I feel guilty for everytime I bought the most expensive and customizable suspensions in Gran Turismo, only to never bother of set up them.

I'm really excited for this series. It's cool to see how you can take an old car and upgrade it to make it faster and what makes the biggest differences

Remove the interior, seats and all those dead weight. Then do the suspension tuning and tyre change.

Big old Top Gear vibes and I'm loving it! Keep this content coming please

I also loved this, think that you should get 3 cars for £1000 and have £1000 to tune them concluding with a race to see who came up with the best car/tuning combination even give extra points for every pound under the £2000 they spend.

This video actually tells me a lot about how to tune a car in a racing game, what to expect from tuning each option, stiffness, ride height and something about weight distribution, it's something I am struggling with all the time, this series has been very useful for gamers like me to understand how to build a car efficiently.

Tires will make a much bigger time difference than suspension.. but suspension is what gives you confidence and predictability to USE those tires

Notice how it's still got a heap of body roll? You've sent the roll centre through the floor by lowering it too far, it will be a lot quicker if you lift it at least an inch or go for a roll centre kit - you'll notice it drastically reduces the weight transfer, and makes the car feel a lot sharper and more responsive.

Well, as next episode is propably already recorded my comment will be useless, but I'll write it anyway: Subarus are very front heavy but they have low center of mass. Stiffening rear sway bar is the first thing to do when you want to improve handling of them. And about next thing on the list, tires: There is no going around it, if you're going for lap times, aim for best tires you can get. With other things you can get to the point of deminishing returns, with tires better model will always give you time advantage.

0:41 “oh some stickers” “wow a piece of cardboard” there are two crows inside all of us, they’re both exactly the same

I genuinely cannot get over how relaxed you guys seem to be while working on a car. In America we curse and throw things.

biggest gains that can ever be done to get a car to go faster are good sets of Tires (depending on what size of rims are stock) after that weightreduction. but that Scoobie just a set of tires would do the biggest difference

This content is so, so good. I know these kind of series take a lot of work and money, and we really appreciate it. I can't wait to see this one continue and see what else you have in store!

I love these stock vs expensive "aftermarket" part kind of videos! Really tells you a difference!

I wonder… how will the final form of this Subi size up with the Low Car from Donut Media? That’s gonna be an epic crossover 🫣

Stiffer anti-rollbars and some yokohama advan with stiffer walls would help a lot in the corners. Take the spare seats out they weigh a tonne.

I'm loving this series! Great job guys!!!

So looking forward to future episodes! I had the exact same car that at tuned for light track work and mountain roads. In terms of suspension need to replace the front control arms with STI alloy control arms. The OE metal ones are trash and narrow. GC8 STI arms are direct swap and GD with give you 10mm extra front track width. Also associated swaybar upgrades help, not too stiff. Rear you need to dissemble the training arms and lateral links. OE set will be frozen in place and don't articulate properly due to age. STI at the time made pink trailing arms and lateral links with piloball bushing. Huge difference in rear stability. Also bushing STI has a Group N catalogue; rear diff assembly mount, gear box mount and engine pitch stop helped a lot in terms of drivetrain slop and helps get power down better. STI also made a underbody brace (just a pink bar) and strut brace that helped with steering feel. The above shopping list is relatively cheap but made a huge difference in handling. Man I miss that nugget

Love this series, can't wait to see the result!

I'm loving every installment so far! Excited to see the finale

love this series keep up the good work boys! also would love to see a deep dive into how to setup a track car! I could listen to scott talk about setup all day lol

You've went very low with the rideheight, and the angle af the front control arms has switched to the other side of the horizontal. You will absolutely need a roll center correction kit. You can have that either from Whiteline, or Superpro. Then, the wagon has narrower control arms, and that works in your favor. Buy a set of STI control arms, aluminium ones, they are 10mm wider, and that will increase the front camber. Be careful, there are 2 versions for those, 3.5deg caster and 5deg caster. The later one, called "spec B" control arm, can be found on the hawkeye STI, this would be the best option. Nevertheless, there are alternate ways to increase the caster. ALK is one of those, but it sucks imho, since it puts static load on the bushings. There is also a free caster mod to be done on the STI control arms, by flipping the rear pin. It does the same thing as an ALK. If you switch to STI control arms, you will need a new antiroll bar. Careful with that, they differ between the normal STI arms and the spec B ones. You can also go with STI control arms on the rear, but you will go into fender clearance issues, since the wagon has no flaring helping with wheel offset. For wheels, your best option would be the STI 5x100 wheels, 17x7.5, ET53. Or, if you keep the rear control arms, there is more flexibility to be had. DO NOT go under ET48, or you'll need to cut the lip on the rear fenders. Long story short - a 17x8, et48, on 235/40 might do the trick for 300HP and also fit the rear arches, on the stock rear arms. Bracing the chassis should also be done, especially after going on the coilover route, it flexes quite a lot. MANDATORY addition - rear frame lockout bolts. Poly bushings all-around the suspension can also be of great help. There is also some transition torque lost in the soft drivetrain suspension - engine and transmission mounts, rear differential bushings. And the WRX 4-pots are quite weak. Buy a set of an STI brembos, or better yet, some BBK. Wilwood has some cheap options. Or see with AP racing, they're on the same island as you are. If the car is driven by an experienced racing driver, the current steering rack should be fine, it's a 17:1 ratio. Otherwise, good news, your car is RHD, and the JDM STI rack is readily available for a simple swap, with a much-much better ratio of 13:1. That car has the potential of being turned into a weapon, track-wise, with the right parts and setup. Edit: do NOT go over -2deg of static camber on the front, the steering rack on this car is in front of the axle, giving very weird toe on lock. On the other hand, for the caster, as much as you can.

