Drifting, the real point.....is more about precision control of driving outside of the traction circle....using multiple techniques of manipulation to maneuver while using countersteer......it's not about holding/using maximum (let alone modified) steering angle. Ugh, America did a great job of f*cking up (aka "Americanizing") something requiring time/understanding to achieve precision. Drifting was way more fun, and the community was much tighter when it was about precision....not just "showoff style".

@@mfohawk6779 you must be fun at parties

Will aka "DK"

@@mfohawk6779 shut up

@@abellsatime378 he doesnt get invited

Definitely. Wasn't as smooth as Scott but he ain't a racing driver.

100% agree - bloody good throttle control too from what I could see.

"in control"😂 Édit: obviously, I vote for will!

@@nicolasherve6738 Sarcasm 😆

@@pizzmo8256 I don't know, Scott one looks in control, also he seems to get more angle....

Callum just tweeted that he got pole and won his first race too.

@@MaxPower417 He is going to insufferable.

Suggestion for fast road style driving set up on an M140i?

@Adam-M1 honestly, I've had a lot of good feedback on BCs. As a circa 1k option, they're quite versatile and pretty capable.

Fck it im asking it as well 😅 whats your best suggestion for a fiesta st?

@@MartijndeRondeDesigner which one?

@@MattBeardless mk7

Somehow i highly doubt they did alignment between those changes. Therefore this driving experience is highly skewed.

​@@hagestad Why would you doubt that? The car would be borderline undrivable without some sort of an alignment

@@hagestad nono I mean a whole new video comparing the same car on bags and on coilovers, to see if bags are really that slow compared to coilovers

@@nebsampson8991 The changes would not be drastically different between changing dampers but would definitely affect steering. So initial alignment would be slightly off between damper sets

@@hagestad This is also a very good point to be honest, I'll ask Callum...

England in a nutshell really.

They ARE British after all

i`m saving this video for later reference. I was already looking for the meister r coilovers, but now I`m pretty sure they are the ones.

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Hi-what?! 😯😂😀🤘

Wouldn't say they've got a low subscriber count. But they're defiantly deserving of more.

the better dampers will still be better, tein is still a good set though, just more a sporty road car coilover vs road track vs race to win

@@tturi2 In a sentence, you've basically nailed it - these particular TEINs are somewhat out of their comfort zone on track but would be excellent on a slightly uneven B road for the most part; especially if it was the driver's first RWD car. You essentially want to have that car as soft as possible before it gets overly wallowy. For what it's worth too, the TEINs in question here do also have adjustable damping (Street Advance Zs generally do, Street Basis Z don't) - that, in turn, can also help iron out some of the roll, squat and dive.

The more expensive coilovers come pre-adjusted because they were actually engineered specifically for the platform. Also, adjusting preload isn't a thing on linear rate springs. This is only marketed as a "feature" on cheap quality two piece coilovers like the Tein and Meister R. You won't find preload adjustable on actual engineered race shocks because A. they are using linear rate springs so it doesn't matter if you have .5" of preload or 2" of preload as the effective rate is the same and B. they are one piece shocks

I can tell from experience, putting Xida's on an mx5 without any adjustment makes it look like a whale sits in it.

@@BlakeEM That is not what that is on the one piece shocks lol. Let's break it down, the cheap two piece coilovers have separate preload and height adjustment. The former is done by the higher adjuster and locking ring while the height adjustment is done with the lower locking ring. The height on one piece shocks are done ONLY with adjusting the spring perch. Let me be clear - there is no separate preload adjustment on one piece shocks. This is by design as preload is not a thing on linear rate springs. For example: Let's say the spring rate on spring X is 500 lbs/in with no preload. Want to guess what the spring rate on spring X is with 5" of preload? It's a trick question, since it's the same except now you've reduced total spring travel before binding. They aren't on race shocks for a reason.

@@DrOllie-ve2dv haha. Yep, Xidas don't come pre-adjusted to anything!

That's just it - the cheaper options recommend a specific preload spec so you can't adjust that, and they don't have separate adjustments for compression and rebound (though these Xidas are also single adjustable). The knobs on the cheap shocks don't have as much effect as the knobs on the more expensive ones, ultimately.

Fr their content is so out of touch

I prefer Overdrive over Donut by far.

