koppu1doragon
@Koppu1doragon 4 жыл бұрын
Don't forget the Dark Angels not needing to do anything to hide the fallen at that moment because they've sent 10,000 years doing it already.
@jacthing1
@jacthing1 3 жыл бұрын
@@Koppu1doragon ASMODAI
@Koppu1doragon
@Koppu1doragon 3 жыл бұрын
@@jacthing1 *Cough* Asmodai *Cough*
@jacthing1
@jacthing1 3 жыл бұрын
@@Koppu1doragon MAKE HIM REPENT
@troabarton69
@troabarton69 4 жыл бұрын
Is it possible the canonness was really the one who was corrupted, and this corruption caused her to think her order was corrupted and have them killed?
@pubcle
@pubcle 4 жыл бұрын
That would be terrible writing. A character has to be willing to fall, and it would be one HELL of a character swing to make her fall to Chaos, it would be like Dorn arguing against fortifications.
@tttheemeraldsword7528
@tttheemeraldsword7528 4 жыл бұрын
@@pubcle She didn't do it then. Dorn loves forts
@Szopjale1
@Szopjale1 4 жыл бұрын
No it isn't possible to being corrupted and have fun with the Grey Knights aftermath.
@JPLOWMAN2
@JPLOWMAN2 4 жыл бұрын
She doesn’t necessarily have to fall to Chaos to be corrupted. She could just become so paranoid in her blind faith and devotion that she could potentially see the others as not being ‘pure’ enough, and just snap. We are talking about religious zealots after all
@grazzer88
@grazzer88 4 жыл бұрын
​@@JPLOWMAN2 Yeah, but that doesn't make sense considering it was a one off affair. Stories of that type always wind up escalating until self-destruction where-as she went on to be a stable individual. Like when Gabriel Angelos called down Exterminatus on his own home world, he didn't show any signs of increased paranoia or activity of that kind after-the-fact.
@DaRi0tpain
@DaRi0tpain 4 жыл бұрын
Now I want to create a Khornate Warband with a Sororitas as my HQ choice. My poor wallet
@theemissary1313
@theemissary1313 4 жыл бұрын
Check out Wargames Exclusive website for chaos sisters :)
@jackdaalfbrainork6392
@jackdaalfbrainork6392 4 жыл бұрын
Reveris *laughing in money*
@brotheralaric7177
@brotheralaric7177 4 жыл бұрын
@@theemissary1313 i've checked it, and personnaly i found their models very ugly. i prefer the models of raging heroes.
@01oo011
@01oo011 4 жыл бұрын
F... you heretic!
@robthehitmanrude
@robthehitmanrude 4 жыл бұрын
@@theemissary1313 those chaos trophy corpses could look good in a chaos knight.
@octy63
@octy63 4 жыл бұрын
I can see some Slaaneshi corruption involved in the order. Since slaanesh appears as the epitomy of beauty to the beholder, a greater demon could take the form of the Emperor, prey upon the adoration and worship of the sisters and begin to corrupt them, without them realizing it.
@TheKing-qz9wd
@TheKing-qz9wd 4 жыл бұрын
Good point but wouldn't they realise that the Emporer is supposed to be on his throne?
@sessy01
@sessy01 4 жыл бұрын
That would be a LOT of bling to try and imitate for a demon
@informationyes
@informationyes 4 жыл бұрын
@@TheKing-qz9wd They might just see it as a miracle and the BIG E returning
@TheKing-qz9wd
@TheKing-qz9wd 4 жыл бұрын
@@informationyes Yeah they superstitous enough
@Gitskreig
@Gitskreig 4 жыл бұрын
There was also that time in the Cain book The Traitor's Hand where an entire convent of sisters were converted to Chaos worship along with the whole planet they were on over the duration of a single speech. To be fair though, Varan had a mind-control voice that was silly levels of cheating and the moment a null came nearby, it wore off immediately. Said sisters then suddenly came to their senses and threw themselves off a building in despair.
@Shockwave33
@Shockwave33 4 жыл бұрын
That was Cains Last Stand. Not traitors hand. Traitors hands is when he bitch slapped two world eater legionnaires.
@Matt-md5yt
@Matt-md5yt 4 жыл бұрын
thanks for covering a Nuns with Bolters(Guns) theory video today.
@gabrielm.942
@gabrielm.942 4 жыл бұрын
Correction they’re the Bolter Bitches.