i went through all of this 6 months ago building a 2006 Impreza Sport Wagon into an Autocross and Rallycross racer! So fun watching you guys !

Love this series! Can’t wait to see where you go with it. Brilliant. 😊

I'm amazed that a difference between proper set of stiff, adjustable coilovers and a stock suspension with at least one busted shock is that little!

love it! great content guys keep it up. subscribed!!!

Cool to see. Looking forward to the next one.

This is the first series I’ve ever seen that makes the engineering and tuning side of cars/racing actually entertaining. 20 or so seasons of top gear, and they never even attempted to do this, let alone succeed as you have.

I subscribed because of this series. I they do much more like this. It's rare on KZfaq to find a real in-depth modification by comparison series like this on KZfaq.

I am definitely subscribing! Can't wait to see this series of episodes unfold.

I'm really loving this series so far :D

Please keep it up !im learning a lot about cars!

I subscribed and can't wait to miss the next episode!

Very good series. As a wrencher myself I appreciate when the actual work is documented and not just skipped over.

Looking forward to watching this whole series 😄

I've been waiting for years for new episodes of genuine old Top Gear! I love it! Keep it up 😁😁

Definetely the best car series on youtube!!!

Fantastic series!

based on some of the data given in the last episode I've done some calculations on power to weight ratios of both cars. The power to weight ratio of the Murcielago is almost exactly 350 bhp/tonne. If the Subaru's weight stays the same (which it presumably won't) it'll need to make just over 500bhp to match the Murcielagos power to weight, similarly if the power of the Subaru stays the same (again presumably not) the weight of the car will have to drop to around 650kg! If the lads can get the weight of the Subaru down to a somewhat reasonable 1250kg then to match the Murcielago it'd need around 440bhp. I know that power to weight ratios aren't everything in this situation, this was just a bit of fun.

I love these comparison videos

Just discover this test. Absolutely loved it, and useful consumer advice.

This is great fun. Well done guys.

I love this series!!!

I love this series, I'll make sure to miss the next episode as soon as it comes out!

I love little fiddly bits about what makes a car go faster or better, etc. This series hits the sweet spot. I'd love to see you guys vs someone like Donut doing this on a budget. USA vs UK...

Loving this, great to see what the Wagon can do!

Was never a huge fan of this channel, but damn this is the most fascinating series I've ever come across.

Keep it up guys this is looking great. Indeed suspension is a big improvement for grip and lap times. Get better tyres, sportier brakes and finally add some extra ponies into the engine with whatever money is left

My first time on the channel and I am blown away that you haven't changed the tyres yet. First and foremost are tyre upgrades.

Love this series!

This is a great series

Doing suspension on my 02 obs at the moment. Series is spot on

Cool series. Shame that testing it with new stock suspension wasn’t done though. Would’ve been interesting to see.

What do you think we should upgrade next?! Suggest down below! If you haven't seen Episode 1 👉 kzfaq.info/get/bejne/j5Nipcx91auYoX0.html If you haven't seen Episode 2 👉 kzfaq.info/get/bejne/ob-XZLOiyrHGoqc.html

Love where this series is going. Some sticky tires, drop the weight and add power. Should do it

Will: “I want to be as hard as possible” “I don’t want to be able to put a finger in” “I’m the chief squirter”

Love seeing this type of challenge

Take a good concept and make your own spin on it, i like it!

Happy you picked the BC’s these are 🔥

I got an 05 wrx, and it currently only has wheels/tire, exhaust, intake, Stage 2 clutch upgraded, and early tune. Got Brembo's for it, Turbo Inlet, and an Sti Scoop. Been Looking at suspension upgrades, so this was helpful.

Some good semislicks should make a huge difference to your lap time. Looking forward to it

Enjoyed this! One thing I would say though is it would be worth calculating roll centres properly rather than dumping the ride height by a random amount. Most people think purely in terms of lower COG but you actually get more body roll going excessively low due to control arm angles increasing roll centre vs COG difference. Increased body roll due to being too low will reduce the load the inside tyre is dealing with lowering overall grip. It's highly likely the optimum is not much more than 30mm from stock ride height without roll centre correction of some kind.