I feel they are both good for different reasons, donut being a over the top, bit more of a "story" and probably less factual, but still entertainment. Where as this is alot more simple, a bit goofy and whacky, but also informative and feels like just 3 mates making youtube videos. Donut feels more like TV. Both entertainment, just different 🤷🏼‍♂️

facts and collector car feed👀👀

Hi low specifically but yeah, more of the good stuff is more good stuff imo

@@geoffwatches different budgets is a hi-lo thing, but back to back testing on a miata is a money pit thing

Surprised/disappointed - interchangeable words in the circumstances!

We would love to see that too. Customers with Xidas report that even with higher spring rates than cheaper options, they still ride better on the road by virtue of superior valving and damper stroke.

No, because they literally said the most expensive one took the curbs better despite the higher spring rate, the damping wall still better. And they do offer them with softer springs as well (although I think they removed the very soft options from non-custom orders on NA - NB Xidas because they have now developped the Tecna for street applications). Personnally I'd love to see a comparison between Xida - Tecna - Fox - Öhlins and anything else that would be in a 1500-2500 price range within a close range of spring rates.

Would be great to know what happened to the M3. Maybe its condition was just too bad to do anything with it (except selling it for parts, as was suggested more than once in the comments on that video)

@@merobo5066 yeah I know, but I still would love to know the entire story. Did they ever mentioned something about this?

@@tomm1413 Not to my knowledge, I too would like to know what happened with that. If they addressed it in a community post I might have missed it though (depending on what happened to the M3 that might be a more suitable format than a video)

I can’t stop seeing it and it’s annoying 😂

The best mod is sticky tyres. The real test is to get a lap time using each type of damper and see if it improves your time.

I've had a set of tein flex z on one of my cars for the last 2 years. They've done wonderfully. I couldn't have asked for more for the price, and they still feel like new 20k miles later.

@@NG-VQ37VHR I've driven an frs with flex z and loved them. I've heard they feel different on the Miata but the price alone keeps me interested

​@@unstablegamingbeta4660 obviously if you have the money to spend, I'd go with a better set. But, if you just don't want to spend the money, they are perfectly usable, and should do everything you want, short of hard track use. I don't have experience with them on the miata though, so keep that in mind. My set was on a '13 infiniti g37.

@@NG-VQ37VHR honestly I'm thinking about going with them over the meister r because of the price. They might see a track 3-6 times a year at most. I just want to lower it some and adjust the damper rates for the street. Lots of good and bad roads where I'm at

I ran meister R CRD+ on my MR2 roadster (2zz). They were firm but acceptable on road, but excelled on track days and the nurburgring. Really depends on your priority for the car.

Against this belief, better dampers will help you at all driving levels. When it comes to suspension the take away should be that you buy once instead of buying several bad options before arriving at the good option.

It's not like Donut invented the comparison video. Besides, original ideas are not a common sight these days.

I agree, the concept obviously is similar which is fine because nobody has the rights to the idea but its everything else too, the narrating, camera work, editing style, commentating, even the damn text style is so similar. The whole intro sequence is like a mirror to one of their hi-lo videos. It's fine doing a similar concept of a video, but when everything else is nearly identical and copied that's where it starts to stray into questionable territory.

@@DKinger - yeah, that was largely the point I was making as well. BUT - Scott and the boys are doing it much much much better than Donut guys have. I recently unsubscribed from Donut as the quality of their videos and content has plummeted recently.

​@@F1FanCanuck Meh I completely disagree. That's anecdotal because they only continue to grow and they also just created a second channel that is looking to outpace this one as well so that's just false.

@@DKinger - sorry, but a personal opinion cannot be false. You may disagree with me, but you can’t say my subjective assessment that this channel is better is false. As for Donut, subs and likes don’t mean the quality has improved. It only means the content is appealing to a larger audience. Quality and popularity are two fundamentally different qualities/criteria by which any content or media may be measured. One does not imply the other, and indeed, the inverse is more often true.

She lives again!

All the shocks were set to baseline settings, not necessarily out of the box. It's not just a settings difference, I can promise you that.

acutally the middle option(MeisterR Clubsport) have more adjustbility than the expensive option(Supermiatas Xidas), due to the MeisterR being dual perch.

@@KavinFan0803 The ClubRace being a two piece shock, have about 50mm less travel than Xidas, so yes, you are forced to decide whether you have no droop travel or no bump travel with that "adjustment". With the one piece, full travel Xida, no such compromise is required, while they have more bump and droop than the ClubRace at either end. Having easily adjustable door hinges on your car isn't necessarily a good thing :)