@big_daddy_d1547
@big_daddy_d1547 3 жыл бұрын
@@gabrielm.942 no
@viewernewest
@viewernewest 4 жыл бұрын
12:45 geez, and I thought the Dark Angels went to extremes to keep their secret shame a secret.
@joeavreg2254
@joeavreg2254 4 жыл бұрын
Well I don't think the Adeptus Sororitas has killed a planet to keep their secrets... Then again they seem to be better at keeping those secrets.
@viewernewest
@viewernewest 4 жыл бұрын
@@joeavreg2254 that we know of...😎
@Zero01k
@Zero01k 4 жыл бұрын
Still going to give it to the Dark Angels on the level of autism they goto to keep a secret
@bradenalder9016
@bradenalder9016 4 жыл бұрын
@@viewernewest you mean the blood Angel's?
@PLpatriot999
@PLpatriot999 4 жыл бұрын
So if sororitas claim that there are no heretics among them, they should get along with dark angels
@johnfraire6931
@johnfraire6931 4 жыл бұрын
@Anzu Wyliei You've just described why _no one_ in the Imperium can ever work together
@ianross8083
@ianross8083 4 жыл бұрын
Knowing 40k, both factions are paranoid enough that if either of them found out about each others heresy, they'd probably kill each other *BLAM* NO HERESY HERE. THIS YOUNG MAN WAS SPREADING LIES ABOUT THE DARK ANGELS. WE ARE LOYAL TO THE EMPEROR AND THE EMPEROR ALONE
@weldonwin
@weldonwin 4 жыл бұрын
Crazy Drunk Inquisitor Lady: Broodlord Kuuuuuuuuuun... *(Passes Out)*
@themostloyalorange5209
@themostloyalorange5209 4 жыл бұрын
The crazy drunk inquisotor lady is the Inquisitorial representative of the Ordo Xeno if I remember well so would that mean that most the Ordo xeno is part of a Jeanstealer cult?
@Hargrovius
@Hargrovius 4 жыл бұрын
@@themostloyalorange5209 She was from Hereticus, they overlap with Xenos when it comes to Genestealers. Kryptman represents Ordo Xenos in TTS.
@Duppyman695
@Duppyman695 3 жыл бұрын
"Genesteallers"
@weldonwin
@weldonwin 3 жыл бұрын
@@Duppyman695 No, Jeanstealers, they steal your denim trousers
@-Big_Big
@-Big_Big 4 жыл бұрын
there was a sale on new combat boots which caused the sudden split in the order, and she had no choice but to destroy them all.
@trevorberryhill2398
@trevorberryhill2398 4 жыл бұрын
Size 13 women's power armor boots are no joke!
@davidk6269
@davidk6269 4 жыл бұрын
Genestealers infecting extremely-fetching-armored-bodice-wearing hotties with the compulsion to mate? What could possibly go wrong?
@robertnelson9599
@robertnelson9599 4 жыл бұрын
The Grey Knights are the only ones capable of resisting the lure of Chaos, all others shall fall whether they mean to or not. A perfect example of 40K's grimdarkness.
@zenoblues7787
@zenoblues7787 4 жыл бұрын
Slaanesh and him/her/it's silver knight would like a word with you
@zenoblues7787
@zenoblues7787 4 жыл бұрын
But in all honesty it's theorized by some that Grey Knights do fall to Chaos it's just their battle brothers kill them very soon after preventing Chaos Grey Knights from being a thing.
@unintentionallydramatic
@unintentionallydramatic 4 жыл бұрын
Eh.
@anthonyh4745
@anthonyh4745 4 жыл бұрын
Sisters of silence and other "blanks" are incorruptible too.
@paulpolito2001
@paulpolito2001 4 жыл бұрын
I may be off, but it’s my understanding that at least one Grey Knight serves Chaos (Slaanesh? Undivided? Icr); and there’s that one Sister that was all like “sure, I’m in”, too. I think in these cases, willingness to be corrupted is fairly consistent. Blanks/Nulls/Pariahs should be unable to meaningfully interact w/ the Warp, though... at least till the next reconia. At least it may make Matt Ward cry, the GK thing, that is. E: fuck autocorrect
@Kaimariification
@Kaimariification 4 жыл бұрын
Conspiracy theory: the taint was the sisters obtaining copies of Ian Watson’s books, including “Inquisitor Draco”. The convent enjoyed the books so much that they were looking to get into other series like “Twilight” or “40k shades of Green” along with getting a book club up and going to spread the word of them to the other Sisters of Battle once they saw them. But thank the Emperor the Canoness found out and knew what had to be done.