You need an alignment, your tyres have positive camber during corning on inner corner. Would also recommend remove front sway bar, couldn't hear it but looked like it had a bit of understeer promoted by front sway bar.

right before he took off i said to myself i'd be surprised if it gained more than a second on that track. makes no sense to expect a 2 second gain on just swapping out suspension. with the suspension upgrade the car still needs better tires, more power, weight reduction. anything else is just pissing money away. also should have done the weight reduction before setting up the suspension because now you'll just have to set the suspension up all over again after you do the weight reduction.

Before you do the corner weight and alignment you'll want to take the weight out of the car first. I'd also do the tyres at the same time. That will see your biggest gains in lap time I reckon. For tyres I'd personally recommend Yoko A052s.

guys please make this weekly relly looking forward to the next one

This is absolutely the best thing going on car youtube at the moment.

Don't make the same mistake top gear did and only focus on handling and then throw like 40 extra hp at it. Gut it, get some good tires on it, some really good brake pads (because it isn't a marathon, it's a sprint) and put some power into it. It's 400hp down on the Lamborghini. 400! It's going to need a good 100+ HP and some more handling mods. Anti roll bars, tires, brake pads, brake fluid, and some good ole fucking power. Don't get wrapped up in spending the rest of that 10k on suspension. Some of that has absolutely got to go to the engine.

Loving this series, picked it up at ep5 and then 1, 2, 3 not named by series (cheers). I jest, but is it just time on the small track car throttle use that the comparison is on, maybe because instated at 5 on a track

I enjoyed watching this.

I improve my car by stiffen the chassis aside from the use of adjustable coilover, with strut bars such as the one I installed are produced by the local company called ‘UltraRacing’. They produce specific multiple bars for different car models.

I like this series, more please.

Wheels tires suspension are the best options for increasing grip and lower lap times

Pls do bracing and sway bars next. Simple bracing like bolt on strut tower bars and an X brace underneath, and super cheap sway bars. They will probably give you the most bang for your buck handling improvements after doing struts, and can be had for very cheap!

I love this series

How the hell have I just found this channel? It's like a mashup of donut media and carthrottle. Brilliant stuff, this series will be awesome. New subscriber here 😁

Can you add this to a playlist or tag it as part of a series? Incredible content, can't believe you're "only" at 235k subs, about to blow and I'm here for it!!!

I like when Scott helps, it should be about getting the Subie as fast as possible on the budget!

All this wagon needs is a larger stock location turbo, larger tmic, and a tune and I guarantee you this boxer motor gives that Lambo a run for it's money

im really looking forward to miss the next one

Oooh come on! When’s the next episode coming out!

This series is great. I own an 05 Saab 92x aero (wrx wagon) that I currently daily, but also plan to make a track car. I also have a blown-out front driveshaft boot that sprayed grease everywhere, a small crack in my windscreen & a nearly dead clutch (after 175k miles). And I also had planned go get those BC coilovers for it lol.. TWINSS!!!😁

Aggressive alignment, rear anti roll bar r spec tyres and take out some weight.

This series is great

This is so nice lol. Love the vids

It would have been sweet to have had a time before the clutch was replaced.

Very awesome series!! I HIGHLY recommend getting some Kosei k1 wheels if you’re going to go with a 17” they are incredibly cheap and incredibly lightweight and designed for the track. That lower unsprung mass will help a bunch

after finishing upgrading this car interesting to see comparison to cheapest upgrade options

Good job!! Sway bars 24mm with aluminium endlinks are best bang for buck to take away body roll. Then... Drop a downpipe + prodrive cat converter, uppipe if possible too, 225l pump, vf34 turbo, 550cc injectors, tune her to 1.15/.2 bar easily pushing 300/310hp New brake pads/service I wouldn't imagine would be as fast as a lambo though!

Loving it, my fear is Scott sticks it in a hedge when it gets closer to the time 😂

get 24 mm whiteline rear anti roll bar with heavy duty mounts and drop links and subframe lock in bolts, whitelinte front drop links, maybe 22mm front anti roll bar but not really needed and bump steer and roll centre kit and poly bush steering rack bushes help alot on an impreza as i fitted these to my impreza and makes hell of a difference and my alignment i run 1.4mm negative camber front 0 toe and 0.8mm-1.2 mm negative camber rear with 1mm toe out good fast road/track alignment for Subarus and front and rear sturt braces for 500-600 quid big difference and your steering and suspension will be sorted hope this helps 👍

I have a set of those BC gold BR series struts in my Lexus, hands down the best money i ever spent on making a car handle like you can corner on rails but without the clickety clack part.

Really enjoyed this vid, but did you guys dial in ride height? From the outside it still looked like the front was riding higher than the rear which would introduce a lot of understeer, which you guys were then trying to tune out with damping.

Perrin or Cobb sway bars, strut tower brace, frt and rr, Enkei RPF1 wheels with Falken Azenis RT615k tires should just about wrap up your suspension needs.

this channel has been good

Subscribed to miss the next one

This series is soo good its like beta hilow donut media series and i love it♥️

Tires, Alignment, Swaybar and camber links then power

You guys should get some swaybars and weightreduction next

Hi, I hope you get suspension setup right this time. Joshua's mustang shocks were too stiff to say the least.