@Tiberon098
@Tiberon098 4 жыл бұрын
I’d gladly submit to a Sister of Battle if she wanted to “copulate”, though I’m kinda scared of how rough she’d get.
@Khornecussion
@Khornecussion 3 жыл бұрын
Shattered pelvis. It's times like that I would be glad that my hips already necrosed and I have metal hips, because only metal would withstand that pent up aggression and repressed sexual frustration. Yikes.
@RedPilgrim.
@RedPilgrim. 4 жыл бұрын
She's probably corrupted and was found out by her sisters. before she could be confronted...the inquistion came to assault the order, leaving no witiness alive. Or she could be a badass nun, like Ephrael Stern.
@hades0097
@hades0097 4 жыл бұрын
maybe she mistook the red rage as a sign of corruption? edit: maybe she was the one who was actually corrupted and had her order butchered?
@dannyavarice
@dannyavarice 4 жыл бұрын
Well crap. At least I know that I'm not the only one who came to realize that was a possibility. lol
@hades0097
@hades0097 4 жыл бұрын
@@dannyavarice the only flaw in that theory is that she goes on for quite some time and doesn't really become chaos-y. Maybe Yarrick's latent WAGH powers kept her "pure"
@Ajehy
@Ajehy 4 жыл бұрын
Phil McCracken - mine is the Red Weeping. And the Red Gimme Chocolate. No woman would mistake that for signs of chaos, though some men might. Also, fun fact, they don’t synchronize. Everyone just has different lengths, so it might seem like they are coming together but that’s just an illusion.
@livingdaybyday3469
@livingdaybyday3469 4 жыл бұрын
While not required to remain celibate few sisters find time to take advantage of the fact. Me- sounds about right
@aeterna789
@aeterna789 4 жыл бұрын
Living Day by day hahahaha best thing I’ve read all day.
@Johnpinckney98
@Johnpinckney98 4 жыл бұрын
Get a dialogous in a room with her studies and help her with her work. In a few days Bam, quickies on the daily!
@InquisitorMatthewAshcraft
@InquisitorMatthewAshcraft 4 жыл бұрын
@@Johnpinckney98 I'm in, lol.
@informationyes
@informationyes 4 жыл бұрын
Sister julian who was a retired celestian who had to go back into combat due to an invasion was having relations with some admin clark although not exactly openly
@EthanKristopherHartley
@EthanKristopherHartley 3 жыл бұрын
Am I the only person who thought "that's a very lonely author coming up with that rule!" 😁
@blackshadow518
@blackshadow518 4 жыл бұрын
I see so many comments speculating that the real traitor is her, but that doesn’t make any sense. If that were the case, she wouldn’t still be fighting heretics in the name of the emperor. Plus she fought with they grey knights, who surely would’ve found her out were she a traitor...
@israelgallegos6810
@israelgallegos6810 4 жыл бұрын
#Quotes-By bolter shell, flamer burst and melta blast, the mutant, the heretic and the traitor alike are cleansed of their sin of existence. So has it been for five millennia, so shall it be unto the end of time. - Words of Devotion, Verses IV-V, Chapter X, Volume LII 🙌🙏🙌 🛐
@dwreanchinotan
@dwreanchinotan 4 жыл бұрын
someone put the toilet paper roll on the wrong way. this could not be overlooked
@Del_S
@Del_S 4 жыл бұрын
Serentho: Where's my tea? Sister Superior: We're all out. Serentho: ...That's it, I'm burning this place down.
@Duppyman695
@Duppyman695 3 жыл бұрын
*Genestealers*
@Del_S
@Del_S 3 жыл бұрын
@@Duppyman695 The Genestealers drank all the tea?
@sexualyeti7023
@sexualyeti7023 4 жыл бұрын
Dat Orders Famulous tho...
@willrogers3793
@willrogers3793 4 жыл бұрын
Meanwhile, at GW Headquarters, c. 995 M2: “Hey, so you know how we’ve already hammered out the basic lore for the Sisters of Battle?” “Yeah?” “And you know how we decided there’d be multiple Orders within the SoB performing multiple roles within the Imperium?” “Uh-huh?” “And you know how each of those Orders is basically a nod to a certain kink? Like, Orders Militant for the whole ‘sexy nun’ thing and Hospitalers for the whole ‘sexy nurse’ thing?” “Yeah...are you going somewhere with this, dude?” “Okay, so hear me out: What if we add on another Order as a nod to the whole ‘sexy housemaid’ thing, y’know, broaden the market appeal even further?” “...Sounds good to me. But only if we also make one as a nod to sexy librarians.” “Oh, I’m waaaay ahead of you on that one. 😏”
@informationyes
@informationyes 4 жыл бұрын
Think Mary Poppins but scary as hell and she definitely won't be teaching them that magic is everywhere
@Stronghand-yw1lk
@Stronghand-yw1lk 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you kindly dear Theorist for you have just provided me with the perfect antagonist for a Warth and Glory campaign I'll be running.
@SuperDaemonBane
@SuperDaemonBane 4 жыл бұрын
That gene stealer bit....inspired a hell of a hentai game design....
@Blacktemplewarrior
@Blacktemplewarrior 4 жыл бұрын
🤔 which one?
@SuperDaemonBane
@SuperDaemonBane 4 жыл бұрын
@@Blacktemplewarrior ah pardon my bad English. I meant it inspired ME with one hell of a hentai game design.
@jeremyfeldmann7969
@jeremyfeldmann7969 4 жыл бұрын
So when us it coneing out
@informationyes
@informationyes 4 жыл бұрын
Gene stealers bread through their mouth
@hughgedney3393
@hughgedney3393 4 жыл бұрын
A very extremely awesome video as always 40k Theories.
@gageisbell4338
@gageisbell4338 4 жыл бұрын
What I like is that there are stories of Sister and Space Marines that fall in love and will go rouge or even chaos (divided or singular devotion) as to keep being with Each other. I love purging and gore as much as the next Black Templar and Cararodoon but I'm still a suck for romance
@KingLich451
@KingLich451 Жыл бұрын
how the heck does a space marine even have feelings of romance? not even ian watson went that far
@milliondollarmistake
@milliondollarmistake 10 ай бұрын
@@KingLich451 Even Slaanesh has trouble giving space marines the ability to get pleasure from sex. That's why they're usually obsessed with sounds and drugs
@alecchaitawsome
@alecchaitawsome 4 жыл бұрын
Love your videos!! Please keep them up!
@kingbaldwiniv5409
@kingbaldwiniv5409 4 жыл бұрын
This is an interesting question. I do not know. It is unlikely a genestealer cult because individual free time is rare for the sisters. Even if it were to take hold with some sister, leave and free time being so rare, her sisters would observe differences in her. I know this from my own time in service. Her sisters would see it, they would know. It could be due to their familiarity with xenos culture and language. They could have been TOO interested.
@mercenarygundam1487
@mercenarygundam1487 4 жыл бұрын
The taint is the Red Rage.
@TheSeanoops
@TheSeanoops 4 жыл бұрын
Armored mecha worst time of the month.
@pubcle
@pubcle 4 жыл бұрын
The Daemons of Khorne will eat you out like ice cream sandwiches.
@weldonwin
@weldonwin 4 жыл бұрын
@@pubcle *(Sound of breaking glass)* That is literally the worst thing you could have said... Thank you
@charlesman8722
@charlesman8722 4 жыл бұрын
weldonwin why if a Blood angel is effected with the Red thirst when a sister is going through the black rage?
@Gillemear
@Gillemear 4 жыл бұрын
I like to think that the Order was actually following the Temple Tendency from the Dark Hersey Role-playing game. These are the remnants of the original Temple of the God-Emperor who eventually became the Eclessiarchy. They were reformed by Sebastian Thorne after Van Dire's reign of blood. However, some chose not to follow Thorne's reforms. This makes the Pierced Thorn a heretical sect in the true meaning of the word as well as giving some ulterior meaning to their order' s name. (Sorry for any spelling mistakes btw)
@urbanesoul8400
@urbanesoul8400 4 жыл бұрын
Great vid. I didn't know much about the Sisters & enjoyed this.
@Hurricanelive
@Hurricanelive 3 жыл бұрын
Leaves toilet seat up... Convent goes stark raving mad and falls to chaos
@Warboss_Thrakka_Snazzfingas
@Warboss_Thrakka_Snazzfingas 4 жыл бұрын
GOOD MUSIC CHOICE FOR THR BACKGROUND SOUNDTRACK REMLAIZ!! GOOD OLD DOW2
@donperez8774
@donperez8774 4 жыл бұрын
And putting the Sisters of Battle in Dawn of War 2 Retribution or a hero unit for the arena would have made the game even better. Then again, the Dark Eldar, as well as the Tau and Necron armies didn't get their fair shot in that epic game.
@grantkruger3689
@grantkruger3689 Жыл бұрын
That habit of concealing sisters lost to corruption could itself attract the attention of the Alpha Legion, who might, in disguise of course, offer expertise in concealing losses 😬
@EmpPeng2k7
@EmpPeng2k7 4 жыл бұрын
So the order were hunters of often forbidden knowledge. could it be that the order was tainted by some piece of knowledge they sought or the artifact containing the knowledge.
@vampaq
@vampaq 4 жыл бұрын
They send kill teams By the emperor they better get Rules when they come out! XD
@fumarc4501
@fumarc4501 4 жыл бұрын
Cannot wait for the new The Lost and The Damned Codex supplement. Including but not limited to; Chaos IG, Chaos SB, and Beastmen.
@akiramasashi9317
@akiramasashi9317 4 жыл бұрын
Slaanesh showed them *HIS* piercing thorn. That's why they fell.
@Fourtytwo4242
@Fourtytwo4242 4 жыл бұрын
IT'S*
@lamb_link
@lamb_link 4 жыл бұрын
42 42 Slaanie boy is whatever you wanna call him.
@paulpolito2001
@paulpolito2001 4 жыл бұрын
In a great example of why Slaanesh getting killed off would be GREAT for the franchise, from a PR standpoint: Xe is actually a Hermaphrodite (w/ working male & female genitalia), so... yeah. GRIMDARK! Yes, iirc, this is very much canon.
@akiramasashi9317
@akiramasashi9317 4 жыл бұрын
@thekangarooboxer That's impossible. The Chaos gods were born during the 2nd millennium in the middle ages, barring Slaanesh who was born thousands upon thousands of years later when the Eldar murderfucked it into existence and blew away the warp storms, allowing Daddy E to launch his crusade. Khorne was born first during the crusades, then came Nurgle with the black death killing 1/3rd of Europe, and lastly (for a while at least) Tzeentch during the age of discovery. The only Daemon to even come close to the time period of Adam and Eve would be Drach'nyen, who was created when Cain committed the first act of murder.
@commanderfarsight2351
@commanderfarsight2351 4 жыл бұрын
@@paulpolito2001 it is not a Xe. Slaneesh is a Futa.
@cp1cupcake
@cp1cupcake 4 жыл бұрын
In Cain's Last Stand, there was an order which was mind-controlled by a chaos sorcerer. There is evidence though that it wasn't necessarily complete corruption as many of those who were controlled by him suicided once they horror ended.
@jonahtexhex2835
@jonahtexhex2835 4 жыл бұрын
Same issue with a single member of the Order of the Martyred Lady joined the Repentia after a psyker Vonn used her to "test drive" his powers basically breaking her in the novel "Faith & Fire".
@BlizzardofKnives
@BlizzardofKnives 4 жыл бұрын
Don't get me started on the Last Candle...(from Requiem Infernal)
@internetzenmaster8952
@internetzenmaster8952 4 жыл бұрын
Hey, that order's entire convent was built on top of the 40k equivalent of "Indian Burial Ground". They were kinda screwed from the get-go.
@mrbearbear83
@mrbearbear83 4 жыл бұрын
Or the cannoness is tainted and her order knew.
@theemissary1313
@theemissary1313 4 жыл бұрын
I reckon it was some of the sisters seeing Stheno as a starch arsed task master and when she left they let their hair down, slept in a few mornings and had a couple of parties. When Stheno came back, probably forgot her purse, she saw their laxity and decided to erase it. What happens in Vegas stays in Vegas kind of thing. With added bombardment from orbit. To make sure...
@bohba13
@bohba13 4 жыл бұрын
I think this order is the exception that proves the rule. If chaotic, then it shows that not even the the most pure are safe from the call of chaos.
@Darksmirk1
@Darksmirk1 4 жыл бұрын
40K Theories: regarding the Sisters of Battle. Will we ever hear about the Clone soldiers from the story of Red & Black??... What happened to them? Will they return as “ Space Marine “ type Sisters? Or has the Inquisition put them on Ice?
@donperez8774
@donperez8774 4 жыл бұрын
I'm surprised more Sisters of Battle don't fall to Khorne when given orders to eliminate civilians (Dawn of War Soulstorm mentions numerous times locals are taken out by the Sisters). Nurgle is another you would think would have collected a shock team of fallen battle sisters, considering viral infections and hordes of unclean. Tzeentch? Doesn't seem to be its crowd.
@TheMemphisxlr8
@TheMemphisxlr8 4 жыл бұрын
Gotta love those loopholes ;)
@badgamemaster
@badgamemaster 4 жыл бұрын
Sebastian Thor was a master troll
@supercellodude
@supercellodude 4 жыл бұрын
Here's the thing about keeping secrets, these adepta who conceal corruption can be spun into the plans of the Architect of Fate. Even those who claim purity shall transgress against the Emperor to survive
@konradregiec1665
@konradregiec1665 4 жыл бұрын
What's the music theme you are using right after intro?
@Farseer1995
@Farseer1995 4 жыл бұрын
What is the background chanting called? I remember it was from DoW2... blast you, now I'll have to replay the game again.
@94EyeEagle
@94EyeEagle 4 жыл бұрын
that one genestealer must have given one hell of a tounge-job to score an infestation..
@hexwrench4433
@hexwrench4433 4 жыл бұрын
You know Logar is laughing.
@Duppyman695
@Duppyman695 3 жыл бұрын
Lorgar "I was worshiping The God Emperor when you girlz were in nappies"
@Kingofthekaiju
@Kingofthekaiju 4 жыл бұрын
Cult of the Spiral Dawn. A sister falls to the GSC, and becomes its patron saint. In the epilogue, (which turns out to be the prequel) the sister saves the cult numerous times and her legacy is renowned throughout the GSCs following years. :O
@Gormathius
@Gormathius 3 жыл бұрын
12:36 Wait, hold on... So let's say Margaret falls to corruption. Then Sybille takes on the identity of Margaret to cover this up. How do they explain the disappearance of Sybille? Does Emma take on the Identity of Sybille? Then what about Emma? Is this a turtles all the way down situation?
@Audiotrocious
@Audiotrocious 4 жыл бұрын
Eldar music in the background from DoW2? HERESY!
@robthehitmanrude
@robthehitmanrude 4 жыл бұрын
Sooo, does that armor still give a 3+ save?
@tttheemeraldsword7528
@tttheemeraldsword7528 4 жыл бұрын
the NWG (Nuns with guns) finally!
@pyrokine1868
@pyrokine1868 2 жыл бұрын
She only wants what's best for the emperor, she fought to stop the Black Dragons chapter being investigated by the Inquisition. And made an inquisitor quake where he stood. Awesome character 👌
@unintentionallydramatic
@unintentionallydramatic 4 жыл бұрын
Honestly? I suspect it's 'Cron stuff or Heretek things meant to upgrade their skills vs psykers demons or just generally other enemies.
@deven6518
@deven6518 4 жыл бұрын
I hate how the inquisition have suits of armor that they cant physically fit in. I mean, your elbows are in your biceps
@alexanderbraun7887
@alexanderbraun7887 4 жыл бұрын
My wager is that the Piercing Thorn wasn't corrupted/tainted at all. In the novell Imperial Creed Setheno recieves "knowledge" of the future by a deamon of tzeentch on Mistral. Yarrick resists the demon, Seetheno does not. Maybe tzeentch just decieved her, if that was where her conviction of the taint came from. A false truth implanted in her head An entire holy Order exterminated by a chaos god, using the hubris of a single sister superior. Grindark enough I would say
@dricsi07
@dricsi07 4 жыл бұрын
Now we need Chaos Sister codex! XD
@NetMoverSitan
@NetMoverSitan 4 жыл бұрын
1:04 - Yeah, it's specifically stated that. | 2:48 - They're resistant to chaos (more so than most) but not immune. | 5:24 - Black Dragons would be a grey area as they could be considered mutants, due to them having bone blades like Baraka..."One-eye" Yarrick, he knows how to fight Orks. | 5:45 - They can certainly be infected by that. | 10:00 - I'm guessing that it's more Nurgle's Rot, as killing them at that point would be doing them a favour, better that and dying of the disease and being reborn of Plaguebearer daemons, although there's one corrupted by Slaanesh...as for Khorne, those that lose control of themselves succumb to that.
@GentlemanKane
@GentlemanKane 4 жыл бұрын
Whenever genestealers are mentioned.... "Gussy"
@Khornecussion
@Khornecussion 3 жыл бұрын
**SLAMS TABLE** NOOOOOOOOOO!
@borisp9988
@borisp9988 4 жыл бұрын
I wonder how would sister of battle with all the hate for mutants and impurity, especially such exceptionally fanatical one like her, be able to fight alongside Black Dragons marines?
@brotheralaric7177
@brotheralaric7177 4 жыл бұрын
Haha 2:48, it's Miriya from the omnibus novels "sister of battle", but did you change her hair color ? on the book cover she have black hair . Anyway, for those who didn't readi it, go for it, it's excellent. that book throne on my bedside table in compagny of ravenor and eiseinhorn
@40KTheories
@40KTheories 4 жыл бұрын
I didn't change the hair colour, no. To be honest I didn't even initially notice the difference in hair colour. From my understanding it is an early version of the final art used.
@brotheralaric7177
@brotheralaric7177 4 жыл бұрын
@@40KTheories Ho, ok, i didn't know that, thanks for the info.
@michaelhowell2326
@michaelhowell2326 4 жыл бұрын
I know it's a bit off topic, but have any of the Wulfen or marines that have succumbed to the black rage or Red Thirst fallen to Chaos?
@michaelhowell2326
@michaelhowell2326 4 жыл бұрын
@Anzu Wyliei but can they fall to Chaos after they have been afflicted by the Curse of the Wulfen, the Red Thirst or Black Rage?
@oatlord
@oatlord 4 жыл бұрын
What is being said during the intro song?
@robertwareham8466
@robertwareham8466 4 жыл бұрын
Another possibility not mentioned is that she became so obsessed with the purity of her sisterhood that she saw taint even where there was none. Perhaps the Piercing Thorn was simply the victim of the vengeful fantasies of a cracked zealot mind? Or perhaps I'm just talking heresy...
@jmagowan12
@jmagowan12 4 жыл бұрын
I wonder was this Sisters video, a long time coming? Haha
@headlibrarian1996
@headlibrarian1996 4 жыл бұрын
If the Imperium had an honest justice system, "women aren't men at arms" would not be a loophole.
@richardlabelle2291
@richardlabelle2291 4 жыл бұрын
So the cannoness condemned her whole order for a corruption she was convinced of and whiped them out ... so she was a 40k Darth Vader
@brokenrooster4338
@brokenrooster4338 4 жыл бұрын
"Hey I heard your oder is tainted!" "By the emperor I must purge them brb" Maybe she was lied to about the taint and went back to purge because someone was afraid of her taking the position.
@ryanspencer2844
@ryanspencer2844 4 жыл бұрын
Wouldn't the easiest answer be that one of the sisters who accompanied Sethano and survived the fight with the demon prince in the catacombs on Mistral (See "Imperial Creed," by David Anannandale) succumbs to the taint and slowly worked to spread it amongst her sisters? Although it isn't said outright, it is pretty much implied that the same thing happened to Yarrick's mentor Lord Commissar Rask after he survived the same ordeal.
@40KTheories
@40KTheories 4 жыл бұрын
That is a decent possibility :)
@ryanspencer2844
@ryanspencer2844 4 жыл бұрын
@@40KTheories Thanks man!
@jerkfacefuckasaurusrex328
@jerkfacefuckasaurusrex328 4 жыл бұрын
Well that's fuckin awesome.
@michaelhowell2326
@michaelhowell2326 4 жыл бұрын
How quickly do genestealers multiply to four generations? Do they gestate like a normal human or is it extremely ramped up?
@40KTheories
@40KTheories 4 жыл бұрын
Genestealer Hybrids grow ridiculously fast. According to "The Greater Evil" a T'au/Genestealer hybrid was the size of a pre-teen child after just 3 weeks.
@highlandoutsider8148
@highlandoutsider8148 4 жыл бұрын
Is it possible that she was actually the only member of her order to become tainted? Wiping out a highly skilled order would be one hell of an offering to her new gods ...
@Quasimodo-mq8tw
@Quasimodo-mq8tw 4 жыл бұрын
I think see lost it then one of her order mess up saying "bless you";)
@dinocha0s
@dinocha0s 4 жыл бұрын
I know people have said this before, but theres also the plot twist that she is the one who is corrupted lmao But na this is 40k we need badases like her around to keep fighting demons and mosnters
@creaturetransylvania8943
@creaturetransylvania8943 4 жыл бұрын
Dang.
@-Big_Big
@-Big_Big 4 жыл бұрын
i just cant see how a sister infected could possibly keep it secret at all. firstly getting pregnant. keeping it secret for the duration. somehow keeping a genestealer hidden in/near the sisterhood?? nah.
@irondiver2034
@irondiver2034 4 жыл бұрын
Well, well, well. So my dark angels aren’t the only ones keeping secrets? New to me didn’t know.
@Neoentrophy
@Neoentrophy 4 жыл бұрын
What if the Cannoness was corrupted and ordered the raising of the order to eliminate the loose ends?
@ShidaiTaino
@ShidaiTaino 4 жыл бұрын
12:37 that’s some first legion shit right there
@dannyavarice
@dannyavarice 4 жыл бұрын
I mean, lesser things have happened to warrant an eradication of an entire (once friendly) army to the Imperium, but it does seem oddly convenient for the Piercing Thorns' cannoness to be away during the initial corruption. It wouldn't surprise me if she was actually tainted and sought sacrifice to (most likely) Khorne. And what better sacrifice than that of her entire sisterhood while she remains completely clear of any persecution, distrust, or even suspicion. Khorne isn't picky about who is killed in his name, the only thing that matters is the death itself. Just an alternative possibility (although highly unlikely).
@skylark306
@skylark306 4 жыл бұрын
Khorne however, does not appreciate skulls earned through deceptions as much. Especially not from someone pretending to be a corpse-emperor worshipper.
@dannyavarice
@dannyavarice 4 жыл бұрын
@@skylark306 That's very true. That's probably the largest flaw in my theory. Khorne isn't comparable to Tzeench or Slaanesh in the slightest. Now that I think about it, Nurgle and Khorne detest deception. Nurgle would rather have the civilization rot from within and Khorne is rather honorable, despite his insatiable bloodlust. With that in mind, I think it's safe to say that the Cannoness is pure. I apologize I'm not that familiar with the lore of the Eclesiarchy.
@Belicure
@Belicure 4 жыл бұрын
Sororitas being infected by genestealers sounds hot
@Duppyman695
@Duppyman695 3 жыл бұрын
Sick minds think alike !
@TheSmalltownhick
@TheSmalltownhick 4 жыл бұрын
It was an act of vengeance against the Canoness. Someone poisoned her order while she was on Terra, and forced her to destroy her own sisterhood.
@informationyes
@informationyes 4 жыл бұрын
Mary Poppins from the Ordo Famulous, meets her newest charge "Hello kids how what imagination you have, we shall have to deal with that wront we and also remember Magic is heresy"
@ShionWinkler
@ShionWinkler 3 жыл бұрын
Emperor of man: I am most certain these Sisters of Battle are sensible and rational people. Custode: yessss... sensible and rational, yes those are...... words......
@leatherjacket9
@leatherjacket9 4 жыл бұрын
Here is a theory (unfounded and maybe unprecedented for sisters if battle). The order was not tainted, but Setheno was tainted. The order resisted this taint and Setheno made her move to have the order eliminated, using her power and influence to move upon her own order before they could move against her. Setheno with Inquisitor like power had them all eliminated. Now she is free to travel the Galaxy as a Canonness Errant and spread the taint (genestealer or chaos), wherever she goes.
@gwyndolin1536
@gwyndolin1536 4 жыл бұрын
Yay! Battle Nuns!
@jadedkratos5528
@jadedkratos5528 4 жыл бұрын
Why does the Order Hospitalus look like she has a Pip Boy? Did she travel to Vault 88 where they are readily handed out to any newcomer to the Vault?
@bigz4339
@bigz4339 4 жыл бұрын
It's like a narthecium.
@jadedkratos5528
@jadedkratos5528 4 жыл бұрын
@@bigz4339 Nah, the device on the left hand, its a Pip Boy. She's been to Vault 88, she's wearing the Vault 88 clothing under her armour.
@zenlarrushiro3607
@zenlarrushiro3607 4 жыл бұрын
*[The Neon Defenders Would like to talk]*
@lucamckenn5932
@lucamckenn5932 4 жыл бұрын
Having just learned that the Adeptus Sororitas is female only because of a loophole is both clever and genius. I never questioned why, I just presumed that it was GW just having another fantasy archetype adapted to sci-fi, well played you mad lads.
@fachrezaekakurnia9974
@fachrezaekakurnia9974 Жыл бұрын
Background music?
@ten_of_diamonds7575
@ten_of_diamonds7575 4 жыл бұрын
They found out about the Fallen, and Azrael had a psyker possess her to have her ask for her order to be destroyed
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